Bucky's loss the Northwestern at home was devastating!! They are now 1 and 4 in the last 5 and reeling. The only collapse worse in the B1G is tOSU (1 and 5 in the last 6). Great for our SoS!
The loser of tomorrow's tOSU at UW is in deep trouble and becomes a bubble team, if not out altogether (B1G is not sending 7 or 8 teams this year). I think Bucky loses.
On the other side, if we win a St. Johns tomorrow and follow-up with a Butler win Tuesday, both doable, we are 6 and 4 back in the conversation as a bubble team.
Anyone else buying the idea the Bucky collapse continues and they do not get in (or tOSU if they lose tomorrow at UW) and we climb out of the hole and do get in.
Quote from: Heisenberg on January 31, 2014, 09:18:36 AM
Bucky's loss the Northwestern at home was devastating!! They are now 1 and 4 in the last 5 and reeling. The only collapse worse in the B1G is tOSU (1 and 5 in the last 6). Great for our SoS!
The loser of tomorrow's tOSU at UW is in deep trouble and becomes a bubble team, if not out altogether (B1G is not sending 7 or 8 teams this year). I think Bucky loses.
On the other side, if we win a St. Johns tomorrow and follow-up with a Butler win Tuesday, both doable, we are 6 and 4 back in the conversation as a bubble team.
Anyone else buying the idea the Bucky collapse continues and they do not get in (or tOSU if they lose tomorrow at UW) and we climb out of the hole and do get in.
Its really hard to say. Bucky is having major defensive issues lately, and is a streaky shooting team... plus they are playing a very good conference this year.
MU is talented, but having problems stringing together wins. Our schedule is favorable, and we should be able to close out some of the road games we have left. Hard to say if MU has the quality wins to make the tournament. A win against Villanova would have really helped our cause last week.
No.
Despite their recents slides, both Wisc and OSU resumes are still impressive and they are both still "in" by about 15-20 at large teams. They will each need to lose the majority of their remaining games to really be considered bubble.
On the other hand, we are about 10-15 teams away from the bubble still. Good news is out next few games are favorable, and there will be a lot of attrition with the bubble teams. If MU can beat @stj, butler, and @shu, MU will be just a few teams outside the bubble.
I hate to say it, but Big 10 is TOUGH this year. Lots of teams going to come out of conference season with more losses than they want... but it might even be the #1 conference this year, which means at least 7 teams in, and Bucky likely to be one of them if they get things right.
still.... better dead than red. Focus on the Warriors!
I feel like this is something you scream when you're alone in the Grand Canyon and having a moment.
I like the affirmation!
Need a .500 conference record in the Big 10 regardless of non-conference. Bucky should get that.
Wisconsin is in unless they finish worse than 8-10 in the Big Ten. Wisconsin has wins over Florida, SLU, Marquette, WVU, SJU, Green Bay, Virginia, Iowa and Illinois. Yes, they're currently 4-4 in the Big10, but they're in fine shape.
Ohio State is probably in as well, but they're in a slightly less admirable position. Their best wins are against MU, Notre Dame, Maryland and Illinois - all teams that have struggled this year. They're currently sitting at 3-5 in B10, and probably need to finish 9-9 to feel comfortable.
Quote from: wardle2wade on January 31, 2014, 09:27:44 AM
Despite their recents slides, both Wisc and OSU resumes are still impressive and they are both still "in" by about 15-20 at large teams. They will each need to lose the majority of their remaining games to really be considered bubble.
On the other hand, we are about 10-15 teams away from the bubble still. Good news is out next few games are favorable, and there will be a lot of attrition with the bubble teams. If MU can beat @stj, butler, and @shu, MU will be just a few teams outside the bubble.
OSU's resume is not very impressive, with really no impressive wins out of conference, they sit at 3-5 in conference right now (next two games @Wisconsin and @Iowa). They very well could slide to 3-7 in conference and if they go 6-2 over their last 8 they'll move to 9-9 in conference.
That'll probably be good enough to get them in, but I think OSU is a lot closer to the bubble than most think.
Quote from: Heisenberg on January 31, 2014, 09:18:36 AM
Bucky's loss the Northwestern at home was devastating!! They are now 1 and 4 in the last 5 and reeling. The only collapse worse in the B1G is tOSU (1 and 5 in the last 6). Great for our SoS!
The loser of tomorrow's tOSU at UW is in deep trouble and becomes a bubble team, if not out altogether (B1G is not sending 7 or 8 teams this year). I think Bucky loses.
On the other side, if we win a St. Johns tomorrow and follow-up with a Butler win Tuesday, both doable, we are 6 and 4 back in the conversation as a bubble team.
Anyone else buying the idea the Bucky collapse continues and they do not get in (or tOSU if they lose tomorrow at UW) and we climb out of the hole and do get in.
Dreamin' is free.
Quote from: Heisenberg on January 31, 2014, 09:18:36 AM
Bucky's loss the Northwestern at home was devastating!! They are now 1 and 4 in the last 5 and reeling. The only collapse worse in the B1G is tOSU (1 and 5 in the last 6). Great for our SoS!
The loser of tomorrow's tOSU at UW is in deep trouble and becomes a bubble team, if not out altogether (B1G is not sending 7 or 8 teams this year). I think Bucky loses.
