Per Goodman and others on Twitter.
Sportcenter app too
We're screwed. Who all leaves Marquette now? Including freshmen and incoming recruits?
I just got the notice from the Score Center app. WTF?!
(Sigh) What.
Big demotion if true.
So much for "I'll be here as long as they'll have me."
They must be throwing stupid money at him. Or Buzz realizes that the new Big East is garbage. Or both.
Quote from: hdog1017 on March 21, 2014, 04:42:34 PM
They must be throwing stupid money at him. Or Buzz realizes that the new Big East is garbage. Or both.
New Big East has to be a huge factor
Wow. What a joke. Honestly cannot believe this.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/24495020/virginia-tech-targeting-marquettes-buzz-williams-to-be-next-coach
wow, crap and unnatural carnal knowledge...
So if he is anything like his mentor, the players should be finding out about right now
Now the members of this board can coach this team. Awesome!
"But the breakup of the Big East has changed the nature of the Marquette job, and the school is still without an AD, meaning Williams has no idea who his boss might be in a year. That uncertainty was enough to make Williams jump to Virginia Tech, sources told CBSSports.com."
Ners, your time has come. Good luck.
In the immortal words of Hawk Harrelson...You've gotta be blankin' me!
So much for "I'll stay as long as they'll have me"
Oh. My. God...
Character revealed indeed!
Had to check the calendar to make sure its not April ,1
Not sure I buy it yet.
Wow. Good luck, guy. Thanks for the string of success here. What else can you say? No sense in getting pissed. Upward and onward.
https://twitter.com/GoodmanESPN/status/447128136761614336
Buzz Williams left Marquette for a variety of reasons, sources told ESPN. One of the biggest was new league/new TV package.
Wow. I thought the upside of having such a poor season was we wouldn't have to go through the season of "Buzz to" rumors". Guess I was wrong.
I have no issue with a man making a decision to better his life, though its strange he would do it at such a salary reduction. There was always something about Buzz that didn't sit well with me, I didn't think he was genuine. I think it was comments such as "I'll stay as long as he'll have me". As time went on and I heard things about Buzz's bunch and his teams did so well, I thought perhaps I was just wrong.
Now I'm not sure what to think. Why would a man who has had such success and seemed prime to succeed in the future (despite the conference change) leave for what is not a definite upgrade? Does it reflect on him or is there something at Marquette that results in coaches not wanting to be here after a certain amount of time? Is his decision to leave entirely a reflection on Buzz or does it also indicate that there is something unique to Marquette that despite the investment in facilities and salary, results in successful coaches looking for the next opportunity?
Calhoun
I'm numb.
And still hoping it's false. Please let this be some sort of cruel joke.
Goodman reporting one of main reasons he left was because of TV package/new league.
Well then...
IU at least makes sense. Va Tech??? WTF??
It's a business. Anyone who took Buzz at his word for being here as long as they have me was crazy. I really liked Buzz and thought he was a great recruiter, but couldn't understand how the board thought he was so different than TC or any other coach,
Guess his shtick was...shtick
Maybe in the end we'll be better off.
Yes - we had very good years under Buzz, but this year was atrocious. It seemed to me that he was unwilling to change based on the personnel he had and that doesn't bode well for the future. A coach would cannot adapt is bound to die.
We have high expectations at MU. Va Tech has made the NCAA's twice in 25 years - the ball is low there and he'll probably sweat through less shirts with lowered pressure and expectations.
Seriously? For Va Tech?
unnatural carnal knowledge Buzz.
Quote from: windyplayer on March 21, 2014, 04:51:04 PM
Wow. Good luck, guy. Thanks for the string of success here. What else can you say? No sense in getting pissed. Upward and onward.
Disagree 100%. unnatural carnal knowledge him and the horse he rode in on. "I'll be here as long as long as they'll have me" my ass. I will make sure to actively cheer against him for the rest of his hopefully shitty coaching career. A little adversity and he runs for the hills. Character revealed indeed.
