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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: Sir Lawrence on May 12, 2015, 11:58:27 AM
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Re-seating date and time is Thursday, June 4 3:48 p.m. CT for Sir Lawrence.
Hope the on court product improves more than my seats.
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I'm June 6 at 3:54.
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June 3, 4:08
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June 6 3:59 p.m. CT
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Re-seating date and time is Thursday, June 4 3:48 p.m. CT for Sir Lawrence.
Hope the on court product improves more than my seats.
Amen, especially as my seats have gotten worse each of the past 3 years :-\
June 6 at 4:41.
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Buying from you guys, 2 to 5 days before game day, probably 5 or 6 games, great seats in the lower bowl each time. Coming from Chicago, it has been too hard for me to know well in advance which games I can go to, and I know I can't go to them all. The small premium on the secondary market for 5 or 6 games is less than I would pay for tickets I would likely eat if I had a whole season package (the 5 game packages have worked for me a couple of times, but usually I would wind up missing 2 or 3). So, here's to better seats for all, and a robust secondary market.
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Buying from you guys, 2 to 5 days before game day, probably 5 or 6 games, great seats in the lower bowl each time. Coming from Chicago, it has been too hard for me to know well in advance which games I can go to, and I know I can't go to them all. The small premium on the secondary market for 5 or 6 games is less than I would pay for tickets I would likely eat if I had a whole season package (the 5 game packages have worked for me a couple of times, but usually I would wind up missing 2 or 3). So, here's to better seats for all, and a robust secondary market.
I would not count on that happening this year. Call it the Ellenson effect.
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I'm planning to move downstairs for the first time this year. Looking at a few sections. Any advice from more experienced heads as far as the $120 donations go? I'm looking at 203, 211, 217, 218, and 219. Heard a lot of good things about the Fighting 218th, and I like the idea of being close to the students (441 is a great section upstairs), but if anyone has thoughts, I'd love them.
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June 5, 7:37.
BTW, if you posted in this thread last year ...
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=41942.0
Looks like I was 7:41pm last year, so I moved up 4 minutes!
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I'm planning to move downstairs for the first time this year. Looking at a few sections. Any advice from more experienced heads as far as the $120 donations go? I'm looking at 203, 211, 217, 218, and 219. Heard a lot of good things about the Fighting 218th, and I like the idea of being close to the students (441 is a great section upstairs), but if anyone has thoughts, I'd love them.
I like the SW corner (208-211) for proximity to the specialty beer stand and Baseline Bar.
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Brew Sect 203 seat donation is more than $120... I think like $300.... :-[
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Brew Sect 203 seat donation is more than $120... I think like $300.... :-[
Not according to the map they sent out today. 203 is $120/seat, but next to it in 202 you pay $360/seat.
http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/marq/sports/m-baskbl/auto_pdf/2013-14/misc_non_event/MBBPrices1314.pdf
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I've been in 218 row Z for many years. Love my seats and wouldn't consider another section. However, that said, this is the year I am finally giving up my season tickets. This past year, I went to one game.....ONE GAME! Way too many conflicts with kids' activities. Ate a few games worth of tickets, sold a few other games, gave a few away.
I, too, will be looking for tickets on the secondary market, or will consider the 5 game plans.
Regardless, Brew, 218 is awesome....near the student section, great angle/view of the court. You will love the section!!!!
FWIW, my reseating time is June 6th 12:49
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Brew--I have sat in every section in the lower bowl and a lot in the upper as well. If you sit in lower corners, don't go too low. Sometimes Row A-C (for example) are open. I would advise against that. If in the corners--go higher rather than lower.
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Brew .. I've lived in 203/204 and 210/211.
203 its mirror 211 (and 217) .. have the benefit of being closer to center .. but the seats are NOT at a diagonal, not pointing toward center, which means your head (or body) is shifted to center for the entire game. That's not awful, but just to be noted.
I've been hovering around row G, but to be noted the angle tends to get blocked by the net, and, for example, you may not see the feet of guys shooting 3s on the far side. I'd say all rows G-S are just fine, give you a good view. Beyond S and you are a little high up.
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Then they changed the $$$ for 203.. I agree with Hilltopper... 203 and 211 you have to crank your head watching the action.. We like the angled sections..
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I would not count on that happening this year. Call it the Ellenson effect.
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you can get good seats to every MU game no matter how good they are--and here's to hoping that the price is a bit higher due to te Ellenson effect!
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June 5, 6:24.
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SOS, as a recent grad need help with the process.
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SOS, as a recent grad need help with the process.
1) Put down your $100 deposit and get assigned a time. Then put down your preferences. This includes how you will pick (I recommend online at your assigned time), which sections you prefer, if you want aisle seats or not, etc.
2) If you pick a section that does not require a donation, you are able to pick your exact seats. This includes upper deck sections in the corners and end zones. I had seats in 441 for a few years and really enjoyed them. It was right next to both the students and a beer stand, while also giving a good view of the game. Just log in at your time and click the vacant dots you want and they are yours.
