He was pushed out. He was here as long as we wanted him. The dude lost his job. Why kick him while he's down?
Our AD is in the process of signing one of three active coaches who have been to three consecutive final fours.
MU is better off for having had Buzz as our coach
Buzz is better off for us having bet on him
We'll move forward in even better shape with Howland.
I don't understand these things people are making up to be angry about. It's all good news.
Quote from: sixstrings03 on March 23, 2014, 12:22:39 PM
He was pushed out. He was here as long as we wanted him. The dude lost his job. Why kick him while he's down?
Our AD is in the process of signing one of three active coaches who have been to three consecutive final fours.
MU is better off for having had Buzz as our coach
Buzz is better off for us having bet on him
We'll move forward in even better shape with Howland.
I don't understand these things people are making up to be angry about. It's all good news.
But why did we no longer want him?
The overarching reason seems to be that Buzz thought that he was Christ's brother. He was a prima donna. He wanted his ego stroked. Etc.
This clashes mightily with the image of "humility" "character revealed" blah blah blah. Fans thought Buzz was special. That he was above the fray.
Fans see that they were duped. It feels good to kick a phony when he's down, especially when he's been doing leap frogs over you and finally fell flat on his face.
The question you have to ask yourself is why. What did Buzz do to put himself in that predicament.
Yeah I really get the feeling he had worn out his welcome. Unfortunately, because I thought he had the potential to be a long-term legend here if some things played out slightly differently. Seems like it might work well for both parties in the end.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 23, 2014, 12:27:24 PM
The question you have to ask yourself is why. What did Buzz do to put himself in that predicament.
+1
I started a thread about an investigation that was shot down. Something (someone) tells me this idea is not completely dead.
Maybe the investigation was of Buzz and not the team.
Quote from: Eldon on March 23, 2014, 12:27:12 PM
But why did we no longer want him?
The overarching reason seems to be that Buzz thought that he was Christ's brother. He was a prima donna. He wanted his ego stroked. Etc.
This clashes mightily with the image of "humility" "character revealed" blah blah blah. Fans thought Buzz was special. That he was above the fray.
Fans see that they were duped. It feels good to kick a phony when he's down, especially when he's been doing leap frogs over you and finally fell flat on his face.
this is one of the made up reasons to be angry. Who was duped? When did he claim otherwise?
Take it up with MU if you're upset the relationship didn't work. I take this to mean MU wanted one direction for the program, Buzz wanted another, and neither caved. Thus: no more working together.
It doesn't mean one is right and one is wrong. Both will get a partner that better fits their goals.
"You can tell the size of a man by the size of things that bother him." – Adlai E. Stevenson
Don't invent things to be bothered about
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 23, 2014, 12:27:24 PM
The question you have to ask yourself is why. What did Buzz do to put himself in that predicament.
I do question that. When Cords and Fr. Wild returned, even if temporary, it would seem that the ego should have been soothed. Dude, you won, what the heck more did you want?
Quote from: Heisenberg on March 23, 2014, 12:30:10 PM
+1
I started a thread about an investigation that was shot down. Something (someone) tells me this idea is not completely dead.
Maybe the investigation was of Buzz and not the team.
its definitely a possibility. And if that's the case, then why not be happy that he's gone?
Quote from: Eldon on March 23, 2014, 12:27:12 PM
But why did we no longer want him?
The overarching reason seems to be that Buzz thought that he was Christ's brother. He was a prima donna. He wanted his ego stroked. Etc.
This clashes mightily with the image of "humility" "character revealed" blah blah blah. Fans thought Buzz was special. That he was above the fray.
Fans see that they were duped. It feels good to kick a phony when he's down, especially when he's been doing leap frogs over you and finally fell flat on his face.
Saw this posted somewhere else...think Scout board....someone likened it to the Brett Farve saga in Green Bay...the am I coming back or not game got old...and to an extent held the organization hostage...much like Buzz never killed the rumors the last 3 off seasons...I get the impression Cords/Wild saw that he wasn't totally committed long term...and felt better to be proactive...and move forward to a coach that definitely wanted to be at MU...and they and others in MU athletic leadership may have grown tired of the drama/prima donna tendencies. Marotta indicating how much love/attention Buzz needed to feel...reminiscent of Brett Farve.