On the other side, if we win a St. Johns tomorrow and follow-up with a Butler win Tuesday, both doable, we are 6 and 4 back in the conversation as a bubble team.
Anyone else buying the idea the Bucky collapse continues and they do not get in (or tOSU if they lose tomorrow at UW) and we climb out of the hole and do get in.
On the first part, even with the turgid level of play in college basketball, Marquette isn't in the conversation as a bubble team until they win seven in a row thanks to an awful 2013.
On the second part, not a chance.
Quote from: LAZER on January 31, 2014, 09:46:25 AM
OSU's resume is not very impressive, with really no impressive wins out of conference, they sit at 3-5 in conference right now (next two games @Wisconsin and @Iowa). They very well could slide to 3-7 in conference and if they go 6-2 over their last 8 they'll move to 9-9 in conference.
That'll probably be good enough to get them in, but I think OSU is a lot closer to the bubble than most think.
While you say the Buckeyes have no impressive wins, what is impressive for a resume is their undefeated non-conference record (15 game win streak). Even if they split their remaining, big ten games, theyre in... B10 is very strong again this year.
Quote from: Heisenberg on January 31, 2014, 09:18:36 AM
Bucky's loss the Northwestern at home was devastating!! They are now 1 and 4 in the last 5 and reeling. The only collapse worse in the B1G is tOSU (1 and 5 in the last 6). Great for our SoS!
The loser of tomorrow's tOSU at UW is in deep trouble and becomes a bubble team, if not out altogether (B1G is not sending 7 or 8 teams this year). I think Bucky loses.
On the other side, if we win a St. Johns tomorrow and follow-up with a Butler win Tuesday, both doable, we are 6 and 4 back in the conversation as a bubble team.
Anyone else buying the idea the Bucky collapse continues and they do not get in (or tOSU if they lose tomorrow at UW) and we climb out of the hole and do get in.
Wins over St. Johns and Butler are not resume builders. Nobody is going to put us back into tournament conversation because we can beat the 8th and 10th place teams that have a current combined 4-13 record.
Yes, we have to beat them--but its table stakes. We will also have to have a win over Creighton or Villanova (plus beat Xavier) before we are back in the conversation as a bubble team.
Quote from: The Equalizer on January 31, 2014, 10:13:14 AM
Wins over St. Johns and Butler are not resume builders. Nobody is going to put us back into tournament conversation because we can beat the 8th and 10th place teams that have a current combined 4-13 record.
Yes, we have to beat them--but its table stakes. We will also have to have a win over Creighton or Villanova (plus beat Xavier) before we are back in the conversation as a bubble team.
True, but these upcoming games are critical in getting a winning streak going and building some momentum going into another tough stretch. A 3-game win streak could do wonders for this team--beat SJU and it's a real possiblity. I have a feeling we're going to absolutely hammer Butler at home next week.
Quote from: The Equalizer on January 31, 2014, 10:13:14 AM
Wins over St. Johns and Butler are not resume builders. Nobody is going to put us back into tournament conversation because we can beat the 8th and 10th place teams that have a current combined 4-13 record.
Yes, we have to beat them--but its table stakes. We will also have to have a win over Creighton or Villanova (plus beat Xavier) before we are back in the conversation as a bubble team.
Check out the bubble. It is weak. Lunardi had a 9 loss BYU team as the first team out of the tournament on his latest projections. He other teams right behind BYU are nothing special. An 8-2 finish and MU is in the tournament. But 8-2 will not be a cakewalk.
This post is silly.
UW is in. Even if they lose to OSU, they are still probably looking at a projected 7-10 seed.
MU is nowhere close to in. They are not completely out of it yet, but they have to pretty much go 1 or 2 losses from here on out, which is very very tough.
Quote from: Bleuteaux on January 31, 2014, 10:29:42 AM
This post is silly.
UW is in. Even if they lose to OSU, they are still probably looking at a projected 7-10 seed.
MU is nowhere close to in. They are not completely out of it yet, but they have to pretty much go 1 or 2 losses from here on out, which is very very tough.
Things can change, but as of now, you are correct. UW is firmly in, we are outside even the softest of bubbles.
I predict Arizona, as a #1 seed, will lose to a #16.
If this happens, I'll remind everyone about the prediction, provide a link, and wax poetic about why I felt this way. If it doesn't happen, I'll never mention it again.
Exactly like this thread.
Unless UW goes on a 10-game losing streak it is in the Dance. You get ranked in the Top 5 any time in the season and you're in.
Quote from: wardle2wade on January 31, 2014, 10:11:22 AM
While you say the Buckeyes have no impressive wins, what is impressive for a resume is their undefeated non-conference record (15 game win streak). Even if they split their remaining, big ten games, theyre in... B10 is very strong again this year.
It'll depend where the wins/losses come from, but an 8-10 OSU will be pretty nervous on section Sunday. The B10 is strong this year, but it's not nearly as strong as it has been the last few years. Illinois, Nebraska, Penn St, Purdue, and Northwestern are all pretty bad, Indiana and Minnsota are ok.
I might quit Scoop after this post.
I cant stand Bucky but seriously doubt they dont make the tournament. Lets give some props to Chris Collins and NU though. He has had some major wins this year. Also, with a lot of talent coming in next year I cant believe im going to say this, but watch out for Northwestern basketball.