3) If you pick a section that requires a donation (center upper and everything downstairs) you cannot pick your exact seat, but your preferences will come into play. When your time comes, you will see what sections and rows have seats available. Instead of exact seats, it will say something like 6/14 seats remaining. Remember the aisles tend to go first, so if you want aisle seats, try to pick a row that has 12-14 seats remaining, at least 10 for any guaranteed shot at an aisle. The staff will try to meet your desires as best as possible. That's why the survey helps. Tax laws prevent you from picking the exact seat because of the donation, but you can whittle it down pretty narrowly. If there's 14/14 available and you say "I want X row in Y section, preferably with my 4 seats closest to the aisle nearest center court" you can be pretty well assured you will get that exact location.
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SOS, as a recent grad need help with the process.
I believe new season ticket holders will select after the renewals are done. I know that's been the case in the past.
System couldn't be easier to get through, if you run into any issues the ticket office is very helpful.
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When you're picking online it goes fast, so get some choices and options lined up ahead of time. Log on early before your time to familiarize yourself with everything. You can even see seats disappear when other people pick their seats while you watch.
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Friday, June 5 4:00 p.m
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I personally like going down to the AL. You get the most updated PICKS and easier to talk to the staff when you're there to relay your choices.. ;-) .. I just kinda worry about picking using the internet, if it "freezes", then it might be left up to them to pick. I wouldn't be happy then.. :-((
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When you're picking online it goes fast, so get some choices and options lined up ahead of time. Log on early before your time to familiarize yourself with everything. You can even see seats disappear when other people pick their seats while you watch.
Very true. I would recommend logging in a few hours before to get an idea of what is left, then if possible watch at least the 30 minutes before your pick. Makes it a lot easier to know exactly what you want once your time comes. As I was always able to pick exact seats before, I usually had my choices narrowed to 2-3 different seat selections in the final 10 minutes and always got one of those top options.
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Been in 219 since 1997. I will never move. We share an aisle with the student section and the energy is great. I am in row P and I would not want to go much lower.
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Re-seating date and time is Thursday, June 4 3:48 p.m. CT for Sir Lawrence.
Hope the on court product improves more than my seats.
I'm on Thursday, June 4 at 3:49 p.m. CT. Sir Lawrence, you better not be asleep at the controls or I'll zip right past you!!!
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A couple things...never thought of many of the benefits listed. People wanting higher seats never occurred to me, but now that it's been mentioned, it makes sense. In the uppers, it's all about getting as close as possible. Also never gave much thought to the angled seats. Probably because I've never been in angled seats, so I don't know the difference. And of course the benefits of being close to the students vs being close to the best beer stands.
Thanks for all the comments, giving me a lot of food for thought. For those in 218/219, does the backboard/hoop ever obscure the action?
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I'm on Thursday, June 4 at 3:49 p.m. CT. Sir Lawrence, you better not be asleep at the controls or I'll zip right past you!!!
Just curious, what is your point total? I'm at 249.
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248.
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$100 per minute. $6,000 to gain an hour? There must be some other matrix.
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A couple things...never thought of many of the benefits listed. People wanting higher seats never occurred to me, but now that it's been mentioned, it makes sense. In the uppers, it's all about getting as close as possible. Also never gave much thought to the angled seats. Probably because I've never been in angled seats, so I don't know the difference. And of course the benefits of being close to the students vs being close to the best beer stands.
Thanks for all the comments, giving me a lot of food for thought. For those in 218/219, does the backboard/hoop ever obscure the action?
Sat in 218 A for a season, and the stem of the basket obstructs play on the right side. Not a huge deal, but annoying.
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Thanks for all the comments, giving me a lot of food for thought. For those in 218/219, does the backboard/hoop ever obscure the action?
Since 218 = 210 = 204 and 219 = 209 = 205 .. the answer is yes. We R was in Row A .. his sight lines were effectively under the backboard. Different story above like .. Row D.
.. Basically for all those sections, there is a triangle of the court that is obscured by the hoop. Even if you're in Row Z, there'd be a small section.
Not a big deal, though.
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It looks like they changed up some donation levels. It will be interesting to track migration of higher point holders again. With yearly reseating now, I think folks are migrating to lower or no donation levels (more on fixed income, low or no resale value, game product quality) waiting on a program turnaround. Season tickets down 1500 last year.
I think the yearly reup hurts MU badly. First, it requires the ticket holder to be much more involved rather than just hitting a renew button with little thought on the two year. Now they question the schedule, game programming and the fielded product a lot more in a selection choice annually before they go through the involved seat selection process. Next, it puts immediate pressure on the coach to turn it around. Then the new conference. Then the game day experience. Then the donations. Is there a better fan experience watching elsewhere. Fans are trending down on their sentiment and game day experience where MU could just assume loyalty in the old conference before.