Quote from: Ners on March 23, 2014, 12:32:37 PM
Saw this posted somewhere else...think Scout board....someone likened it to the Brett Farve saga in Green Bay...the am I coming back or not game got old...and to an extent held the organization hostage...much like Buzz never killed the rumors the last 3 off seasons...I get the impression Cords/Wild saw that he wasn't totally committed long term...and felt better to be proactive...and move forward to a coach that definitely wanted to be at MU...and they and others in MU athletic leadership may have grown tired of the drama/prima donna tendencies. Marotta indicating how much love/attention Buzz needed to feel...reminiscent of Brett Farve.
i bet this has a lot of truth to it
Quote from: sixstrings03 on March 23, 2014, 12:31:36 PM
this is one of the made up reasons to be angry. Who was duped? When did he claim otherwise?
Take it up with MU if you're upset the relationship didn't work. I take this to mean MU wanted one direction for the program, Buzz wanted another, and neither caved. Thus: no more working together.
It doesn't mean one is right and one is wrong. Both will get a partner that better fits their goals.
"You can tell the size of a man by the size of things that bother him." – Adlai E. Stevenson
Don't invent things to be bothered about
Honestly, I'm not really bothered. DJ Newbill's story always made me question Buzz.
What am I making up? Do you honestly disagree that Buzz didn't portray himself as a people person? Clearly DJ Newbill's family bought it. Then, when a stud recruit comes along, and Newbill is thrown to the trash. This is college bball, I get it. But Buzz put on the facade of actually caring.
Do you honestly believe that Buzz would write letters to people (30 per month, cf. PaintTouches) just because it made those people feel good? Come on, bro. Buzz is not Father Naus. Buzz wrote all those letters for himself. For
networking. For career advancement. To build allies, not friends.
Quote from: sixstrings03 on March 23, 2014, 12:35:23 PM
i bet this has a lot of truth to it
I think you might be right. Even for someone you like you can only bend over so many times to stroke their ego before you get worn out. Someone else posted the "dating the crazy hot chick" analogy. It's great when it starts, and then it wears you out. When it ends you wonder how you ever let it get to that point. Buzz always was a bit nutty. At first it was endearing. After a while...
The blame game is stupid and pointless.
Buzz no longer wanted to be at MU.
MU no longer wanted Buzz to be its coach.
No one was to "blame." They drifted apart.
Quote from: sixstrings03 on March 23, 2014, 12:22:39 PM
He was pushed out. He was here as long as we wanted him. The dude lost his job. Why kick him while he's down?
Our AD is in the process of signing one of three active coaches who have been to three consecutive final fours.
MU is better off for having had Buzz as our coach
Buzz is better off for us having bet on him
We'll move forward in even better shape with Howland.
I don't understand these things people are making up to be angry about. It's all good news.
Source? Or opinion. If he was pushed, why. Your opinion implies he was a great guy. Not buying it or he would not have been pushed out!
A mentor advised me that you might be able to squeeze your employer for a counteroffer once, maybe twice. But if you get piggish, they might just wish you luck with your future endeavors. My world is barely comparable to college basketball coaching, but this simple truth seems to play here.
Good luck to buzz in his new gig. Never enjoyed coaches shows as much before. I use some of his quotes in my work routinely. I appreciate what he did, but I'm ready to look forward.
Quote from: sixstrings03 on March 23, 2014, 12:22:39 PM
He was pushed out. He was here as long as we wanted him. The dude lost his job. Why kick him while he's down?
Our AD is in the process of signing one of three active coaches who have been to three consecutive final fours.
MU is better off for having had Buzz as our coach
Buzz is better off for us having bet on him
We'll move forward in even better shape with Howland.
I don't understand these things people are making up to be angry about. It's all good news.
I agree. I actually feel bad for Buzz. He did a LOT of good for Marquette and I hope everyone remember that. I wish him the best of luck with the move and his new job.
The spin that Buzz jilted us I think set the wrong tone at the onset. As things settle, people will understand this was a divorce, and like a lot of divorces it was about irreconcilable differences, it didn't happen overnight, everyone was partly to blame, and it wasn't pretty.
It is also worth reiterating that Buzz did NOT lie at any time. He was offered a new job and he took it. He coached Marquette for as long as they would have him. He left because "relationships changed." Again, there is no reason to kick Buzz on the way out the door. There may be an argument that he has as much to be angry about with Marquette as Marquette does with him.
