Does anyone know if Van was invited to the NBA Combine?
Yep, he was.
Also one of 44 players invited to the big NBA workout in Brooklyn at the end of the month, presuming Chad Ford was rattling off all of the players invited.
Who's coming out and didn't get invited?
According to this list from Goodman, he was not invited to the Combine.
Ouch, if correct.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/blog/eye-on-college-basketball/22224907/nba-draft-combine-releases-list-of-participants
Looks like that's the case. I must have misheard/read when I saw he was getting ready for Brooklyn. Not good news.
Should have listened to those who know.
This has a to be real downer for the young fella. Keep working.....
Paint Touches @PaintTouches 6m
All 60 players drafted last year were at the Combine, were International or voluntarily declined a Combine invite. #mubb
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Josh Harrellson (45th overall), Lavoy Allen (50th), Jon Diebler (51st) and Vernon Macklin (52nd) didn't get Combine invites in '11.
I thought the recent play of Jimmy Butler, Jae Crowder and Wes Matthews may at least get him a look. I watch some NBA and I just don't see how Blue fits in. He'd have to be a PG, not a big need for 2Gs that can't shoot.
This is why the NCAA's rules are absolutely assanine.
Quote from: AWegrzyn17 on May 09, 2013, 07:01:55 PM
This is why the NCAA's rules are absolutely assanine.
You know what's assinine? Kids who have no chance at being drafted in the first round, if at all, holding their scholarship hostage while the spring signing period comes and goes.
The NCAA got it right this time. If Vander had listened to the right people, he would have known a month ago that his chances of getting a combine invite were minimal.
Quote from: Benny B on May 09, 2013, 07:14:48 PM
You know what's assinine? Kids who have no chance at being drafted in the first round, if at all, holding their scholarship hostage while the spring signing period comes and goes.
The NCAA got it right this time. If Vander had listened to the right people, he would have known a month ago that his chances of getting a combine invite were minimal.
If the kid has no shot at getting drafted wont he figure it out and come back or the coach can over recruit him and not renew his scholly. Please don't give me the poor coaches argument.
Quote from: AWegrzyn17 on May 09, 2013, 07:26:27 PM
If the kid has no shot at getting drafted wont he figure it out and come back or the coach can over recruit him and not renew his scholly. Please don't give me the poor coaches argument.
Poor (figurative) coaches? How about the poor (literal) HS kid who has to wait around for two months because his first choice "might or might not" have a scholarship available? Does he take the inferior scholarship at the school across the country? Does he hold out until the other kid "drops out of the draft" only to find that his second and third choice didn't wait on him?
Quote from: Benny B on May 09, 2013, 07:45:35 PM
Poor (figurative) coaches? How about the poor (literal) HS kid who has to wait around for two months because his first choice "might or might not" have a scholarship available? Does he take the inferior scholarship at the school across the country? Does he hold out until the other kid "drops out of the draft" only to find that his second and third choice didn't wait on him?
Funny how the NCAA doesn't seem to care about the damage done to HS kids by coaches up and leaving their programs for more $. This rule has one purpose, keep star players from declaring early so as to prop up talent levels in college, lets not kid ourselves.
Quote from: Pakuni on May 09, 2013, 06:06:32 PM
According to this list from Goodman, he was not invited to the Combine.
Ouch, if correct.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/blog/eye-on-college-basketball/22224907/nba-draft-combine-releases-list-of-participants
Disheartening.
Out of curiosity, how do the invitees get selected? Is there a certain specific number invited every year?
Edit: weird auto-fills from phone lately
Quote from: Jajuannaman on May 09, 2013, 09:01:07 PM
Disheartening. TJ Oztzelburger
Out of curiosity, how do the invitees get selected? Is there a certain specific number invited every year?
Maybe talent and potential. Just not working for Vander after he announced.
Quote from: nyg on May 09, 2013, 09:03:06 PM
Maybe talent and potential. Just not working for Vander after he announced.
At the very least, I think Vander should have taken Phil pressey's spot. They didnt even list vander as one of the key players not invited either. It's not looking good for him to get drafted. Maybe it will work out better for him like it did for Wes.
Quote from: nyg on May 09, 2013, 09:03:06 PM
Maybe talent and potential. Just not working for Vander after he announced.
Clearly talent and potential. But I mean literally what is the selection process. Who decides? A consortium of scouts? One person? Every team gets a representative and it goes to a vote?
And are something like 40 invites extended no matter what, or is it not cut & dry?