I also like to be further up for better sight lines and to view the Jumbotron. I see the big money seats getting stiff necks looking up and away from the action. Of course it would be better if they actually showed replays that matter.
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Spot on, Doc.
MU excels at expecting blind loyalty from it's supporters. They've done next to nothing to make up for the loss of the marquee games the old league offered. The whole experience is stale and dated.
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I think a lot what you said is correct. You are only stuck with your seats for a year, if you do not like them. I have no trouble looking at the jumboton, but I do have a hard time looking up for the parachutes, which come very close to me, but never land in my hands. I am going to move back a few rows this year, so I can sit in the permanent seats. My seats were really good last year, except for the fact large people kept sitting next to me and encroached on my chair. The permanent seats at least have arm rests to protect your seating space.
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You the backboard blocks my view, that bothers my wife a lot more than it bothers me. If the backboard was opaque (how about that word from a COMM major!) it would be a different story.
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Good points Blackheart. Especially this major one - refusal of Big East to allow replays in key/controversial situations. This seemed to come into play A LOT last year. So frustrating. If refs are too thin skinned, find a new profession. At 8pm on a Tuesday in January vs Seton Hall, I'd rather be sitting in my living room with a fire roaring and a broadcast that shows replays.
It looks like they changed up some donation levels. It will be interesting to track migration of higher point holders again. With yearly reseating now, I think folks are migrating to lower or no donation levels (more on fixed income, low or no resale value, game product quality) waiting on a program turnaround. Season tickets down 1500 last year.
I think the yearly reup hurts MU badly. First, it requires the ticket holder to be much more involved rather than just hitting a renew button with little thought on the two year. Now they question the schedule, game programming and the fielded product a lot more in a selection choice annually before they go through the involved seat selection process. Next, it puts immediate pressure on the coach to turn it around. Then the new conference. Then the game day experience. Then the donations. Is there a better fan experience watching elsewhere. Fans are trending down on their sentiment and game day experience where MU could just assume loyalty in the old conference before.
I also like to be further up for better sight lines and to view the Jumbotron. I see the big money seats getting stiff necks looking up and away from the action. Of course it would be better if they actually showed replays that matter.
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Good points Blackheart. Especially this major one - refusal of Big East to allow replays in key/controversial situations. This seemed to come into play A LOT last year. So frustrating. If refs are too thin skinned, find a new profession. At 8pm on a Tuesday in January vs Seton Hall, I'd rather be sitting in my living room with a fire roaring and a broadcast that shows replays.
+1000
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Half right. I'm always in the arena, but there needs to be replay.
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Moved down two rows. No complaints with the process.
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Moved down two rows. No complaints with the process.
Good things happen when you respect the process.
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So how are y'all doing so far? Chick and I slid down the pecking order some this year.
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So how are y'all doing so far? Chick and I slid down the pecking order some this year.
Just chilling until Saturday afternoon.
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Hmmm .. the cust# and password I used last year .. doesn't work. Maybe they email a new one on the day of your time? (Mine is tomorrow night..)
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They should have already have emailed it to you. I got mine a week ago or so.
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I moved up 7 rows on purpose. From 227 row F to 200 row M. From folding chairs to permanent seats in a center section. What I found interesting was that my last years seats were blocked out. I assume it has something to do with the new student seating.
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They should have already have emailed it to you. I got mine a week ago or so.
Thanks .. found it!
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The feedback on the moving of press row is going to be interesting. That is 68 prime lower bowl seats not now available. So donors may have moved up considerably with donations, and not have the choices they had previously. Long standing holders like Bilsu now having to move to other selections. It didn't just affect 68 people, the migration will affect a lot more of long-time season ticket holders and donors. Worse, MU pulled this after the April deadline for donations. That section is pretty prime.
I think time will show this concept of getting students closer to the floor was misplayed. Fact is, between breaks where students are back home, weekday games during class times, loss of revenue, this redesign is just going to leave more holes. The opposite side behind the basket are typically the last lower bowl seats to go. MU should have moved the band over there (at every game, break or no) to create a some sort of student bow tie and left the press where they were until the new arena was built. Honestly, the band interacts more with all the fans than just the students. MU is not Duke in that its brand is reliant on the urban fan (more like the professional team fans) to fill in the seats for 6-8 games when the students are not in session (see the failed Al experiment).
We'll see the reactions as time goes on here...could be overblown. My guess is this will alienate quite a few. MU donors don't like change.
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I think getting students closer to the floor should have happened long ago. If you want a really good game day atmosphere that is necessary. What places that have been known for great game day atmosphere had the students farther away then what MU had last year. 68 means I might have move back 1 row.
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The feedback on the moving of press row is going to be interesting. That is 68 prime lower bowl seats not now available. So donors may have moved up considerably with donations, and not have the choices they had previously. Long standing holders like Bilsu now having to move to other selections. It didn't just affect 68 people, the migration will affect a lot more of long-time season ticket holders and donors. Worse, MU pulled this after the April deadline for donations. That section is pretty prime.
