Wisconsin lucks out by playing the #1 seed that has the least depth. Arizona might be out of gas come the 2nd half as they only play 6 guys. The Vadgers have had a lucky run playing 2 home games, and a Baylor team that they matched up very well against. Now they get a fatigued #1 seed. My guess is AZ is going to be -1 or -2 for the spread. I do not want to deal with a Vadger win, especially when we don't have a coach.
Sigh.
Hey Deane! Wanna deal me a shoe of blackjack? Your break is just about over
Won't happen... Becky will not win and I see the spread coming out at around Az -3 or so
Quote from: bobnoxious on March 27, 2014, 11:56:05 PM
Hey Deane! Wanna deal me a shoe of blackjack? Your break is just about over
I never take my seatbelt off while driving .....
That could explain your ridiculously low car insurance rates
Zona wins by 8 and Bo retires, i know its wishful thinking but we are due for a break
Quote from: T.V. Diener 34 on March 27, 2014, 11:56:42 PM
Won't happen... Becky will not win and I see the spread coming out at around Az -3 or so
AZ -1.5 according to Parrish.
Quote from: bobnoxious on March 28, 2014, 12:02:31 AM
Zona wins by 8 and Bo retires, i know its wishful thinking but we are due for a break
Great things come to those who wait. Or as the degenerate gambler who's lost 10 bets in a row would say........." we're due. "
Close to a home game for AZ, which could make the difference.
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on March 27, 2014, 11:52:13 PM
Wisconsin lucks out by playing the #1 seed that has the least depth. Arizona might be out of gas come the 2nd half as they only play 6 guys. The Vadgers have had a lucky run playing 2 home games, and a Baylor team that they matched up very well against. Now they get a fatigued #1 seed. My guess is AZ is going to be -1 or -2 for the spread. I do not want to deal with a Vadger win, especially when we don't have a coach.
These are kids - they play for hours on end on the playground. And are you saying every team that had 2 "home games" is lucky.
They are where they're at because of talent and coaching. As I said in another thread, if Decker stays, they will be a top 3 pre-season team.
There is not one position that we were better than UW - from coach on down. Our job is to get better.
Quote from: mechaghidorah on March 28, 2014, 12:06:46 AM
Close to a home game for AZ, which could make the difference.
It will be a home game for Zona. They have thousands of alums in So Cal and the Tucson faithfull will make the drive. Look how San Diego was last Saturday, all Zona fans.
U of A is going to the Final Four.
Quote from: brandx on March 28, 2014, 12:11:46 AM
These are kids - they play for hours on end on the playground. And are you saying every team that had 2 "home games" is lucky.
They are where they're at because of talent and coaching. As I said in another thread, if Decker stays, they will be a top 3 pre-season team.
There is not one position that we were better than UW - from coach on down. Our job is to get better.
My point is that the Vadgers got lucky based on the seedings and matchups in the tournament. Not every 2 seed got 2 home games. In fact, you could argue that no team received the home court advantage that the Vadgers did. 90% of the sold out crowd were Bucky fans. People and reporters at the game against Oregon said they had never heard the Bradley Center that loud. It is luck to be able to play in a venue so close to home with that much of a crowd advantage. I guarantee it won't happen again.
I have a strong feeling Wisconsin wins a close game. If the game was played in Pasadena I would take Arizona. ;)
It's setup for them, the easiest bracket, played in Milwaukee. Yeah, it will be a home game for Arizona, but nothing like what they face in the Big Ten on the road. Tonight, SDSU fans had the bigger crowd. Many of the locals going hate Arizona because they are USC and UCLA fans. It will be an Arizona crowd, but not to the extent Wisconsin had in Milwaukee or what a typical Big Ten road game is like.
Just seems like their year.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 28, 2014, 12:32:08 AM
Just seems like their year.
Ugh. Feel the same way. Hope I'm wrong.
Arizona quickly moved to -3.
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on March 27, 2014, 11:52:13 PM
Wisconsin lucks out by playing the #1 seed that has the least depth. Arizona might be out of gas come the 2nd half as they only play 6 guys. The Vadgers have had a lucky run playing 2 home games, and a Baylor team that they matched up very well against. Now they get a fatigued #1 seed. My guess is AZ is going to be -1 or -2 for the spread. I do not want to deal with a Vadger win, especially when we don't have a coach.
