Per email I received:
Marquette names Bill Scholl new Athletic Director
MILWAUKEE – Bill Scholl, director of intercollegiate athletics at Ball State University, will serve as Marquette University's next vice president and director of athletics, President Michael R. Lovell announced. Scholl has more than two decades of athletics administration experience and oversaw 19 NCAA Division I athletic programs at Ball State. He will begin at Marquette mid-October.
"Our search committee did a tremendous job of finding a leader who embraces our tradition, shares our values and shows an adept ability to navigate the changing landscape of intercollegiate athletics," said President Michael R. Lovell. "Bill brings a combination of strong leadership qualities that are grounded in integrity, an extensive history of leading successful athletic programs and a track record of developing student-athletes who are scholars and who compete at the highest level of NCAA athletics."
Scholl, who will report directly to President Lovell, takes over an athletic department with new leaders directing its signature programs, men's and women's basketball. Steve Wojciechowski was named the head coach of the men's basketball program on April 1, and Carolyn Kieger was named the head women's basketball coach a month later. "Bill's experience is the perfect complement to our young and energetic head coaches," President Lovell said.
"Marquette clearly is committed to excellence in all of its athletics programs and boasts one of the premier men's basketball programs in the nation," Scholl said. "I look forward not only to helping maintain that standard but working with our programs as we strive to reach new heights. Equally important to me is the fit I have with the faith-based values of Marquette. Through my discussions with university leaders, I am excited to be part of a culture that is so genuinely committed to service."
Past successes and service
Scholl has led the Ball State Cardinals since 2012, during which eight programs have reached the postseason and 13 teams placed either first or second in the Mid-American Conference. Ball State has boasted four All-Americans in each of his two years and the Cardinals placed 54 student-athletes on all-conference teams in 2013-14, a 14.9-percent increase over Scholl's first year and a 54.3-percent increase over the year before his arrival.
In his time at Ball State, he also served as chairperson of the Mid-American Conference's basketball issues working group and was a member of the conference's finance committee. He oversaw a number of on-campus facility upgrades including the renovation of baseball and softball stadiums and the groundbreaking for a new football facility for team meetings and office space.
Under Scholl's leadership at Ball State, student-athletes also saw success in the classroom, with 14 teams scoring better than the national Division I average in the NCAA's Academic Progress Report baseline. The men's basketball team climbed in its academic standing steadily, posting a 2013 score that is 20 points higher than the national average.
Prior to his term at Ball State, Scholl served 23 years at Notre Dame, where he finished as deputy athletics director. He was responsible for administration of men's basketball, football, baseball and men's soccer, as well as fundraising and donor relations, budgeting and growing external revenue. Scholl collaborated with the university's advancement office to lead the athletics department in an $84 million athletics fundraising initiative for the Spirit of Notre Dame campaign.
Early in his career, Scholl held leadership positions in service-driven organizations. He was the former director of financial development for the 1987 International Summer Special Olympic Games. He served in the same position for one year at South Bend's Logan Center, which offers services to persons with developmental disabilities. While working for Special Olympics, he raised in excess of $8 million for the 1987 games.
Dr. Bill Henk, dean of Marquette's College of Education, chaired the search committee for the new vice president and director of athletics. Henk is a member of the University Academic Senate and University Leadership Council. He was a student-athlete in his undergraduate days, playing basketball at Edinboro University in Pennsylvania.
"This process was an excellent marriage between our talented Korn/Ferry search firm partners and our deeply thoughtful search committee, one that resulted in hiring a seasoned athletic leader with integrity and vision," Henk said. "In addition to seeking a proven winner, we aspired to securing an athletic director who understood Marquette, our mission, and the importance of the student-athlete experience."
Marquette had a strong pool of candidates that included sitting athletic directors, up-and-coming deputy athletic directors, and qualified candidates outside of collegiate athletics. Many candidates were from top FBS collegiate programs.
Scholl earned a bachelor's degree in American studies in 1979 from Notre Dame. He and his wife, Julie, have three children: Michael (a 2009 Notre Dame graduate), Stefanie (a 2012 Ball State graduate) and Kelly (a 2014 Notre Dame graduate).
"I am truly honored and thrilled to join the Marquette family," Scholl said. "I want to thank Dr. Lovell, Bill Henk and the search committee, as well as everyone I met with and spoke to about this position. It is clear how much everyone here loves Marquette, the mission of the university, and the fact that athletics is part of the fabric at this great institution."
Another Notre dame grad?
Damn it!
Oh no another Domer! Let the complaining begin!
Salt stained hat wearer?
Ball State Bio
http://ballstatesports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=14200&ATCLID=205421921
Meh. Lots to like and dislike about the hire. I'll give it a chance.
Mo Aker submitted the suggestion.
Quote from: Benny B on September 09, 2014, 10:02:49 AM
Meh. Lots to like and dislike about the hire. I'll give it a chance.
I don't know the first thing about this gentleman, so I have nothing to either like or dislike about the hire.
I'll give it a chance because:
1. It's the right thing to do.
2. I have no choice.
Welcome to Marquette, Bill!
He didn't rip Wojo or remind him that he's the boss, so I guess that's a good start.
Deputy AD means he was basically Notre Dame's Mike Broker, right? If so I think it's a pretty good hire. ND sucks for many reasons, but there is no denying that it has a monstrous athletic department.
So, is Broeker's job safe? Does a new AD typically come in and form their own team?
New President. New Athletic Director. New Basketball Coach.
Same winning tradition.
;D
Quote from: MU82 on September 09, 2014, 10:08:50 AM
I don't know the first thing about this gentleman, so I have nothing to either like or dislike about the hire.
I'll give it a chance because:
1. It's the right thing to do.
2. I have no choice.
Welcome to Marquette, Bill!
Yep. One thing seems clear to me, that with the hiring of Lovell, Wojo and Scholl (with his background at ND) that Marquette has a clear understanding of how it wants to achieve athletic success and how intercollegiate athletics should fit at the University.
SP, LW and Buzz were never going to work because I don't think they were on the same page to begin with, and lacked the political, professional and personal abilities to get on the same page. I think this group will get along much better in that regard.
Not sure it matters, but Kevin White (Duke's athletic director) used to work at Notre Dame so there are some (admittedly tenuous) connections between Scholl and Wojo.
Quote from: keefe on September 09, 2014, 10:00:46 AM
Salt stained hat wearer?
Class ring wearer?
/May the words: "The Notre Dame Way", never pass his lips.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on September 09, 2014, 10:21:13 AM
Yep. One thing seems clear to me, that with the hiring of Lovell, Wojo and Scholl (with his background at ND) that Marquette has a clear understanding of how it wants to achieve athletic success and how intercollegiate athletics should fit at the University.