I think time will show this concept of getting students closer to the floor was misplayed. Fact is, between breaks where students are back home, weekday games during class times, loss of revenue, this redesign is just going to leave more holes. The opposite side behind the basket are typically the last lower bowl seats to go. MU should have moved the band over there (at every game, break or no) to create a some sort of student bow tie and left the press where they were until the new arena was built. Honestly, the band interacts more with all the fans than just the students. MU is not Duke in that its brand is reliant on the urban fan (more like the professional team fans) to fill in the seats for 6-8 games when the students are not in session (see the failed Al experiment).
We'll see the reactions as time goes on here...could be overblown. My guess is this will alienate quite a few. MU donors don't like change.
Everything will change again in 2-3 years with the new arena. Should be a positive one for everyone.
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I think getting students closer to the floor should have happened long ago. If you want a really good game day atmosphere that is necessary. What places that have been known for great game day atmosphere had the students farther away then what MU had last year. 68 means I might have move back 1 row.
Is the issue getting the students closer? I don't think that is the case...but it is the press taking those prime seats. My point on the students was to bow time them behind the baskets, which are less prime but still right on top of the action on both ends/halves. I don't have a solution for the "press elite", however, until the new arena.
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The feedback on the moving of press row is going to be interesting. That is 68 prime lower bowl seats not now available. So donors may have moved up considerably with donations, and not have the choices they had previously. Long standing holders like Bilsu now having to move to other selections. It didn't just affect 68 people, the migration will affect a lot more of long-time season ticket holders and donors. Worse, MU pulled this after the April deadline for donations. That section is pretty prime.
I think time will show this concept of getting students closer to the floor was misplayed. Fact is, between breaks where students are back home, weekday games during class times, loss of revenue, this redesign is just going to leave more holes. The opposite side behind the basket are typically the last lower bowl seats to go. MU should have moved the band over there (at every game, break or no) to create a some sort of student bow tie and left the press where they were until the new arena was built. Honestly, the band interacts more with all the fans than just the students. MU is not Duke in that its brand is reliant on the urban fan (more like the professional team fans) to fill in the seats for 6-8 games when the students are not in session (see the failed Al experiment).
We'll see the reactions as time goes on here...could be overblown. My guess is this will alienate quite a few. MU donors don't like change.
The 68 seats that you are referring are those 216 W-Z?
I would not consider these prime lower bowl seats. By that I mean that I often sit in this section W-Z, buying single game seats for nearly every game. I would say 1/3 to 1/2 of the seats are not season ticket holder seats. They are open to the public or other season ticket holders for every game. So, not every seat was lost revenue from season ticket holders in this section and the number of previous section 216 w-z season ticket holders is lessened.
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The 68 seats that you are referring are those 216 W-Z?
I would not consider these prime lower bowl seats. By that I mean that I often sit in this section W-Z, buying single game seats for nearly every game. I would say 1/3 to 1/2 of the seats are not season ticket holder seats. They are open to the public or other season ticket holders for every game. So, not every seat was lost revenue from season ticket holders in this section and the number of previous section 216 w-z season ticket holders is lessened.
I said "pretty prime" meaning they sell out and get a pretty good seat donation. There may be an odd seat or two in there but they sell out, or you may get on resale. The last to go usually are behind the home basket (not the lower seats) and are typically the entry level spot from fans migrating down from the uppers. Those press row seats are about $63,240 in lost revenue and donations. Not a big deal in itself...and MU obviously thinks they can spread that out. It is more the irk factor I am speculating on.
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The feedback on the moving of press row is going to be interesting. That is 68 prime lower bowl seats not now available.
I've been seating in Sec 212 and 216 w-z for years. It has not been a ticket or two, it's been 15+ singles in these areas---I know cuz this is where I've sat and ask the ticket office or saw it on the my ticket site. By buying that seat for a single game there is no donation, so it can't be counted as lost revenue--only in the sense of lost walk up $, cuz it is not a season ticket holders seat. Maybe it changes this year, but it hasn't recently.
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I've been seating in Sec 212 and 216 w-z for years. It has not been a ticket or two, it's been 15+ singles in these areas---I know cuz this is where I've sat and ask the ticket office or saw it on the my ticket site. By buying that seat for a single game there is no donation, so it can't be counted as lost revenue--only in the sense of lost walk up $, cuz it is not a season ticket holders seat. Maybe it changes this year, but it hasn't recently.
Might the season package be bought by ticket brokers? I imagine they still have to pay the donation, but on high profile games can recoup that cost on the secondary market.
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Nope--MU ticket office not 2ndary market.
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Nope--MU ticket office not 2ndary market.
There are lot of odd numbers in a row at the BC, and folks buy in 2s or 4s so I can see that with the singles. That is a lot in a lower bowl section but that is also an oddly designed section. I know this is press row for the NCAAs as well so maybe not a biggie after all.
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June 5, 7:37.
BTW, if you posted in this thread last year ...
