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Title: Best Transfers OUT of MU
Post by: 77ncaachamps on October 24, 2013, 06:13:51 PM
Who would be on that Top 10 list for basketball?

Mbakwe?
Odartey?
Karon Bradley?

We've been pretty fortunate on the receiving end, no?
Title: Re: Best Transfers OUT of MU
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on October 24, 2013, 06:21:26 PM
Maymon has been very good, as he would have been had he stayed
Title: Re: Best Transfers OUT of MU
Post by: Pakuni on October 24, 2013, 06:22:21 PM
Does Newbill count?

Maymon's developed into a solid player, when healthy.
Alton Mason was good at Arizona State.
Shannon Smith had a nice career at UWM and almost played in the league.
DeMarcus Minor had a good two years at Baylor.
Title: Re: Best Transfers OUT of MU
Post by: MuMark on October 24, 2013, 06:23:28 PM
Christopherson had a nice career at ISU.

ps. Don't think you can count Newbill...he never attended MU. If you count him you would have to count Ty Taylor too.......
Title: Re: Best Transfers OUT of MU
Post by: 🏀 on October 24, 2013, 07:14:14 PM
Ron Howard's earning a NBDL paycheck.
Title: Re: Best Transfers OUT of MU
Post by: Archies Bat on October 24, 2013, 07:50:56 PM
Quote from: PTM on October 24, 2013, 07:14:14 PM
Ron Howard's earning a NBDL paycheck.
Did he quit directing?
Title: Re: Best Transfers OUT of MU
Post by: Stronghold on October 24, 2013, 08:02:01 PM
In recent memory I'd have to say Mbakwe.  One of the top rebounders around
Title: Re: Best Transfers OUT of MU
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on October 24, 2013, 08:09:05 PM
Mbakwe could be a NBA player, so that's one.

Christopherson was on a all Big 12 team twice

Maymon

Blankson

Shannon Smith

What did Ellenson do at UW-madison? 

Brandon Bell?  Charles Brakes?  Jeff Zavada?  Keith Stewart?  Gerald Posey?
Title: Re: Best Transfers OUT of MU
Post by: 4everwarriors on October 24, 2013, 08:14:33 PM
Crean
Title: Re: Best Transfers OUT of MU
Post by: tower912 on October 24, 2013, 08:16:43 PM
As soon as I saw who had the last post, I knew the punchline. 
Title: Re: Best Transfers OUT of MU
Post by: MuMark on October 24, 2013, 08:23:11 PM
Krunti Hester?  ;)

Gerald Posey

Yeah I'd have to say Trevor
Title: Re: Best Transfers OUT of MU
Post by: TJ on October 24, 2013, 08:57:51 PM
I'd say Christopherson.  He was going nowhere fast on the MU roster, once he transferred he had a very nice career at Iowa State.

All of the rest of the answers would have been about as good at MU as they were elsewhere; Christopherson improved his situation by transferring IMO.
Title: Re: Best Transfers OUT of MU
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 24, 2013, 09:27:49 PM
Brett Roseboro

I agree that DJ Newbill doesn't count, but dang it would be nice to have him on our team this year.
Title: Re: Best Transfers OUT of MU
Post by: 77ncaachamps on October 24, 2013, 09:48:26 PM
- Mbakwe
- Maymon
- Christopherson
- Blankson
- Shannon Smith
- Ron Howard
- Karon Bradley (http://basketball.realgm.com/player/Karon-Bradley/Summary/6187)
- Alton Mason (http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-athletes/nba/alton-mason-net-worth/)
- Any more pre-KO kids?
Title: Re: Best Transfers OUT of MU
Post by: Dawson Rental on October 24, 2013, 10:12:34 PM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on October 24, 2013, 08:09:05 PM
Mbakwe could be a NBA player, so that's one.

Christopherson was on a all Big 12 team twice

Maymon

Blankson

Shannon Smith

What did Ellenson do at UW-madison? 