SP, LW and Buzz were never going to work because I don't think they were on the same page to begin with, and lacked the political, professional and personal abilities to get on the same page. I think this group will get along much better in that regard.
Not sure it matters, but Kevin White (Duke's athletic director) used to work at Notre Dame so there are some (admittedly tenuous) connections between Scholl and Wojo.
You realized that reasoned arguments have no place in this thread. You're supposed to look through his bio and find the first thing that causes an emotional reaction and go off half-cocked about that.
Then again, this thread might also serve a useful purpose, watch for those that get all bent out of shape that he's a domer ... they are the one's that were rejected by ND and never got past it.
Can he flush a toilet?
Please tell me he's getting his Ph.D. in Sports Management or something, because then he would be the perfect guy to keep the Athletic Department on good footing.
If Shaka's wife signs off on this, can donedeal be consumated?
I get that Notre Dame is a rival, but outside of sports, why all the hate? Because they're successful?
I know Bill from his days at Notre Dame and always really liked him - looking forward to having him on board at Marquette
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on September 09, 2014, 10:21:13 AM
Yep. One thing seems clear to me, that with the hiring of Lovell, Wojo and Scholl (with his background at ND) that Marquette has a clear understanding of how it wants to achieve athletic success and how intercollegiate athletics should fit at the University.
SP, LW and Buzz were never going to work because I don't think they were on the same page to begin with, and lacked the political, professional and personal abilities to get on the same page. I think this group will get along much better in that regard.
Not sure it matters, but Kevin White (Duke's athletic director) used to work at Notre Dame so there are some (admittedly tenuous) connections between Scholl and Wojo.
Ah, Kevin White ... the guy who extended Bob Davie's contract for absolutely no reason.
We used to celebrate what separated us from the arrogance in South Bend. Now the goal is to be their not quite as bright little brother. Whoopee!
Quote from: DienerTime34 on September 09, 2014, 10:37:13 AM
I get that Notre Dame is a rival, but outside of sports, why all the hate? Because they're successful?
I don't know. Because their student body and alumni base are a bunch of brie eating namby pambys?
What worries me as that he got his degree in "American Studies" at ND. That is the throw-away program that they toss all of the "student athletes" into who don't have a prayer in completing the general curriculum. Basically ND's version of basket weaving. Looks like he took the short bus to South Bend.
I can't remember the last time there was so much positivity surrounding the bball program and University as a whole. Even through the 3 consecutive Sweet 16 streak I had this feeling that "shady" things were being done behind the scenes to protect players/coaches. Trying to remain a realist when it comes to expectations for this season and I fully anticipate it being littered with growing pains but 2015 and beyond I have very high hopes for!!
Quote from: mu-rara on September 09, 2014, 10:40:26 AM
I don't know. Because their student body and alumni base are a bunch of brie eating namby pambys?
They win a lot and are a great academic school. I hope we go the opposite direction!
Not thrilled about the ND connection for the simple fact he probably hated MU at some point, especially since he was at ND as a student in the late 70's. Now I don't doubt he'll do his best to lead MU's athletics, but of all the schools in all the land why did we have to hire a Domer?
Bill Scholl named Marquette’s new Athletic DirectorMarquette has one less vacancy in its administrative team after tapping Bill Scholl to be the new Athletic Director. Scholl is currently the AD at Ball State but will take over duties in Milwaukee in mid-October, according to Marquette's announcement. He began his tenure there in 2012 after spending 23 years at Notre Dame. From Marquette's [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://pixel.wp.com/b.gif?host=painttouches.com&blog=28348875&post=12004&subd=painttouches&ref=&feed=1" width="1" height="1" />
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Quote from: PJDunn on September 09, 2014, 10:40:47 AM
What worries me as that he got his degree in "American Studies" at ND. That is the throw-away program that they toss all of the "student athletes" into who don't have a prayer in completing the general curriculum. Basically ND's version of basket weaving. Looks like he took the short bus to South Bend.
Because your major in college is much more important than the 35 years of experience and accomplishments you've had since.
Quote from: warriorchick on September 09, 2014, 10:45:48 AM
Because your major in college is much more important than the 35 years of experience and accomplishments you've had since.
Also, how tall is he without shoes? We need answers.
Quote from: Heavy Gear on September 09, 2014, 10:45:01 AM
Not thrilled about the ND connection for the simple fact he probably hated MU at some point, especially since he was at ND as a student in the late 70's. Now I don't doubt he'll his best to lead MU's athletics, but of all the schools in all the land why did we have to hire a Domer?
Agreed.
This dude will wear a Marquette sweater, but we all know he has Notre Dame underwear.
Can't wait for him and WeirdJo to be gone.
We need Wardle, somebody who is truly passionate about MU.
Quote from: warriorchick on September 09, 2014, 10:45:48 AM
Because your major in college is much more important than the 35 years of experience and accomplishments you've had since.
It would be nice to have someone with a bit of intellectual capacity. I may be asking too much...
Quote from: Heisenberg on September 09, 2014, 10:26:04 AM
You realized that reasoned arguments have no place in this thread. You're supposed to look through his bio and find the first thing that causes an emotional reaction and go off half-cocked about that.
Then again, this thread might also serve a useful purpose, watch for those that get all bent out of shape that he's a domer ... they are the one's that were rejected by ND and never got past it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dy_DASt7hDs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dy_DASt7hDs)
I'm getting really tired of Marquette not posing these big decisions into a poll-thread on Scoop to have them vetted by us internet nerds.
Everyone's complaints are annoying.
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on September 09, 2014, 11:06:33 AM
I'm getting really tired of Marquette not posing these big decisions into a poll-thread on Scoop to have them vetted by us internet nerds.
Damn right!
" A source within the administration confirmed to Paint Touches earlier in the year that Williams was fired in part to please a prominent donor who thought Larry did not appreciate Buzz enough."
Boom. Dropping bombs! Finally!
Quote from: Skatastrophy on September 09, 2014, 11:15:58 AM
" A source within the administration confirmed to Paint Touches earlier in the year that Williams was fired in part to please a prominent donor who thought Larry did not appreciate Buzz enough."
Boom. Dropping bombs! Finally!
Yea well Buzz saw the writing on the wall too and got the hell out of dodge before things got ugly.
Quote from: mu-rara on September 09, 2014, 10:40:26 AM
I don't know. Because their student body and alumni base are a bunch of brie eating namby pambys?
Hey! You leave brie out of this, mister!