Quote from: connie on March 23, 2014, 12:40:26 PM
I think you might be right. Even for someone you like you can only bend over so many times to stroke their ego before you get worn out. Someone else posted the "dating the crazy hot chick" analogy. It's great when it starts, and then it wears you out. When it ends you wonder how you ever let it get to that point. Buzz always was a bit nutty. At first it was endearing. After a while...
http://www.youtube.com/v/9NF5XU-k2Vk
Quote from: connie on March 23, 2014, 12:32:12 PM
I do question that. When Cords and Fr. Wild returned, even if temporary, it would seem that the ego should have been soothed. Dude, you won, what the heck more did you want?
Just his way in everything. When any Board member, booster, or fan became aware of a disagreement between he and LW, they will have sided with the coach who has won and has been here longer over the evil Domer. When the coach looks for help dictating his way past Cords and Wild, he has nobody in his corner. While I hate that we had to ask for help from those who have already done more than they should ever be asked, bravo to the Board for placing perhaps the only two people with the legitimacy to be allowed to navigate through what was going on.
Quote from: Avenue Commons on March 23, 2014, 01:29:42 PM
I agree. I actually feel bad for Buzz. He did a LOT of good for Marquette and I hope everyone remember that.
Buzz was paid extremely well to do that good. I don't wish him ill or wish him well. He was a cog that's being replaced. Nothing more.
Quote from: Avenue Commons on March 23, 2014, 01:29:42 PM
I agree. I actually feel bad for Buzz. He did a LOT of good for Marquette and I hope everyone remember that. I wish him the best of luck with the move and his new job.
The spin that Buzz jilted us I think set the wrong tone at the onset. As things settle, people will understand this was a divorce, and like a lot of divorces it was about irreconcilable differences, it didn't happen overnight, everyone was partly to blame, and it wasn't pretty.
It is also worth reiterating that Buzz did NOT lie at any time. He was offered a new job and he took it. He coached Marquette for as long as they would have him. He left because "relationships changed." Again, there is no reason to kick Buzz on the way out the door. There may be an argument that he has as much to be angry about with Marquette as Marquette does with him.
Pure "spin"
Quote from: Eldon on March 23, 2014, 12:37:37 PM
Do you honestly disagree that Buzz didn't portray himself as a people person? Clearly DJ Newbill's family bought it. Then, when a stud recruit comes along, and Newbill is thrown to the trash. This is college bball, I get it. But Buzz put on the facade of actually caring.
I agree Buzz portrayed himself as a people person. In my limited exchanges with him I found him to be that. I'm confused how the Newbill situation makes Buzz not a people person.
I'm not defending the Newbill thing, but I guess I don't know how that contradicts his being a people person.
I think that, in jobs like these, you are accountable to a lot of different stakeholders. You do the bet you can to align all of their interests together. It seems like with Newbill he failed to do that.
Quote from: Eldon on March 23, 2014, 12:37:37 PM
Do you honestly believe that Buzz would write letters to people (30 per month, cf. PaintTouches) just because it made those people feel good? Come on, bro. Buzz is not Father Naus. Buzz wrote all those letters for himself. For networking. For career advancement. To build allies, not friends.
Yes, you have tone a self-promoter in order to make it in college coaching, and Buzz is/was proficient at it. I'm saying how is being a good networker at odds with building meaningful relationships?
In my experience (limited) the people with a solid "network" that goes to bat for them are legit relationship builders. Networking gets a bad name as some transactional short-term manipulative thing.
Brings me to my final point: I don't understand how people feel manipulated. Of course Buzz was here because it benefitted him. What coach wouldn't? I think anyone here who is angered because they thought Buzz = Fr. Naus is really upset because they are stupid enough to think that.
Quote from: willie warrior on March 23, 2014, 12:47:58 PM
Source? Or opinion. If he was pushed, why. Your opinion implies he was a great guy. Not buying it or he would not have been pushed out!
No source, just in my opinion the facts don't match up with this being Buzz leaving on his own. He would have been more strategic to pick a solid next job. His brand equity was enough to be considered for top jobs. Va Tech was a "whats available now?" move.
Who in the world is a "great guy" or "bad guy"? I'm not saying he's perfect I'm not saying he's a douche. I'm saying it appears something happened that made MU want to part ways.
So if you received a poor performance review from your job, your response would be "So you don't think I'm a great guy?"
