http://web.yesnetwork.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20130711&content_id=53326300&oid=0
Is that the one with gay/lesbian programming or the mormon one? I get all of these channels mixed up.
Quote from: ResidentBrown on July 11, 2013, 10:05:55 AM
Is that the one with gay/lesbian programming or the mormon one? I get all of these channels mixed up.
Same channel that has the Yankees. How can you possibly get mixed up when LOGO is your prime channel?
I'd like to see some games on Disney. They do well with basketball programming.
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Well that kinda sucks. I don't get YES, and I think most others in the midwest don't either, without some sort of premium package.
Hopefully these are just the St. Johns-Seton Hall-Providence etc. matchups.
Quote from: Bleuteaux on July 11, 2013, 10:43:18 AM
Well that kinda sucks. I don't get YES, and I think most others in the midwest don't either, without some sort of premium package.
Direct TV baby!!! (You're welcome Chicos.)
I get YES, but then again I live in Yankees broadcast territory.
Quote from: Bleuteaux on July 11, 2013, 10:43:18 AM
Well that kinda sucks. I don't get YES, and I think most others in the midwest don't either, without some sort of premium package.
Hopefully these are just the St. Johns-Seton Hall-Providence etc. matchups.
Wouldn't matter in Chicago anyways. It is a waste of a channel for games anyways, since any time Marquette happened to be playing the game would always be blacked out.
It doesn't say it is exclusive to YES. Aren't they probably just airing the FS1 feed?
Quote from: marquette20 on July 11, 2013, 10:52:19 AM
Wouldn't matter in Chicago anyways. It is a waste of a channel for games anyways, since any time Marquette happened to be playing the game would always be blacked out.
Games on YES were never blacked out for me (DTV).
Quote from: Bleuteaux on July 11, 2013, 10:43:18 AM
Well that kinda sucks. I don't get YES, and I think most others in the midwest don't either, without some sort of premium package.
Hopefully these are just the St. Johns-Seton Hall-Providence etc. matchups.
I live in Milwaukee, WI and have Time Warner Cable and I get YES. It might be part of a premier plan that would best be described as...channels people who like sports would watch.
IIRC you still must buy the Sports pack to get YES on D*
Quote from: Terror Skink on July 11, 2013, 10:48:26 AM
Direct TV baby!!! (You're welcome Chicos.)
Quote from: The Lens on July 11, 2013, 11:50:58 AM
I live in Milwaukee, WI and have Time Warner Cable and I get YES. It might be part of a premier plan that would best be described as...channels people who like sports would watch.
It's part of TWC Sports Pass ($8.99/month).
Quote from: TallTitan34 on July 11, 2013, 11:16:47 AM
It doesn't say it is exclusive to YES. Aren't they probably just airing the FS1 feed?
May very well be. I've watched MU games over the last few years that were broadcast on the Big East Network (according to the logo on the bottom of the screen), but another channel on Comcast in Chicago picked it up, thankfully.
Quote from: Terror Skink on July 11, 2013, 10:48:26 AM
Direct TV baby!!! (You're welcome Chicos.)
You got that right!
Quote from: Red Stripe on July 11, 2013, 12:23:52 PM
IIRC you still must buy the Sports pack to get YES on D*
Depends where you live. If you are outside the YES territory (which is zip code driven), then it is part of Sports Pack. If you are in the YES territory, then you are ok as long as you have CHOICE or above package. Below CHOICE it will not be included.
DISH doesn't carry YES. Not sure about the others.
Quote from: TallTitan34 on July 11, 2013, 11:16:47 AM
It doesn't say it is exclusive to YES. Aren't they probably just airing the FS1 feed?
I doubt that will be the case. Fox is a minority owner of YES and my guess is they have sold off some of their inventory to YES in this case so it will likely be the only place to see it. Now, if MU is involved, don't be surprised if it is also available in MU's home territory with TWC assuming such an arrangement exists again with TWC this year.
Just a hunch on my part, do not have the details yet to substantiate it.