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=41942.0
Looks like I was 7:41pm last year, so I moved up 4 minutes!
I went from 4:25p to 1:50p on Saturday this year... woot. And I even dropped my B&G donation by a hundred bucks last year.
Has anyone else noticed much more availability upstairs this year compared to last year (at the same time during reseating)? 24 hours before my appt. last year, a lot of seats in my section were gone... this year, it's still wide open 24 hours prior.
Either everyone's moving downstairs or there's going to be a feeding frenzy in my sections over the next 23 hours 58 minutes.
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I went from 4:25p to 1:50p on Saturday this year... woot. And I even dropped my B&G donation by a hundred bucks last year.
Has anyone else noticed much more availability upstairs this year compared to last year (at the same time during reseating)? 24 hours before my appt. last year, a lot of seats in my section were gone... this year, it's still wide open 24 hours prior.
Either everyone's moving downstairs or there's going to be a feeding frenzy in my sections over the next 23 hours 58 minutes.
After reseating last year, MU opened up sections of the student section that didn't students didn't buy to packages. At the rail, season ticket packages that sold well. I suspect that supply will help the uppers.
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I moved up 7 rows on purpose. From 227 row F to 200 row M. From folding chairs to permanent seats in a center section. What I found interesting was that my last years seats were blocked out. I assume it has something to do with the new student seating.
Not sure. 227 has nothing to do with the new student section. That's 216 for the new press row.
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The feedback on the moving of press row is going to be interesting. That is 68 prime lower bowl seats not now available.
I think it's 89 seats. One person I know is not happy about it, but he complains about many things.
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I think it's 89 seats. One person I know is not happy about it, but he complains about many things.
I don't mind complaining. For the real press that is actually doing media coverage and reporting for media outlets that people actually pay attention to, give them decent seats. For the rest of them, put them in the upper deck, please! There will be a bunch of seats sitting empty unless it is a really big game, and then most of the press people are not "real" media types, but just get good seats to watch from.
Matt V should get a center court seat for himself as well, for as long as he keeps up the great coverage.
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I think it's 89 seats. One person I know is not happy about it, but he complains about many things.
Yeah, I think you are right on 89 blocked. I thought I heard the lower number (68) as being affected. So that was too low.
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With my reseating time being exactly the same as last year, I didn't move up in rank .. and there was WAY more supply this year. In past years, I was never able to sniff anything in the center sections .. this year there were 10+ row choices there, not to mention 25+ more row choices in the 3 corner sections I slum in.
No surprise .. demand is down.
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With my reseating time being exactly the same as last year, I didn't move up in rank .. and there was WAY more supply this year. In past years, I was never able to sniff anything in the center sections .. this year there were 10+ row choices there, not to mention 25+ more row choices in the 3 corner sections I slum in.
No surprise .. demand is down.
Be interesting to see if MU does a new season ticket discount when they make them available in July. It'll be interesting to see how much the season ticket base declines this year. Last year we lost 1500 combined between alumni and students.
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My seating time was better than last year, by 3 min .. Got our same seats again, 4 years running.. Got exactly what we wanted. Could have possibly moved down 1 row, but chose our row again.. We love our end of aisle .. I have place for my beer... ;-) priorities ya know... walk right in.... sit right down ..... Perfect.. Life is good.. ;D
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Just think if MU played in a facility like the Cintas Center at Xavier. 9-10,000 seats all with great sight lines. The Bradley Center really only has about 6000 good seats (between the baselines) and about 4000 decent seats. The rest are largely poor seats and go unused for about 75% of MU games. I sit behind the hoop in decent seats in terms of viewing. In a different facility they would be good seats.
The point is that if the new facility doesn't cater to hockey, the number of good seats for MU basketball will increase. Whether that translates to more ticket sales and revenue really depends on demand. Regardless, it will make the experience for us in "decent" seats much improved.
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Very happy with the options that remain as I'm about 7 hours away from being able to pick. Quite a few good looking rows available in the sections I'm targeting.
One more question...how is the difference between the permanent seats and the folding chairs? Looks like for the most part, the first 8 rows are folding and behind that is permanent seating. Could anyone give a rundown of how they compare in terms of comfort and accessibility?
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Also...does anyone know if the donations from buying seats are factored into your B&G donations for points? So if I buy 2 in 218 with donations of $240 combined, does that get me $10 away from another B&G point for future seating consideration?
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The point is that if the new facility doesn't cater to hockey, the number of good seats for MU basketball will increase. Whether that translates to more ticket sales and revenue really depends on demand.
Sales will only increase with better on-court performance. I doubt the universe of people who .. refuse to buy tickets today because they "can't get a decent seat" .. is small. If you're a fan, you're a fan.
Very happy with the options that remain as I'm about 7 hours away from being able to pick. Quite a few good looking rows available in the sections I'm targeting.
One more question...how is the difference between the permanent seats and the folding chairs? Looks like for the most part, the first 8 rows are folding and behind that is permanent seating. Could anyone give a rundown of how they compare in terms of comfort and accessibility?