Quote from: Jajuannaman on May 09, 2013, 09:35:35 PM
Clearly talent and potential. But I mean literally what is the selection process. Who decides? A consortium of scouts? One person? Every team gets a representative and it goes to a vote?
And are something like 40 invites extended no matter what, or is it not cut & dry?
If I had to guess, there's probably some crossover between those who draw up the combine invite list and the NBA committee that advises early-entrants on their chances of being drafted.
http://nbadraft.net/nba-draft-combine-official-list-invites (http://nbadraft.net/nba-draft-combine-official-list-invites)
Blue listed as a top player not invited.
How the F is Adams from Pittsburgh invited??
Quote from: damuts222 on May 10, 2013, 10:25:08 AM
http://nbadraft.net/nba-draft-combine-official-list-invites (http://nbadraft.net/nba-draft-combine-official-list-invites)
Blue listed as a top player not invited.
How the F is Adams from Pittsburgh invited??
In fact, Vander is listed first. Of course, the list is in alphabetical order!
That list also includes Michael Snaer, whom most draft analysts rank higher than Vander.
Quote from: damuts222 on May 10, 2013, 10:25:08 AM
http://nbadraft.net/nba-draft-combine-official-list-invites (http://nbadraft.net/nba-draft-combine-official-list-invites)
Blue listed as a top player not invited.
How the F is Adams from Pittsburgh invited??
Because he's 7-feet tall.
Interesting that every guy on the top players not invited list is a senior except for Blue.
Quote from: Lacrosse218 on May 10, 2013, 10:54:29 AM
Interesting that every guy on the top players not invited list is a senior except for Blue.
EXACTLY!!! It appears Vander might take the 2013 award for "Worst Choice in Declaring," at least insofar as those handing out invites to the Combine know what they're doing...
Quote from: MUFlutieEffect on May 10, 2013, 11:11:59 AM
EXACTLY!!! It appears Vander might take the 2013 award for "Worst Choice in Declaring," at least insofar as those handing out invites to the Combine know what they're doing...
48 underclassmen declared. 36 underclassmen were invited.
I guess he's in better position than the 11 underclassmen who were left off the "left off" list, eh?
Quote from: Jajuannaman on May 09, 2013, 09:01:07 PM
Disheartening.
Out of curiosity, how do the invitees get selected? Is there a certain specific number invited every year?
Edit: weird auto-fills from phone lately
Per Chad Ford
NBA provides 30 teams with a ballot of a few hundred draft eligible players. Each team votes for 60 players & NBA tallies the votes.
In this case, the NBA got additional feedback from teams after the list was released and added Blue, Clyburn and Covingoton!!
Vander has been added to the combine according to a tweet from Brad Autry.
Quote from: damuts222 on May 10, 2013, 10:25:08 AM
http://nbadraft.net/nba-draft-combine-official-list-invites (http://nbadraft.net/nba-draft-combine-official-list-invites)
Blue listed as a top player not invited.
How the F is Adams from Pittsburgh invited??
Isn't that like the tallest midget thing?
Hey, all it takes is one GM to take a liking to Vander for him to get drafted. Sounds like maybe more than one team must've wanted to get a better look at him if he was requested to be added to the pre-draft camp.
There's actually a lot of players I;m surprised were left off - Elijah Johnson, Elias Harris, Oriakhi, Snaer, Triche, Boynton.
Quote from: Pakuni on May 10, 2013, 12:02:22 PM
Vander has been added to the combine according to a tweet from Brad Autry.
A little confused. So, does added mean invited? All I understand right now is he is on a best of the rest list--is that all it is or is it a supplemental invitation? Thx.
He'll be at the combine now.
Awesome, some good news.
I love all the people rushing in to hate when the initial news came out.
Quote from: Jajuannaman on May 10, 2013, 01:38:11 PM
Awesome, some good news.
I love all the people rushing in to hate when the initial news came out.
+10000
Quote from: Jajuannaman on May 10, 2013, 01:38:11 PM
Awesome, some good news.
I love all the people rushing in to hate when the initial news came out.
Just re-read every comment on this thread.
Not one was what I would call even remotely close to "hate."
Quote from: Aughnanure on May 10, 2013, 12:32:13 PM
There's actually a lot of players I;m surprised were left off - Elijah Johnson, Elias Harris, Oriakhi, Snaer, Triche, Boynton.
I'll rush in on the hate thing but direct it at Triche. I can't stand that guy and am happy that there is zero chance of him getting drafted.
