-georgetown and marquette stink
-the games in nyc are often non-HD and hard to locate
-television ratings are poor
-the announcers and in-studio personalities are third-rate
marquette has a nice recruiting class coming in. however, make no mistake, this slide in competition and exposure will negatively affect recruiting going forward.
Last year (and previous years) I loved to watch the other teams in the conference play one another. I haven't watched one game except our games this year. I'm not sure if it is our poor performance or the new conference. I suppose it is probably a bit of both.
Quote from: dolly4512 on January 19, 2014, 10:49:02 AM
-georgetown and marquette stink
-the games in nyc are often non-HD and hard to locate
-television ratings are poor
-the announcers and in-studio personalities are third-rate
marquette has a nice recruiting class coming in. however, make no mistake, this slide in competition and exposure will negatively affect recruiting going forward.
ditto
Wrong. The New Big East is solid, and will improve with time. No college bball gets great ratings before mid January, no matter the network. If you can't find the channels, pay an extra 10 bucks a month and upgrade your damn cable package and stop b*itching. FS1 is not ESPN, but it will be a huge asset for the Big East going forward.
As for the talent of the league, yeah Georgetown and Marquette are down this year, but the league as a whole is solid from 1-10. Anyone can beat anyone, and besides Depaul and Seton Hall (who have both been playing well), the other 8 teams will be in the NCAA or NIT. The Big East will be a step below the B10 and ACC most seasons, but it will be right there with the PAC 12, BIG12 and SEC. Is it the Big East of 2006-2012? Obviously not, but this league is not garbage - not even close.
The conference is currently ranked 4th. Yes that's not as good as the Big East before the split, but it's a far cry from garbage. We have been blessed with some amazingly tight matchups (I'd be willing to bet that the BE has had more OT games than any other conference to this point). We have good teams from 1-10. On any given night Depaul could beat Villanova. That is great for competition.
The ratings are down, that sucks. But as 5J mentioned, no one has good ratings this time of year. At least every single one of our games is on national TV.
I'm really not sure what we are complaining about. The split from the AAC has been nothing but good for us.
Quote from: radome on January 19, 2014, 11:17:43 AM
Last year (and previous years) I loved to watch the other teams in the conference play one another. I haven't watched one game except our games this year. I'm not sure if it is our poor performance or the new conference. I suppose it is probably a bit of both.
I would respectfully submit that if you have only watched our games this year, you have not really been watching anything to judge from, as we have been stinking it up.
Quote from: willie warrior on January 19, 2014, 12:02:14 PM
I would respectfully submit that if you have only watched our games this year, you have not really been watching anything to judge from, as we have been stinking it up.
What possible purpose does this post serve.
Quote from: forgetful on January 19, 2014, 12:04:46 PM
What possible purpose does this post serve.
In good news Ahmed Hill will be up on saturday for the Villanova game.... Got word of it this morning... Hope that influences the guys to be on their A-Game..... Wishful thinking...
Quote from: forgetful on January 19, 2014, 12:04:46 PM
What possible purpose does this post serve.
That you cannot judge the play of the entire conference just watching our lame games!!!!!!!
Quote from: willie warrior on January 19, 2014, 12:08:55 PM
That you cannot judge the play of the entire conference just watching our lame games!!!!!!!
Then why not say something like, Creighton has been extremely good, the Xavier/Creighton game was an excellent game and Providence was able to come out and dominate Creighton at Providence.
There are great games and great teams in the Big East, although a down year for MU, the BE is solid.
See how that post contains the same information in general but does not take unnecessary shots at the team.
Quote from: willie warrior on January 19, 2014, 12:08:55 PM
That you cannot judge the play of the entire conference just watching our lame games!!!!!!!
Right....
Villanova 16-1
Creighton 15-3
Xavier 14-4
Providence 13-5
if the season ended today they would be 2, 4, 5, and 6 seeds at least in the ncaa tournament....
this conference is far from weak.....
all those teams have what we dont..... Senior leadership! outside shooting! Hustle and heart....
just because Marquette looks like 12 walk on freshmen every night... doesnt mean the New big east is weak...
if mu and gtown were doing what they typically have done over the last few years this would be a heck of a conference. mu and gtown will get back to normal in future years, and hopefully a coaching change can bring success to st. johns.