If this is true, please aim higher than Brian Wardle
Silver lining: probably won't have to worry about being over-committed for next year! ;D
First order of business... Un-follow Buzz on Twitter
Marquette interim athletic director Bill Cords just said Buzz Williams is talking to his team right now and that the apparent message is that he is leaving to take the Virginia Tech job.
"I think that's what he's going to tell them," Cords said.
Quote from: elephantraker on March 21, 2014, 04:50:23 PM
Had to check the calendar to make sure its not April ,1
First thought that popped into my head as well...
I wondered if he insisted that Virginia Tech starts a Buzz's Bunch franchise? It is a business you know!
at least now we don't have to worry about Derrick Wilson being the starting PG next year....
My thought when rumors were flying about USF is that he would have thought hard about that had they been invited to the ACC. He has huge amounts of man crushes for the coaches from the former BE and loves him some Boeheim and Pitino. Not to mention the other big coaches in the ACC. It makes sense to me in that way.
Quote from: martyconlonontherun on March 21, 2014, 04:53:06 PM
It's a business. Anyone who took Buzz at his word for being here as long as they have me was crazy. I really liked Buzz and thought he was a great recruiter, but couldn't understand how the board thought he was so different than TC or any other coach,
First, yes I knew his statement had some hyperbole to it. But there also seemed to be some real humility and appreciation from him for MU giving him an opportunity. Does he owe us anything? No. But don't spend 5 years bullshitting us either.
Second, why shouldn't we hope to get a coach that stays for the long term and retires here? The second I stop thinking that's possible I will probably also lose a big portion of my fandom.
Third, MU was nothing but gracious when dealing with Buzz. "Rolling contract" with basically annual renewals and raises... wow. If that doesn't keep someone around then I guess I should reconsider my "second" comment.
Quote from: madtownwarrior on March 21, 2014, 05:04:01 PM
at least now we don't have to worry about Derrick Wilson being the starting PG next year....
+1
Quote from: AZWarrior on March 21, 2014, 05:01:47 PM
Marquette interim athletic director Bill Cords just said Buzz Williams is talking to his team right now and that the apparent message is that he is leaving to take the Virginia Tech job.
"I think that's what he's going to tell them," Cords said.
So then the news leaked before he talked to his players?
By the way, Virgina Tech has been to the NCAA tournament a grand total of 8 times - the last being 2007. They have been to the Big Dance twice since 1986. They have been to one sweet 16 and one Elite Eight - both in 1967.
Good luck to you Buzz. Thanks for the memories and the nice NCAA runs here at Marquette. You could have been another legend like Maguire, but now you'll have to build up a dormant VT program. Good luck.
I really hope it turns out Buzz can't coach for sh*t after all. I hope he fails miserably
Quote from: Norm on March 21, 2014, 05:06:17 PM
So then the news leaked before he talked to his players?
By the way, Virgina Tech has been to the NCAA tournament a grand total of 8 times - the last being 2007. They have been to the Big Dance twice since 1986. They have been to one sweet 16 and one Elite Eight - both in 1967.
Good luck to you Buzz. Thanks for the memories and the nice NCAA runs here at Marquette. You could have been another legend like Maguire, but now you'll have to build up a dormant VT program. Good luck.
If it leaked from the VT side, I can't put that on Buzz.
Quote from: AZWarrior on March 21, 2014, 05:09:25 PM
If it leaked from the VT side, I can't put that on Buzz.
i can
Quote from: AZWarrior on March 21, 2014, 05:09:25 PM
If it leaked from the VT side, I can't put that on Buzz.
But didn't it leak from the IU side when Crean left?
So we've got Bill Cords picking our next coach....wtf..he's not connected in anymore.
Is va tech the worst job in the ACC?! I mean seriously I'm going over the other teams in my head and I can't think of a worse job in the conference. Maybe Clemson or ga tech? What the unnatural carnal knowledge buzz? I feel like he's just going to end up fired or bolting out of there in another year or two for a better job.