Quote from: MU82 on May 10, 2013, 01:49:34 PM
Just re-read every comment on this thread.
Not one was what I would call even remotely close to "hate."
It's there...trust him...the hate is there and it runs very deep. Only a few can see it, but it is there
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on May 10, 2013, 02:09:51 PM
It's there...trust him...the hate is there and it runs very deep. Only a few can see it, but it is there
Before it manifested itself in rather spiteful criticism. Now it manifests itself in people never giving him the benefit of the doubt.
Blue has been the most criticized player I have ever seen at MU. Truthfully do not know anyone even close. I talk with anyone who will talk MU ball and aside from my sons have not spoken to five people in person not critical of Blue. To be honest I almost feel sorry for him that a large segment of his university fanbase thinks poorly of him. Obviously off court issues did not help, especially with female fans, but he never got over that with many people.
I do find it very ironic that a fanbase that jumps on other schools whenever given a chance has been so critical of one of their own. Vander Blue is far from our best player ever and further away from being our worst kid ever. I actually am happy he is leaving simply because tired of all the negative stuff about him on here or in conversations with fans.
Quote from: Goose on May 10, 2013, 02:27:15 PM
Blue has been the most criticized player I have ever seen at MU. Truthfully do not know anyone even close. I talk with anyone who will talk MU ball and aside from my sons have not spoken to five people in person not critical of Blue. To be honest I almost feel sorry for him that a large segment of his university fanbase thinks poorly of him. Obviously off court issues did not help, especially with female fans, but he never got over that with many people.
I do find it very ironic that a fanbase that jumps on other schools whenever given a chance has been so critical of one of their own. Vander Blue is far from our best player ever and further away from being our worst kid ever. I actually am happy he is leaving simply because tired of all the negative stuff about him on here or in conversations with fans.
DJames comes to mind. Never understood it either.
Quote from: MU82 on May 10, 2013, 01:49:34 PM
Just re-read every comment on this thread.
Not one was what I would call even remotely close to "hate."
Not just this thread dawg
Quote from: Goose on May 10, 2013, 02:27:15 PM
I actually am happy he is leaving simply because tired of all the negative stuff about him on here or in conversations with fans.
Dumb. Comment.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on May 10, 2013, 02:09:51 PM
It's there...trust him...the hate is there and it runs very deep. Only a few can see it, but it is there
Chicos... you've been in California way too long. You don't have to hate someone to disagree with something they said/did.
I'll happily go on record saying I think Vander made a poor decision by declaring early. That doesn't mean I hate the kid. That doesn't mean I don't want him to succeed. It only means that I think he made a poor decision.
Quote from: Goose on May 10, 2013, 02:27:15 PM
Blue has been the most criticized player I have ever seen at MU. Truthfully do not know anyone even close.
Scott Merritt?
Basketball wise Merritt is match, total package of player and person not even close.
Quote from: Goose on May 10, 2013, 02:27:15 PM
Blue has been the most criticized player I have ever seen at MU. Truthfully do not know anyone even close. I talk with anyone who will talk MU ball and aside from my sons have not spoken to five people in person not critical of Blue. To be honest I almost feel sorry for him that a large segment of his university fanbase thinks poorly of him. Obviously off court issues did not help, especially with female fans, but he never got over that with many people.
I do find it very ironic that a fanbase that jumps on other schools whenever given a chance has been so critical of one of their own. Vander Blue is far from our best player ever and further away from being our worst kid ever. I actually am happy he is leaving simply because tired of all the negative stuff about him on here or in conversations with fans.
I totally agree. It's a shame.
Quote from: Goose on May 10, 2013, 02:27:15 PM
Blue has been the most criticized player I have ever seen at MU. Truthfully do not know anyone even close.
"Spider" Mills?
Spider Mills....LOL.
Quote from: Terror Skink on May 10, 2013, 02:13:13 PM
Before it manifested itself in rather spiteful criticism. Now it manifests itself in people never giving him the benefit of the doubt.
So if I say that I don't think Vander made the right decision, I'm "hating" him?
If I wonder why Buzz made a certain substitution, I'm "hating" him?
If I say I believe a championship-caliber team needs a PG who can score, I'm "hating" Derrick Wilson?
Really? We can't just say something about somebody, can't opine, can't analyze without it being "hate"?
Jeesh ... I must
really hate my kids because I'm often offering suggestions about how they can be better at things.
I don't know about others' motivation. All I know is that I don't hate Vander Blue or any other athlete. I don't know any of them well enough to hate them. And when I looked at what was said in this particular comment stream, I didn't see hateful things. I guess I'm supposed to be able to read somebody's opinion and instantly determine if there is hate in that person's heart.