Makes sense.
UW's projected RPI if they go 2-8 the rest of thee way (a .35% chance of happening) is 39. Our RPI at 9-1 (.23% chance) is 40.
In every 125,000 years or so they is bound to occur. And it still would be almost certain UW is in.
Now, I haven't adjusted that figure for the possible scenario of Yellowstone erupting and the ashes blowing far enough to wipe out Madison but not make it to Milwaukee while somehow they still decide to hold the NCAA tournament.
Quote from: ecompt on January 31, 2014, 10:46:52 AM
Unless UW goes on a 10-game losing streak it is in the Dance. You get ranked in the Top 5 any time in the season and you're in.
BS
Bucky loses tomorrow at home to tOSU, after losing to Northwestern at home and they are out of the top 25 on Monday. (tOSU is probably out of the top 25 win or lose thanks to the PSU loss.)
If Bucky follows up a tOSU loss with a loss on Tuesday @Ill then they are staring at #7 MSU next Saturday.
If all that happens, come back and say they could lose to MSU and 4 or 5 more in a row and make the tourney.
Get real
Quote from: chapman on January 31, 2014, 11:02:24 AM
Makes sense.
UW's projected RPI if they go 2-8 the rest of thee way (a .35% chance of happening) is 39. Our RPI at 9-1 (.23% chance) is 40.
In every 125,000 years or so they is bound to occur. And it still would be almost certain UW is in.
UW is not gonna go 2-8. But if they did, 6-12 in conference, 19-12 overall might be good enough for a 39 RPI but it wouldn't get them into the tourney without at least 2 BIG tourney wins.
Quote from: ecompt on January 31, 2014, 10:46:52 AM
Unless UW goes on a 10-game losing streak it is in the Dance. You get ranked in the Top 5 any time in the season and you're in.
Happens all the time. See #3 Kentucky last year.
How about former #3 tOSU this year? They are 1 and 5 in the last six. Lose tomorrow and they are 3 and 6 in the B1G. Are they a lock too and can reel off 7 straight losses and get in?
Quote from: TallTitan34 on January 31, 2014, 10:59:23 AM
I might quit Scoop after this post.
Oh no. Everyone. Titan is threatening to quit the Internet.
Someone stop him.
Someone.
Please.
Stop.
Maybe he can update the Prediction Board before he bolts, aina?
I would say a significantly higher chance that MU does not make the tourney and Bucky does...
You need legitimate psychological help if you think the badgers are even close to the bubble.
Please tell me you were under the influence of alcohol and at least 5 felony level drugs before making this thread.
Quote from: HaywardsHeroes32 on January 31, 2014, 12:30:56 PM
You need legitimate psychological help if you think the badgers are even close to the bubble.
Please tell me you were under the influence of alcohol and at least 5 felony level drugs before making this thread.
reading comprehension ... Said
IF Bucky loses to tOSU tomorrow THEN they are in trouble (as they would be 1 and 5 in the last 6 games). I predicted they would lose to tOSU tomorrow. Then I said
IF they lose to tOSU and are 1 and 5 in the last six games, @ILL becomes critical as they then have MSU next Saturday. So,
IF they lose tomorrow, things could spiral out of control for Bucky
You do understand the definition of "if."
Quote from: Heisenberg on January 31, 2014, 09:18:36 AM
Bucky's loss the Northwestern at home was devastating!! They are now 1 and 4 in the last 5 and reeling. The only collapse worse in the B1G is tOSU (1 and 5 in the last 6). Great for our SoS!
The loser of tomorrow's tOSU at UW is in deep trouble and becomes a bubble team, if not out altogether (B1G is not sending 7 or 8 teams this year). I think Bucky loses.
On the other side, if we win a St. Johns tomorrow and follow-up with a Butler win Tuesday, both doable, we are 6 and 4 back in the conversation as a bubble team.
Anyone else buying the idea the Bucky collapse continues and they do not get in (or tOSU if they lose tomorrow at UW) and we climb out of the hole and do get in.
Hoo Boy. Pass the LSD.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on January 31, 2014, 11:40:50 AM
Maybe he can update the Prediction Board before he bolts, aina?
Doubtful.
Quote from: LAZER on January 31, 2014, 09:46:25 AM
OSU's resume is not very impressive, with really no impressive wins out of conference, they sit at 3-5 in conference right now (next two games @Wisconsin and @Iowa). They very well could slide to 3-7 in conference and if they go 6-2 over their last 8 they'll move to 9-9 in conference.
That'll probably be good enough to get them in, but I think OSU is a lot closer to the bubble than most think.
Yeah, but their ass kicking of us at home will put them in over us any day.
Quote from: Heisenberg on January 31, 2014, 12:35:31 PM
reading comprehension ... Said IF Bucky loses to tOSU tomorrow THEN they are in trouble (as they would be 1 and 5 in the last 6 games). I predicted they would lose to tOSU tomorrow. Then I said IF they lose to tOSU and are 1 and 5 in the last six games, @ILL becomes critical as they then have MSU next Saturday. So, IF they lose tomorrow, things could spiral out of control for Bucky
You do understand the definition of "if."