Now that Buzz is gone I can tell you that a former AD has referred to Buzz as the most unstable individual he has ever met. It is amazing to me that Buzz won the war and then ceded the ground he won. It is almost as if he want to blow everything up and then walk away.
Quote from: Norm on March 21, 2014, 05:06:17 PM
Good luck to you Buzz. Thanks for the memories and the nice NCAA runs here at Marquette. You could have been another legend like Maguire, but now you'll have to build up a dormant VT program. Good luck.
Not from me. I hope he's wishing he had stayed at New Orleans in 3 years.
Wow. Is this anything but a step down? I know the ACC is perhaps the best conference but VT is a dormant program. Good luck Buzz. :-(
Buzz has already updated his twitter. :(
Quote from: Norm on March 21, 2014, 05:06:17 PM
So then the news leaked before he talked to his players?
By the way, Virgina Tech has been to the NCAA tournament a grand total of 8 times - the last being 2007. They have been to the Big Dance twice since 1986. They have been to one sweet 16 and one Elite Eight - both in 1967.
Good luck to you Buzz. Thanks for the memories and the nice NCAA runs here at Marquette. You could have been another legend like Maguire, but now you'll have to build up a dormant VT program. Good luck.
By "Maguire" I'm assuming you mean Al McGUIRE!
Quote from: TJ on March 21, 2014, 05:05:08 PM
Third, MU was nothing but gracious when dealing with Buzz. "Rolling contract" with basically annual renewals and raises... wow. If that doesn't keep someone around then I guess I should reconsider my "second" comment.
They opened up their pocket book but that doesn't mean there was disagreement behind the closed doors. I think Buzz and the ADep had very different philosophies. This isn't to say Marquette was wrong but coaches are control freaks and want things their way. That probably made him very unhappy.
Quote from: Marqwarrior89 on March 21, 2014, 05:11:46 PM
Is va tech the worst job in the ACC?! I mean seriously I'm going over the other teams in my head and I can't think of a worse job in the conference. Maybe Clemson or ga tech? What the unnatural carnal knowledge buzz? I feel like he's just going to end up fired or bolting out of there in another year or two for a better job.
Clemson? Boston College? It's pretty far down there.
To start from scratch? Wow. He's never completely rebuilt anything in his career. This is just a bad bad bad move for him career wise.
Darren Wolfson @DarrenWolfson 9m
Why Buzz Williams left Marquette now, per sources: AD left in Dec. With that, clause in contract changed Buzz's buyout from $2M to 100K.
Good riddance, jagoff! You will be fired at VT within three years.
a few interesting tweets....
McKay https://twitter.com/ShowTime_McKay/status/447131425486405632 "Lol so am I the most hated person for leaving MU now ?????"
Jake https://twitter.com/JakeThomasTwo3/status/447133564119687168 "Crazy news.. but good luck to Coach Williams. The madness of march continues."
Andy Katz https://twitter.com/ESPNAndyKatz/status/447131577827737600 "Call Buzz' cell, you get message saying he is no longer in possession of phone, number to reach him is (Va Tech basketball office number)."
Quote from: Aughnanure on March 21, 2014, 05:14:19 PM
Clemson? Boston College? It's pretty far down there.
To start from scratch? Wow. He's never completely rebuilt anything in his career. This is just a bad bad bad move for him career wise.
I agree ... if you want into the ACC, Wake Forest makes a lot more sense.
He used us as a stepping-stone after the BE fell apart, just like the rest, every man for himself..
My initial reaction to this is total shock...shock at the extremelevel of apathy I have about the whole thing.
I have neither the time nor the inclination to truly care about any of this anymore. Between the corrupt NCAA, fraud of "student athletes," conference reallignment, and the ridiculous amounts of money involved in a professional enterprise masquerading as amateurism, etc., it is simply not worth my emotional energy. MU will hire a new coach, Buzz will likely do just fine at VT and everyone but the actuall basketball players involved will cash a lot of really large checks...funded by us. One day I will get a back bone and stop participating in it all, and that day gets closer all the time. Until then...march madness baby!