The way the word "hate" is thrown around so casually ...
that I hate!
Quote from: Goose on May 10, 2013, 02:27:15 PM
I actually am happy he is leaving simply because tired of all the negative stuff about him on here or in conversations with fans.
Amen, Goose. Those mocking him for his decision to leave will be the most vocal applauding him when he finds professional success.
Nobody hates Vander.
Stop being so retarded.
I said criticized, not hated.
Quote from: Pakuni on May 10, 2013, 04:12:52 PM
Nobody hates Vander.
Stop being so retarded.
I don't think hate is the right word but Vander himself cited the hostility and criticism of him, including from the Marquette community, in post announcement interviews. If he feels it then there is something to it.
Quote from: Goose on May 10, 2013, 02:27:15 PM
Blue has been the most criticized player I have ever seen at MU. Truthfully do not know anyone even close. I talk with anyone who will talk MU ball and aside from my sons have not spoken to five people in person not critical of Blue. To be honest I almost feel sorry for him that a large segment of his university fanbase thinks poorly of him. Obviously off court issues did not help, especially with female fans, but he never got over that with many people.
Maybe it's because he has a lower ceiling than Vander but Junior Cadougan has been the target of love-hate over his 4 years in Blue and Gold.
Quote from: leever on May 10, 2013, 03:42:23 PM
"Spider" Mills?
Marcus Washington was right up there too. There was a collective sigh in the arena every time he took a shot.
77champs
Junior got toasted, but the person was always praised. It really is not worthy a debate of how Vander was accepted in MU community over his three years here. IMO some thought he was a thug, which is ironic because those closest to him at MU have very different opinion. Tough kid that built a wall around himself for protection and behind the wall is intelligent, good kid.
Leever
No one player has ever been questioned more than Blue. Read the threads and see the comments. They range from mildly funny to downright mean. I do not think anybody wished Marcus Washington ill upon his departure. Am glad you mentioned Marcus though, it was more of a yell "don't shot the ball" from my row when he touched it. That said, similar to Junior, I can say I appreciate his time at MU and wished him best of luck.
Quote from: Marqevans on May 10, 2013, 05:18:23 PM
Marcus Washington was right up there too. There was a collective sigh in the arena every time he took a shot.
Thing with Marcus is that it was about his offensive skills and not his person. Also, he didn't have the albatross of the internet. Just a bunch of drunks in the student section.
Quote from: Benny B on May 10, 2013, 02:36:58 PM
Chicos... you've been in California way too long. You don't have to hate someone to disagree with something they said/did.
I'll happily go on record saying I think Vander made a poor decision by declaring early. That doesn't mean I hate the kid. That doesn't mean I don't want him to succeed. It only means that I think he made a poor decision.
;) I know....I'll use teal next time. I agree with you entirely....too many times here if you disagree with someone or something one is labeled as a hater of Buzz, hater of VB, hater of <Fill in Blank> We are on the same page.
This fan base is Bi-Polar lol
Quote from: Goose on May 10, 2013, 02:27:15 PM
Blue has been the most criticized player I have ever seen at MU. Truthfully do not know anyone even close.
One name comes to mind. Richard Shaw.
Student section used to chant "Shaw's a b**ch!" That's some stone cold s**t from the home fans. I don't remember anything remotely close to that with Vander.
BTW, great news on the combine. Love Vander. He will absolutely shine at the combine. He will be drafted. I hope he sticks in the NBA.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on May 10, 2013, 06:29:17 PM
;) I know....I'll use teal next time. I agree with you entirely....too many times here if you disagree with someone or something one is labeled as a hater of Buzz, hater of VB, hater of <Fill in Blank>
Blank = Tom Crean, often.
Goose, Skink, Keefe, Chicos....
You are spot on. Bottom line, these guys are nothing more than kids/young adults, who happen to be really, really good at a sport. At the end of the day, put aside the BBall piece, they are just like our own kids. Let's not forget that.
It's easy for all of us to view these KIDS as some sort of elite.....and judge them based on their ability to win "for us". Guilty as charged.
Vander is a young man trying to make his way in the world as best he can with the gifts he was born with. Good luck Vander!
Quote from: real chili 83 on May 10, 2013, 08:47:22 PM
Goose, Skink, Keefe, Chicos....