Brew, I've been in that boat .. hours before your time, you see lots of good seats left. Unless you are talking about the upper deck .. those good lowers will disappear. Figure about 60-75 seats per hour are going to disappear, so about 500, and the lowers mostly go first.
As for folding vs. regular .. most people prefer the regular chairs. The folding ones don't have armrests, so there's more encroachment from the two fisted slopper next to you.
Also...does anyone know if the donations from buying seats are factored into your B&G donations for points? So if I buy 2 in 218 with donations of $240 combined, does that get me $10 away from another B&G point for future seating consideration?
Yes, the BGF seat donation factors in to your total. This is one reason the people with the center seats keep them .. they are forced to do $360 per year per seat, so for 2, $720 a year, compared to the $240 the rest of the lower bowl is paying. That's +5 points a year right there.
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Brew, I've been in that boat .. hours before your time, you see lots of good seats left. Unless you are talking about the upper deck .. those good lowers will disappear. Figure about 60-75 seats per hour are going to disappear, so about 500, and the lowers mostly go first.
Yeah, that happened to me in the uppers the past couple years. With the change in how seats were selected, more people moved to the wing sections I liked (441, 425, etc) and I watched my own seats disappear before I could pick them again. My hope right now is that there are 2 together, Row S or better in 217, 218, 210, 211, 203, or 204. If not, 219, 209, and 205 have a ton of availability, so that's my backup plan.
As for folding vs. regular .. most people prefer the regular chairs. The folding ones don't have armrests, so there's more encroachment from the two fisted slopper next to you.
Yes, the BGF seat donation factors in to your total. This is one reason the people with the center seats keep them .. they are forced to do $360 per year per seat, so for 2, $720 a year, compared to the $240 the rest of the lower bowl is paying. That's +5 points a year right there.
Thanks!
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Even with the press row, it looks like there is plenty of lower bowl inventory as Topper said. Good luck, Brew.
The corner slices filled (205, 209, 219) in faster last season earlier than in the past. I think there were three reasons for this: Lack of winning, lower donation in a crappy season, you couldn't see or pick the seats you wanted and people wanted to assure an aisle seat. They are not bad seats, but go higher as the view is better. It looks like people are leaving those sections this season as they were wide open. The leg room in the permanent seats is bad, but the padded seat partners can be intrusive, as Topper said. Neither are comfortable.
But, with the drop off in season ticket holders, and even more this round, the lowers may last longer. Even last season, there were swaths of empty seats in the lowers for a lot of games. I think a dried up secondary market also affects selection. I know a lot of people from Chicago who just buy the upper end zones now and just attend weekend games have moved up there as a result.
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Ahhh, just done. For reasons I won't go into our point total was down considerably this past year. But still around all our old friends. Come join chick and I in 400. Still good seats down low. Looking at you young pup 03eng.
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I pick in 20 minutes, not going to improve. May actually move into the corner to get an aisle.
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Ahhh, just done. For reasons I won't go into our point total was down considerably this past year. But still around all our old friends. Come join chick and I in 400. Still good seats down low. Looking at you young pup 03eng.
Ha ha....we switched seat mates and swung around to 422, but got pretty low so we'll just have to yell across the arena.
Just booked a bit ago and there were a ton of upper deck centers available, I'm guessing we lose another 2000 season ticket holders.
Wish there was a way to punish those that drop tickets when the team struggles and only buy when they're good.
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Wish there was a way to punish those that drop tickets when the team struggles and only buy when they're good.
They do get punished, as they lose a chunk of B&G points for consecutive ticket buying.
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Ha ha....we switched seat mates and swung around to 422, but got pretty low so we'll just have to yell across the arena.
Just booked a bit ago and there were a ton of upper deck centers available, I'm guessing we lose another 2000 season ticket holders.
Wish there was a way to punish those that drop tickets when the team struggles and only buy when they're good.
Great choice. We've sat there previously. But chick has this thing about grabbing a handful of cookies from the Courtside Club and delivering them to the students as we pass by. Don't tell Joe True! Heck, he sees her do it already. See you at the beer garden 03eng!
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They do get punished, as they lose a chunk of B&G points for consecutive ticket buying.
Correct. Pretty big penalty for dropping altogether.
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They do get punished, as they lose a chunk of B&G points for consecutive ticket buying.
Rather than drop, probably wiser to just purchase 2 seats in the $120 section. Even if you don't go, you can probably make the money back on marquee games if you just sell them off, and that way keep the consecutive seasons B&G points.
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Even just buy 1 single in upper end zone. Keep the streak.
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Rather than drop, probably wiser to just purchase 2 seats in the $120 section. Even if you don't go, you can probably make the money back on marquee games if you just sell them off, and that way keep the consecutive seasons B&G points.