Quote from: avid1010 on January 19, 2014, 12:16:43 PM
if mu and gtown were doing what they typically have done over the last few years this would be a heck of a conference. mu and gtown will get back to normal in future years, and hopefully a coaching change can bring success to st. johns.
St. Johns has talent..... they just dont win... its Baffling... this year
Quote from: radome on January 19, 2014, 11:17:43 AM
Last year (and previous years) I loved to watch the other teams in the conference play one another. I haven't watched one game except our games this year. I'm not sure if it is our poor performance or the new conference. I suppose it is probably a bit of both.
I've caught parts of one or two, but I know what you mean, and it's both the conference lacking and the availability of games lacking. Used to always have the Big Monday matchup on because it would inevitably be between two top 20 teams, and before our games on Saturdays there would be some other BE game between teams that were locks for the tournament. Yesterday I would have tuned in to Georgetown losing by double digits at home to a team that lost to Mercer, Farleigh Dickinson, and St. Peter's. Monday will be a treat, since it offers the only possible combination of two tournament locks in the conference. Also can't turn on the set and see every game...one program upgrade for FS1, would have to have another for FS2, would have to have a special package for CBSSN, nothing at all online.
Quote from: Nevada233 on January 19, 2014, 12:07:30 PM
In good news Ahmed Hill will be up on saturday for the Villanova game.... Got word of it this morning... Hope that influences the guys to be on their A-Game..... Wishful thinking...
Can we suit him up in Jake's uni and let him fling it?
I never understood why people were so excited to leave ESPN. I'm beginning to think that these people all live in Milwaukee and get the local broadcast. If you are out of state, leaving espn has sucked.
I'm told I'm suppose to be "patient." Yeah....sure.
And I think I watched what looked like the first real BE game of the season yesterday. Huge crowd...espn...two ranked teams...a dog fight...Pitt...Syracuse. :(
I like this league a lot. It competitive from top to bottom. The double round robin format will help really develop rivalries. Also the production quality on FS1 is excellent. We get all the games one way or another, just like before. Marquette has to step it up if it wants to compete in this league long term.
The reality is that our Conference Brand took a major hit this past year. We have gone from being in the premiere basketball conference to the 5th or 6th best. But that doesn't mean Marquette basketball cannot flourish.
Pfizer grossly overpaid for Warner Lambert precisely because it wanted a few assets, such as Listerine. Chrysler bought AMC for Jeep. Our new conference has some excellent assets, including Marquette. My biggest concern is the timing of our off year. This season was not the one in which to flail. Next season takes on significantly greater importance.
Quote from: Atticus on January 19, 2014, 02:49:30 PM
I never understood why people were so excited to leave ESPN. I'm beginning to think that these people all live in Milwaukee and get the local broadcast. If you are out of state, leaving espn has sucked.
I'm told I'm suppose to be "patient." Yeah....sure.
And I think I watched what looked like the first real BE game of the season yesterday. Huge crowd...espn...two ranked teams...a dog fight...Pitt...Syracuse. :(
I live in SE Texas. I have seen every Marquette game and have tuned into other Big East games.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on January 19, 2014, 04:07:07 PM
I live in SE Texas. I have seen every Marquette game and have tuned into other Big East games.
It really is no excuse. I don't live in Wisconsin and have had zero problem getting a game. The people who complain are just to cheap to spend an extra 10 bucks a month. It's a joke. Every MU game has been and will be nationally televised. Pay up or shut up.
Yeah, I really wish we were in the American Athletic Conference.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on January 19, 2014, 04:07:07 PM
I live in SE Texas. I have seen every Marquette game and have tuned into other Big East games.
Availability isn't the problem. Never said that.
Quote from: Atticus on January 19, 2014, 04:15:02 PM
Availability isn't the problem. Never said that.
So explain why you said the people who like FS1 are all local and get the "local broadcast" which I don't believe even exists anymore? What's your problem with FS1 if it is not availability?
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on January 19, 2014, 04:09:28 PM
It really is no excuse. I don't live in Wisconsin and have had zero problem getting a game. The people who complain are just to cheap to spend an extra 10 bucks a month. It's a joke. Every MU game has been and will be nationally televised. Pay up or shut up.
Old 5 J's tells it like it is!
Don't worry about the ratings. If some of FS1 games were on ESPN, they would be higher. It's more of people not finding the channel or saying I wonder what is on FS1.