I understand the definition of "if" and its still wrong. If UW loses to OSU tomorrow they are not in trouble. They are still safely in.
Quote from: Heisenberg on January 31, 2014, 12:35:31 PM
reading comprehension ... Said IF Bucky loses to tOSU tomorrow THEN they are in trouble (as they would be 1 and 5 in the last 6 games). I predicted they would lose to tOSU tomorrow. Then I said IF they lose to tOSU and are 1 and 5 in the last six games, @ILL becomes critical as they then have MSU next Saturday. So, IF they lose tomorrow, things could spiral out of control for Bucky
You do understand the definition of "if."
So a lot of ifs....and still wrong.
IF they lose tomorrow they are still NO WHERE near the bubble
Quote from: wardle2wade on January 31, 2014, 09:27:44 AM
Despite their recents slides, both Wisc and OSU resumes are still impressive and they are both still "in" by about 15-20 at large teams. They will each need to lose the majority of their remaining games to really be considered bubble.
On the other hand, we are about 10-15 teams away from the bubble still. Good news is out next few games are favorable, and there will be a lot of attrition with the bubble teams. If MU can beat @stj, butler, and @shu, MU will be just a few teams outside the bubble.
+1
As of 3 days ago both were still in the top 25 by Lunardi. One more loss doesn't put you on the bubble
Quote from: Heisenberg on January 31, 2014, 09:18:36 AM
Bucky's loss the Northwestern at home was devastating!! They are now 1 and 4 in the last 5 and reeling. The only collapse worse in the B1G is tOSU (1 and 5 in the last 6). Great for our SoS!
The loser of tomorrow's tOSU at UW is in deep trouble and becomes a bubble team, if not out altogether (B1G is not sending 7 or 8 teams this year). I think Bucky loses.
On the other side, if we win a St. Johns tomorrow and follow-up with a Butler win Tuesday, both doable, we are 6 and 4 back in the conversation as a bubble team.
Anyone else buying the idea the Bucky collapse continues and they do not get in (or tOSU if they lose tomorrow at UW) and we climb out of the hole and do get in.
Lol there is no "if" or or Illinois mentioned.
Seriously, how many different drugs have you taken in the past 24 hours? Better be at least 7
Quote from: Heisenberg on January 31, 2014, 11:19:54 AM
Happens all the time. See #3 Kentucky last year.
How about former #3 tOSU this year? They are 1 and 5 in the last six. Lose tomorrow and they are 3 and 6 in the B1G. Are they a lock too and can reel off 7 straight losses and get in?
Kentucky was ranked third in the first month of the season, and strictly on preseason hype. They were nowhere near the Top 5 in January. In fact, they were 4-3 on December 1. OSU and UW would have top completely tank not to make it; their RPIs are way too good.
Quote from: ecompt on January 31, 2014, 02:57:53 PM
Kentucky was ranked third in the first month of the season, and strictly on preseason hype. They were nowhere near the Top 5 in January. In fact, they were 4-3 on December 1. OSU and UW would have top completely tank not to make it; their RPIs are way too good.
That is what they are doing.
I would rather see OSU out than UW though both are annoying.
As for MU, hoping for 4/5 @home and 4/5 on road. Starts in NY on Sat.
Not even a little bit.....people forget the whole season counts. UWs RPI is 9...their SOS is 3
They are 4-2 against the top 50(we are 1-8) They have 10 top 100 wins ...we have 3.
OSU has 7 top 100 wins... computer numbers are pretty good..and if its close between them and us they did beat us by 18 points on our court...
UW is pretty much a lock.......OSU could possibly fall out but they have a much better chance of making it then we do.
Quote from: Heisenberg on January 31, 2014, 09:18:36 AM
Bucky's loss the Northwestern at home was devastating!! They are now 1 and 4 in the last 5 and reeling. The only collapse worse in the B1G is tOSU (1 and 5 in the last 6). Great for our SoS!
The loser of tomorrow's tOSU at UW is in deep trouble and becomes a bubble team, if not out altogether (B1G is not sending 7 or 8 teams this year). I think Bucky loses.
On the other side, if we win a St. Johns tomorrow and follow-up with a Butler win Tuesday, both doable, we are 6 and 4 back in the conversation as a bubble team.
Anyone else buying the idea the Bucky collapse continues and they do not get in (or tOSU if they lose tomorrow at UW) and we climb out of the hole and do get in.
Gimme some of that meth you are smoking Heisenberg
Quote from: brandx on January 31, 2014, 01:53:34 PM
+1
As of 3 days ago both were still in the top 25 by Lunardi. One more loss doesn't put you on the bubble
Palm updated his bracket today and has OSU as an 11 seed. Their profile is plummeting right now and another loss this weekend will only add to the free fall.
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on January 31, 2014, 09:43:26 AM
Wisconsin is in unless they finish worse than 8-10 in the Big Ten. Wisconsin has wins over Florida, SLU, Marquette, WVU, SJU, Green Bay, Virginia, Iowa and Illinois. Yes, they're currently 4-4 in the Big10, but they're in fine shape.
Ohio State is probably in as well, but they're in a slightly less admirable position. Their best wins are against MU, Notre Dame, Maryland and Illinois - all teams that have struggled this year. They're currently sitting at 3-5 in B10, and probably need to finish 9-9 to feel comfortable.