As if we didn't luck out with so many close wins down the stretch last year to get to the Elite Eight (only to get embarrassed by Syracuse). Seriously, what is with this board's obsession to tear down Wisky any chance you get? I despise in-state rivalries, because they turn neighbors and otherwise good friends into bitter people.
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on March 27, 2014, 11:52:13 PM
Wisconsin lucks out by playing the #1 seed that has the least depth. Arizona might be out of gas come the 2nd half as they only play 6 guys. The Vadgers have had a lucky run playing 2 home games, and a Baylor team that they matched up very well against. Now they get a fatigued #1 seed. My guess is AZ is going to be -1 or -2 for the spread. I do not want to deal with a Vadger win, especially when we don't have a coach.
This is crazy. Are you really that big of a UW hater that you have to find a way to disparage a Bucky win before it even happens?
The Badgers are a very good team this year. They are extremely skilled, athletic enough to compete with most teams, and very well coached. They played themselves into a position to get "home games" in the tourney and they have earned every win so far. Saying they matched up very well against Baylor is hindsight at its finest. Many thought Baylor would give them a tough game, but UW executed almost flawlessly against their zone. Their coaches and players deserve at least some credit for that win.
UW is in the elite 8 because they are a really good team. Deal with it. How would we have responded if Badger fans tried to rationalize our elite 8 run last year as merely luck? One could easily make that argument, btw.
UW could definitely beat AZ this weekend and if they do, it won't be because of luck.
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on March 28, 2014, 12:26:10 AM
My point is that the Vadgers got lucky based on the seedings and matchups in the tournament. Not every 2 seed got 2 home games. In fact, you could argue that no team received the home court advantage that the Vadgers did. 90% of the sold out crowd were Bucky fans. People and reporters at the game against Oregon said they had never heard the Bradley Center that loud. It is luck to be able to play in a venue so close to home with that much of a crowd advantage. I guarantee it won't happen again.
Kudos to them for being able to drum up so many rabid fans for the games. They have been one of the more impressive teams this year, so they earned it. If they didn't earn it through the course of the season, that would be one thing.
Quote from: MUSF on March 28, 2014, 12:50:55 AM
How would we have responded if Badger fans tried to rationalize our elite 8 run last year as merely luck?
I really couldn't have cared less what they had to say.
Quote from: statnik on March 28, 2014, 12:50:46 AM
As if we didn't luck out with so many close wins down the stretch last year to get to the Elite Eight (only to get embarrassed by Syracuse). Seriously, what is with this board's obsession to tear down Wisky any chance you get? I despise in-state rivalries, because they turn neighbors and otherwise good friends into bitter people.
I tear down their fans, especially the UW-other than madison crew. I try not to tear down their team because there isn't much to tear down, quite frankly. Their fans are mostly dinks, they are still in the top 10 all times in major NCAA infractions, I find them to be some of the most hypocritical people I have ever met....but they have a good basketball team and an angry coach.
They go to the Final Four
Quote from: MUSF on March 28, 2014, 12:50:55 AM
This is crazy. Are you really that big of a UW hater that you have to find a way to disparage a Bucky win before it even happens?
The Badgers are a very good team this year. They are extremely skilled, athletic enough to compete with most teams, and very well coached. They played themselves into a position to get "home games" in the tourney and they have earned every win so far. Saying they matched up very well against Baylor is hindsight at its finest. Many thought Baylor would give them a tough game, but UW executed almost flawlessly against their zone. Their coaches and players deserve at least some credit for that win.
UW is in the elite 8 because they are a really good team. Deal with it. How would we have responded if Badger fans tried to rationalize our elite 8 run last year as merely luck? One could easily make that argument, btw.
UW could definitely beat AZ this weekend and if they do, it won't be because of luck.
Arguably, could be even better next year
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 28, 2014, 01:02:38 AM
Arguably, could be even better next year
They will be better next year.