Quote from: dolly4512 on January 19, 2014, 10:49:02 AM
-georgetown and marquette stink
-the games in nyc are often non-HD and hard to locate
-television ratings are poor
-the announcers and in-studio personalities are third-rate
marquette has a nice recruiting class coming in. however, make no mistake, this slide in competition and exposure will negatively affect recruiting going forward.
There is no evidence that it is negatively effecting our recruiting.
Quote from: AWegrzyn17 on January 19, 2014, 04:14:26 PM
Yeah, I really wish we were in the American Athletic Conference.
If MU did, would be on ESPNU and ESPN News with the same ratings FS1 is getting.
The NBE isn't garbage. But compared to the OBE, it's very second rate. Having a sub-mediocre seasons is really salt in the wound.
Quote from: bilsu on January 19, 2014, 06:20:26 PM
There is no evidence that it is negatively effecting our recruiting.
Actually, recruiting is down slightly using RSCI rankings:
2013:
#30 JuJuan Johnson
#54 Deonte Burton
#59 Duane Wilson
#3 JUCO Jameel McKay
unr John Dawson
Keep in mind that all these players verballed before the league split was annouced.
2014:
#64 Ahmed Hill
#71 (2013) Luke Fischer
#82 Sandy Cohen
#97 Malek Harris
unr Marial Shayok
unr Satchel Pierce
Now, this data may not be conclusive. And I'm not going to argue there aren't other possible reasons for a decline, or that one year isn't enough data. But it does represent evidence that recruiting has taken a slight dip, making any statement that "There is no evidence" of negative impact incorrect, at least as of this point.
Quote from: The Equalizer on January 19, 2014, 07:21:39 PM
Actually, recruiting is down slightly using RSCI rankings:
2013:
#30 JuJuan Johnson
#54 Deonte Burton
#59 Duane Wilson
#3 JUCO Jameel McKay
unr John Dawson
Keep in mind that all these players verballed before the league split was annouced.
2014:
#64 Ahmed Hill
#71 (2013) Luke Fischer
#82 Sandy Cohen
#97 Malek Harris
unr Marial Shayok
unr Satchel Pierce
Now, this data may not be conclusive. And I'm not going to argue there aren't other possible reasons for a decline, or that one year isn't enough data. But it does represent evidence that recruiting has taken a slight dip, making any statement that "There is no evidence" of negative impact incorrect, at least as of this point.
Our numbers are slightly down but the rest of the Big East is up.
Quote from: dolly4512 on January 19, 2014, 10:49:02 AM
-georgetown and marquette stink
-the games in nyc are often non-HD and hard to locate
-television ratings are poor
-the announcers and in-studio personalities are third-rate
marquette has a nice recruiting class coming in. however, make no mistake, this slide in competition and exposure will negatively affect recruiting going forward.
The new ACC is garbage
- UNC is not ranked and Duke is barely ranked at 23
- the games in Chicago are often not televised
- the television ratings are poor compared to last year
- the announcers are third rate as FS1 hired away the good ones
make no mistake, this slide in competition and exposure will negatively affect recruiting going forward.
Quote from: dolly4512 on January 19, 2014, 10:49:02 AM
-georgetown and marquette stink
-the games in nyc are often non-HD and hard to locate
-television ratings are poor
-the announcers and in-studio personalities are third-rate
marquette has a nice recruiting class coming in. however, make no mistake, this slide in competition and exposure will negatively affect recruiting going forward.
The new AAC is garbage
- no teams ranked in the top 15
- no games to be found on TV in Chicago
- television ratings are poor
- the announcers and in studio personalities are third-rate
make no mistake, this slide in competition and exposure will negatively affect recruiting going forward.
Thank you Heisenberg. But I would make one addition to your post about the AAC
Our football schools are getting paid less than basketball only schools in the Big East
I live out of state and have seen every game. One was on standard def because FS2 has no HD on my package. If my local cable company didn't offer FS1 I would switch to Direct TV immediately.
Quote from: The Equalizer on January 19, 2014, 07:21:39 PM
Actually, recruiting is down slightly using RSCI rankings:
2013:
#30 JuJuan Johnson
#54 Deonte Burton
#59 Duane Wilson
#3 JUCO Jameel McKay
unr John Dawson
Keep in mind that all these players verballed before the league split was annouced.