I'm not saying UW is a bubble team, but their resume is not nearly as impressive as you think. They beat Florida when they had like 6 total players on the team. SLU is solid, but really only played two quality games and lost them both. If we played SLU's schedule I think we would be 16-2 also. WVU is bad. SJU is bad. Illinois is bad.
Their quality wins are Iowa, Virginia. I think Us or UWGB is their third best win when one considers the circumstances of when the games were played.
The B10 is not nearly as strong as people thought they were. Northwestern (who is 4-5 in the big) may be the worst team I have seen play this year (judging from the depaul game). They lost to Depaul and Illinois St. out of conference and were beaten by a bad NC State team by 21. Yet they are currently tied for 6th in the B10.
I honestly think if the B10 played the Big East (top 10 from each conference) that we would win at least 5.
Creighton vs. Michigan Win for Creighton
Villanova vs. Mich. St. Toss up. I'll give it to Nova only because of Mich. St. injuries.
Xavier vs. Iowa Iowa in a close game
Providence vs. UW Toss up. If they played today Providence would win easily (cotton would score 30).
Marquette vs. Minnesota Toss up. Give it to minnesota
Seton Hall vs. Northwestern. Seton Hall
Georgetown vs. Ohio State OSU
St. John's vs. Purdue St. John's
Depaul vs. Indiana Would be interesting we'll give it to Indiana
Butler vs. Nebraska Butler
That is 6-4 Big East over B10. B10 isn't as strong as people think and the Big East is not as weak as people think.
The Big 10 at a minimum will get 7 bids. The loser of the Ohio St/UW game will have some work to do, but they would need to keep losing to not get a bid.
Quote from: bilsu on January 31, 2014, 07:21:57 PM
The Big 10 at a minimum will get 7 bids. The loser of the Ohio St/UW game will have some work to do, but they would need to keep losing to not get a bid.
I think they'll end up getting 6 unless someone makes a run in the B10 tourney... Mich, MSU, Iowa, Wisc, OSU, and Minn all solidly in.
Quote from: bilsu on January 31, 2014, 07:21:57 PM
The Big 10 at a minimum will get 7 bids. The loser of the Ohio St/UW game will have some work to do, but they would need to keep losing to not get a bid.
They'll get 7 max, most likely 6.
Illinois, Northwestern, Purdue, Nebraska, and Penn St aren't making the tournament. Indiana probably not.
Lol at nova beating MSU. Even if you are considering their injuries.
Healthy it wouldn't even be close. MSU is making the final 4 without a doubt.
Quote from: forgetful on January 31, 2014, 07:14:13 PM
If we played SLU's schedule I think we would be 16-2 also. WVU is bad. SJU is bad. Illinois is bad.
Must be smokin' the same stuff as Heisenberg.
UW & Wichita St. are easy losses so you think we are 16-0 against the rest of their schedule. Have you seen us play this year?
My God, where do people come up with some of this stuff. UW is in the Top 10 of RPI and have a host of quality wins.
MU is 80th right now with GW and Prov as our two good wins.
Both teams have a loooong way to go before your scenario plays out. The likely scenario is UW gets a 4 seed in the Dance and MU gets a first round home game in the NIT.
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Quote from: Heisenberg on January 31, 2014, 11:05:43 AM
BS
Bucky loses tomorrow at home to tOSU, after losing to Northwestern at home and they are out of the top 25 on Monday. (tOSU is probably out of the top 25 win or lose thanks to the PSU loss.)
If Bucky follows up a tOSU loss with a loss on Tuesday @Ill then they are staring at #7 MSU next Saturday.
If all that happens, come back and say they could lose to MSU and 4 or 5 more in a row and make the tourney.
Get real
Please read what I said. I said, "UNLESS UW goes on a 10-game losing streak..." You hypothesize that they will go on such a streak. Then we agree that they won't make it. Got it?
Quote from: Heisenberg on January 31, 2014, 12:35:31 PM
reading comprehension ... Said IF Bucky loses to tOSU tomorrow THEN they are in trouble (as they would be 1 and 5 in the last 6 games). I predicted they would lose to tOSU tomorrow. Then I said IF they lose to tOSU and are 1 and 5 in the last six games, @ILL becomes critical as they then have MSU next Saturday. So, IF they lose tomorrow, things could spiral out of control for Bucky
You do understand the definition of "if."
Give it up - everyone here disagrees with your whole premise.
Quote from: brandx on January 31, 2014, 07:54:21 PM
Must be smokin' the same stuff as Heisenberg.
UW & Wichita St. are easy losses so you think we are 16-0 against the rest of their schedule. Have you seen us play this year?
Have you seen their schedule. We lose at most 1 besides UW and Wichita St. The next best team that they have played is Richmond.
Quote from: forgetful on January 31, 2014, 08:41:50 PM
Have you seen their schedule. We lose at most 1 besides UW and Wichita St. The next best team that they have played is Richmond.
We lost to Butler. We have 1 win against teams that are gonna be in the tournament.
Quote from: brandx on January 31, 2014, 08:45:42 PM
We lost to Butler. We have 1 win against teams that are gonna be in the tournament.
Butler is better than Richmond. Richmond is the third best team that SLU played.