You are spot on. Bottom line, these guys are nothing more than kids/young adults, who happen to be really, really good at a sport. At the end of the day, put aside the BBall piece, they are just like our own kids. Let's not forget that.
It's easy for all of us to view these KIDS as some sort of elite.....and judge them based on their ability to win "for us". Guilty as charged.
Vander is a young man trying to make his way in the world as best he can with the gifts he was born with. Good luck Vander!
When I showed up at Marquette I had no idea what I wanted from life. As a 17 year old my horizon was dime taps at the Lanche and trying to find short-term female companionship. I had a vague notion that flying jets would be fun thing to do but getting drunk and laid were more compelling.
Vander Blue had a far more focused view of life. From the moment he set on campus he knew he wanted to go the NBA. And over the next few years he gave us some of the best memories any of us will ever have of Marquette basketball.
Dwyane Wade was the better player at Marquette but Vander Blue gave us one of the most singular thrilling moments from any sport. If I live to be 100 I will never forget Whitehead's basket against UNCC and Vander's lay-in against Davidson. I will always thank him for that moment.
Quote from: keefe on May 10, 2013, 09:11:06 PM
When I showed up at Marquette I had no idea what I wanted from life. As a 17 year old my horizon was dime taps at the Lanche and trying to find short-term female companionship. I had a vague notion that flying jets would be fun thing to do but getting drunk and laid were more compelling.
Vander Blue had a far more focused view of life. From the moment he set on campus he knew he wanted to go the NBA. And over the next few years he gave us some of the best memories any of us will ever have of Marquette basketball.
Dwyane Wade was the better player at Marquette but Vander Blue gave us one of the most singular thrilling moments from any sport. If I live to be 100 I will never forget Whitehead's basket against UNCC and Vander's lay-in against Davidson. I will always thank him for that moment.
Worst post ever. What were you thinking.
You left out nickel beer night at Good Time Charlie's.
;)
Quote from: real chili 83 on May 10, 2013, 09:16:13 PM
Worst post ever. What were you thinking.
You left out nickel beer night at Good Time Charlie's.
;)
How silly of me. On my death bed it will be Whitehead's bucket, Vander's lay-in, and nickel beer night at Charlie's!
Quote from: Goose on May 10, 2013, 02:27:15 PM
Blue has been the most criticized player I have ever seen at MU. Truthfully do not know anyone even close. I talk with anyone who will talk MU ball and aside from my sons have not spoken to five people in person not critical of Blue. To be honest I almost feel sorry for him that a large segment of his university fanbase thinks poorly of him. Obviously off court issues did not help, especially with female fans, but he never got over that with many people.
I do find it very ironic that a fanbase that jumps on other schools whenever given a chance has been so critical of one of their own. Vander Blue is far from our best player ever and further away from being our worst kid ever. I actually am happy he is leaving simply because tired of all the negative stuff about him on here or in conversations with fans.
I'm not sure I understand this. Isn't jumping on other schools and being critical of one's own just being consistent?
Little Murs
Understand your confusion. My point is simply that it seems on here that some are very critical of other schools or players and aside from Blue have blinders on when it comes to our kids. I look at responses that we make about ither programs or kids and cringe from time to time. That said, it seems that Blue fell more into opposing program mindest than one of our own.
I think we can take the game to seriously and thus we criticise players for not being as good on the court as we want them to be. I know I have been guilty of that. However, I do not criticise players like Derrick Wilson, because he does not make bad on court decisions. Blue his first two years would consistently make bad on court decisions and I was very critical of that.
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on May 10, 2013, 10:36:46 AM
Because he's 7-feet tall.
Plus 1 million. That was a no brainer. And he will probably get signed after the draft--probably even drafted.
I don't think Vander is even close to the most critiqued player. I thought he struggled mightily at times, but most everybody acknowledged his enormous improvement. For my money, guys like James and Merritt were much more criticized. I hope Blue succeeds, I just happen to think he made a bad decision. He's proven me wrong before.
Quote from: keefe on May 10, 2013, 04:05:58 PM
Amen, Goose. Those mocking him for his decision to leave will be the most vocal applauding him when he finds professional success.
To the contrary, I hope he succeeds and will applaud any success he has....still think it wasn't a great decision on his part. I'm not sure who is out there mocking the decision, but certainly many of us think it was the wrong decision. Are the two the same? Can one question the decision without mocking? I think so.
Quote from: keefe on May 10, 2013, 04:26:52 PM
I don't think hate is the right word but Vander himself cited the hostility and criticism of him, including from the Marquette community, in post announcement interviews. If he feels it then there is something to it.
I share this on the Jsonline forum and in here... It was obvious to me why he left. He nailed those 3 games...and was in the right place at the right time. It worked for him...
IMO, In this order.
#1. He was tired of the fans and the criticism
#2. Did not want to risk a strike three incident of some kind killing his dream
#3. Did not want to go to class anymore and deal with whispers
#4. Factored in a weak draft this year
#5. Factored in a strong recruiting class and guys taking up his shots and shine
#6. Factored in his friends Juan and Junior leaving [Feared Leadership, Support]
He said that he prayed about and met with his family and whatnot and maybe he did. But I am sure these had to play a HUGE PART in his decision making. He didn't take very long, so to me this was on his mind all season from January on...
For me:
#7. Did not want to be a leader to this young group coming in and increase his stock and make a real run to the Final Four or the Title Game.
A pity.
I am sure he knew if he came back the team would have been great. He knew that but he knew Buzz would be harder on him than ever as I noticed time again that is what he kept saying, "Buzz was very hard on me..."He probably got tired of that too as he is a very stubborn and strong willed kid it seems to me. Yu have to coach him in a certain way.
Buzz probably coached him in a way where he thought, "damn if I am going to be rode like a horse like this, and hear it from the fans and then have all eyes on me waiting for me to slip I might as well get paid doing it!..." And just left.
Now that is just my impressions, that might not be what he is thinking at all. But it is how it seems to me. Honestly he did the right thing and what he wanted. He should have only come back here if he was fully committed and he would not have been.
I regret not having Blue, D. Wilson, D.Burton, J. Wilson and J. McKay on the floor at the same time next year playing in the Tournament and being on the floor in a Final Four game all from "the City" and Winconsin!
Man that would have been sweet as it gets for me...a tearjerker as I am a big fan of In State kids making it Big so I wish him well. I would have loved to have see that. Fans can dream too you know...but that is gone so we move on.
Quote from: Benny B on May 10, 2013, 02:36:58 PM
Chicos... you've been in California way too long. You don't have to hate someone to disagree with something they said/did.
I'll happily go on record saying I think Vander made a poor decision by declaring early. That doesn't mean I hate the kid. That doesn't mean I don't want him to succeed. It only means that I think he made a poor decision.
Draft class wise...no he didn't. I wish fan would stop saying that. On the business end, no he didn't make the wrong decision for how he played in the Tournament and what his team did and what kind of draft class is coming out to make it advantageous for him.
I only hoped he stayed for fan selfish reasons. I wanted to see all 5 Wi guys on the court just once... and be there to see that.
But he made the right decision. The holes in his game he can work on with an NBA, or he can take the path of Wesley Matthews and not get drafted and go to the right team.
I am sure he considered that a great deal. He made the right decision if he was getting harassed and ridiculed in the Community as I see now as that being the case.
If this deep seated resentment and hostility is real then he did well to leave now as a player and as a person.
I am sure he regrets much of what went down off the court and he knew no matter what he did or said it would never be enough to some MU faithful so why bother if he was not getting paid for it?
And he's right. I bet he did want to risk any of that again and walk on pins and needles another year. He's what 20? Who wants to go through that? Do you?
He'll be fine. I might check in with him and see if everything is ok. Good kid.
Quote from: Lacrosse218 on May 10, 2013, 10:54:29 AM
Interesting that every guy on the top players not invited list is a senior except for Blue.
That is what is wrong with the NBA right now too many underclassmen in it. That is why teams don't win in the NBA.
It's ridiculous. You have to hire coaches to teach what they should have learned in college.
And the 6-9 year vets get pushed out of a job and down to the D-League so teams can play a hotshot lottery pick or second round pick ahead of them.
Then they fire the coach for losing...and then there are horsecrap teams who back into the playoffs under .500 with half filled arena's.
Hopefully when Stern retires Silver will bring some sanity back into the NBA and not admit anyone under 21!! I dont care who it is! Or how good or hyped up they are.
Let them play two years mandatory in college and then go to the D-league if they come out their Junior year and wait until they are 20 and 10 months old to come into the NBA draft.
Then College has no one and done's and the D-League is fortified and the NBA brand and product is better with mature men coming in and not babies taking veterans spots.
And no more bad basketball.
Bingo
Quote from: MUHoopsFan2 on May 13, 2013, 02:05:07 AMor he can take the path of Wesley Matthews and not get drafted and go to the right team.
Yeah, pinning hopes on what amounts to a freak confluence of events is probably a bad idea.