Quote from: martyconlonontherun on March 21, 2014, 05:14:05 PM
They opened up their pocket book but that doesn't mean there was disagreement behind the closed doors. I think Buzz and the ADep had very different philosophies. This isn't to say Marquette was wrong but coaches are control freaks and want things their way. That probably made him very unhappy.
How much of his $2M+ do you think he had to spend on therapy to console himself?
unnatural carnal knowledge him.
Can he please take Derrick Wilson with him?
Things must have been sh*tty here for him to take Va Tech gig. No self-repsecting college bball fan would say Va tech is a better job than MU. I'll wish him well, but deep down, I don't give a damn if he sh*ts the bed in Blacksburg.
I really hope VT fails to win 10 games again for the next 7 years.
What a douche
Sounds like hes already there, thinking of ways to take players with.
Quote from: ecompt on March 21, 2014, 05:17:31 PM
Can he please take Derrick Wilson with him?
Honestly, huge upside to him leaving is no D Wilson at the point next year as a starter. I love you, buddy, but you're a back-up and there's nothing wrong with that.
Quote from: NavinRJohnson on March 21, 2014, 05:16:21 PM
My initial reaction to this is total shock...shock at the extremelevel of apathy I have about the whole thing.
I have neither the time nor the inclination to truly care about any of this anymore. Between the corrupt NCAA, fraud of "student athletes," conference reallignment, and the ridiculous amounts of money involved in a professional enterprise masquerading as amateurism, etc., it is simply not worth my emotional energy. MU will hire a new coach, Buzz will likely do just fine at VT and everyone but the actuall basketball players involved will cash a lot of really large checks...funded by us. One day I will get a back bone and stop participating in it all, and that day gets closer all the time. Until then...march madness baby!
Ummmm....you are just a fan. Just enjoy the ride. I feel bad for the players he left behind.
Thanks for 5 good seasons. Now time to focus on the next coach.
Quote from: MisterDMU on March 21, 2014, 05:14:28 PM
Darren Wolfson @DarrenWolfson 9m
Why Buzz Williams left Marquette now, per sources: AD left in Dec. With that, clause in contract changed Buzz's buyout from $2M to 100K.
Is this insinuating that MU let Buzz go?
Well that was quick Buzz.
So over under on "character revealed" tweets Buzz gets today? 10,000? 20,000?
At least next year we can start the buzz-to-marquette rumors.
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 21, 2014, 05:20:08 PM
Is this insinuating that MU let Buzz go?
Not necessarily, just that it was easier to pry him away. Wolfson is a Twin Cities reporter, so he was saying Buzz would have gone to Minnesota last year if that buy-out hadn't been in place. Minnesota must have balked at paying $2M.
If true, seems like a boneheaded decision to include that provision in Buzz's contract decreasing the buy-out. $100K is the type of money these universities find between their couch cushions.
Quote from: NavinRJohnson on March 21, 2014, 05:24:30 PM
So over under on "character revealed" tweets Buzz gets today? 10,000? 20,000?
Guilty.
I know they need to hire a president first but hire Broeker and then go all in on Smart. That will keep the team intact.
Based on the twitter world it seems like not a lot of his guys didnt know about it.
Interesting how many of the article comments / Tweets from around the country are stumped or think it's a dumb move. Shows respect for our program. With Crean, they all said...I4.
So he left for money and tv reasons huh? What a joke. I thought this man was the real deal, guess you dont really know people...
Something I probably never noticed, just because I figured Buzz would be around long enough that he wouldn't still be available: Shaka was born in Madison. And his wife went to Northwestern.
My (realistic) dream hires, in order: (1) Shaka, (2) Calhoun, (3) Howland, (4) Marshall, (5) Someone with NBA experience (Danny Manning?)
Buzz is taking his talents to Virginia Beach. Buzz is dead to me.