Six string, your acceptance of Buzz's actions sure seem different now vs the last guy. Lol
Quote from: willie warrior on March 23, 2014, 01:38:32 PM
Pure "spin"
no shades of grey for willie
are you a good guy who has never made a mistake or a bad guy who murders and lies constantly? since there's no third option..
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 23, 2014, 01:50:17 PM
Six string, your acceptance of Buzz's actions sure seem different now vs the last guy. Lol
which guy?
Quote from: sixstrings03 on March 23, 2014, 01:48:32 PM
No source, just in my opinion the facts don't match up with this being Buzz leaving on his own. He would have been more strategic to pick a solid next job. His brand equity was enough to be considered for top jobs. Va Tech was a "whats available now?" move.
Who in the world is a "great guy" or "bad guy"? I'm not saying he's perfect I'm not saying he's a douche. I'm saying it appears something happened that made MU want to part ways.
So if you received a poor performance review from your job, your response would be "So you don't think I'm a great guy?"
What top jobs are available right now?
USF? Wake? BC? South Florida?
For a guy who wanted out of Dodge ASAP, there weren't many options.
Quote from: Pakuni on March 23, 2014, 01:52:37 PM
What top jobs are available right now?
USF? Wake? BC? South Florida?
For a guy who wanted out of Dodge ASAP, there weren't many options.
More will open up this coming week (rumor is Okla St)
Quote from: willie warrior on March 23, 2014, 01:38:32 PM
Pure "spin"
How? Don't know how much more reasonable I could put it.
I do feel bad for Buzz and wish it didn't come to this. I'm not super thrilled with all the turmoil at MU at the high levels. I said it before and I'll say it again: The only winner in this is Virginia Tech.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 23, 2014, 01:50:17 PM
Six string, your acceptance of Buzz's actions sure seem different now vs the last guy. Lol
Seriously JD - Why do you continue on with this stuff?! Let it go already. Both are gone, both left with fans left angry...As has been said: There's no "good"byes...
For the record, I don't think Buzz handled this any better than did Crean...yet it seems in Crean's case there wasn't any smoldering rumors of Admin potentially not wanting him back..or not wanting to have a chance to match the offer he got from IU. From all accounts...MU didn't counter...which essentially says...so long..thanks.
Quote from: Ners on March 23, 2014, 01:55:29 PM
Seriously JD - Why do you continue on with this stuff?! Let it go already. Both are gone, both left with fans left angry...As has been said: There's no "good"byes...
For the record, I don't think Buzz handled this any better than did Crean...yet it seems in Crean's case there wasn't any smoldering rumors of Admin potentially not wanting him back..or not wanting to have a chance to match the offer he got from IU. From all accounts...MU didn't counter...which essentially says...so long..thanks.
I don't think Crean gave the administration any chance to counter. As I recall, he already accepted the IU job before Wild or Cottingham knew he was talking with them. That, I believe, was a big reason for some of the discontent. He wasn't upfront with the administration.
Quote from: Utile et Dulce on March 23, 2014, 01:38:24 PM
Buzz was paid extremely well to do that good. I don't wish him ill or wish him well. He was a cog that's being replaced. Nothing more.
That's a fair point. I just feel that three Sweet 16s, an Elite 8, and Wes, Jerel, DJO, Buycks, Jimmy, Jae, and Vander at least getting a shot at the NBA is a lot. I was scared when TC left. Buzz quelled a lot of those fears.
Quote from: Heisenberg on March 23, 2014, 01:54:15 PM
More will open up this coming week (rumor is Okla St)
There is a private school in North Carolina called Duke University that had a high seed and lost in the first round to 14 Seed Mercer. Maybe Duke's coach is on the hot seat and will be available?
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 23, 2014, 01:50:17 PM
Six string, your acceptance of Buzz's actions sure seem different now vs the last guy. Lol
I'd welcome you to peruse my postings. I don't care for Crean personally, but I've always said he did great stuff for MU, and did us the best favor of leaving, thus allowing Buzz to step up to HC.
Some folks in the mental health community might see this as paranoia. You may want to get that checked out.
Quote from: Pakuni on March 23, 2014, 01:57:58 PM
I don't think Crean gave the administration any chance to counter. As I recall, he already accepted the IU job before Wild or Cottingham knew he was talking with them. That, I believe, was a big reason for some of the discontent. He wasn't upfront with the administration.