Giving away the trade secrets brew! But you're right. A great choice for out of town folks. I think 03eng is right about another drop of at least 1500 season tickets. One other point, if one drops, you don't re-enter the June reseating. New season tickets go on sale in July typically. Only the following year would you participate now.
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They do get punished, as they lose a chunk of B&G points for consecutive ticket buying.
cool, never really paid that close of attention
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I picked last night and we decided to move upstairs for the first time in years. We travel from SE Minnesota and usually only get to about 10 games per season, so we decided to economize. Used to pay $570 + $120 B&G/ticket, now paying just $275/ticket. Got section 441, row A. Just a few feet from the last student section. Just hope there are some students in the uppers this season....
I guess the good news with the yearly reseating is if we decide these seats suck, we can always move back down next year. ;)
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I picked last night and we decided to move upstairs for the first time in years. We travel from SE Minnesota and usually only get to about 10 games per season, so we decided to economize. Used to pay $570 + $120 B&G/ticket, now paying just $275/ticket. Got section 441, row A. Just a few feet from the last student section. Just hope there are some students in the uppers this season....
I guess the good news with the yearly reseating is if we decide these seats suck, we can always move back down next year. ;)
I've been sitting in 441 for over a decade.
There are 4 seats available in Row B of 441. Three of them are together, and 1 is two seats down. It would be smart of MU, (and nice for me), if Marquette slid three people down to not leave a single empty. I don't know who I can talk to about that.
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Try Crean, Coach Thomas, hey?
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I've been sitting in 441 for over a decade.
There are 4 seats available in Row B of 441. Three of them are together, and 1 is two seats down. It would be smart of MU, (and nice for me), if Marquette slid three people down to not leave a single empty. I don't know who I can talk to about that.
The problem was corrected. Thank for your help, guys!
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As 'Topper predicted, all the sections I wanted went. D'oh. Only singles left. Looking now at 219, 209, and 205. About 30 minutes left...debating if it's worth going higher for an aisle seat. Right now, P is probably the lowest I can certainly get 2. Decisions, decisions...
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I picked last night and we decided to move upstairs for the first time in years. We travel from SE Minnesota and usually only get to about 10 games per season, so we decided to economize. Used to pay $570 + $120 B&G/ticket, now paying just $275/ticket. Got section 441, row A. Just a few feet from the last student section. Just hope there are some students in the uppers this season....
I guess the good news with the yearly reseating is if we decide these seats suck, we can always move back down next year. ;)
As long as it was not seat #12 in Sec 441, you are good. On the sections other than those on the baseline extended, the plexiglass can be in the viewing path. This is a bigger concern for Row B than Row A, but it does come into play in select seats in Row A as well.
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Moved to 209. Best seats as far as closest to the court were there, and I remembered Litehouse mentioning the proximity to the premium bar. Could have got an aisle in 205, but would have been 5 rows higher. Also looked at 219, still good options there, but would have been a few rows higher, and much higher for an aisle. Wanted to stick below Row S (thanks 'Topper) and I'm pleased with what I got!
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As long as it was not seat #12 in Sec 441, you are good. On the sections other than those on the baseline extended, the plexiglass can be in the viewing path. This is a bigger concern for Row B than Row A, but it does come into play in select seats in Row A as well.
Yes, I sat upstairs several years back and made the mistake of getting seats too close to the plexiglass. We got seats far enough away so that it won't be an issue this time.
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Moved to 209. Best seats as far as closest to the court were there, and I remembered Litehouse mentioning the proximity to the premium bar. Could have got an aisle in 205, but would have been 5 rows higher. Also looked at 219, still good options there, but would have been a few rows higher, and much higher for an aisle. Wanted to stick below Row S (thanks 'Topper) and I'm pleased with what I got!
Welcome to the South Side! I'm in 208 again, got the same seats as the past several years.
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They only give you 15 minutes to select your seats? I wasn't able to log in at the appointed time, but did about an hour afterward.
Seems like a very, very limited window.
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They only give you 15 minutes to select your seats? I wasn't able to log in at the appointed time, but did about an hour afterward.
Seems like a very, very limited window.
Uhhh...it's 30 minutes.... :o
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Uhhh...it's 30 minutes.... :o
It took me 15 seconds...a Pitino record!
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So Evil, ya dribbled down yo leg too, hey?
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Uhhh...it's 30 minutes.... :o
Which would be fine, if they didn't select them in 13 minutes... But, summer weekends should be eliminated from the selection times.
/puts on gold vest
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My seats from last year were already gone at appt. time. Was able to move over a section and into Row A, though. And closer to the SE beer garden on 4. Huge plus in my book... every game's a win, now.
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Who's the bastard who took seats 11 & 12 on the rail in section 441? I was eye balling those for half a day. They got taken 2 minutes before my time. Now im in 425 on the rail in the middle. YOu bastard.
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Who's the bastard who took seats 11 & 12 on the rail in section 441? I was eye balling those for half a day. They got taken 2 minutes before my time. Now im in 425 on the rail in the middle. YOu bastard.