Quote from: hdog1017 on March 21, 2014, 04:42:34 PM
They must be throwing stupid money at him. Or Buzz realizes that the new Big East is garbage. Or both.
He couldn't finish above 6th place in the new Big East.....garbage is somewhere else.
https://twitter.com/AndreiGreska/status/447142495886266368
"Buzz took less money to go to a worse job in a tougher conference. He wanted out BAD. #mubb"
Quote from: MisterDMU on March 21, 2014, 05:43:19 PM
Something I probably never noticed, just because I figured Buzz would be around long enough that he wouldn't still be available: Shaka was born in Madison. And his wife went to Northwestern.
My (realistic) dream hires, in order: (1) Shaka, (2) Calhoun, (3) Howland, (4) Marshall, (5) Someone with NBA experience (Danny Manning?)
LOL at the thought of even considering Calhoun. You want MU to be commencing another coaching search in 2 years?
All I know is this whole thing inspired me to crank up Enter Sandman. What a great song (And of the greatest scenes in all of college sports, if not sports period.)
Quote from: MisterDMU on March 21, 2014, 05:14:28 PM
Darren Wolfson @DarrenWolfson 9m
Why Buzz Williams left Marquette now, per sources: AD left in Dec. With that, clause in contract changed Buzz's buyout from $2M to 100K.
LW strikes again.
Quote from: AlumKCof93 on March 21, 2014, 04:51:57 PM
Wow. I thought the upside of having such a poor season was we wouldn't have to go through the season of "Buzz to" rumors". Guess I was wrong.
I have no issue with a man making a decision to better his life, though its strange he would do it at such a salary reduction. There was always something about Buzz that didn't sit well with me, I didn't think he was genuine. I think it was comments such as "I'll stay as long as he'll have me". As time went on and I heard things about Buzz's bunch and his teams did so well, I thought perhaps I was just wrong.
Now I'm not sure what to think. Why would a man who has had such success and seemed prime to succeed in the future (despite the conference change) leave for what is not a definite upgrade? Does it reflect on him or is there something at Marquette that results in coaches not wanting to be here after a certain amount of time? Is his decision to leave entirely a reflection on Buzz or does it also indicate that there is something unique to Marquette that despite the investment in facilities and salary, results in successful coaches looking for the next opportunity?
Seriously? What it indicates is that if you hire an antagonistic AD, your coach is likely to have some trepidation about who will be named as his replacement, even after the school has the sense to move on from that AD.
Quote from: jesmu84 on March 21, 2014, 05:50:01 PM
https://twitter.com/AndreiGreska/status/447142495886266368
"Buzz took less money to go to a worse job in a tougher conference. He wanted out BAD. #mubb"
Still slurping jesmu?
Is this Hiroshima?
http://www.jsonline.com/news/one-of-the-most-idiotic-moves-ive-ever-seen-b99230865z1-251576821.html
Brutal.
If this had happened a year ago, I would have really been down.
After what we saw this year - let's see who we get going forward, and go, Marquette!
Quote from: NickelDimer on March 21, 2014, 05:08:47 PM
I really hope it turns out Buzz can't coach for sh*t after all. I hope he fails miserably
+10,000
We can actually make this happen. Take to twitter and tweet VT recruits. Tell them about DJ Newbill. #Newbillsstory
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on March 21, 2014, 04:59:57 PM
If this is true, please aim higher than Brian Wardle
Why--Wardle is an upgrade over the douche. MU grad, played the game and he can coach. And he is not a BSer
I liked Buzz. One bad year didn't change it for me. Fired or not, I'm pretty shocked. I had to find out with my wife texting me while I was on the golf course coaching the high school team. Kind of a bummer on a decent Friday outside with the team.
The next coach has a lot of work to do, so I hope we find the right person for it, and not just an up-and-comer who has been recently successful.
Quote from: willie warrior on March 21, 2014, 08:06:51 PM
Why--Wardle is an upgrade over the douche. MU grad, played the game and he can coach. And he is not a BSer
Were not trying to regress as a program. You think Stone is going to play for Wardle?