Koenig (sp?) might be better than Jackson, Nigel Hayes can be a beast, Kaminsky is a beast, and Dekker has All-American potential.
Who do they lose? Gasser and Brust? Not huge losses, IMO.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 28, 2014, 12:32:08 AM
I have a strong feeling Wisconsin wins a close game. If the game was played in Pasadena I would take Arizona. ;)
It's setup for them, the easiest bracket, played in Milwaukee. Yeah, it will be a home game for Arizona, but nothing like what they face in the Big Ten on the road. Tonight, SDSU fans had the bigger crowd. Many of the locals going hate Arizona because they are USC and UCLA fans. It will be an Arizona crowd, but not to the extent Wisconsin had in Milwaukee or what a typical Big Ten road game is like.
Just seems like their year.
We shall see. My son was at the game and said Zona fans were buying the Baylor fans tickets in droves after they lost. Big Zona crowd and big Zona win. Book it.
Quote from: MUSF on March 28, 2014, 12:50:55 AM
This is crazy. Are you really that big of a UW hater that you have to find a way to disparage a Bucky win before it even happens?
The Badgers are a very good team this year. They are extremely skilled, athletic enough to compete with most teams, and very well coached. They played themselves into a position to get "home games" in the tourney and they have earned every win so far. Saying they matched up very well against Baylor is hindsight at its finest. Many thought Baylor would give them a tough game, but UW executed almost flawlessly against their zone. Their coaches and players deserve at least some credit for that win.
UW is in the elite 8 because they are a really good team. Deal with it. How would we have responded if Badger fans tried to rationalize our elite 8 run last year as merely luck? One could easily make that argument, btw.
UW could definitely beat AZ this weekend and if they do, it won't be because of luck.
Arrrrrrrgh..... 'tis a sensitive lad. Perhaps ye need a few months on the ocean to make ye a man. Put down ye peppermint martini and have some whiskey.
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on March 28, 2014, 01:14:39 AM
Arrrrrrrgh..... 'tis a sensitive lad. Perhaps ye need a few months on the ocean to make ye a man. Put down ye peppermint martini and have some whiskey.
WTF???
Wait, there's a guy on our board that talk's like a pirate?
Quote from: 79Warrior on March 28, 2014, 01:10:57 AM
We shall see. My son was at the game and said Zona fans were buying the Baylor fans tickets in droves after they lost. Big Zona crowd and big Zona win. Book it.
Too much booking and done deals this week. ;D
They just might go all the way.
Quote from: MUSF on March 28, 2014, 01:09:55 AM
Who do they lose? Gasser and Brust? Not huge losses, IMO.
Gasser is only a junior. Dekker making a jump to the NBA would be the biggest loss, but they still have an extremely talented and deep roster.
Quote from: Havoc@MU on March 28, 2014, 08:31:55 AM
Gasser is only a junior. Dekker making a jump to the NBA would be the biggest loss, but they still have an extremely talented and deep roster.
Kaminsky is better than dekker right now. And will continue to get better IMO.
Dekker would be a first round pick anywhere else. He's got the shackles on in that system, and it will kill his draft stock.
Sam is better now than Hayward was when he left Butler. What Bo is doing to that kid is criminal.
Quote from: bobnoxious on March 28, 2014, 12:02:31 AM
Zona wins by 8 and Bo retires, i know its wishful thinking but we are due for a break
And Wisconsin hires Shaka to replace Bo.
Quote from: MUfan12 on March 28, 2014, 08:36:58 AM
Dekker would be a first round pick anywhere else. He's got the shackles on in that system, and it will kill his draft stock.
Sam is better now than Hayward was when he left Butler. What Bo is doing to that kid is criminal.
Teaching him how to play the game is criminal? Letting him know playing ball AAU style won't get him anywhere is criminal.
The roadside of the NBA is littered with guys with lots of talent who don't know how to play the game.
Quote from: MUSF on March 28, 2014, 01:09:55 AM
They will be better next year.
Koenig (sp?) might be better than Jackson, Nigel Hayes can be a beast, Kaminsky is a beast, and Dekker has All-American potential.
Who do they lose? Gasser and Brust? Not huge losses, IMO.