Welcome aboard, Notre Dame Bill !
Quote from: Skatastrophy on September 09, 2014, 11:15:58 AM
" A source within the administration confirmed to Paint Touches earlier in the year that Williams was fired in part to please a prominent donor who thought Larry did not appreciate Buzz enough."
Boom. Dropping bombs! Finally!
The myth that LW left voluntarily officially put to rest.
Quote from: Skatastrophy on September 09, 2014, 11:15:58 AM
" A source within the administration confirmed to Paint Touches earlier in the year that Williams was fired in part to please a prominent donor who thought Larry did not appreciate Buzz enough."
Boom. Dropping bombs! Finally!
Looks like we could already have a problema. Reports indicate that Bill Scholl has little appreciation for Buzz.
Got chit canned, aina?
Quote from: Heavy Gear on September 09, 2014, 10:45:01 AM
Not thrilled about the ND connection for the simple fact he probably hated MU at some point, especially since he was at ND as a student in the late 70's. Now I don't doubt he'll do his best to lead MU's athletics, but of all the schools in all the land why did we have to hire a Domer?
To irritate you.
2.5 years at Ball State seems like a short visit as his only time spent in the lead role. It does look like he had good experience at ND, though.
Quote from: PJDunn on September 09, 2014, 10:40:47 AM
What worries me as that he got his degree in "American Studies" at ND. That is the throw-away program that they toss all of the "student athletes" into who don't have a prayer in completing the general curriculum. Basically ND's version of basket weaving. Looks like he took the short bus to South Bend.
I agree! Years of accomplishments during his professional career don't overcome this glaring wart on his CV related to his schooling of approximately 71,431 years ago.
Quote from: martyconlonontherun on September 09, 2014, 11:49:30 AM
2.5 years at Ball State seems like a short visit as his only time spent in the lead role. It does look like he had good experience at ND, though.
I'm buying the "shares our values" line, but the bolded stuff couldn't have hurt.
"Prior to his term at Ball State, Scholl served 23 years at Notre Dame, where he finished as deputy athletics director. He was
responsible for administration of men's basketball, football, baseball and men's soccer, as well as
fundraising and donor relations, budgeting and growing external revenue. Scholl collaborated with the university's advancement office to lead the athletics department in an $84 million athletics fundraising initiative for the Spirit of Notre Dame campaign."Since Scholl and Larry Williams would have spent some time together in ND's athletic department, Maybe Scholl has previous experience smoothing things over with donors who had their feathers ruffled by Williams.
So wait, are people legitimately upset that this guy went to ND? Or is this faux rage born of it being 31 days until madness?
He will either sabotage the program because he's a Domer and hates MU or because he was a small school AD and doesn't understand the importance in winning basketball games. They had to dig deep to find Larry 2.0!
We need to fund raise to keep up so his background is good.
Quote from: Skatastrophy on September 09, 2014, 11:15:58 AM
" A source within the administration confirmed to Paint Touches earlier in the year that Williams was fired in part to please a prominent donor who thought Larry did not appreciate Buzz enough."
Boom. Dropping bombs! Finally!
Seriously? Am I missing some teal or something? Because if that's true it kind of deserves its own story and not a buried afterthought.
Quote from: Heavy Gear on September 09, 2014, 10:45:01 AM
Not thrilled about the ND connection for the simple fact he probably hated MU at some point, especially since he was at ND as a student in the late 70's. Now I don't doubt he'll do his best to lead MU's athletics, but of all the schools in all the land why did we have to hire a Domer?
Really? Do you really think domers give a sh## about MU? We are the ones who obsess, not them. He worked in one of the best Atletic departments in the country for a long time. The Domers get it done. He is a solid hire. If some of the Irish luck rubs off, we are in better shape.
Here's the mind blower for me, Scholl was hired by Ball State April 30, 2012, four months after MU hired Larry Williams. So, Pilarz could most likely could have hired this guy in the first place and saved MU a lot of grief. Oi Vey! Another nail in the Pilarz coffin.
Quote from: Skatastrophy on September 09, 2014, 11:15:58 AM
" A source within the administration confirmed to Paint Touches earlier in the year that Williams was fired in part to please a prominent donor who thought Larry did not appreciate Buzz enough."
Boom. Dropping bombs! Finally!
That must have been a very strong donor. Kind of a dick move to get the AD fired and all.
I'm done for the day.
Quote from: chapman on September 09, 2014, 12:22:01 PM
That must have been a very strong donor. Kind of a dick move to get the AD fired and all.
I'm done for the day.
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Quote from: chapman on September 09, 2014, 12:22:01 PM
That must have been a very strong donor. Kind of a dick move to get the AD fired and all.
I'm done for the day.
Subtle.
Quote from: LittleMurs on September 09, 2014, 12:21:17 PM
Here's the mind blower for me, Scholl was hired by Ball State April 30, 2012, four months after MU hired Larry Williams. So, Pilarz could most likely could have hired this guy in the first place and saved MU a lot of grief. Oi Vey! Another nail in the Pilarz coffin.
Or he could've been the one canned and we hire LW now.
Quote from: DienerTime34 on September 09, 2014, 10:42:49 AM
They win a lot and are a great academic school. I hope we go the opposite direction!
Yes--and don't forget that they are now glorifying that academic cheater, their current QB, Golson. Unrelated, but probably an interesting study: How many students cheat on exams, get kicked out of school, and then return to the same school? Anybody know? Would think that most kids in that scenario would be too embarrassed--but not Golson. And the ND faithful have forgotten and forgiven--as long as he is winning football games.
Quote from: mu-rara on September 09, 2014, 10:40:26 AM
I don't know. Because their student body and alumni base are a bunch of brie eating namby pambys?
You forgot one word, "arrogant". "A bunch of
arrogant brie eating namby pambys.
So we're going independent, then?
Quote from: LittleMurs on September 09, 2014, 12:21:17 PM
Here's the mind blower for me, Scholl was hired by Ball State April 30, 2012, four months after MU hired Larry Williams. So, Pilarz could most likely could have hired this guy in the first place and saved MU a lot of grief. Oi Vey! Another nail in the Pilarz coffin.
You are forgetting that Buzz did not approve of the Williams hire, and is not there now to approve/disapprove of this hire.
Quote from: martyconlonontherun on September 09, 2014, 12:36:13 PM
Or he could've been the one canned and we hire LW now.
My way of thinkin': No way Marquette hires Larry Williams without Pilarz as president. A laissez faire attitude toward fundraising was necessary for that to happen.