2014:
#64 Ahmed Hill
#71 (2013) Luke Fischer
#82 Sandy Cohen
#97 Malek Harris
unr Marial Shayok
unr Satchel Pierce
Now, this data may not be conclusive. And I'm not going to argue there aren't other possible reasons for a decline, or that one year isn't enough data. But it does represent evidence that recruiting has taken a slight dip, making any statement that "There is no evidence" of negative impact incorrect, at least as of this point.
Hysterical - absolutely hysterical!! - that you think this is "evidence" that our recruiting has taken a dip since the NBE was formed. The fact that we were able to reel in the 2014 class immediately following the 2013 class you reference is moreso evidence of the EXACT OPPOSITE of the premise you claim! Thanks for being you, Equalizer. High comedy!
Quote from: Jajuannaman on January 20, 2014, 07:01:10 AM
Hysterical - absolutely hysterical!! - that you think this is "evidence" that our recruiting has taken a dip since the NBE was formed. The fact that we were able to reel in the 2014 class immediately following the 2013 class you reference is moreso evidence of the EXACT OPPOSITE of the premise you claim! Thanks for being you, Equalizer. High comedy
What's hysterical is that you obviously don't understand numbers.
While this may come as a surprise to you, when it comes to player rankings, 30, 54, and 59 are all BETTER than 64, 71, 82, and 97.
As I said, its not conclusive nor was it the only possible evidence. But it does refute the claim that there is NO evidence that recruiting hast been impcated. This simple fact is apparently beyond your mental capacity.
This years class--while nice--is not as strong as last year. Thats not arguable in fact. It proves EXACTLY what I said it proves. There is evidence that our recruiting is down. The best player in the 2014 class would be the 5th best behind four of our 2013 recruits.
Time will tell whether our recruiting stays down or recovers to where it was in 2013. But this year, we're down.
I still watch every minute of our games, but admit I watch about none of the other Big East games, unlike in years past. I think that is a result of our poor play more than anything else.
I don't know what this means, but I always DVR our games and over the past few years rewatched the BE and big non-con games one more time, usually a day later with a more critical eye on what we were doing (fast forwarding through timeouts and FTs you can re-watch in about an hour), and I have not done that once this year. I just delete them.
Marquette is garbage this year. Georgetown is mediocre. The fact that Creighton can come into this conference and dominate speaks volumes about this conference. Its not good.
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on January 19, 2014, 07:19:50 PM
The NBE isn't garbage. But compared to the OBE, it's very second rate. Having a sub-mediocre seasons is really salt in the wound.
Where would the ACC be if it wasn't for Syracuse & Pitt, in terms of ranked team. Pitt, might not even be ranked later today.
Quote from: Dreadman24 on January 20, 2014, 07:37:45 AM
Marquette is garbage this year. Georgetown is mediocre. The fact that Creighton can come into this conference and dominate speaks volumes about this conference. Its not good.
The book is open on Creighton coming in and dominate the league. They lost at PC and are at Villanova (6pm FS1) tonight. Still have to play at MU, G'town, Xavier, etc.
The use of the word "garbage" in the OP invalidates everything the poster says.
It's a good basketball league. It's not great, it's better than mediocre.
One thing it isn't is "garbage."
Quote from: forgetful on January 19, 2014, 12:13:20 PM
Then why not say something like, Creighton has been extremely good, the Xavier/Creighton game was an excellent game and Providence was able to come out and dominate Creighton at Providence.
There are great games and great teams in the Big East, although a down year for MU, the BE is solid.
See how that post contains the same information in general but does not take unnecessary shots at the team.
Thank you for the lecture forgotten one.If you could understand that reading is fundamental, my comment defended the league and you would have understood that. The rest of the comment about our lam games is factual. We have played terrible in conference thus far. There is a lecture right back to you.
Quote from: The Equalizer on January 20, 2014, 07:25:35 AM
What's hysterical is that you obviously don't understand numbers.
While this may come as a surprise to you, when it comes to player rankings, 30, 54, and 59 are all BETTER than 64, 71, 82, and 97.
As I said, its not conclusive nor was it the only possible evidence. But it does refute the claim that there is NO evidence that recruiting hast been impcated. This simple fact is apparently beyond your mental capacity.
This years class--while nice--is not as strong as last year. Thats not arguable in fact. It proves EXACTLY what I said it proves. There is evidence that our recruiting is down. The best player in the 2014 class would be the 5th best behind four of our 2013 recruits.
Time will tell whether our recruiting stays down or recovers to where it was in 2013. But this year, we're down.