Quote from: forgetful on January 31, 2014, 08:48:27 PM
Butler is better than Richmond. Richmond is the third best team that SLU played.
We are a team that struggled with southern, seton hall, New Hampshire and DePaul all at home.
And you're trying to say we would run the table with SLU schedule besides those two? Stop.
Quote from: brandx on January 31, 2014, 01:53:34 PM
As of 3 days ago both were still in the top 25 by Lunardi. One more loss doesn't put you on the bubble
And two days ago they lost at home to Northwestern. Lose tomorrow and Lundari's next update is radically different.
Quote from: ecompt on January 31, 2014, 08:10:03 PM
Please read what I said. I said, "UNLESS UW goes on a 10-game losing streak..." You hypothesize that they will go on such a streak. Then we agree that they won't make it. Got it?
Yes, you think if they go 1and 9 they will make it.
Quote from: Heisenberg on January 31, 2014, 11:03:29 PM
Yes, you think if they go 1and 9 they will make it.
Maybe 8-2, maybe 7-3.
0-10 about 1 chance in 100,000,000 that happens
Quote from: Heisenberg on January 31, 2014, 11:03:29 PM
Yes, you think if they go 1and 9 they will make it.
Dude just admit it. This is the most moronic thread in the history of this board.
Quote from: brandx on January 31, 2014, 11:28:08 PM
Maybe 8-2, maybe 7-3.
0-10 about 1 chance in 100,000,000 that happens
Hey now, according to RPI Forecast it's only 1 in 67,438. :D If my math is correct, since it's not even on their list of possible scenarios. But surely worthy of discussion. Should they lose tomorrow it'll only be a totally realistic 1 in 29,000 chance. Considering that's totally possible, we should probably be too busy preparing for the 1 in 10,000 chance of a supervolcano eruption in our lifetime to pay attention anyway.
This thread should be called "the Heisenberg uncertainty principle"
You never really know where a team is, and there are probabilities it could go anywhere.
So its a legit thread to me. :)
Quote from: HaywardsHeroes32 on January 31, 2014, 11:59:14 PM
Dude just admit it. This is the most moronic thread in the history of this board.
+1000
Lunardi tweeted his S curve today. Marquette is the 10th team out. Work to do for sure but we are in the picture. 12-6 will do it.
Quote from: chapman on February 01, 2014, 12:20:32 AM
Hey now, according to RPI Forecast it's only 1 in 67,438. :D If my math is correct, since it's not even on their list of possible scenarios. But surely worthy of discussion. Should they lose tomorrow it'll only be a totally realistic 1 in 29,000 chance. Considering that's totally possible, we should probably be too busy preparing for the 1 in 10,000 chance of a supervolcano eruption in our lifetime to pay attention anyway.
Dumb and Dumber: So you're saying there's a chance?
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At first I thought this was a joke, but I think he is serious. It's also why I don't worry about football tumbling or television disappearing in no time Berg...your comments like this just reinforce it.
Berg is probably thing right about now that he should have waited to watch MU against St. John's before posting.
If we saw this thread on another forum we would mock their fan base.
Quote from: TallTitan34 on February 01, 2014, 12:36:28 PM
If we saw this thread on another forum we would mock their fan base.
absolutely right, Titan. Embarrassing.
Quote from: TallTitan34 on February 01, 2014, 12:36:28 PM
If we saw this thread on another forum we would mock their fan base.
I'm not agreeing with the idea that UW might not make the tournament, but to be fair, there are about 3 or 4 threads on the badger board suggesting that they might not make it.
MU has got a run in 'em. A run of losses. This team has given up and Buzz needs to lose the self righteous attitude.
Can we delete this thread, so I don't have to look at the dumb anymore?
Why delete it, it half right now ... Bucky lost to tOSU 1and 5 in their last 6, 3 and 5 in the B1G.
If Bucky loses @ill on Tuesday, stick a fork in them.
There's a chance Kate Upton appears bare ass naked on my front doorstep tomorrow mornin' too, hey?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on February 01, 2014, 10:07:12 PM
There's a chance Kate Upton appears bare ass naked on my front doorstep tomorrow mornin' too, hey?
I'll send her over when I'm done with her.
Quote from: Heisenberg on February 01, 2014, 01:38:40 PM
Why delete it, it half right now ... Bucky lost to tOSU 1and 5 in their last 6, 3 and 5 in the B1G.
If Bucky loses @ill on Tuesday, stick a fork in them.
No.
Quote from: Heisenberg on February 01, 2014, 01:38:40 PM
Why delete it, it half right now ... Bucky lost to tOSU 1and 5 in their last 6, 3 and 5 in the B1G.
If Bucky loses @ill on Tuesday, stick a fork in them.
You do realize it matters who you beat and to whom you lose to. Their losses in the last 6 games include losing to NCAA teams Ohio State and Michigan. Losing at Indiana and at Minnesota. Losing to Northwestern. The only loss that dinged them was the home loss to Northwestern (of course they already beat NW on the road).
Their current RPI is 13. Projected RPI is 17.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on February 01, 2014, 10:07:12 PM
There's a chance Kate Upton appears bare ass naked on my front doorstep tomorrow mornin' too, hey?