Brandon Bell?  Charles Brakes?  Jeff Zavada?  Keith Stewart?  Gerald Posey?

I'm pretty sure that Brandon Bell self destructed, and both Charles Brakes and Keith Stewart had little success elsewhere.
Title: Re: Best Transfers OUT of MU
Post by: real chili 83 on October 24, 2013, 10:39:03 PM
Good lord, can't believe you all missed the most obvious choice of all......


Lloyd Moore
Title: Re: Best Transfers OUT of MU
Post by: LloydMooresLegs on October 24, 2013, 10:40:32 PM
Quote from: real chili 83 on October 24, 2013, 10:39:03 PM
Good lord, can't believe you all missed the most obvious choice of all......


Lloyd Moore
;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Best Transfers OUT of MU
Post by: Stronghold on October 24, 2013, 10:42:28 PM
If we are going the Newbill approach then Tyshawn Taylor tops the list.
Title: Re: Best Transfers OUT of MU
Post by: Galway Eagle on October 25, 2013, 12:09:10 AM
Mbao enough said
Title: Re: Best Transfers OUT of MU
Post by: Dawson Rental on October 25, 2013, 12:19:35 AM
Quote from: Pakuni on October 24, 2013, 06:22:21 PM
Does Newbill count?

Maymon's developed into a solid player, when healthy.
Alton Mason was good at Arizona State.
Shannon Smith had a nice career at UWM and almost played in the league.
DeMarcus Minor had a good two years at Baylor.

Wasn't there another Mason who transferred on Crean after having a nice freshman year?  From the Chicago area, IIRC.
Title: Re: Best Transfers OUT of MU
Post by: Dawson Rental on October 25, 2013, 12:21:32 AM
Quote from: MuMark on October 24, 2013, 08:23:11 PM
Krunti Hester?  ;)

Gerald Posey

Yeah I'd have to say Trevor

Did Krunti Hester even enroll?  Or did he not come when Deane got canned?
Title: Re: Best Transfers OUT of MU
Post by: keefe on October 25, 2013, 12:47:44 AM
Quote from: LittleMurs on October 25, 2013, 12:19:35 AM
Wasn't there another Mason who transferred on Crean after having a nice freshman year?  From the Chicago area, IIRC.

Dameon Mason from Aurora transferred to LSU.
Title: Re: Best Transfers OUT of MU
Post by: MUHoopsFan2 on October 25, 2013, 01:44:02 AM
Quote from: LittleMurs on October 24, 2013, 10:12:34 PM
I'm pretty sure that Brandon Bell self destructed, and both Charles Brakes and Keith Stewart had little success elsewhere.
I like a kid name Ronald ...whatshisname played at Valparasio and got an invite from an NBA team...recently after all these years.

Oh yeah, Ron Howard? Is that his name? I have watched him bounce around the D-League for years now. Works hard and plays both ends.

I like his game. Good young man too. I met him briefly on campus. 6'5 and can play...
Title: Re: Best Transfers OUT of MU
Post by: 77ncaachamps on October 25, 2013, 02:17:22 AM
Quote from: real chili 83 on October 24, 2013, 10:39:03 PM
Good lord, can't believe you all missed the most obvious choice of all......


Lloyd Moore

Flashback: http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1129&dat=19820415&id=ttlaAAAAIBAJ&sjid=mG0DAAAAIBAJ&pg=4643,3748410

What happened?: http://books.google.com/books?id=plTljveL_qAC&pg=PT35&lpg=PT35&dq=lloyd+moore+basketball&source=bl&ots=RL25DGqob6&sig=p9I9mUpXAemVA876WCYpDZ1Jdyw&hl=en&sa=X&ei=4xpqUsG0I4XBiwLP14EI&ved=0CF4Q6AEwDA#v=onepage&q=lloyd%20moore%20basketball&f=false

Dismissed: http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=p2caAAAAIBAJ&sjid=cioEAAAAIBAJ&pg=6833%2C903908

Quote from: keefe on October 25, 2013, 12:47:44 AM
Dameon Mason from Aurora transferred to LSU.

I had forgotten about Mason. (How could I? He hit the GW over Loserville!)
But he didn't do too well at LSU. Look at his dismal senior year. 7 games!

http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/player/lsu/dameon-mason


Quote from: LittleMurs on October 25, 2013, 12:21:32 AM
Did Krunti Hester even enroll?  Or did he not come when Deane got canned?

He played two minutes in two games, then got Creaned.
http://journaltimes.com/make-room-for-williams-mu-s-hester-to-transfer/article_f05259c6-8058-5b8e-a142-ae699d96088a.html

Weird. Ended up at Lamar...with Deane. http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/players/18766

Looks like Krunti is doing something with his life. AMDG.
http://kruntihesterproductions.com/about/
Title: Re: Best Transfers OUT of MU
Post by: 77ncaachamps on October 25, 2013, 02:39:41 AM
Quote from: LittleMurs on October 24, 2013, 10:12:34 PM
I'm pretty sure that Brandon Bell self destructed, and both Charles Brakes and Keith Stewart had little success elsewhere.


Brandon Bell: http://basketball.realgm.com/player/Brandon-Bell/Summary/6184

Brakes: Special Events Manager for the Cowgirls?!
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/dir/Charles/Brakes

Stewart:
to St Marys in TX http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=i1ExAAAAIBAJ&sjid=1BIEAAAAIBAJ&pg=3133%2C3348168

But he withdrew and transferred to UC Irvine. But...http://articles.latimes.com/1993-03-07/sports/sp-8266_1_keith-stewart
Title: Re: Best Transfers OUT of MU
Post by: Knight Commission on October 25, 2013, 08:15:54 AM
ODB's was the most painful and in deference to Todd Townsend, ODB probably had the highest WAR (Wins Above Replacement) of any transfer.
Title: Re: Best Transfers OUT of MU
Post by: warriorchick on October 25, 2013, 08:21:35 AM
Here is another way to look at that question.  Which transfer was best for Marquette basketball?  In other words, which not-so-great player transferred out and freed up a schollie for a much better player?
Title: Re: Best Transfers OUT of MU
Post by: spartan3186 on October 25, 2013, 08:22:10 AM
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on October 25, 2013, 02:17:22 AM
I had forgotten about Mason. (How could I? He hit the GW over Loserville!)
But he didn't do too well at LSU. Look at his dismal senior year. 7 games!

http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/player/lsu/dameon-mason


Part of this is because he had a viral infection in the muscles around the heart. Tough way to end a career.

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/31857114.html
Title: Re: Best Transfers OUT of MU
Post by: bilsu on October 25, 2013, 08:24:48 AM
Quote from: Knight Commission on October 25, 2013, 08:15:54 AM
ODB's was the most painful and in deference to Todd Townsend, ODB probably had the highest WAR (Wins Above Replacement) of any transfer.
I am not sure what "WAR is, but it may be impossible to calculate. The first year after ODB we were 27-6 and there is no way to determine what our record would have been if ODB had stayed. It is easy to assume we would have been better, but that is not an actual fact. For example we beat Missouri in overtime, because Novak drilled some timely threes. Had ODB stayed he may of been in the game at that time and we would of nver gotten to overtime. Of course you can argue that with ODB we would not of needed novak's three's to win, but everything would of changed if ODB stayed.
Title: Re: Best Transfers OUT of MU
Post by: humanlung on October 25, 2013, 09:17:12 AM
Quote from: Archies Bat on October 24, 2013, 07:50:56 PM
Did he quit directing?

Yeah.  Didn't you know Opie had game?
Title: Re: Best Transfers OUT of MU
Post by: MarsupialMadness on October 25, 2013, 09:30:02 AM
Dameon Mason had *edit - it appears he was declared academicly ineligible at LSU*  He was supposed to be pretty good and seemed to have the talent.

Ryan Amoroso also had some success after leaving MU... perhaps not an outstanding college career, but he still plays professionally overseas.
Title: Re: Best Transfers OUT of MU
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on October 25, 2013, 09:33:01 AM
Quote from: MarsupialMadness on October 25, 2013, 09:30:02 AM
Ryan Amoroso also had some success after leaving MU... perhaps not an outstanding college career, but he still plays professionally overseas.

At the gaming table?
Title: Re: Best Transfers OUT of MU
Post by: CreightonWarrior on October 25, 2013, 09:41:10 AM
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on October 25, 2013, 02:17:22 AM
I had forgotten about Mason. (How could I? He hit the GW over Loserville!)

Still one of the better games I've ever been to
Title: Re: Best Transfers OUT of MU
Post by: T-Bone on October 25, 2013, 09:49:25 AM
Who the hell was Marshall Williams?  Never see anything posted about him as a TT guy, let alone playing.

Carlton Christian.  Seemed like he had an upside that could have been realized a few years down the road.

Hazel had a couple good years after MU.  

Damian Saunders in the Duquesne Run-and-gun offense.  

Matt Mortensen.  Could have started a luge team:
http://www.zimbio.com/photos/Matthew+Mortensen/Luge+World+Cup+Day+4/0I2bAEDJJnS
Title: Re: Best Transfers OUT of MU
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on October 25, 2013, 10:00:03 AM
Tom Crean's 2003 recruiting class. 
Title: Re: Best Transfers OUT of MU
Post by: NYWarrior on October 25, 2013, 10:11:32 AM
Quote from: T-Bone on October 25, 2013, 09:49:25 AM

Matt Mortensen.  Could have started a luge team:
http://www.zimbio.com/photos/Matthew+Mortensen/Luge+World+Cup+Day+4/0I2bAEDJJnS


Matt the model, it seems

https://www.facebook.com/modelmattmortensen (https://www.facebook.com/modelmattmortensen)
Title: Re: Best Transfers OUT of MU
Post by: NYWarrior on October 25, 2013, 10:13:43 AM
Quote from: T-Bone on October 25, 2013, 09:49:25 AM
Who the hell was Marshall Williams?  Never see anything posted about him as a TT guy, let alone playing.



some info on Marshall Williams here --

http://www.crackedsidewalks.com/2009/05/look-back-marquettes-history-with-top_20.html (http://www.crackedsidewalks.com/2009/05/look-back-marquettes-history-with-top_20.html)
Title: Re: Best Transfers OUT of MU
Post by: Dawson Rental on October 25, 2013, 10:26:45 AM
Quote from: T-Bone on October 25, 2013, 09:49:25 AM
Who the hell was Marshall Williams?  Never see anything posted about him as a TT guy, let alone playing.

Carlton Christian.  Seemed like he had an upside that could have been realized a few years down the road.

Hazel had a couple good years after MU.  

Damian Saunders in the Duquesne Run-and-gun offense.  

Matt Mortensen.  Could have started a luge team:
http://www.zimbio.com/photos/Matthew+Mortensen/Luge+World+Cup+Day+4/0I2bAEDJJnS


Damian Saunders was not a transfer.  He was dropped after a drug offense his senior year of HS which conveniently bailed Crean out of a oversigning situation.
Title: Re: Best Transfers OUT of MU
Post by: T-Bone on October 25, 2013, 10:33:58 AM
Quote from: LittleMurs on October 25, 2013, 10:26:45 AM
Damian Saunders was not a transfer.  He was dropped after a drug offense his senior year of HS which conveniently bailed Crean out of a oversigning situation.

He transferred out, willingly or not.
Title: Re: Best Transfers OUT of MU
Post by: NYWarrior on October 25, 2013, 10:38:37 AM
Quote from: T-Bone on October 25, 2013, 10:33:58 AM
He transferred out, willingly or not.

He never showed up at MU -- so he was never technically a transfer.
Title: Re: Best Transfers OUT of MU
Post by: Dan on October 25, 2013, 10:40:36 AM
Karl Kassulke
Title: Re: Best Transfers OUT of MU
Post by: NYWarrior on October 25, 2013, 10:45:02 AM
Anthony Candelino

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1989-01-17/sports/8902260244_1_marquette-minor-league-baseball-career-new-stadium (http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1989-01-17/sports/8902260244_1_marquette-minor-league-baseball-career-new-stadium)
Title: Re: Best Transfers OUT of MU
Post by: warriorchick on October 25, 2013, 10:47:39 AM
Quote from: NYWarrior on October 25, 2013, 10:11:32 AM
Matt the model, it seems

https://www.facebook.com/modelmattmortensen (https://www.facebook.com/modelmattmortensen)

Me gusta.
Title: Re: Best Transfers OUT of MU
Post by: Archies Bat on October 25, 2013, 10:48:06 AM
Quote from: Dan on October 25, 2013, 10:40:36 AM
Karl Kassulke

Old Fart to remember...

The last two Marquette football players to appear in the NFL were Minnesota Viking safety Karl Kassulke, who transferred to Drake University after Marquette dropped football and who entered the NFL in 1963, and Dallas Cowboy defensive lineman, George Andrie, who remained at Marquette for his senior year after the school dropped football and was then drafted by the Cowboys.  Both Kassulke and Andrie appeared in the Pro Bowl during their careers—Andrie did so on five occasions–and both appeared in the Super Bowl, albeit on the losing side.  Both players retired after the 1972 season.
Title: Re: Best Transfers OUT of MU
Post by: Dawson Rental on October 25, 2013, 10:49:59 AM
Quote from: warriorchick on October 25, 2013, 10:47:39 AM
Me gusta.

Don't encourage steroid use!
Title: Re: Best Transfers OUT of MU
Post by: Dawson Rental on October 25, 2013, 10:52:18 AM
NIV BERKOWITZ!!!
Title: Re: Best Transfers OUT of MU
Post by: Knight Commission on October 25, 2013, 01:18:56 PM
Joe Nethen to Slippery Rock I think (but ended up returning as a student). 
Title: Re: Best Transfers OUT of MU
Post by: Lennys Tap on October 25, 2013, 01:41:37 PM
Quote from: Archies Bat on October 25, 2013, 10:48:06 AM
Old Fart to remember...

The last two Marquette football players to appear in the NFL were Minnesota Viking safety Karl Kassulke, who transferred to Drake University after Marquette dropped football and who entered the NFL in 1963, and Dallas Cowboy defensive lineman, George Andrie, who remained at Marquette for his senior year after the school dropped football and was then drafted by the Cowboys.  Both Kassulke and Andrie appeared in the Pro Bowl during their careers—Andrie did so on five occasions–and both appeared in the Super Bowl, albeit on the losing side.  Both players retired after the 1972 season.

Think Andrie actually scored a defensive TD in the Super Bowl.
Title: Re: Best Transfers OUT of MU
Post by: keefe on October 25, 2013, 03:58:20 PM
Quote from: warriorchick on October 25, 2013, 10:47:39 AM
Me gusta.

Ok, Chick, as a woman you can't say this guy is attractive, can you? What's with the "Come hither" look?

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/p480x480/482278_465711650164644_2116511639_n.jpg)


(https://scontent-a-sea.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash2/p480x480/528471_455132237889252_1228245628_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Transfers OUT of MU
Post by: 77ncaachamps on October 25, 2013, 04:59:23 PM
Quote from: Dan on October 25, 2013, 10:40:36 AM
Karl Kassulke

See, THIS is why I said Basketball.

Heck, he's probably nowhere near the best FB transfer: Frank Aschenbrenner, 1947 Rose Bowl MVP.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Aschenbrenner

(http://morevintagefootballautographs2.webs.com/aschenbrennerd.jpeg)
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