The fact that you completely ignore the context of the previous year's class when discussing the 2014 recruiting class is the laughable part. Like pulling a class with the NUMBERS you site immediately following the 2013 class with the NUMBERS you site isn't evidence of the exact opposite.
Quote from: The Equalizer on January 20, 2014, 07:25:35 AM
What's hysterical is that you obviously don't understand numbers.
While this may come as a surprise to you, when it comes to player rankings, 30, 54, and 59 are all BETTER than 64, 71, 82, and 97.
As I said, its not conclusive nor was it the only possible evidence. But it does refute the claim that there is NO evidence that recruiting hast been impcated. This simple fact is apparently beyond your mental capacity.
This years class--while nice--is not as strong as last year. Thats not arguable in fact. It proves EXACTLY what I said it proves. There is evidence that our recruiting is down. The best player in the 2014 class would be the 5th best behind four of our 2013 recruits.
Time will tell whether our recruiting stays down or recovers to where it was in 2013. But this year, we're down.
What does Luke Fischer's willingness to come to the new Big East prove?
Quote from: The Equalizer on January 19, 2014, 07:21:39 PM
Actually, recruiting is down slightly using RSCI rankings:
2013:
#30 JuJuan Johnson
#54 Deonte Burton
#59 Duane Wilson
#3 JUCO Jameel McKay
unr John Dawson
Keep in mind that all these players verballed before the league split was annouced.
2014:
#64 Ahmed Hill
#71 (2013) Luke Fischer
#82 Sandy Cohen
#97 Malek Harris
unr Marial Shayok
unr Satchel Pierce
Now, this data may not be conclusive. And I'm not going to argue there aren't other possible reasons for a decline, or that one year isn't enough data. But it does represent evidence that recruiting has taken a slight dip, making any statement that "There is no evidence" of negative impact incorrect, at least as of this point.
So, essentially your data point for determining whether the NBE is hurting recruiting is how next year's class stacks up against the best (at least by ranking) MU recruiting class in decades?
That seems completely fair and reasonable. And totally not the work of someone with an obvious agenda.
Quote from: Pakuni on January 20, 2014, 09:28:35 AM
So, essentially your data point for determining whether the NBE is hurting recruiting is how next year's class stacks up against the best (at least by ranking) MU recruiting class in decades?
That seems completely fair and reasonable. And totally not the work of someone with an obvious agenda.
+1
All but 3 games this season are carried on a network that airs nationally (CBSS, FS1, FS2, ESPN's). Those 3 were aired locally in WI on Fox Sports Wisconsin. With an upgrade to your cable package you can buy all of the RSN's (all the FSN's the CSN's etc).
I have seen every single MU game in HD this year. I'll admit I have the top tier sports package, but I'm a big sports fan.
I also find a BE game on FS1, FS2 or CBSS nearly every night. All in HD.
I don't get the fuss on distribution.
Quote from: The Lens on January 20, 2014, 10:06:24 AM
All but 3 games this season are carried on a network that airs nationally (CBSS, FS1, FS2, ESPN's). Those 3 were aired locally in WI on Fox Sports Wisconsin. With an upgrade to your cable package you can buy all of the RSN's (all the FSN's the CSN's etc).
I have seen every single MU game in HD this year. I'll admit I have the top tier sports package, but I'm a big sports fan.
I also find a BE game on FS1, FS2 or CBSS nearly every night. All in HD.
I don't get the fuss on distribution.
Exactly. Cheap asses just bit*hin to b*tch. Again, pay up or shut up.
Quote from: MU82 on January 20, 2014, 08:49:38 AM
What does Luke Fischer's willingness to come to the new Big East prove?
That he's a typical Marquette big?
/Sorry, I couldn't resist.
Quote from: Pakuni on January 20, 2014, 09:28:35 AM
So, essentially your data point for determining whether the NBE is hurting recruiting is how next year's class stacks up against the best (at least by ranking) MU recruiting class in decades?
That seems completely fair and reasonable. And totally not the work of someone with an obvious agenda.
1. I didn't say conclusively NBE was hurting recruiting. I said there was some evidence of it. Somehow, twice now, you missed the point where I said it wasn't conclusive or that there may not be other reasons.