Thank people like GooooMarquette for screwing it up. At least we know there will be two empty seats in Row A for most games. I had to take 441 B 11/12. I've had the seats for years but it was nicer when we had center of the section.
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Bought 3 this year with a 3 year old now, had to move sections as the seats we wanted, there were only 2 available in that row.
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Thank people like GooooMarquette for screwing it up. At least we know there will be two empty seats in Row A for most games. I had to take 441 B 11/12. I've had the seats for years but it was nicer when we had center of the section.
Nope - I wasn't the one to take seats 11 & 12. I'm sure you'll find your villian at the first game....
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I noticed a lot more people doing "skip dibs" on the non-license seats this year (i.e. those seats where you can actually choose the specific seats), in other words, I'm seeing more incidents where several non-contiguous single seats in a row are available one hour and gone the next... seats that no one would in their right mind would pick unless they either a) were buying just one seat or b) actually knew who was in the seats around them.
No... Benny has not done this. I just email my cousin my seats after selecting, and he picks his a few hours later. Some years we're next to each other, other years (like this one), I'm in seats 1-4, he's a couple seats over in the row behind us... since we're in the upstairs slums (read: lots of no-shows), we usually end up sitting next to each other any way. But I'm noticing it becoming more common at re-seating, especially in Sections 441, 403 and 410-412.
How I think it works is like this: you have your appt. at X time. Your buddy has his appt. materially later than you (one hour to several days). You guys want to get your seats together, but you want to take advantage of the selection at the earlier appt., so the one with the earlier appt. selects seats leaving a "gap" that anyone except your buddy would find undesirable.
Examples:
A) You want six seats together. At your selection time you select four seats: 2-3-5-6, and your buddy selects seats 1 and 4 at his.
B) You want five seats together (3 for you, 2 for him) in a row with only six seats (1-6) left. You pick 2-4-5, he picks 1 and 3.
C) More common, but more risky: You want four seats together on the aisle. You pick seats 3-4, he picks 1-2. (since this only deters people looking for more than 2 seats, probably used only when appt. times are close together).
And so forth. Of course, you risk someone who only wants a single seat picking one of the "dib seats" (or maybe just a troublemaker... no one here, of course) and screwing it up for both of you.
That said, I don't have a problem with it because a) there is some risk involved and b) if you want a better selection at your appt. time, up your points. Anyone else noticing this, or am I just too cynical?
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I will say this Benny. I think chick and I benefit from the fact that we only purchase 2 tickets.
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I will say this Benny. I think chick and I benefit from the fact that we only purchase 2 tickets.
I suppose I'm fortunate that the only check I'm writing to Marquette annually on behalf of my kids is for their full-price MBB season ticket. I probably should see the benefit in that.
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I suppose I'm fortunate that the only check I'm writing to Marquette annually on behalf of my kids is for their full-price MBB season ticket. I probably should see the benefit in that.
Not a bad B-Day gift idea for post graduation.
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I noticed a lot more people doing "skip dibs" on the non-license seats this year (i.e. those seats where you can actually choose the specific seats), in other words, I'm seeing more incidents where several non-contiguous single seats in a row are available one hour and gone the next... seats that no one would in their right mind would pick unless they either a) were buying just one seat or b) actually knew who was in the seats around them.
No... Benny has not done this. I just email my cousin my seats after selecting, and he picks his a few hours later. Some years we're next to each other, other years (like this one), I'm in seats 1-4, he's a couple seats over in the row behind us... since we're in the upstairs slums (read: lots of no-shows), we usually end up sitting next to each other any way. But I'm noticing it becoming more common at re-seating, especially in Sections 441, 403 and 410-412.
How I think it works is like this: you have your appt. at X time. Your buddy has his appt. materially later than you (one hour to several days). You guys want to get your seats together, but you want to take advantage of the selection at the earlier appt., so the one with the earlier appt. selects seats leaving a "gap" that anyone except your buddy would find undesirable.
Examples:
A) You want six seats together. At your selection time you select four seats: 2-3-5-6, and your buddy selects seats 1 and 4 at his.
B) You want five seats together (3 for you, 2 for him) in a row with only six seats (1-6) left. You pick 2-4-5, he picks 1 and 3.
C) More common, but more risky: You want four seats together on the aisle. You pick seats 3-4, he picks 1-2. (since this only deters people looking for more than 2 seats, probably used only when appt. times are close together).
And so forth. Of course, you risk someone who only wants a single seat picking one of the "dib seats" (or maybe just a troublemaker... no one here, of course) and screwing it up for both of you.
That said, I don't have a problem with it because a) there is some risk involved and b) if you want a better selection at your appt. time, up your points. Anyone else noticing this, or am I just too cynical?
This is pretty spot on, and I know people who have done it before. Friend had a wife with an MU degree so was materially ahead of the other person in B&G points. Wanted 4 seats, so the one with more points bought 3 leaving a single. Other guy grabbed the single and paid buddy for 1 of the 3 tickets.