Yes!! We need more Kate Upton pictures here. Keefe will likely post one of her straddling a fighter jet---and he will be in the cockpit.
better think again----neither will MU
There are a lot of worthy contenders but I think this might be the most hilariously ridiculous thread in the history of MUScoop.
Three weeks ago Bucky was #3
This week they are not ranked.
In the history of college basketball, how many teams went from #3 to unanked in three weeks or less after January 1st? (tOSU is also unranked this week ... 4 weeks ago they were also #3. So Bucky collapsed faster)
Tomorrow Bucky plays at Ill and Saturday they host MSU. Bucky loses tomorrow and they are toast... NIT bound.
Quote from: Heisenberg on February 03, 2014, 01:43:31 PM
Three weeks ago Bucky was #3
This week they are not ranked.
In the history of college basketball, how many teams went from #3 to unanked in three weeks or less after January 1st? (tOSU is also unranked this week ... 4 weeks ago they were also #3. So Bucky collapsed faster)
Tomorrow Bucky plays at Ill and Saturday they host MSU. Bucky loses tomorrow and they are toast... NIT bound.
There are 43 unranked teams that make the NCAA every year. Even accounting for every single at large, thats quite a leap to say they wont make it because they are unranked
Quote from: Heisenberg on February 03, 2014, 01:43:31 PM
Three weeks ago Bucky was #3
This week they are not ranked.
In the history of college basketball, how many teams went from #3 to unanked in three weeks or less after January 1st? (tOSU is also unranked this week ... 4 weeks ago they were also #3. So Bucky collapsed faster)
Tomorrow Bucky plays at Ill and Saturday they host MSU. Bucky loses tomorrow and they are toast... NIT bound.
They are currently favored to win (by Ken Pom and RPI) 6 more games, pick'em in one, and underdog in two. That would leave them at 23 or 24 wins. Say they only win half of the games they are favored in, that would still mean 20 wins including wins over Florida, West Virginia, Saint Louis, St. John's, Marquette, UW GB, Iowa, Northwestern, Virginia.
They are going to the NCAA tournament barring an absolute catastrophe....like 1-8 or 2-7 in these last 9. It's not like they have been run out of the building with these losses. Losing by 1 to OSU, by 3 at Indiana, they lost at Minnesota (happens to many teams), they lost to Michigan (hardly a bad loss).
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on February 03, 2014, 02:58:35 PM
They are currently favored to win (by Ken Pom and RPI) 6 more games, pick'em in one, and underdog in two. That would leave them at 23 or 24 wins. Say they only win half of the games they are favored in, that would still mean 20 wins including wins over Florida, West Virginia, Saint Louis, St. John's, Marquette, UW GB, Iowa, Northwestern, Virginia.
They are going to the NCAA tournament barring an absolute catastrophe....like 1-8 or 2-7 in these last 9. It's not like they have been run out of the building with these losses. Losing by 1 to OSU, by 3 at Indiana, they lost at Minnesota (happens to many teams), they lost to Michigan (hardly a bad loss).
You are right. It would take a catastrophe for UW to not make the NCAA. I don't think there's hardly any chance it will happen. Thing is, though, I didn't see any chance that they would lose 5 of the last 6 either (Ken Pom had them favored in all 6). Right now the BIG has 1 really good team (with a couple of big injuries, two pretty good teams, and 9 fair to poor teams. Similar to the Big East and maybe everyone except the Big 12. Not much cream, lots of crap.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on February 03, 2014, 02:58:35 PM
They are going to the NCAA tournament barring an absolute catastrophe....like 1-8 or 2-7 in these last 9. It's not like they have been run out of the building with these losses. Losing by 1 to OSU, by 3 at Indiana, they lost at Minnesota (happens to many teams), they lost to Michigan (hardly a bad loss).
This is the reverse of the Northwestern argument. Bucky is in a 4 way tie for 5th place at 4-5 (with tOSU, Minn and IU). If they go 4 - 5 in their next 9 and finish 8 - 10 they will finish 6th or 7th in the B1G. In NU finishes above them, Bucky will go and they will pass over NU because they have a crappy RPI? How many mediocre teams will the B1G send.
Again, their season is tomorrow. If they lose @Ill I say they then lose to MSU this weekend. If they are 4 - 7 one week from today, they are toast. And they are playing bad enough in the last five that this could happen (including two losses to now unranked teams at home last week ... something no Bo Ryan team has ever done).
Quote from: Heisenberg on February 03, 2014, 03:40:57 PM
This is the reverse of the Northwestern argument. Bucky is in a 4 way tie for 5th place at 4-5 (with tOSU, Minn and IU). If they go 4 - 5 in their next 9 and finish 8 - 10 they will finish 6th or 7th in the B1G. In NU finishes above them, Bucky will go and they will pass over NU because they have a crappy RPI? How many mediocre teams will the B1G send.
Again, their season is tomorrow. If they lose @Ill I say they then lose to MSU this weekend. If they are 4 - 7 one week from today, they are toast. And they are playing bad enough in the last five that this could happen (including two losses to now unranked teams at home last week ... something no Bo Ryan team has ever done).
So to be clear, you're back on the toast \ put fork in them. If they lose tomorrow, they don't make the NCAA tournament because you have them losing to MSU this weekend. Is that correct?