Oh darn. Now I'll have to go out to bars to watch some games. I hate when that happens. I'll have to try to remember how to drink a beer. Or six.
I get the Yes Network, but the Nets and Yanks are blacked out.
Quote from: bradley center bat on July 11, 2013, 08:54:20 PM
I get the Yes Network, but the Nets and Yanks are blacked out.
Because you are not considered in the "in market" territory of the Nets or Yankees. There is the In Market, the Outer Market and the Out of Market designations when it comes to sports.
I get it. The "in market" can see the Yankees and Nets. The other markets do not. My question Chicos is: Would the markets that are blacked out also be blacked out for college basketball under the FS1 arrangement?
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on July 12, 2013, 12:36:30 AM
Because you are not considered in the "in market" territory of the Nets or Yankees. There is the In Market, the Outer Market and the Out of Market designations when it comes to sports.
What's the difference between "Outer market" and "out of market". Location of another team?
apparently Milwaukee has never been YES territory since I've only got YES when buying the Sports pack
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on July 11, 2013, 06:24:53 PM
Depends where you live. If you are outside the YES territory (which is zip code driven), then it is part of Sports Pack. If you are in the YES territory, then you are ok as long as you have CHOICE or above package. Below CHOICE it will not be included.
DISH doesn't carry YES. Not sure about the others.
All I know is for sure its not on RCN in Chicago and I'm fairly certain its not on Comcast either.
Quote from: muwarrior69 on July 12, 2013, 07:14:25 AM
I get it. The "in market" can see the Yankees and Nets. The other markets do not. My question Chicos is: Would the markets that are blacked out also be blacked out for college basketball under the FS1 arrangement?
No, they wouldn't be blacked out under the same guidelines as those particular blackouts are driven by the team territories designated by the NBA and MLB.
However, as mentioned earlier, if MU has a deal with TWC or someone else that does a special carveout for an additional blackout territory (think Milwaukee area) then that can come into play. I don't know what TWC's deal will be this year, but in the last few years they have had that protection in the Milwaukee area.
Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on July 12, 2013, 07:16:39 AM
What's the difference between "Outer market" and "out of market". Location of another team?
A team's designated are is often segmented like a concentric circle, or think of a target for an archer or marksman.
The inner market is the center circles and the outer market are the outside circles. Both the inner and outer market are both team territories, but they typically drive much different rates for television distributors.
As a concrete example, the Yankees in market territory would likely be NYC, surrounding suburbs, and perhaps 100 miles from Yankee stadium...this is just for illustrative purposes. I actually have maps on all this stuff, but let's just roughly. The outer market might be roughly mile 101 to mile 400 (again, illustrative...in many team areas it is nothing like this....Arizona Diamondbacks for example have most of the state of New Mexico as their outer market). In that outer market area, the rate or cost to the distributor is lower than the in market rate, but its also a territory that the distributor may not carry. The argument being that there aren't a lot of Nets fans in certain zip codes that are 400 miles away, for example.
Out of Market is anything not defined as "in market" or "outer market". So for a Nets or Yankees team, that would be Nebraska or California or Florida or you name it. Outside all of those circles. All games are blacked out in those areas unless you buy a Out of Market sports package like MLB Extra Inning or NBA League Pass. Without those out of market packages, the games cannot be seen in those areas. Conversely, if you did live in NYC and bought MLB Extra Innings, the game would be blacked out on that package and the viewer would have to watch the game "locally" on YES.
Hope that makes sense.
Quote from: Red Stripe on July 12, 2013, 07:38:30 AM
apparently Milwaukee has never been YES territory since I've only got YES when buying the Sports pack
Correct.
Here is a simple tool you can use, just put in your zip code and it will tell you what RSN is attached to your territory.
http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/global/contentPageIF.jsp?assetId=3450006
Quote from: marquette20 on July 11, 2013, 10:52:19 AM
Wouldn't matter in Chicago anyways. It is a waste of a channel for games anyways, since any time Marquette happened to be playing the game would always be blacked out.