And Crean didn't discuss it with his players first.
Quote from: Pakuni on March 23, 2014, 01:57:58 PM
I don't think Crean gave the administration any chance to counter. As I recall, he already accepted the IU job before Wild or Cottingham knew he was talking with them. That, I believe, was a big reason for some of the discontent. He wasn't upfront with the administration.
That was my recollection as well...but as I recall there was frustration on admin part that he didn't give MU a chance to counter/negotiate - implication being that they wanted to...whereas in this case with Buzz...it seems MU wasn't interested in doing so..
Quote from: Avenue Commons on March 23, 2014, 01:54:53 PM
The only winner in this is Virginia Tech.
Short term yes. We'll see how the long term works out with BW. They may have a different appetite for risk.
Quote from: Avenue Commons on March 23, 2014, 01:54:53 PM
How? Don't know how much more reasonable I could put it.
I do feel bad for Buzz and wish it didn't come to this. I'm not super thrilled with all the turmoil at MU at the high levels. I said it before and I'll say it again: The only winner in this is Virginia Tech.
Really? I honestly believe that they are the only loser in all of this. And I'm not just saying this because I'm biter or anything.
*Buzz gets millions for 7 years
*MU gets (hopefully) Howland
*VTech gets a coach who has to start from absolute scratch. If Buzz couldn't make the NIT with Gardner, Mayo, and Burton, what is he going to do at VT?
Time will tell, of course. But if I were a betting man, my money's on VT getting the short straw here.
Quote from: keefe on March 23, 2014, 02:13:48 PM
Short term yes. We'll see how the long term works out with BW. They may have a different appetite for risk.
Fair point. I should have qualified that VA Tech is the only winner right NOW.
We get Howland (probable) or Shaka Smart (unlikely) or Gregg Marshall (possible) and MU will come out ok.
Typical Divorce, both sides angry and throwing out comments of issues with other side, perceived slights, bruised ego's, past issues or fights resurfacing.....in the end the kids are the one's that will lose now and future.
Brent and family will be fine in the future
Marquette will be fine
Quote from: Avenue Commons on March 23, 2014, 02:05:15 PM
And Crean didn't discuss it with his players first.
It was rumored Buzz's Twitter background was changed to VT colors before his meeting with the players. Just sayin.
Quote from: Ners on March 23, 2014, 02:08:06 PM
That was my recollection as well...but as I recall there was frustration on admin part that he didn't give MU a chance to counter/negotiate - implication being that they wanted to...whereas in this case with Buzz...it seems MU wasn't interested in doing so..
Wild had no idea Crean was leaving. In fact, he was at a conference in D.C. when he got the call and he went ballistic when he heard the news.
Quote from: sixstrings03 on March 23, 2014, 01:50:56 PM
no shades of grey for willie
are you a good guy who has never made a mistake or a bad guy who murders and lies constantly? since there's no third option..
Oh so now it is he made a mistake. C'mon man! It is more than that to warrant getting pushed out/he saw the handwriting on the wall. Either way, he burned it out with this year's performance and decisions, and it was not just one mistake.
Quote from: willie warrior on March 23, 2014, 02:56:46 PM
Oh so now it is he made a mistake. C'mon man! It is more than that to warrant getting pushed out/he saw the handwriting on the wall. Either way, he burned it out with this year's performance and decisions, and it was not just one mistake.
what is your question? I'm happy to answer.
Quote from: sixstrings03 on March 23, 2014, 01:44:58 PM
I agree Buzz portrayed himself as a people person. In my limited exchanges with him I found him to be that. I'm confused how the Newbill situation makes Buzz not a people person.
I'm not defending the Newbill thing, but I guess I don't know how that contradicts his being a people person.
I think that, in jobs like these, you are accountable to a lot of different stakeholders. You do the bet you can to align all of their interests together. It seems like with Newbill he failed to do that.
Yes, you have tone a self-promoter in order to make it in college coaching, and Buzz is/was proficient at it. I'm saying how is being a good networker at odds with building meaningful relationships?
In my experience (limited) the people with a solid "network" that goes to bat for them are legit relationship builders. Networking gets a bad name as some transactional short-term manipulative thing.