I think they can lose these next two and still be just fine....though it would not surprise me in the least to see them beat MSU at home. They will likely beat IU at home, Purdue at home, Minnesota at home. Penn State will be tough away, not a game anyone wants to play but they likely find a way. I can see them losing to Nebraska, Iowa and Michigan away.
That's a resume that will get you in. They just have too many wins over other teams. It would require an epic collapse, which maybe they will do, but I don't see how losing tomorrow and to MSU = TOAST. Too many games left after that.
Quote from: Bleuteaux on February 03, 2014, 02:18:56 PM
There are 43 unranked teams that make the NCAA every year. Even accounting for every single at large, thats quite a leap to say they wont make it because they are unranked
Again three weeks ago they were #3, now they are unranked. This is a monumental collapse for a #3 team after January 1st (yes it happens early in the season, but not after 17 games).
Are you predicting a team that is complete free-fall is going to now turn it around? The same team that had tOSU all but won but could not score one single FG at home in the last seven minutes of the game and blew critical free-throws. A team that is in such disarray that Trevon Jackson is being booed everytime he touches the ball and has ripped the home fans.
Bucky is in deep doo doo right now.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on February 03, 2014, 03:48:23 PM
So to be clear, you're back on the toast \ put fork in them. If they lose tomorrow, they don't make the NCAA tournament because you have them losing to MSU this weekend. Is that correct?
I think they can lose these next two and still be just fine....though it would not surprise me in the least to see them beat MSU at home. They will likely beat IU at home, Purdue at home, Minnesota at home. Penn State will be tough away, not a game anyone wants to play but they likely find a way. I can see them losing to Nebraska, Iowa and Michigan away.
That's a resume that will get you in. They just have too many wins over other teams. It would require an epic collapse, which maybe they will do, but I don't see how losing tomorrow and to MSU = TOAST. Too many games left after that.
To sum it up ...
I see a team that is #3 three weeks ago now unranked. I see a team lose to NU and tOSU at home, both unranked, something that has not happened in the Bo Ryan era (before last week, in the last 12 years Bucky has lost to only 1 unranked B1G team at home. Last week they did it twice in 4 days). I see a team that is blowing leads late in the game. I see a team that has so upset it home fans they boo Jackson every-time he touches the ball. I see a team that has proven Kenpom wrong 5 of the last 6 games.
You see nothing unusual and we still need to expect Bucky to perform like an undefeated #3 team. You think nothing has changed.
That's the difference in our arguments. Is this merely a bump in the round or something more. You say bump, I say something more.
Repeat after me.....Total....body...of....work.....
What they were ranked 2 weeks ago doesn't matter.......You are going to have to find 37 ateams with better resumes....good luck with that.....http://www.unf.edu/~jcoleman/dance.htm
Quote from: Heisenberg on February 03, 2014, 03:49:10 PM
Again three weeks ago they were #3, now they are unranked. This is a monumental collapse for a #3 team after January 1st (yes it happens early in the season, but not after 17 games).
Are you predicting a team that is complete free-fall is going to now turn it around? The same team that had tOSU all but won but could not score one single FG at home in the last seven minutes of the game and blew critical free-throws. A team that is in such disarray that Trevon Jackson is being booed everytime he touches the ball and has ripped the home fans.
Bucky is in deep doo doo right now.
Quote from: MuMark on February 03, 2014, 04:09:31 PM
Repeat after me.....Total....body...of....work.....
What they were ranked 2 weeks ago doesn't matter.......You are going to have to find 37 ateams with better resumes....good luck with that.....http://www.unf.edu/~jcoleman/dance.htm
Making the same mistake everyone else is making. If selection Sunday was today, they are in. But its not today, it is 6 weeks away. Something happened to this team and they are not the same but rather a significantly worse brand of ball. Yes, the total body of work in six weeks will not be there.
Quote from: Heisenberg on February 03, 2014, 04:35:25 PM
Making the same mistake everyone else is making. If selection Sunday was today, they are in. But its not today, it is 6 weeks away. Something happened to this team and they are not the same but rather a significantly worse brand of ball. Yes, the total body of work in six weeks will not be there.
C'mon man - give it up already!!!
This is an MU basketball board, right. Soooo, who cares.
Looks like the toast and fork can be put away.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on February 04, 2014, 11:25:01 PM
Looks like the toast and fork can be put away.
+1
Can we lock and destroy this thread now?
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on February 03, 2014, 03:48:23 PM
I think they can lose these next two and still be just fine....though it would not surprise me in the least to see them beat MSU at home.
No, it wouldn't surprise me at all to see them beat MSU at home....as they just did.
So, how dumb do you feel?
Hahaha
Becky's back in the AP Top 25 at #21 this week. Looks like they'll be fine.
Quote from: Heavy Gear on February 10, 2014, 03:01:53 PM
Becky's back in the AP Top 25 at #21 this week. Looks like they'll be fine.
What is the GIF in your signature? I'm not gettin' it
Changed it up.
if Heisenberg had any logic skills or humility, he would have changed the title of this thread to "Bucky will make the tourney, will MU?"
Quote from: Heavy Gear on February 10, 2014, 08:11:57 PM
Changed it up.
Wasn't complaining about the hot chick, just was wondering what it meant.
I do like the new one though