2. As you well know, the "class" rank is derived as much (if not more) from the number of recruits in a class versus the individul quality of each recruit. I suspect that you shifted this argument from quality to quantity because that better fits your agenda. No matter what you claim about "class rank", the fact remains that none of our 2014 recruits comes close to matcing the individual #3 JUCO McKay or #30 HS Johnson, and they all fall behind both Burton and Wilson as well.
3. Your comments about the "best class in decades" aside, in most years we manage to land either a top 50 HS recruit recruit (Blue, Cadougan, Jamil Wilson, JaJuan Johonson) a JUCO AA (Crowder, McKay, DJO, Buycks, Taylory, Butler) or in some years multiple. We have no such players this year, for only the 2nd time since Buzz has been here.
Coulple that with the observation that Buzz has never been in a stronger recruiting position (coming off an Elite Eight, solid long term contract, won the battle with the AD, no more uncertainty over conference afffiliation, etc).
Once again, i'm not saying this is conclusive yet and that time will tell (so stop try to twist that into my argument). What I am saying is that there is some evidence that we're down this year, and if this trend continues it COULD be a reflection that the NBE is hurting recruiting.
Quote from: The Equalizer on January 19, 2014, 07:21:39 PM
Actually, recruiting is down slightly using RSCI rankings:
2013:
#30 JuJuan Johnson
#54 Deonte Burton
#59 Duane Wilson
#3 JUCO Jameel McKay
unr John Dawson
Keep in mind that all these players verballed before the league split was annouced.
2014:
#64 Ahmed Hill
#71 (2013) Luke Fischer
#82 Sandy Cohen
#97 Malek Harris
unr Marial Shayok
unr Satchel Pierce
Now, this data may not be conclusive. And I'm not going to argue there aren't other possible reasons for a decline, or that one year isn't enough data. But it does represent evidence that recruiting has taken a slight dip, making any statement that "There is no evidence" of negative impact incorrect, at least as of this point.
If this years class cannot beat the 2013 class on the floor I might as well cancel my tickets.
Quote from: MU82 on January 20, 2014, 08:49:38 AM
What does Luke Fischer's willingness to come to the new Big East prove?
He wanted to be closer to home and IU blocked a transfer to UW
Quote from: keefe on January 20, 2014, 02:14:48 PM
He wanted to be closer to home and IU blocked a transfer to UW
I could be wrong here, but I thought he said in his press release that Crean did not block UW. I could be totally off base with that, but I thought he said that.
EDIT: fifth paragraph
http://msn.foxsports.com/wisconsin/story/transfer-fischer-should-offer-marquette-a-unique-dimension-starting-next-season-011414
Quote from: striker14 on January 20, 2014, 07:26:33 PM
I could be wrong here, but I thought he said in his press release that Crean did not block UW. I could be totally off base with that, but I thought he said that.
Not sure, actually. Fischer said early on that he would not seek a transfer to another Big 10 school. I have to wonder, though, as he had far more connectivity to UW than MU. In any event, a great get for us.
I don't understand what possible objective could be served by ripping the new Big East. Remaining in the elite Big East of old was not an option. Our choices were to remain in a conference that would soon include Tulane and will lose UConn, Cincinnati and Memphis shortly or go out on our own. Personally I think we made the right choice.
If MU were playing well right now, I don't think many people would be b*tching about the new conference.
Quote from: keefe on January 20, 2014, 07:31:13 PM
Not sure, actually. Fischer said early on that he would not seek a transfer to another Big 10 school. I have to wonder, though, as he had far more connectivity to UW than MU. In any event, a great get for us.
He does, but Bucky didn't even make his final 5 out of high school. We did. It is possible that Fischer just wanted to be here at MU?
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on January 20, 2014, 07:57:46 PM
He does, but Bucky didn't even make his final 5 out of high school. We did. It is possible that Fischer just wanted to be here at MU?
Yes
If today's game proved anything, it's that the Big East is HARDLY garbage.
It will continue to offer competitive, physical, entertaining basketball.
I LOVE the continuation of the league.
Quote from: GoldenWarrior11 on January 20, 2014, 10:54:34 PM
If today's game proved anything, it's that the Big East is HARDLY garbage.
It will continue to offer competitive, physical, entertaining basketball.
I LOVE the continuation of the league.
Creighton blew out Villanova. I repeat, Creighton blew out Villanova. Let that sink in fellas. This conference sucks!
This is a very fun and competitive league for all. The double round robin makes it very exciting. Can't wait for Butler and Georgetown to play us at the BC.