Quote from: willie warrior on September 09, 2014, 12:44:06 PM
You are forgetting that Buzz did not approve of the Williams hire, and is not there now to approve/disapprove of this hire.
I'm not sure what you're saying.
has he been fitted for a walking boot?
1) He's a Domer, so what? Maybe he signed on at Marquette so that even at this late stage of his life, he could obtain a real education!
2) Seriously, let's not be judgmental. Let's give this time to work. basketball is too big a cash cow to be cheap about it and something tells me this guy is pretty good.
I knew two people that interviewed about 4 to 6 weeks ago. Spoke to both of them and they said the "process" was good, they enjoyed the experience, it was well run, etc. Obviously didn't post that here.
Scholl was not one of those people. Hopefully he is a solid choice. For those complaining about past experience, this is always the type of person MU is going to get if it hires from within the college ranks because of the lack of football. For the record, those two I mention above were coming from outside, though in former lives they had college athletics experience long ago.
I have no problem with a Notre Dame grad at the helm, but realize that is a death sentence for some of you. I'm sure UF fans wouldn't want a FSU guy running their department, or OSU having a Michigan person. It is what it is.
Welcome to MU, B.S.
I will judge this AD, as I did his predecessor. By his words and his actions. The whole ND thing is just rivalry smack talk. When I thought LW did a good job, I said so. When I didn't, I said so. On balance, due to his words and actions, I was not a fan of LW. But I give Mr. Scholl a clean slate.
What is a no brainer with this hire, just like the LW hire is that MU is going to win a certain way. If the Wojo hire didn't send off major signal to that cause, I don't know what does.
Many ways to skin the cat on winning, and that's going to rub a lot of people here the wrong way.
Buzz couldn't handle that way of winning, so he got the AD canned when it should have been the AD getting Buzz canned. Ultimately, justice prevailed.
With the new pres, with Wojo and this hire (similar to LW), we're going to keep on winning but we're going to win in a different way. Let the screaming begin.
Quote from: Aughnanure on September 09, 2014, 11:07:30 AM
Everyone's complaints are annoying.
Most accurate thing I've read in the thread.
Welcome to the Marquette family Bill. May you have a long and fruitful career here at Marquette.
Quote from: chapman on September 09, 2014, 12:22:01 PM
That must have been a very strong donor. Kind of a dick move to get the AD fired and all.
I'm done for the day.
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Quote from: willie warrior on September 09, 2014, 12:38:58 PM
Yes--and don't forget that they are now glorifying that academic cheater, their current QB, Golson. Unrelated, but probably an interesting study: How many students cheat on exams, get kicked out of school, and then return to the same school? Anybody know? Would think that most kids in that scenario would be too embarrassed--but not Golson. And the ND faithful have forgotten and forgiven--as long as he is winning football games.
We glorified Rick Majerus who admitted to cheating at Marquette in school. How does that make us any different?
Heard Scholl chested up Wojo in the Al hallway yesterday.
Quote from: Heavy Gear on September 09, 2014, 10:45:01 AM
Not thrilled about the ND connection for the simple fact he probably hated MU at some point, especially since he was at ND as a student in the late 70's. Now I don't doubt he'll do his best to lead MU's athletics, but of all the schools in all the land why did we have to hire a Domer?
You cannot be serious........................
Quote from: Lennys Tap on September 09, 2014, 10:40:06 AM
We used to celebrate what separated us from the arrogance in South Bend. Now the goal is to be their not quite as bright little brother. Whoopee!
I agree with my old friend Lenny. I'm sure Scholl is a great guy, competent in all respects. Nonetheless, my preference is that MU not try too hard to emulate ND. Felt that way when Williams was hired--how'd that work out? Scholl's a Domer, just like we're Warriors or Golden Eagles. This hire makes me wonder as to the quality of the other applicants, too. On the other hand, having to overcome his obvious handicap, he must be something special.
Nonetheless, I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt and hope for great success.
Quote from: PTM on September 09, 2014, 02:14:13 PM
Heard Scholl chested up Wojo in the Al hallway yesterday.
And then they both slapped the floor in the hallway.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on September 09, 2014, 01:36:14 PM
What is a no brainer with this hire, just like the LW hire is that MU is going to win a certain way. If the Wojo
Buzz couldn't handle that way of winning, so he got the AD canned when it should have been the AD getting Buzz canned. Ultimately, justice prevailed.
Pilarz is reading poetry with 15 year old pimple faced boys in DC. LW, fired after the shortest AD tenure in MU history, is out of the AD business and is currently a "consultant" (code for looking for work). Buzz is still coaching D1 basketball, making 2.7 million per with a better contract than the one he left behind.
Scott and Larry sure showed Buzz. LOL.
As long as he doesn't act like he's been hit in the head a few too many times like LW, I'm okay with this guy.
seems like the same people supporting BS supported LW. For all of us, I hope they are right this time.
For right now I agree....
Give (ND) peace a chance folks.
Quote from: DienerTime34 on September 09, 2014, 10:46:54 AM
Also, how tall is he without shoes? We need answers.
More importantly, is he a Sperry Topsider man?
President Lovell is into accumulating university wealth with this hire.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on September 09, 2014, 01:36:14 PM
What is a no brainer with this hire, just like the LW hire is that MU is going to win a certain way. If the Wojo hire didn't send off major signal to that cause, I don't know what does.
Many ways to skin the cat on winning, and that's going to rub a lot of people here the wrong way.
Buzz couldn't handle that way of winning, so he got the AD canned when it should have been the AD getting Buzz canned. Ultimately, justice prevailed.
With the new pres, with Wojo and this hire (similar to LW), we're going to keep on winning but we're going to win in a different way. Let the screaming begin.
Lol...because Shaka, Cuonzo and Ben fit that "Bill". You don't give your ex-boss any credit for hiring the best basketball coach available. That was the MU profile not your silly storyline. Otherwise Bill Carmody would have been on the interview list...and MU would be sniffing DePaul's rare air.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on September 09, 2014, 05:17:59 PM
Lol...because Shaka, Cuonzo and Ben fit that "Bill".
How many of those truly were happening........or even in play.........
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on September 09, 2014, 05:23:37 PM
How many of those truly were happening........or even in play.........
2/3
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on September 09, 2014, 05:23:37 PM
How many of those truly were happening........or even in play.........
All were interviewed formally, two more deeply. Why waste time or have your name associated with them if not?
Quote from: classof70 on September 09, 2014, 03:21:40 PM
I agree with my old friend Lenny. I'm sure Scholl is a great guy, competent in all respects. Nonetheless, my preference is that MU not try too hard to emulate ND. Felt that way when Williams was hired--how'd that work out?