I don't understand this, why would Marquette games on YES be blacked out in Milwaukee?
I understand the concept of a blackout, but here in Cincinnati, Xavier home games on Fox Sports Ohio don't get blacked out.
The only time sporting events in Cincinnati get blacked out are when the Bengals don't sell out their home games.
I guess I didn't realize that college basketball games also get blacked out.
So, I assume that if a Xavier game was on YES, then that game would be blacked out in Cincinnati?
This seems more to be a policy of the individual school rather than YES, correct?
I assume that if Fox Sports Ohio airs Xavier homes games in Cincinnati, then Xavier games on YES would not be blacked out in Cincinnati.
Quote from: dayton flyers on July 12, 2013, 10:32:00 AM
I don't understand this, why would Marquette games on YES be blacked out in Milwaukee?
I understand the concept of a blackout, but here in Cincinnati, Xavier home games on Fox Sports Ohio don't get blacked out.
The only time sporting events in Cincinnati get blacked out are when the Bengals don't sell out their home games.
I guess I didn't realize that college basketball games also get blacked out.
Could be blacked out in Milwaukee on YES, but picked up on the local Time Warner Sports Net. So it's not really blacked out, just on another channel....the catch is you have to have Time Warner Sports Net and not all systems have it. Basically it means Time Warner bought out a territory of exclusivity and they want the locals to watch it on their air, with their advertisers instead of watching it on YES. Prior to Time Warner Sports getting involved a few years ago, the game would not be blacked out on YES (or SNY, MSG, etc in years of the old Big East deal).
Quote from: dayton flyers on July 12, 2013, 10:36:05 AM
So, I assume that if a Xavier game was on YES, then that game would be blacked out in Cincinnati?
This seems more to be a policy of the individual school rather than YES, correct?
I assume that if Fox Sports Ohio airs Xavier homes games in Cincinnati, then Xavier games on YES would not be blacked out in Cincinnati.
Actually, no. This only has to do with the local rights purchase of Marquette games. All this being said, I'm going off what was the situation under the old Big East deal, I don't know what Time Warner's rights are with the new deal or with Fox \ YES, for that matter. I'm just guessing.
The Xavier example wouldn't be impacted unless FSO has a deal with Xavier that would tie in with the games on YES. Essentially they're trying to protect the local affiliate (I'm using that term loosely because FSO or TWC aren't an affiliate by the normal definition) and allow them to monetize the viewership and advertising eyeballs in the local area for which they purchased those rights.
so even if I subscribed to the Sports pack on D*, if TWC has their way it will still be blacked out on YES here
Quote from: Red Stripe on July 12, 2013, 12:13:11 PM
so even if I subscribed to the Sports pack on D*, if TWC has their way it will still be blacked out on YES here
Maybe, but based on the last few years it is possible. We'll have to see what the deal is this year.
Quote from: Jay Bee on July 11, 2013, 10:22:24 AM
I'd like to see some games on Disney. They do well with basketball programming.
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Yea, if they live in Palos Verdes for real, they are different! Their Daddy or Mommy or both has/have seven figure incomes!
Quote from: dgies9156 on July 12, 2013, 02:17:22 PM
Yea, if they live in Palos Verdes for real, they are different! Their Daddy or Mommy or both has/have seven figure incomes!
If they live at the bottom of the hill (Rancho Palos Verdes) you could get by with two six figure incomes.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on July 12, 2013, 04:55:42 PM
If they live at the bottom of the hill (Rancho Palos Verdes) you could get by with two six figure incomes.
Barely.
Best thing about Palos Verdes is proximity to LAX
Quote from: dgies9156 on July 12, 2013, 11:07:48 PM
Barely.
Best thing about Palos Verdes is proximity to LAX
You would be surprised. A lot of people from our office live in RPV and do it on a 6 figure income with one stay at home....most are the bottom of the hill but still considered RPV. Get to the top or over to Rolling Hills Estates, much more difficult. I know one guy at work that is renting over there just to get the kids in RPV schools.