They lose Brust, period. They could very well be picked to win the B1G next year and will start the season ranked very high.
Quote from: StCroix64 on March 28, 2014, 08:55:36 AM
They lose Brust, period. They could very well be picked to win the B1G next year and will start the season ranked very high.
Wouldn't be surprised to see UW top 5 in the preseason poll.
Quote from: mechaghidorah on March 28, 2014, 09:04:09 AM
Wouldn't be surprised to see UW top 5 in the preseason poll.
I seem to remember another team in Wisconsin that was supposed to be real go this season....
Arizona will win, easily
I don't know what you guys are talking about Dekker is a first round pick. Go check out every single mock draft.
They lose guys... but it is what we have always said about Bo Ryan... Woe to us if he ever gets some good recruits.
He did, and look what happened.
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 28, 2014, 09:13:22 AM
I don't know what you guys are talking about Dekker is a first round pick. Go check out every single mock draft.
Totally agree with this. He hasn't really had a great year. I often thought to myself that he needs to play better, more to his ability level, but he has looked real good recently - he definitely has an NBA game. Will be a better pro than college player.
If I we advising him, I'd tell him to declare and go get that money. I don't care of he'd bea high first rounder or not, he has a bright NBA future, and another year in college isn't likely to change that.
Quote from: NavinRJohnson on March 28, 2014, 09:22:53 AM
Totally agree with this. He hasn't really had a great year. I often thought to myself that he needs to play better, more to his ability level, but he has looked real good recently - he definitely has an NBA game. Will be a better pro than college player.
If I we advising him, I'd tell him to declare and go get that money. I don't care of he'd be a high first rounder or not, he has a bright NBA future, and another year in college isn't likely to change that.
BUT BO HAS TO SHOW HIM THE RIGHT WAY TO PLAY!
You're right... some guys are better suited for the pro game. Look at Buycks, for instance. Always thought he'd be better in a more open game. Dekker is the same way. Very skilled, and a pretty good athlete. Could be great in a more open system where he can get out in transition more.
Quote from: MUfan12 on March 28, 2014, 09:37:06 AM
BUT BO HAS TO SHOW HIM THE RIGHT WAY TO PLAY!
You're right... some guys are better suited for the pro game. Look at Buycks, for instance. Always thought he'd be better in a more open game. Dekker is the same way. Very skilled, and a pretty good athlete. Could be great in a more open system where he can get out in transition more.
I struggle to see how Dekker has made any big strides in his game since arriving at UW.
First thing that came to my mind when seeing this picture....
(http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/blogs/Aaron-Rodgers-BoRyan.370.png)
(http://blogs.ocweekly.com/navelgazing/Oops-I-Crapped-My-Pants_square.jpg)
I'd take that coach who doesn't know how to handle Dekker, right now.
Quote from: 79Warrior on March 28, 2014, 12:11:55 AM
It will be a home game for Zona. They have thousands of alums in So Cal and the Tucson faithfull will make the drive. Look how San Diego was last Saturday, all Zona fans.
U of A is going to the Final Four.
I wouldn't be so sure about that. If you haven't noticed, Wisconsin travels extremely well. There were 10 Wisconsin fans to every Baylor fan last night.
Quote from: vRossman on March 28, 2014, 09:55:12 AM
I wouldn't be so sure about that. If you haven't noticed, Wisconsin travels extremely well. There were 10 Wisconsin fans to every Baylor fan last night.
I thought most of the folks wearing red were there for AZ
Quote from: MUSF on March 28, 2014, 01:21:49 AM
WTF???
Wait, there's a guy on our board that talk's like a pirate?
Except pirates drink rum, not whiskey. I say he's an impostor.
2014
Wisconsin = good at basketball
Marquette = not so much
Wisconsin = has a coach
Marquette = not so much
The definition of a bad year?
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 28, 2014, 12:32:08 AM
I have a strong feeling Wisconsin wins a close game. If the game was played in Pasadena I would take Arizona. ;)
Sometimes, I'm just damn fucking good
Quote from: leever on March 28, 2014, 02:15:40 PM
2014
Wisconsin = good at basketball
Marquette = not so much
Wisconsin = has a coach
Marquette = not so much
The definition of a bad year?