LW's problems at MU weren't because he was a Domer.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on September 09, 2014, 05:26:10 PM
All were interviewed formally, two more deeply. Why waste time or have your name associated with them if not?
To my understanding, two were offered the job. We can debate ad nauseum how much true interest there was at the end of the interviews. Lots of people get interviewed in jobs, it's who you want at the end that determines if one is in play or desired....not every guy that ends up describing his resume is in play, regardless if they were interviewed formally.
Maybe your sources are different....of course, if they are, you should have known about Mayo a few months back. :D
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on September 09, 2014, 05:17:59 PM
Lol...because Shaka, Cuonzo and Ben fit that "Bill". You don't give your ex-boss any credit for hiring the best basketball coach available. That was the MU profile not your silly storyline. Otherwise Bill Carmody would have been on the interview list...and MU would be sniffing DePaul's rare air.
I give my ex boss plenty of credit. Part of it is fit, where the university is going, etc. Let's just say of the guys that were "formally interviewed", the one that got the job is the one that fits where we are going best. Maybe that is a coincidence, but I think you'll find that isn't going to be the case.
For Lenny, I would dream to have our athletic department be called the little brother to Notre Dame's, that would be an upgrade. If we can get there, where we are winning national championships in other sports, competing at high levels in just about every single one of them, we will have come a long way.
Quote from: chapman on September 09, 2014, 12:22:01 PM
That must have been a very strong donor. Kind of a dick move to get the AD fired and all.
I'm done for the day.
I see what you did there.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on September 09, 2014, 05:07:38 PM
President Lovell is into accumulating university wealth with this hire.
Yes that is the key takeaway. Mr. Scholl s primary job is to raise money. We need funds to compete with Power 5. We need a fieldhouse so Olympic sports can train in bad weather. Success in sports aids general fund raising. Glad we have him. We have plenty of good people in athletic department that can keep the trains running on time.
Quote from: Skatastrophy on September 09, 2014, 11:15:58 AM
" A source within the administration confirmed to Paint Touches earlier in the year that Williams was fired in part to please a prominent donor who thought Larry did not appreciate Buzz enough."
Boom. Dropping bombs! Finally!
There were people on this board (such as me) who were pretty much saying the same thing.
Quote from: Heavy Gear on September 09, 2014, 10:45:01 AM
Not thrilled about the ND connection for the simple fact he probably hated MU at some point, especially since he was at ND as a student in the late 70's. Now I don't doubt he'll do his best to lead MU's athletics, but of all the schools in all the land why did we have to hire a Domer?
ND hates Michigan and USC. MU isn't quite on that level of hate.
Quote from: brandx on September 09, 2014, 07:17:06 PM
ND hates Michigan and USC. MU isn't quite on that level of hate.
Agreed. ND only hates schools it is envious of. They believe they are far superior to MU and feel we are lucky to even be able to schedule a game with them.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on September 09, 2014, 05:23:37 PM
How many of those truly were happening........or even in play.........
Followed by
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on September 09, 2014, 05:54:39 PM
To my understanding, two were offered the job. We can debate ad nauseum how much true interest there was at the end of the interviews. Lots of people get interviewed in jobs, it's who you want at the end that determines if one is in play or desired....not every guy that ends up describing his resume is in play, regardless if they were interviewed formally.
Maybe your sources are different....of course, if they are, you should have known about Mayo a few months back. :D
These types of threads are classic Chicos, he comes in trying to pretend to be a know it all. Grabs bits and pieces from other people and calls it his own, mean while talking out of both sides of his mouth. Smh
Quote from: River rat on September 09, 2014, 07:54:06 PM
Followed by
These types of threads are classic Chicos, he comes in trying to pretend to be a know it all. Grabs bits and pieces from other people and calls it his own, mean while talking out of both sides of his mouth. Smh
Robbie....nothing contradictory there. Unlike your comment the other day that the Big Ten didn't take Prop 48 kids...you were dead wrong. Or your comments on Mayo...you were dead wrong.
But hey Robbie, keep it going...always fun. How are the cattle?
Quote from: Texas Western on September 09, 2014, 07:30:39 PM
Agreed. ND only hates schools it is envious of. They believe they are far superior to MU and feel we are lucky to even be able to schedule a game with them.
Nah
ND doesn't like Michigan because the two of them vie for the all time best winning % in college football
For SC, it has to do with national championships in football.
Chili??
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on September 09, 2014, 05:57:38 PM
I give my ex boss plenty of credit. Part of it is fit, where the university is going, etc. Let's just say of the guys that were "formally interviewed", the one that got the job is the one that fits where we are going best. Maybe that is a coincidence, but I think you'll find that isn't going to be the case.
For Lenny, I would dream to have our athletic department be called the little brother to Notre Dame's, that would be an upgrade. If we can get there, where we are winning national championships in other sports, competing at high levels in just about every single one of them, we will have come a long way.
So, let me get this right...your ex boss...who we all love, is deeply interviewing coaches that don't even come close to fitting your straw man profile? So, you are saying essentially, Cords is a fake? Cuonza and/or Shaka = Wojo? You do realize both are dirtier than Buzz, right?
Btw, LW was a complete wash out...did some things right, ran a mess of a department well in the red (or on the way). Buzz was no better, for the record.
Long day on the road in Denver. Then I get to read this BS.... ;)
Lets not kiss his ring because he's a Domer. His poop smells too. Remember, he comes from the athletic department that has botched several sexual assaults in a HUGE way, the Manti whatever fiasco (god, they looked liked idiots covering for that moron), and the recent cheating scandal.
Dick Rosenthal is the guy who brought all the money to ND with TV deals back in the 80's. He was a neighbor, and a good guy. He also gave that slobbering idiot, Lou Holtz. a pass after Holtz had his prints all over a scandal from his days at Minnesota.
Yes, ND's poop does stink.
BS, I'll be on campus in a couple of weeks. PM me if you want to go for bowl of chili. We can talk dirty ankles and stuff
Quote from: real chili 83 on September 09, 2014, 10:22:50 PM
Long day on the road in Denver. Then I get to read this BS.... ;)
Lets not kiss his ring because he's a Domer. His poop smells too. Remember, he comes from the athletic department that has botched several sexual assaults in a HUGE way, the Manti whatever fiasco (god, they looked liked idiots covering for that moron), and the recent cheating scandal.
Dick Rosenthal is the guy who brought all the money to ND with TV deals back in the 80's. He was a neighbor, and a good guy. He also gave that slobbering idiot, Lou Holtz. a pass after Holtz had his prints all over a scandal from his days at Minnesota.
Yes, ND's poop does stink.
BS, I'll be on campus in a couple of weeks. PM me if you want to go for bowl of chili. We can talk dirty ankles and stuff
The world is right and I can rest easy. Safe travels.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on September 09, 2014, 10:22:33 PM
So, let me get this right...your ex boss...who we all love, is deeply interviewing coaches that don't even come close to fitting your straw man profile? So, you are saying essentially, Cords is a fake? Cuonza and/or Shaka = Wojo? You do realize both are dirtier than Buzz, right?
Btw, LW was a complete wash out...did some things right, ran a mess of a department well in the red (or on the way). Buzz was no better, for the record.
LOL. Nope, but I do like your straw man while accusing me of one....that's rich.
Cuonzo and Shaka....no idea. Don't know them, don't know anyone that knows them closely, but that's the difference.
No one said LW was some kind of stud AD. What I object to is that he did his job and tried to contain someone that needed to be reminded about a few things, and for that the pant pissers here got upset. In the end, he was exactly correct in his concerns. But, in this world there is always a school somewhere that will hire a coach if they win enough and look past some things, but for some people like Lenny that is proof of something....I don't know what, but he seems to like it. I'd remind him that Pat Kennedy got hired multiple places...Bruce Pearl...Todd Bozeman...Quin Snyder...Larry Eustachy...Tim Floyd....just to name a few. Just win baby. All it takes is one school....especially one with one NCAA berth in 20+ years.
Quote from: PJDunn on September 09, 2014, 11:01:15 AM
It would be nice to have someone with a bit of intellectual capacity. I may be asking too much...
Bill Cords did fine with zero intellectual capacity... why change?
Quote from: LloydMooresLegs on September 09, 2014, 11:26:40 PM
The world is right and I can rest easy. Safe travels.
Thanks Legs. I'm off to Salt Lake City this morning. Is it true you can't get a whiskey there???? :o
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on September 10, 2014, 12:05:28 AM
No one said LW was some kind of stud AD. What I object to is that he did his job and tried to contain someone that needed to be reminded about a few things, and for that the pant pissers here got upset. In the end, he was exactly correct in his concerns. But, in this world there is always a school somewhere that will hire a coach if they win enough and look past some things, but for some people like Lenny that is proof of something....I don't know what, but he seems to like it. I'd remind him that Pat Kennedy got hired multiple places...Bruce Pearl...Todd Bozeman...Quin Snyder...Larry Eustachy...Tim Floyd....just to name a few. Just win baby. All it takes is one school....especially one with one NCAA berth in 20+ years.
The problem isn't that he did things that needed to be done. It was how he did those things that were the problem. His execution was clumsy in that he didn't build the base of support he needed.
Chicos - you are such a troll, it's unbelievable. Isn't it you who CONSTANTLY brings up the Chicago Tribune's "coverage" of what was going on in our athletic department? Yet you hold ND's up as some city of gold? This despite a student killing herself after allegations of sexual assault against a football player were swept under the rug? This is the same athletic department who saw a student manager KILLED because he was asked to climb a scaffolding in conditions that were like something out of the Wizard of Oz?
How has coverage of their athletic department been? This is not to mention some academic issues, which I don't really think are all that bad, or the fact that they gave fat, boorish and Caucasian Charlie White a helluva a lot more leeway and money than they did Tyrone Willingham.
Are you telling me you don't remember any of this? That it wasn't covered in the media? Their athletic department has been a borderline disgrace for the past decade.
Can we be just like them?
For the record, I already like this guy better than Larry Williams if only because we haven't yet heard where his kids go to college. Anybody will be an upgrade over that buffoon.
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on September 10, 2014, 05:43:26 AM
For the record, I already like this guy better than Larry Williams if only because we haven't yet heard where his kids go to college. Anybody will be an upgrade over that buffoon.
And I'll be going to tailgate and see one the buffoon's kids play on Sept. 27 in a special game of Army vs. Yale to celebrate the 100th anniversary of the Yale Bowl.
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on September 10, 2014, 05:43:26 AM
Chicos - you are such a troll, it's unbelievable. Isn't it you who CONSTANTLY brings up the Chicago Tribune's "coverage" of what was going on in our athletic department? Yet you hold ND's up as some city of gold? This despite a student killing herself after allegations of sexual assault against a football player were swept under the rug? This is the same athletic department who saw a student manager KILLED because he was asked to climb a scaffolding in conditions that were like something out of the Wizard of Oz?
How has coverage of their athletic department been? This is not to mention some academic issues, which I don't really think are all that bad, or the fact that they gave fat, boorish and Caucasian Charlie White a helluva a lot more leeway and money than they did Tyrone Willingham.
Are you telling me you don't remember any of this? That it wasn't covered in the media? Their athletic department has been a borderline disgrace for the past decade.
Can we be just like them?
For the record, I already like this guy better than Larry Williams if only because we haven't yet heard where his kids go to college. Anybody will be an upgrade over that buffoon.
Nailed it.
In the past few years the ND athletic department/football machine has stonewalled a sexual assault allegation that caused a young woman's death, ordered a student manager to walk the plank to his death, covered up the exceedingly odd (at best) behavior their star football player, overseen multiple academic cheating scandals and celebrated the return to the playing field of their most famous cheater. They literally have blood on their hands - more than once. It's a record that would make the worst SEC football program or the Indiana basketball program under Kelvin Sampson ashamed. Our flagship program (basketball) looks like the Naval Academy by comparison, but ND wannabee Chico rips us while extolling their virtues. No secret why. He loves form over substance, something Notre Dame encourages in spades.
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on September 10, 2014, 05:43:26 AM
For the record, I already like this guy better than Larry Williams if only because we haven't yet heard where his kids go to college. Anybody will be an upgrade over that buffoon.
Uh oh...honeymoon's over: ND '09; Ball State '12; ND '14. It was in the press release (which was quoted in the first post).
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on September 10, 2014, 12:05:28 AM
No one said LW was some kind of stud AD. What I object to is that he did his job and tried to contain someone that needed to be reminded about a few things, and for that the pant pissers here got upset. In the end, he was exactly correct in his concerns. But, in this world there is always a school somewhere that will hire a coach if they win enough and look past some things, but for some people like Lenny that is proof of something....I don't know what, but he seems to like it. I'd remind him that Pat Kennedy got hired multiple places...Bruce Pearl...Todd Bozeman...Quin Snyder...Larry Eustachy...Tim Floyd....just to name a few. Just win baby. All it takes is one school....especially one with one NCAA berth in 20+ years.
I choose to direct my outrage at different oppressive systems. Fake pro bball is one I can sit back and enjoy despite the lack of purity under the covers. I mean no one has to choose to be an AD.
Quote from: barfolomew on September 09, 2014, 10:34:50 AM
Please tell me he's getting his Ph.D. in Sports Management or something, because then he would be the perfect guy to keep the Athletic Department on good footing.
Dr. Scholl's
Since the Scholl foot family is from Chicago, I thought there might be a connection. But I don't think there is because he is an Ohio native.
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on September 10, 2014, 05:43:26 AM
Chicos - you are such a troll, it's unbelievable. Isn't it you who CONSTANTLY brings up the Chicago Tribune's "coverage" of what was going on in our athletic department? Yet you hold ND's up as some city of gold? This despite a student killing herself after allegations of sexual assault against a football player were swept under the rug? This is the same athletic department who saw a student manager KILLED because he was asked to climb a scaffolding in conditions that were like something out of the Wizard of Oz?
How has coverage of their athletic department been? This is not to mention some academic issues, which I don't really think are all that bad, or the fact that they gave fat, boorish and Caucasian Charlie White a helluva a lot more leeway and money than they did Tyrone Willingham.
Are you telling me you don't remember any of this? That it wasn't covered in the media? Their athletic department has been a borderline disgrace for the past decade.
Can we be just like them?
For the record, I already like this guy better than Larry Williams if only because we haven't yet heard where his kids go to college. Anybody will be an upgrade over that buffoon.
Actually, we did hear where his kids went to college....two went to Notre Dame, one went to Ball State. Right there in the profile....you just had to read it.
Your criticism is fair. Point taken.
My comments were about the success of their sports, which we cannot compare to. Your point about some of their other issues....you are exactly right. You are wrong about Sampson, I drilled IU often about Sampson.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on September 10, 2014, 07:36:36 AM
Nailed it.
In the past few years the ND athletic department/football machine has stonewalled a sexual assault allegation that caused a young woman's death, ordered a student manager to walk the plank to his death, covered up the exceedingly odd (at best) behavior their star football player, overseen multiple academic cheating scandals and celebrated the return to the playing field of their most famous cheater. They literally have blood on their hands - more than once. It's a record that would make the worst SEC football program or the Indiana basketball program under Kelvin Sampson ashamed. Our flagship program (basketball) looks like the Naval Academy by comparison, but ND wannabee Chico rips us while extolling their virtues. No secret why. He loves form over substance, something Notre Dame encourages in spades.
Amen, Lenny. And No Dick gets away with with all this because they exercise their arrogant power frequently while the media laps them up. Just further examples of why ND should be blasted i stead of regaled.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on September 10, 2014, 09:18:08 AM
Actually, we did hear where his kids went to college....two went to Notre Dame, one went to Ball State. Right there in the profile....you just had to read it.
Your criticism is fair. Point taken.
My comments were about the success of their sports, which we cannot compare to. Your point about some of their other issues....you are exactly right.
So you want us to hire guys as ADs who learned do it the "ND way", which turns out to be "Just win, baby", but you object to coaches who (you think) feel that way also. Priceless.
Quote from: Texas Western on September 09, 2014, 07:30:39 PM
Agreed. ND only hates schools it is envious of. They believe they are far superior to MU and feel we are lucky to even be able to schedule a game with them.
Another example of ND arrogance. They hate all schools except the pigeons they schedule to pad their record.
Quote from: real chili 83 on September 09, 2014, 10:22:50 PM
Long day on the road in Denver. Then I get to read this BS.... ;)
Lets not kiss his ring because he's a Domer. His poop smells too. Remember, he comes from the athletic department that has botched several sexual assaults in a HUGE way, the Manti whatever fiasco (god, they looked liked idiots covering for that moron), and the recent cheating scandal.
Dick Rosenthal is the guy who brought all the money to ND with TV deals back in the 80's. He was a neighbor, and a good guy. He also gave that slobbering idiot, Lou Holtz. a pass after Holtz had his prints all over a scandal from his days at Minnesota.
Yes, ND's poop does stink.
BS, I'll be on campus in a couple of weeks. PM me if you want to go for bowl of chili. We can talk dirty ankles and stuff
That is 80% of their arrogance problem. They actually believe that their poop does not stink, but should be marketed to NBC.
It would appear we are all in agreement about chicos, smh
One thing that no one mentioned is the fact that he's very familiar with the Big East. He's worked with 7 out of the 10 schools and I'm sure, being an Indiana guy, he knows people at Butler. Notre Dame was part of the Big East the majority of time he was there so having those relationships can only help.
I'm a fan of this hire.
Obviously ND has made huge mis-steps with regards to its athletic department. They are hardly perfect. However if you look at what Scholl did there, it was easy to see why MU was attracted to him. He oversaw a great deal of their revenue generation efforts. (In fact, LW might have actually worked for Scholl since both oversaw licensing at one point.)
Only time will tell if this was a good hire, but he has a lot more experience, and more varied experience than LW had.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on September 10, 2014, 10:17:16 AM
Obviously ND has made huge mis-steps with regards to its athletic department. They are hardly perfect. However if you look at what Scholl did there, it was easy to see why MU was attracted to him. He oversaw a great deal of their revenue generation efforts. (In fact, LW might have actually worked for Scholl since both oversaw licensing at one point.)
Only time will tell if this was a good hire, but he has a lot more experience, and more varied experience than LW had.
I'm not opposed to the hire, the guy may be terrific. I hope he is. I just laugh at the concept that having an ND background somehow puts him on a higher ethical plane than we who are not worthy. Total hogwash.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on September 10, 2014, 10:46:39 AM
I'm not opposed to the hire, the guy may be terrific. I hope he is. I just laugh at the concept that having an ND background somehow puts him on a higher ethical plane than we who are not worthy. Total hogwash.
Yeah well that's Chicos. He tends to like the entrenched establishment while never acknowledging the mistakes the establishment has made. Whether its the Goodell issue...the Redskins issue...Notre Dame...his love of the 1950s...whatever.
Hopefully his connections with is alma mater would mean he can get ND back on our schedule. That would be very nice.
Quote from: brandx on September 09, 2014, 07:17:06 PM
ND hates Michigan and USC. MU isn't quite on that level of hate.
Back when BS was a student at ND, we were the best Catholic basketball program in the country.
Quote from: Heavy Gear on September 10, 2014, 11:16:44 AM
Back when BS was a student at ND, we were the best Catholic basketball program in the country.
He opened his press conference by naming Al, Chones, Meminger, Lee, Ellis, etc and that he's seen them all in person and that him and Majeous have Ball St. ties. He remembers them well and knows the history of our program.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on September 10, 2014, 11:01:38 AM
Yeah well that's Chicos. He tends to like the entrenched establishment while never acknowledging the mistakes the establishment has made. Whether its the Goodell issue...the Redskins issue...Notre Dame...his love of the 1950s...whatever.
C'mon, Sultan--the 50's was a good decade. Leave it to Beaver with Eddie Haskell was great. And who can ever forget the cold war and bomb shelters. And Elvis---and that devil worshipping rock and roll music.
And that all time classic, "In the Still of the Night" Don't ever sell the 50's short. Unless this is just a veiled slam to "old guys" which is starting to become more prevalent on Scoop. Everybody knows that the internet is only cool to use if you are under 35.
Quote from: Heavy Gear on September 10, 2014, 11:14:35 AM
Hopefully his connections with is Alma mater means he can get ND back on our schedule. That would be very nice.
He's going to have to convince Mike Brey.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on September 10, 2014, 09:29:36 AM
So you want us to hire guys as ADs who learned do it the "ND way", which turns out to be "Just win, baby", but you object to coaches who (you think) feel that way also. Priceless.
I'm happy to fall on my sword twice if you wish.
Like I said, PRN makes good points. My comments yesterday were about the success of their athletic programs, the fact that they have high academic standards but still succeed. PRN's points are well taken as are yours, as it relates to the other conduct.
Quote from: willie warrior on September 10, 2014, 09:34:26 AM
That is 80% of their arrogance problem. They actually believe that their poop does not stink, but should be marketed to NBC.
How is that any different than how MU fans treat UWM? Or UNC fans treat NC State? So on and so forth. That's just the nature of fandom. When I was at MU, it was the Catholic safety school and most everyone that applied to ND was rejected, so I always took that as part of the bitterness people had toward ND....that and Digger, the fact that they have owned us in the overall series, plus some very good games that have been epic. But I don't see their actions any different than any other fan bases. Ask a UWM fan about MU, and they will say rich, spoiled, arrogant fan base.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on September 10, 2014, 10:46:39 AM
I'm not opposed to the hire, the guy may be terrific. I hope he is. I just laugh at the concept that having an ND background somehow puts him on a higher ethical plane than we who are not worthy. Total hogwash.
Doesn't put them at a higher ethical plane, but it does show you can have success in your programs (not just football and basketball) with high academic standards.
They have an outstanding athletic program, better than most, and they do it (for the most part) better than most in terms of academics, etc. Are their issues, of course. And no doubt that ND haters can't wait to jump on them, just as Duke or Stanford haters do the same thing, etc.
Quote from: willie warrior on September 10, 2014, 09:31:51 AM
Another example of ND arrogance. They hate all schools except the pigeons they schedule to pad their record.
I don't follow ND football to the level of the diehards, but I'm not sure I would mock their schedule
When you schedule Stanford, USC, Michigan, Florida State, Louisville, Arizona State and Navy (yes, Navy is pretty good this year), along with Northwestern and Purdue (both teams down this year, but they are Big Ten teams), they get to have a Rice on their schedule.
Quote from: willie warrior on September 10, 2014, 12:03:07 PM
Everybody knows that the internet is only cool to use if you are under 35.
LOL....I hope not, as my new job would definitely not be a good fit then.
This thread is going places...
Some great quotes on Scholl here:
http://www.thestarpress.com/story/sports/college/ball-state/2014/09/09/ball-state-ad-accepts-new-position-at-marquette/15330559/
"Sad to see him go," said Ball State football coach Pete Lembo, adding it was the natural progression for a good administrator. "I would much rather be around a difference maker for 2-3 see years and see them move on to bigger and better things than to have never been around them at all," Lembo said.
"I'm thrilled for Bill and his family," Sallee said. "This opportunity at Marquette is a great fit for him and I know he will knock their socks off up in Milwaukee! When you've been in the business as long as I have, you learn how important great leadership is. Bill personifies exactly that. There is no doubt we will miss him greatly, but he has impacted our department deeply and set us all up for a tremendous amount of success. I wish him nothing but the best. Personally, I will always be thankful that he brought me to Ball State. My family and I are blessed to be Cardinals!"
Kudos to Chicos for admitting a bit of a double standard. I think he didn't care for the Buzz administration and was pointing out the university was bending its standards for somebody he didn't think was up to snuff.
I want to go on record as liking this hire, by the way. Also, talk to any Domer who was around during the McGuire era. Almost off of them loved the Marquette rivalry
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on September 10, 2014, 01:09:52 PM
How is that any different than how MU fans treat UWM? Or UNC fans treat NC State? So on and so forth. That's just the nature of fandom. When I was at MU, it was the Catholic safety school and most everyone that applied to ND was rejected, so I always took that as part of the bitterness people had toward ND....that and Digger, the fact that they have owned us in the overall series, plus some very good games that have been epic. But I don't see their actions any different than any other fan bases. Ask a UWM fan about MU, and they will say rich, spoiled, arrogant fan base.
Chicos--you of all people should realize that ND fans and ND itself smack of arrogance more than any other school. If you do not realize that, then you definitely live a sheltered sport life. There is no comparison to how MU fans treat UWM and ND arrogance.
Quote from: willie warrior on September 10, 2014, 04:37:54 PM
Chicos--you of all people should realize that ND fans and ND itself smack of arrogance more than any other school. If you do not realize that, then you definitely live a sheltered sport life. There is no comparison to how MU fans treat UWM and ND arrogance.
Honestly, I had a ND intern last year who was terrific. The CFO at my previous gig, a ND grad and very well heeled, and one of the nicest, down to earth people I have ever met. Always asking about MU. Met with a ND alum running 120Sports in Chicago a few weeks ago, good guy. Three of my vendors ND grads running the show, good peeps. Quite frankly, they're more interested in pounding on Michigan or USC then MU, and see us more in the same Catholic basketball bubble fro that perspective.
We all have our different experiences, but let's not pretend that other fan groups don't feel the same way about MU that some of you do about ND. For the record, I used to feel the same way and I no longer do. Getting older I suppose. Hating just shortens lifespan.
For what it is worth one of my friends was a manager for ND football back in the day. He just sent a note raving about Bill and what a great person he is. He didn't have to do that and It does speak highly for Bill that he did.
Wonder if Brey ever got rid of that neck hickey?
Quote from: WarriorFan on September 10, 2014, 03:27:01 AM
Bill Cords did fine with zero intellectual capacity... why change?
Somebody email Cords this. Bet he'd get a kick out of it.