Quote from: Rockmic87 on March 21, 2014, 08:18:00 PM
Were not trying to regress as a program. You think Stone is going to play for Wardle?
he likely wasn't going to okay for the BSer either, or he would have committed. You do not know though, do you?
Quote from: willie warrior on March 21, 2014, 08:21:20 PM
he likely wasn't going to okay for the BSer either, or he would have committed. You do not know though, do you?
What I'm saying is that we won't be landing any 4 or 5 star recruits with Wardle. Don't even hold your breath on that. I could care less if he was an MU alum or played the game. We need someone with a proven track record, a big name. Say what you want, but MU is in a sever state of declining dramatically. Now would not be the time to give an unproven guy the keys to running our program.
Quote from: Rockmic87 on March 21, 2014, 08:27:46 PM
What I'm saying is that we won't be landing any 4 or 5 star recruits with Wardle. Don't even hold your breath on that. I could care less if he was an MU alum or played the game. We need someone with a proven track record, a big name. Say what you want, but MU is in a sever state of declining dramatically. Now would not be the time to give an unproven guy the keys to running our program.
We don't need a big name. The most highly regarded head guy we've ever hired has been Dukiet. We've done very well with assistants. I just don't think Wardle is up to the task. Not to say he can't get there, but I just feel he'd be a bit over his skis.
Quote from: Rockmic87 on March 21, 2014, 08:27:46 PM
What I'm saying is that we won't be landing any 4 or 5 star recruits with Wardle. Don't even hold your breath on that. I could care less if he was an MU alum or played the game. We need someone with a proven track record, a big name. Say what you want, but MU is in a sever state of declining dramatically. Now would not be the time to give an unproven guy the keys to running our program.
"We need someone with a proven track record, a big name"...someone just like Buzz Williams was 6 years ago?
Let's face it, these coaches are so incredibly overpaid they think they are geniuses who sh!t ice cream. They have the loyalty of a pit viper and an ability for self-aggrandizement outdone only by the members of the legal "profession" (the second oldest). I liked Buzz and nought his act to an extent. Let's fill his spot with somebody who can take the program forward (even if he might be as slimy as our last two coaches or most of the profession).
Quote from: Doo on March 21, 2014, 09:25:51 PM
"We need someone with a proven track record, a big name"...someone just like Buzz Williams was 6 years ago?
Buzz was never our first choice...
Auburn was correct in thinkin' they coulda gotten Buzz had Pearl said no.
Quote from: Rockmic87 on March 21, 2014, 09:48:20 PM
Buzz was never our first choice...
But it worked out pretty well at the time didn't it
Quote from: Doo on March 21, 2014, 09:25:51 PM
"We need someone with a proven track record, a big name"...someone just like Buzz Williams was 6 years ago?
I hope we don't end up with another Buzz Williams!
Buzz Williams @TeamCoachBuzz 2m
So thankful to @MarquetteU 4life changing experiences/relationships over last 7yrs 4my family & I.More than we deserved & wont b forgotten
Quote from: WarriorCode on March 21, 2014, 10:29:20 PM
Buzz Williams @TeamCoachBuzz 2m
So thankful to @MarquetteU 4life changing experiences/relationships over last 7yrs 4my family & I.More than we deserved & wont b forgotten
Bullchit
Quote from: WarriorCode on March 21, 2014, 10:29:20 PM
Buzz Williams @TeamCoachBuzz 2m
So thankful to @MarquetteU 4life changing experiences/relationships over last 7yrs 4my family & I.More than we deserved & wont b forgotten
Unfollowed
Quote from: hdog1017 on March 21, 2014, 04:42:34 PM
They must be throwing stupid money at him. Or Buzz realizes that the new Big East is garbage. Or both.
I'm sure it's been said many times since but I'm trying to get caught up after a weekend away. Is this garbage BE that people keep talking about the same BE that kicked the crap out of Buzz's team this year? Pretty sure it is.