Respect the Process.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 29, 2014, 10:22:34 PM
Sometimes, I'm just damn unnatural carnal knowledgeing good
::)Don't tear your rotator cuff
Quote from: BenCat12 on March 29, 2014, 10:23:58 PM
::)Don't tear your rotator cuff
Labrum already torn....Zona looked ripe for the pickings.
Congrats Badgers! Great game, great coaching.
Great game. Good luck in the final four badgers. Rooting for my home state badgers.
Charge foul call ended the game, should have been a no call. But that's the way the ball bounces. Whatever Frank K. did
last year during the offseason made him a elite player at his size! Congrats!
Anyone think Kaminsky tests the waters in the draft after their run this year?
Quote from: Jamil_toMU10 on March 29, 2014, 10:30:49 PM
Anyone think Kaminsky tests the waters in the draft after their run this year?
No way!!!
Does Bucky have any McD AAs?
Hate the badgers but good for them. They are a solid team. Amazing what a team can accomplish when they put 5 players on the floor that can dribble, pass, and shoot. How many people did marquette start this year that could do all three? One...maybe ?
Quote from: Jamil_toMU10 on March 29, 2014, 10:30:49 PM
Anyone think Kaminsky tests the waters in the draft after their run this year?
No. Mitch McGary is 2X the player Kaminsky is at the NBA level...note, I didn't say college level. Frank the Tank should enjoy another year of college and bask with the coeds because his next few months will be the greatest months of his life.
If MU wasn't so frickin' terrible this season, and if our coach wasn't such a fool, I might actually be excited for UW. As it is, I would prefer the UW season would end quickly with embarrassment. It further proves how inferior Buzz Williams is in comparison to the top college coaches.
Quote from: Warrior of Law on March 29, 2014, 10:37:01 PM
If MU wasn't so frickin' terrible this season, and if our coach wasn't such a fool, I might actually be excited for UW. As it is, I would prefer the UW season would end quickly with embarrassment. It further proves how inferior Buzz Williams is in comparison to the top college coaches.
He's the greatest coach we've had since Al McGuire.....
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 29, 2014, 10:33:44 PM
No. Mitch McGary is 2X the player Kaminsky is at the NBA level...note, I didn't say college level. Frank the Tank should enjoy another year of college and bask with the coeds because his next few months will be the greatest months of his life.
I don't think he will consider leaving, but Kaminsky should have a long NBA career after he graduates next year. His game is perfect for the NBA game; pick and pop or pick and roll. McGary is more athletic, but doesn't have nearly the range Kaminsky does. Having watched him play quite a bit in high school, he has come such a long way. Always could shoot, but the footwork and inside game has gotten so much better. Impressive.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 29, 2014, 10:33:44 PM
No. Mitch McGary is 2X the player Kaminsky is at the NBA level...note, I didn't say college level. Frank the Tank should enjoy another year of college and bask with the coeds because his next few months will be the greatest months of his life.
I think Kaminsky could take McGary now. Injuries aside, Frank has really progressed. I hate giving too much credit to the Badgers and their guys, but I can't deny how impressed I am with Kaminsky's game. He's the reason they have gotten so far. And whether or not he makes a Vander decision, he would be drafted this year top 40 in my opinion.
Quote from: Jamil_toMU10 on March 29, 2014, 10:42:20 PM
I think Kaminsky could take McGary now. Injuries aside, Frank has really progressed. I hate giving too much credit to the Badgers and their guys, but I can't deny how impressed I am with Kaminsky's game. He's the reason they have gotten so far. And whether or not he makes a Vander decision, he would be drafted this year top 40 in my opinion.
Not a single mock draft agrees with you. Where does he play? 5? Good luck... 4? His doors get blown off.
Pump the brakes on Frank at the next level. After four years he could have a nice Brad Miller career.
Arizona fans not taking tonight's loss too well,,,
http://deadspin.com/arizona-loses-to-wisconsin-students-and-riot-police-fa-1554640886?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow (http://deadspin.com/arizona-loses-to-wisconsin-students-and-riot-police-fa-1554640886?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow)