Nice article in this mornings JS about Duane, who is player of the year, and his fellow first team all staters. Can't wait to see his contribution next season. Banner times for WI HS BB players.
Quote from: ATWizJr on April 10, 2013, 07:52:45 AM
Nice article in this mornings JS about Duane, who is player of the year, and his fellow first team all staters. Can't wait to see his contribution next season. Banner times for WI HS BB players.
Lemme get that for ya.
http://www.jsonline.com/sports/preps/whitefish-bay-dominicans-duane-wilson-at-head-of-allarea-class-ig9fl8h-202244051.html
Quote from: reinko on April 10, 2013, 07:55:42 AM
Lemme get that for ya.
http://www.jsonline.com/sports/preps/whitefish-bay-dominicans-duane-wilson-at-head-of-allarea-class-ig9fl8h-202244051.html
Thanks man. Not too computer literate over heeyah.
Who here knows Stone's true height? That picture makes him look closer to 6'8 than 6'10
Of the five in this picture ....
Duane Wilson - MU bound
Jamaar McKay - Brother of MU recruit Jaymeel McKay
Kevon Looney - MU target
Diamond Stone - MU target
So where is Deonte Burton?
Quote from: LAZER on April 10, 2013, 08:28:18 AM
Who here knows Stone's true height? That picture makes him look closer to 6'8 than 6'10
He definitely looks more than 2 inches shorter than Fischer, but does look taller than Looney, who is listed at 6-8.
My favorite Duane Wilson stat from the story:
"He averaged 23.8 points, 4.7 assists and 4.5 rebounds. He made 61% (218 of 357) of his shots, including an impressive 55% (55 of 100) from three-point range. "
The NCAA 3-point line is only a tad farther out. Even if he only does three-fourths as well in college, that's 41%.
Not that we desperately need 3-point shooting or anything.
Quote from: MU82 on April 10, 2013, 08:35:50 AM
My favorite Duane Wilson stat from the story:
"He averaged 23.8 points, 4.7 assists and 4.5 rebounds. He made 61% (218 of 357) of his shots, including an impressive 55% (55 of 100) from three-point range. "
The NCAA 3-point line is only a tad farther out. Even if he only does three-fourths as well in college, that's 41%.
Not that we desperately need 3-point shooting or anything.
Mmmmmmhmmm..... that's some ubertraditional shooting right there. Watch his videos, he has perfect form and balance off the catch and the bounce. Yet there are some still opining for a shooter... I wonder why they aren't ecstatic that Duane is already joining the fold. Curious as to why they aren't singing Buzz' praises for brining in a shooter they've been harping on for years. Very curious indeed.
Duane Wilson will be an absolute star on the collegiate level.
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on April 10, 2013, 08:32:54 AM
Of the five in this picture ....
Duane Wilson - MU bound
Jamaar McKay - Brother of MU recruit Jaymeel McKay
Kevon Looney - MU target
Diamond Stone - MU target
So where is Deonte Burton?
Burton didn't really have a stellar year this year. Part of it is that he had nothing around him at Vincent.
Duane brings DJames athleticism (40" vertical, tomahawk jams in traffic) with some added height and a picture-perfect J. Not to mention he appears to possess the DJames swagger needed to get minutes from day 1. Get him to D up like senior year DJames and we have an all-time great on our hands before it's all said and done. Really excited to have him in the mix next year.
Have not seen this fellow play, but by most accounts, he is a stud, and we need the 3 point shooting. He must start.
This would be my starting line-up/depth chart next year, assuming Blue comes back
PG: Du. Wilson/De. Wilson/Dawson
2G: Blue/JJJ/Mayo
C: Otule/Gardner/McKay
PF: Gardner/Taylor/Mckay
WF: J.Wilson/Burton/Anderson
I know, I know, people will holler that Gardner cannot play PF, but IMO we need Gardner playing minimum of 25 to 30 minutes per game--his offense and FT shooting are very important
Du. Wilson also must start 39 points in the Elite 8 game shows we need more offense, which is why Du. Wilson and Gardner must play a lot. How Buzz keeps all these guys happy with minutes will be a challenge, indeed. Guys like Taylor and McKay, as well as Anderson and Burton will want more time.
Quote from: Terror Skink on April 10, 2013, 08:46:45 AM
Burton didn't really have a stellar year this year. Part of it is that he had nothing around him at Vincent.
Vincent also had very poor coaching.
Quote from: willie warrior on April 10, 2013, 09:22:21 AM
I know, I know, people will holler that Gardner cannot play PF, but IMO we need Gardner playing minimum of 25 to 30 minutes per game--his offense and FT shooting are very important
I think Gardner can and should play some power forward. He is an effective shooter from mid range with soft touch and I liked what I saw when he played facing the basket in the high post.
Quote from: willie warrior on April 10, 2013, 09:22:21 AM
Have not seen this fellow play, but by most accounts, he is a stud, and we need the 3 point shooting. He must start.
This would be my starting line-up/depth chart next year, assuming Blue comes back
PG: Du. Wilson/De. Wilson/Dawson
2G: Blue/JJJ/Mayo
C: Otule/Gardner/McKay
PF: Gardner/Taylor/Mckay
WF: J.Wilson/Burton/Anderson
I know, I know, people will holler that Gardner cannot play PF, but IMO we need Gardner playing minimum of 25 to 30 minutes per game--his offense and FT shooting are very important
Du. Wilson also must start 39 points in the Elite 8 game shows we need more offense, which is why Du. Wilson and Gardner must play a lot. How Buzz keeps all these guys happy with minutes will be a challenge, indeed. Guys like Taylor and McKay, as well as Anderson and Burton will want more time.
A lot of "musts" here. If Buzz doesn't listen to you, I guess you'll have to find a program with a coach who will.
As for Duane Wilson starting, I am hoping he shows enough early on to gain Buzz's trust. We know Buzz is a very loyal guy and he already is on record saying Derrick will start next year. A couple of best-case scenarios for Duane:
1. Derrick starts but Duane gets 10-15 minutes spelling him and learning how to play college point as well as another 10-15 minutes as a spot-up 3-point shooter in the same backcourt as Vander and Derrick.
2. Buzz starts Derrick but it soon becomes obvious that Duane is the better option. Duane then gets Junior minutes while Derrick goes back to getting the kind of minutes Derrick is used to.
3. Vander leaves. That departure, along with those of Junior and Lockett (and Mayo?), open up lots of P.T. at guard, meaning Duane, JJJ and Derrick all see plenty of action simultaneously.
4. Vander leaves and Duane and JJJ are so dynamic together that Buzz can't resist giving them the majority of minutes to go with mature frontcourt men such as Gardner, Otule, Jamil, Taylor, Juan and JC transfer McKay.
Quote from: hairyworthen on April 10, 2013, 09:35:02 AM
I think Gardner can and should play some power forward. He is an effective shooter from mid range with soft touch and I liked what I saw when he played facing the basket in the high post.
Who's he going to guard?
Quote from: Terror Skink on April 10, 2013, 09:50:37 AMWho's he going to guard?
Probably only works if we play some zone or against teams without particularly athletic frontcourts that can step out.
Quote from: Terror Skink on April 10, 2013, 09:50:37 AM
Who's he going to guard?
You're likely looking at going zone with both Otule and Gardner on the floor. Not sure that would be playing to MU's strengths though.
I played with Duane Wilson when he was a freshmen and I was a senior at Dominican and knew he would be a great player. He is a gym rat with a great dad who pushes him to becoming a better basketball player. I think he will be the best PG Marquette will see in a long time
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on April 10, 2013, 09:53:49 AM
You're likely looking at going zone with both Otule and Gardner on the floor. Not sure that would be playing to MU's strengths though.
Exactly. And I'm not sure why you would want to mess with the minutes at the center position anyway...there is so much talent at the wing position.
Quote from: Tommypop on April 10, 2013, 09:54:11 AM
I played with Duane Wilson when he was a freshmen and I was a senior at Dominican and knew he would be a great player. He is a gym rat with a great dad who pushes him to becoming a better basketball player. I think he will be the best PG Marquette will see in a long time
Thanks for the insight, Tommy. Here's hoping Duane is all that and more!!
Not only is a stud at basketball, but he wants to major in something other than communications. Thats just a huge plus in my eyes. He's gonna be a great role model in general, glad to have him at MU.
I feel like we're maturing as a fanbase a bit. When Vander signed I know quite a few folks who acted like the resurrection of our program was on his shoulders (I was also a little guilty of over-hyping him)... the result was some weird disappointment on a young kid who has delivered the most memorable MU moments since D-Wade, and in my opinion will likely play pro ball after next year.
Point being we are all super excited for this new class (our most talented to date by far) and without the weird hyped up expectations.... it'll be a ton of fun to watch them as freshman and see them develop at MU
(http://media.jrn.com/images/660*599/31327095-mjs_allarea10-_spt-_porter-_1_allarea10.jpg)
Quote from: TallTitan34 on April 10, 2013, 12:46:17 PM
(http://media.jrn.com/images/660*599/31327095-mjs_allarea10-_spt-_porter-_1_allarea10.jpg)
Stone also seems to not have any legs here. thats a concern.
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on April 10, 2013, 08:32:54 AM
Of the five in this picture ....
Duane Wilson - MU bound
Jamaar McKay - Brother of MU recruit Jaymeel McKay
Kevon Looney - MU target
Diamond Stone - MU target
So where is Deonte Burton?
Burton was 2nd Team.
Is Jameel's brother going anywhere next year to play? I haven't seen anything about him as far as colleges are concerned.
Quote from: cbowe3 on April 10, 2013, 12:54:31 PM
Is Jameel's brother going anywhere next year to play? I haven't seen anything about him as far as colleges are concerned.
Let's hope it's JUCO or prep then Marquette
Quote from: hairyworthen on April 10, 2013, 12:44:39 PM
Well, then there's that
If they have to play some zone, so be it. Syracuse has done pretty well with it. And please do not say that Syracuse plays zone because of their length. I believe we will have plenty of length: Otule, J. Wilson, JJJ, McKay, Blue, Du. Wilson, Taylor, etc.
Quote from: willie warrior on April 10, 2013, 09:22:21 AM
Have not seen this fellow play, but by most accounts, he is a stud, and we need the 3 point shooting. He must start.
This would be my starting line-up/depth chart next year, assuming Blue comes back
PG: Du. Wilson/De. Wilson/Dawson
2G: Blue/JJJ/Mayo
C: Otule/Gardner/McKay
PF: Gardner/Taylor/Mckay
WF: J.Wilson/Burton/Anderson
I know, I know, people will holler that Gardner cannot play PF, but IMO we need Gardner playing minimum of 25 to 30 minutes per game--his offense and FT shooting are very important
Du. Wilson also must start 39 points in the Elite 8 game shows we need more offense, which is why Du. Wilson and Gardner must play a lot. How Buzz keeps all these guys happy with minutes will be a challenge, indeed. Guys like Taylor and McKay, as well as Anderson and Burton will want more time.
More like this:
Point Guard: Derrick/Vander/Duane/Dawson
2-4 (top 3 "start", the rest listed by minutes): Vander, Jamil, Juan, Taylor, McKay, JJJ, Duane, Todd, Burton
Center: Otule/Gardner
I have Burton as seeing the 2nd least amount of minutes on the team next year. My lord could this team be deep/talented. Burton will be a stud someday, but I have a feeling he will take a year or 2 to really develop (it seems like he is dominant in high school because he is just more physical than everyone, which won't be the case in high level division 1 basketball. Once he develops a consistent jumper, look out).
And we could be LOOOONG! Just think, a few years ago we were going with lineups of Acker (5'8", generously), Cubillan (6', generously), DJO (6'2"), Butler (6'6"), Hayward (6'6"). Next year we could legitimately see a lineup of Blue (6'4"), JJJ (6'5"), Wilson (6'7"), McKay (6'8"), OTule (6'10").
Should be a fun ride.
Quote from: cbowe3 on April 10, 2013, 12:54:31 PM
Is Jameel's brother going anywhere next year to play? I haven't seen anything about him as far as colleges are concerned.
I haven't heard anything either. He's had nice showings both in the high school and AAU showings, so I would have though he would have some offers. He's in some high company in this picture, all other 4 will be going to high majors. Would have thought he would at least have had some offers from some mid-majors. Maybe the sites just haven't updated his recruiting info.
I think Jamaar is more a Horizon League type prospect. He doesn't have the height of his brother, doesn't have elite athleticism, his handle is pretty average, and his shot takes some time to get off. Five years ago I would have supported MU giving him a shot because he does have a scorer's instinct, but MU can reel in bigger fish at this point.
For the life of me I can't understand why Looney and Stone would not want to come to Marquette. I understand that it's hard to turn down the elite programs, but with the group Marquette already has they could be part of something extremely special. Just imagine the possibility of all these local players coming together to play on a top 5 team at the local university. They would be legends forever. Imagine it's 2015-2016 and you have a core of the following:
Stone - Fr
Looney - So
Dawson - Jr
JJJ - Jr
Du. Wilson - Jr
Burton - Jr
Taylor Jr - Sr
And that is only half the roster! Who knows what else Buzz will add by that point. It just makes too much sense.
Quote from: Farley36 on April 11, 2013, 12:35:46 AM
For the life of me I can't understand why Looney and Stone would not want to come to Marquette. I understand that it's hard to turn down the elite programs, but with the group Marquette already has they could be part of something extremely special. Just imagine the possibility of all these local players coming together to play on a top 5 team at the local university. They would be legends forever. Imagine it's 2015-2016 and you have a core of the following:
Stone - Fr
Looney - So
Dawson - Jr
JJJ - Jr
Du. Wilson - Jr
Burton - Jr
Taylor Jr - Sr
And that is only half the roster! Who knows what else Buzz will add by that point. It just makes too much sense.
You can't understand because your selfish! This is every Marquette fans dream. However, there are better places to go than Marquette or being stuck in Milwaukee. That's just the reality of it.
Looney and Stone will consider National exposure, better education, and greater opportunities elsewhere. It would be unrealistic to expect them to take the hometown discount, so that they could play with each other for something special. It would just be a Milwaukee/Wisconsin story for the most part. It would be like the Fab 5 Hype or what UK has going on next year.
I really hope Buzz lands these two. I will go even further and say that I would love for us to consistently get the top Chicago recruits too. Could you imagine getting a Jahill Oakafor, Jabari Parker, Quincy Miller, etc. on a consistent basis? However, thats just not the reality of it.
Quote from: Rockmic87 on April 11, 2013, 12:57:36 AM
You can't understand because your selfish! This is every Marquette fans dream. However, there are better places to go than Marquette or being stuck in Milwaukee. That's just the reality of it.
Looney and Stone will consider National exposure, better education, and greater opportunities elsewhere. It would be unrealistic to expect them to take the hometown discount, so that they could play with each other for something special. It would just be a Milwaukee/Wisconsin story for the most part. It would be like the Fab 5 Hype or what UK has going on next year.
I really hope Buzz lands these two. I will go even further and say that I would love for us to consistently get the top Chicago recruits too. Could you imagine getting a Jahill Oakafor, Jabari Parker, Quincy Miller, etc. on a consistent basis? However, thats just not the reality of it.
Correction:It wouldn't be like the Fab 5 Hype or what UK has going on next year.
Quote from: wadesworld on April 10, 2013, 04:22:49 PM
More like this:
Point Guard: Derrick/Vander/Duane/Dawson
2-4 (top 3 "start", the rest listed by minutes): Vander, Jamil, Juan, Taylor, McKay, JJJ, Duane, Todd, Burton
Center: Otule/Gardner
I have Burton as seeing the 2nd least amount of minutes on the team next year. My lord could this team be deep/talented. Burton will be a stud someday, but I have a feeling he will take a year or 2 to really develop (it seems like he is dominant in high school because he is just more physical than everyone, which won't be the case in high level division 1 basketball. Once he develops a consistent jumper, look out).
And we could be LOOOONG! Just think, a few years ago we were going with lineups of Acker (5'8", generously), Cubillan (6', generously), DJO (6'2"), Butler (6'6"), Hayward (6'6"). Next year we could legitimately see a lineup of Blue (6'4"), JJJ (6'5"), Wilson (6'7"), McKay (6'8"), OTule (6'10").
Should be a fun ride.
McKay is 6'9", if not 6'10".
How the heck did Crean talk Fischer out of the opportunity to star in the "swing offense"?
Quote from: Rockmic87 on April 11, 2013, 12:57:36 AM
You can't understand because your selfish! This is every Marquette fans dream. However, there are better places to go than Marquette or being stuck in Milwaukee. That's just the reality of it.
Looney and Stone will consider National exposure, better education, and greater opportunities elsewhere. It would be unrealistic to expect them to take the hometown discount, so that they could play with each other for something special. It would just be a Milwaukee/Wisconsin story for the most part. It would be like the Fab 5 Hype or what UK has going on next year.
I really hope Buzz lands these two. I will go even further and say that I would love for us to consistently get the top Chicago recruits too. Could you imagine getting a Jahill Oakafor, Jabari Parker, Quincy Miller, etc. on a consistent basis? However, thats just not the reality of it.
Yikes, good thing you aren't doing the recruiting. I choose to live in Milwaukee and I don't feel like I am "stuck" here
Quote from: Farley36 on April 11, 2013, 12:35:46 AM
For the life of me I can't understand why Looney and Stone would not want to come to Marquette. I understand that it's hard to turn down the elite programs, but with the group Marquette already has they could be part of something extremely special. Just imagine the possibility of all these local players coming together to play on a top 5 team at the local university. They would be legends forever. Imagine it's 2015-2016 and you have a core of the following:
Stone - Fr
Looney - So
Dawson - Jr
JJJ - Jr
Du. Wilson - Jr
Burton - Jr
Taylor Jr - Sr
And that is only half the roster! Who knows what else Buzz will add by that point. It just makes too much sense.
Before Looney steps on campus, Otule and Gardner will have graduated. During his formative years he's seen guys his height (and somewhat shorter) play center for MU, like Maymon, Lazar and Jae. He wants to play on the perimeter in college. So, if I was Kevon, I wouldn't look at Marquette until Buzz gets a commitment from at least one and preferably two bigs in the 2014 class.
Quote from: Farley36 on April 11, 2013, 12:35:46 AM
For the life of me I can't understand why Looney and Stone would not want to come to Marquette. I understand that it's hard to turn down the elite programs, but with the group Marquette already has they could be part of something extremely special. Just imagine the possibility of all these local players coming together to play on a top 5 team at the local university. They would be legends forever. Imagine it's 2015-2016 and you have a core of the following:
Stone - Fr
Looney - So
Dawson - Jr
JJJ - Jr
Du. Wilson - Jr
Burton - Jr
Taylor Jr - Sr
And that is only half the roster! Who knows what else Buzz will add by that point. It just makes too much sense.
Some people just don't want to stay "home" for college. As somebody who traveled 1,000 miles to go to MU sight-unseen, it's hard for me to criticize anybody who wants to experience a different part of the country. The fact that there is great basketball in those different places is just a bonus to them.
Selfishly, I hope the guys stay but I don't blame any kid for wanting to leave home.
Quote from: MU82 on April 11, 2013, 10:37:11 AM
As somebody who traveled 1,000 miles to go to MU sight-unseen...
I traveled nearly 7,500 miles to go to MU sight unseen. The first time I saw MU was when I rolled up in cab.
Quote from: StillAWarrior on April 11, 2013, 10:42:11 AM
I traveled nearly 7,500 miles to go to MU sight unseen. The first time I saw MU was when I rolled up in cab.
We both must have been insane!
It worked out great for me, though, and I hope you can say the same.
Quote from: MU82 on April 11, 2013, 10:44:36 AM
We both must have been insane!
It worked out great for me, though, and I hope you can say the same.
You guys can say you have something in common with Jimmy B, Jae C, & DJO! Worked out for everyone
I like how we not only refuse to look at a player's side when making a college decision, we also assumes he wants to stay for 2 years on a rebuilding team.
With all these top recruits coming in, MU or should I say Buzz may have a problem. How will he spread those minutes? Who will ride the bench? Everyone coming in is expected to contribute. No unknowns like Ferguson.
Quote from: StillAWarrior on April 11, 2013, 10:42:11 AM
I traveled nearly 7,500 miles to go to MU sight unseen. The first time I saw MU was when I rolled up in cab.
I traveled only 68 miles to go to MU, but the first time I ever set foot on campus was when my parents dropped me off in front of Schroeder Hall. Looking back, more than a little bizarre.
Quote from: martyconlonontherun on April 11, 2013, 11:18:33 AM
I like how we not refuse to look at a player's side when making a college decision, we also assumes he wants to stay for 2 years on a rebuilding team.
Returning Duane, JJJ, Burton, ST2, and Jameel will not be rebuilding.
Quote from: Litehouse on April 11, 2013, 11:39:38 AM
Returning Duane, JJJ, Burton, ST2, and Jameel will not be rebuilding.
Tourney team yes, but not a top 20 team like we have this year and next. You really think DW, JJJ, DB as sophomores really are a threat to go deep in the tourney?
Again, we are competing with Duke, NC, and KY. I'm sure Looney is planning on the 1 and out route and if I was him I take the best chance of getting that championship before going pro.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on April 11, 2013, 11:38:59 AM
I traveled only 68 miles to go to MU, but the first time I ever set foot on campus was when my parents dropped me off in front of Schroeder Hall. Looking back, more than a little bizarre.
Boy, I must have been the indulgent parent. When my daughter was looking for a school we made 3 trips to University of Illinois, 2 trips to Augustana, 1 trip to Miami of Ohio, 1 trip to Winona St in Minnesota, and 3 trips to MU. Fortunately daughter #2 accompanied us on those trips, so it wasn't hard for her sister to convince her to attend MU as well.
Quote from: Rockmic87 on April 11, 2013, 12:57:36 AM
Looney and Stone will consider National exposure, better education, and greater opportunities elsewhere. It would be unrealistic to expect them to take the hometown discount, so that they could play with each other for something special. It would just be a Milwaukee/Wisconsin story for the most part. It would be like the Fab 5 Hype or what UK has going on next year.
Hah. Right. ::)
I dreamt of going to Marquette while playing grade school basketball. It was then and is today one of the top universities for top quality basketball and education. Since graduation from MU I have continued to follow and support the basketball program no matter where I am in the world. Where ever I go, I hear people talk about Marquette and its great basketball program. We are fortunate to have a great coach at Marquette. I trust he will recruit the players that will help MU maintain its high level of play. The 2013 recruiting class is an example of Buzz's recruiting effectiveness. There's no doubt top players will want to come to play for him. Let's wait and see.
Quote from: mr.MUskie on April 11, 2013, 11:44:46 AM
Boy, I must have been the indulgent parent. When my daughter was looking for a school we made 3 trips to University of Illinois, 2 trips to Augustana, 1 trip to Miami of Ohio, 1 trip to Winona St in Minnesota, and 3 trips to MU. Fortunately daughter #2 accompanied us on those trips, so it wasn't hard for her sister to convince her to attend MU as well.
My parents took me on trips to Notre Dame, Marquette, and Michigan.
Notre Dame: our guide, was a smarmy little prick who said, I'm not sure how many of you on this trip are even Notre Dame worthy
Michigan: decent trip but way too big for me at the time
Marquette-not an "official", so we asked directions on how to get around. A student was nice enough to show us around for 20 minutes...that student Tom Copa....sold
Edited for my bad spelling.
But then again if I had to do it over again, I would have taken that volleyball scholarship to University of Hawaii...(or was that the bad movie I fell asleep to last night)
Quote from: foreverwarriors on April 11, 2013, 11:48:27 AM
Hah. Right. ::)
By all reports, Looney is a great student and interested in the academic side of Duke. Can't blame him.
For most athletes I'd agree, the education they get at MU is as good as anyplace else. It sounds like Looney might be an exception.
Quote from: indeelaw90 on April 11, 2013, 11:57:03 AM
My parents took me on trips to Motre Dame, Marquette, and Michigan.
Notre Dame: our guide, was a smarmy little prick who said, I'm not sure how many of you on this trip are even Notre Dame worthy
Michigan: decent trip but way too big for me at the time
Notre Dame-not an "official", so we asked directions on how to get around. A student was nice enough to show us around for 20 minutes...that student Tom Copa....sold
But then again if I had to do it over again, I would have taken that volleyball scholarship to University of Hawaii...(or was that the basd movie I fell asleep to last night)
I was accepted at both ND and Michigan. Tour guides at both places were smarmy pricks. Same with DePauw. Once I visited MU, it was the school to beat.
Quote from: Rockmic87 on April 11, 2013, 12:57:36 AM
You can't understand because your selfish! This is every Marquette fans dream. However, there are better places to go than Marquette or being stuck in Milwaukee. That's just the reality of it.
Looney and Stone will consider National exposure, better education, and greater opportunities elsewhere. It would be unrealistic to expect them to take the hometown discount, so that they could play with each other for something special. It would just be a Milwaukee/Wisconsin story for the most part. It would be like the Fab 5 Hype or what UK has going on next year.
I really hope Buzz lands these two. I will go even further and say that I would love for us to consistently get the top Chicago recruits too. Could you imagine getting a Jahill Oakafor, Jabari Parker, Quincy Miller, etc. on a consistent basis? However, thats just not the reality of it.
I can't understand because I realize that most of the things you list can as easily apply to MU as any of the blue bloods given the right circumstances. Any team that is a top 5-10 team in the country is going to have plenty of national exposure. Great players will also always have a chance to get drafted in the NBA regardless of where they go to school. I'm not sure what greater opportunities they can get than being on a top team with a chance to get drafted in the NBA. I'm not foolish enough to think that MU is always in this position versus Duke or NC but with this particular collection of talent they can be. As for education, no top player with NBA potential values that enough to make it their primary driver for choosing a college. Just doesn't happen. So not only do I not understand why Looney and Stone wouldn't choose MU, I will go further and say that the way things are lining up I think it is in their rational best interest to both choose MU.
Quote from: mr.MUskie on April 11, 2013, 11:44:46 AM
Boy, I must have been the indulgent parent. When my daughter was looking for a school we made 3 trips to University of Illinois, 2 trips to Augustana, 1 trip to Miami of Ohio, 1 trip to Winona St in Minnesota, and 3 trips to MU. Fortunately daughter #2 accompanied us on those trips, so it wasn't hard for her sister to convince her to attend MU as well.
My parents pretty much assumed I was going to Notre Dame. I decided another 4 years of "all boys" education was a no go. MU was a compromise, an incredibly lucky one at that.
Quote from: indeelaw90 on April 11, 2013, 11:57:03 AM
My parents took me on trips to Notre Dame, Marquette, and Michigan.
Wait a second, isn't Marquette in Michigan?
Golfed yesterday with a guy who considers himself a sports fan. At one point, he asks me: "Marquette's in Michigan, right?"
And so it goes. Sigh.
Quote from: indeelaw90 on April 11, 2013, 11:57:03 AM
My parents took me on trips to Notre Dame, Marquette, and Michigan.
Notre Dame: our guide, was a smarmy little prick who said, I'm not sure how many of you on this trip are even Notre Dame worthy
Michigan: decent trip but way too big for me at the time
Marquette-not an "official", so we asked directions on how to get around. A student was nice enough to show us around for 20 minutes...that student Tom Copa....sold
Edited for my bad spelling.
But then again if I had to do it over again, I would have taken that volleyball scholarship to University of Hawaii...(or was that the bad movie I fell asleep to last night)
Thats a great story
Quote from: Farley36 on April 11, 2013, 12:46:14 PM
I can't understand because I realize that most of the things you list can as easily apply to MU as any of the blue bloods given the right circumstances. Any team that is a top 5-10 team in the country is going to have plenty of national exposure. Great players will also always have a chance to get drafted in the NBA regardless of where they go to school. I'm not sure what greater opportunities they can get than being on a top team with a chance to get drafted in the NBA. I'm not foolish enough to think that MU is always in this position versus Duke or NC but with this particular collection of talent they can be. As for education, no top player with NBA potential values that enough to make it their primary driver for choosing a college. Just doesn't happen. So not only do I not understand why Looney and Stone wouldn't choose MU, I will go further and say that the way things are lining up I think it is in their rational best interest to both choose MU.
UK absolutely sucked last year. But, they still got the media attention as if they were having a record breaking season. Most college basketball fans would probably be able to name drop a few UK players. That goes for UNC too. I would say that is not necessarily the case with MU, as outside of Vander Blue, the causal basketball fan would not know of anyone else. This is the difference in exposure nationally that I am talking about. If MU is not a top 25 team, ESPN and other news networks will not spend one second discussing MU.
It Sucks, but thats ultimately who Crean left for IU.
I am a really strong believer that once Buzz can get the top prospects from Chicago consistently, that MU will be untouchable. And I think it has a high likely hood of happening, given MU's close proximity to Chicago, and its urban campus. However, MU still has work to do, in proving it will get guys to the next level consistently and having Buzz gain the instant recognition and reputation of an Izzo for example. We are very lucky to have Wade from Chicago, and Butler currently playing on the Bulls as proof to these kids that MU will help them achieve there dreams. This will position MU nicely to get local Milwaukee prospects, Chicago, and other top prospects from around the country.
Quote from: Rockmic87 on April 11, 2013, 01:28:10 PM
If MU is not a top 25 team, ESPN and other news networks will not spend one second discussing MU.
Last year when it was the preseason and we were unranked ESPN scheduled us to be on their family of networks 18 times plus the Big East tourny. So they spend a few seconds discussing Marquette
Quote from: cbowe3 on April 11, 2013, 03:07:29 PM
Last year when it was the preseason and we were unranked ESPN scheduled us to be on their family of networks 18 times plus the Big East tourny. So they spend a few seconds discussing Marquette
True, but last year ESPN had a contract with the Big East to show their games. Pretty sure we won't be playing 18 games (or probably even 5 games) on ESPN next year.
Quote from: MU82 on April 11, 2013, 01:03:06 PM
Wait a second, isn't Marquette in Michigan?
Golfed yesterday with a guy who considers himself a sports fan. At one point, he asks me: "Marquette's in Michigan, right?"
And so it goes. Sigh.
The biggest city in the Michigan Upper Peninsula is named Marquette, might be what he meant. Otherwise I have no idea how he wouldn't know what Marquette University is.
Quote from: MUFanatic4Life on April 11, 2013, 03:26:31 PM
The biggest city in the Michigan Upper Peninsula is named Marquette, might be what he meant. Otherwise I have no idea how he wouldn't know what Marquette University is.
He probably knows *what* it is...just not *where* it is. I mean, if you only casually followed sports would you know schools like Villanova and Seton Hall were?
Quote from: Rockmic87 on April 11, 2013, 12:57:36 AM
You can't understand because your selfish! This is every Marquette fans dream. However, there are better places to go than Marquette or being stuck in Milwaukee. That's just the reality of it.
Looney and Stone will consider National exposure, better education, and greater opportunities elsewhere. It would be unrealistic to expect them to take the hometown discount, so that they could play with each other for something special. It would just be a Milwaukee/Wisconsin story for the most part. It would be like the Fab 5 Hype or what UK has going on next year.
I really hope Buzz lands these two. I will go even further and say that I would love for us to consistently get the top Chicago recruits too. Could you imagine getting a Jahill Oakafor, Jabari Parker, Quincy Miller, etc. on a consistent basis? However, thats just not the reality of it.
Funny, I went to Marquette because I just did not want to be stuck in New Jersey. I live in Princeton now.
Quote from: Terror Skink on April 11, 2013, 03:50:20 PM
He probably knows *what* it is...just not *where* it is. I mean, if you only casually followed sports would you know schools like Villanova and Seton Hall were?
New nickname: the Marquette Milwaukeeans. If we can't get a nickname people like, as least get one that's useful.
Quote from: MUFanatic4Life on April 11, 2013, 03:26:31 PM
The biggest city in the Michigan Upper Peninsula is named Marquette, might be what he meant. Otherwise I have no idea how he wouldn't know what Marquette University is.
That's my point. So many freakin' people think we're in Marquette, Michigan.
It's an understandable mistake, but it still burns my bacon!!!
Quote from: MU82 on April 11, 2013, 04:12:19 PM
That's my point. So many freakin' people think we're in Marquette, Michigan.
It's an understandable mistake, but it still burns my bacon!!!
Yeah, those people are idiots. That's not understandable by no means.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on April 11, 2013, 11:38:59 AM
I traveled only 68 miles to go to MU, but the first time I ever set foot on campus was when my parents dropped me off in front of Schroeder Hall. Looking back, more than a little bizarre.
Even more bizzare getting dropped off at a YMCA with two and a half floors of Marquette housing out of 12 or so floors.
I think landing Stone is more of a possibility than Loney just solely based on the fact of Duane was his teammate in high school. Granted I don't know how close they are, but if all goes well we could be witnessing the following video except on a national championship level. (at least I can dream right?)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdQDec2WYrE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdQDec2WYrE)
I am pumped!!
Quote from: LittleMurs on April 11, 2013, 05:41:59 PM
Even more bizzare getting dropped off at a YMCA with two and a half floors of Marquette housing out of 12 or so floors.
Thats Straz now right? Thats where I live and its 18 floors now.
Quote from: StillAWarrior on April 11, 2013, 10:42:11 AM
I traveled nearly 7,500 miles to go to MU sight unseen. The first time I saw MU was when I rolled up in cab.
Is this Guamo?