Brings me to my final point: I don't understand how people feel manipulated. Of course Buzz was here because it benefitted him. What coach wouldn't? I think anyone here who is angered because they thought Buzz = Fr. Naus is really upset because they are stupid enough to think that.
Six, good, thought-out, reasonable responses.
I won't belabor the point, but suffice it to say that I can understand why some feel like they were duped.
Quote from: sixstrings03 on March 23, 2014, 12:22:39 PM
He was pushed out. He was here as long as we wanted him. The dude lost his job. Why kick him while he's down?
Our AD is in the process of signing one of three active coaches who have been to three consecutive final fours.
MU is better off for having had Buzz as our coach
Buzz is better off for us having bet on him
We'll move forward in even better shape with Howland.
I don't understand these things people are making up to be angry about. It's all good news.
Definition of "lie" does not just include false statements, it also includes acts to imply false impressions. To lead the MU faithful to believe all is well while constantly working back channels to find out what other offers would include leading to the perennial Buzz to ____ talk fits that definition of "lie" to me even though the statement you are referring to may not have been a false statement. Regardless, I agree with your other points and the folks who have the "it is what it is", "next man up" attitude. Love the fact we have Wild & Cords back to handle the situation again this time and hope they get a committed long term hire. They and we deserve it. Buzz has some great qualities and did some great things here and I am of the opinion there has to be some genuineness there that led to things like Buzz's Bunch (not just 100% self promotion). Having said that, I am sure the self promotion side of things was also part of the reason it was done. So, thanks Buzz for the good things you did for the program, hate to see you go, but trust the administration is doing what is best for the institution and hope current members of the team and recruits know that what Buzz said about the school when getting them to agree to come here is still all true and will remain true with our new coach. Go MU!
You get sick of the employee that is always threatening to leave or has offers. Its like OK...Have a great future.
Quote from: sixstrings03 on March 23, 2014, 03:18:43 PM
what is your question? I'm happy to answer.
No question. You imply that he was pushed/let go because of a simple mistake. More there than just that my man. But believe what you want to believe.
can we get these bozos off the website?
http://www.gomarquette.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/monarch_scott00.html
Quote from: mviale on March 23, 2014, 05:03:10 PM
can we get these bozos off the website?
http://www.gomarquette.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/monarch_scott00.html
Ugh, I've already seen enough pictures of the new Virgina Tech coach.
Quote from: willie warrior on March 23, 2014, 04:59:16 PM
No question. You imply that he was pushed/let go because of a simple mistake. More there than just that my man. But believe what you want to believe.
not what I was implying... What are you implying happened?
My point is MU is in awesome shape while buzz was at the helm.
I'm confused with the "see the truth, brother! It's all lies he's feeding us!" Vibe
Quote from: sixstrings03 on March 23, 2014, 05:27:21 PM
not what I was implying... What are you implying happened?
My point is MU is in awesome shape while buzz was at the helm.
I'm confused with the "see the truth, brother! It's all lies he's feeding us!" Vibe
Six, it's the only vibe Willie knows. Thousands of posts - all say the same thing.
Quote from: brandx on March 23, 2014, 05:34:06 PM
Six, it's the only vibe Willie knows. Thousands of posts - all say the same thing.
Meanwhile, BrandX says nothing.
Quote from: Ners on March 23, 2014, 01:55:29 PM
Seriously JD - Why do you continue on with this stuff?! Let it go already. Both are gone, both left with fans left angry...As has been said: There's no "good"byes...
For the record, I don't think Buzz handled this any better than did Crean...yet it seems in Crean's case there wasn't any smoldering rumors of Admin potentially not wanting him back..or not wanting to have a chance to match the offer he got from IU. From all accounts...MU didn't counter...which essentially says...so long..thanks.
Oh, I admit it, there's a bit of satisfaction....just takes a few words that I've been waiting to hear. Three individuals in particular, who have been absent the last few days, despite checking in every few hours. Rather humorous.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 23, 2014, 09:23:54 PM
Oh, I admit it, there's a bit of satisfaction....just takes a few words that I've been waiting to hear. Three individuals in particular, who have been absent the last few days, despite checking in every few hours. Rather humorous.
So were you confusing me with someone else or just sh1tting on everyone who might see the world different from you.
With Buzz moving on, you're aware that your Crean infatuation isn't even for our last coach... it's two coaches ago.
Who is the Chicos equivalent for Mike Deane? Still holding out bitterness for some reason?