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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: Retire54 on March 15, 2013, 12:40:35 PM
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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/college-basketball/news/20130315/georgetown-catholic-seven-tension/
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Written by the same guy who yesterday said the ACC should bludgeon the C7.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/college-basketball/news/20130314/acc-madison-square-garden/ (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/college-basketball/news/20130314/acc-madison-square-garden/)
He's a Syracuse grad with an agenda.
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Just beat me to it--interesting to see some cracks appearing in the alliance. I do hate that both 'Nova and MU shat the bed last night so that G'town is the only C7 school remaining in the BET right now.
I wonder who the anonymous "school officials" are that Thamel quotes here. LW?
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I have heard similar things as Thamel, so don't dismiss this completely out of hand.
However there are six other schools, and last I heard, 6>1. So they are letting Georgetown do this.
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Also yesterday he said he polled half a dozen Big East coaches and ADs on if the ACC should take MSG. They all said yes.
Could those half dozen be ND, UL, SU, PU, UCONN, and UC?
I'm guessing these are his same sources for this story.
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However there are six other schools, and last I heard, 6>1. So they are letting Georgetown do this.
This.
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Written by the same guy who yesterday said the ACC should bludgeon the C7.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/college-basketball/news/20130314/acc-madison-square-garden/ (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/college-basketball/news/20130314/acc-madison-square-garden/)
He's a Syracuse grad with an agenda.
Now, he could be right... But, Pete has some credibility questions. Remember, he wrote this journalistic masterpiece... http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1206734/index.htm?eref=sisf
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This.
Hate to break it to you, but Georgetown is the biggest name in the new Big East.
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I agree. But the biggest name doesn't get 7 votes last time I checked.
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Georgetown's take on the article. Sounds like the article has been modified a few times since when it first came out.
http://hoyatalk2.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=26905 (http://hoyatalk2.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=26905)
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The more I think about this article, the dumber I think it is.
Yeah, they may be taking a leadership role, and yeah they might be preening a bit. But honestly, in the end who really cares? As I said, there are six other schools that seem to be going along with this, and you can't expect every decision to be unanimous and every meeting to be without some sort of dispute.
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I agree. But the biggest name doesn't get 7 votes last time I checked.
Without that biggest name, you're looking a significantly weaker league.
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Without that biggest name, you're looking a significantly weaker league.
And Georgetown's other option is????? Whatever is being decided is because 4 or more schools want it to happen. They aren't just giving into Georgetown.
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Sorry, but Georgetown brings the most to the table. I'm willing to give them a longer leash.
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Once we have a commissioner this will all stop. And on July 1, I also hope we have some good lawyers so we can sue ESPN, SI, CBS or any other news outlet who refers to the Big East as the C7, New Big East or Big East 2.0 as harming our brand as we go forward.
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Sorry, but Georgetown brings the most to the table. I'm willing to give them a longer leash.
Same here...but not too long. We don't want Gtown coming off the floor shoulder-checking the hell out of all of us a la LeBron and Mike Brown
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Sorry, but Georgetown brings the most to the table. I'm willing to give them a longer leash.
Is it their penchant for early NCAA exits that brings the most to the table? Or, perhaps, their wonderful multiple NIT bids in the last decade?
It's funny how long of a leash a seven year old Final Four and a famous father can bring a program.
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I'm told the Georgetown AD wanted nothing to do with the new conference and was very outright in saying so among friends. Then when he realized the Hoyas had no other option, he started acting like it was his idea all along and wanted to run the thing despite the Nova AD/president and our AD/president taking all the crucial steps to actually make this happen.
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Georgetown's take on the article. Sounds like the article has been modified a few times since when it first came out.
http://hoyatalk2.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=26905 (http://hoyatalk2.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=26905)
I get that their colors are blue and gray, but Jesus...that board is hideous.
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What I thought the most interesting aspect of the article was, were the references to the Fox contract. That we were not allowed to shop it around to other stations.
More importantly, that the league probably settled for LESS money from Fox than they would have gotten on the open market.
Tells you how much these networks value the Basketball league. The America 12 couldn't get anyone to bid on them, but we left money on the table settling for over $4M per team per year.
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Sorry, but Georgetown brings the most to the table. I'm willing to give them a longer leash.
You act like they're leaps and bounds ahead of us. Let's go since 2000 yes? Same amount of Final Fours, same amount of Sweet 16s, and we have more NCAA appearances. Outside of being better known to people raised in the 80s or 90s they aren't bringing more to the table.
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What I thought the most interesting aspect of the article was, were the references to the Fox contract. That we were not allowed to shop it around to other stations.
More importantly, that the league probably settled for LESS money from Fox than they would have gotten on the open market.
Tells you how much these networks value the Basketball league. The America 12 couldn't get anyone to bid on them, but we left money on the table settling for over $4M per team per year.
I need to hear that from more than one source for me to believe it.
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Written by the same guy who yesterday said the ACC should bludgeon the C7.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/college-basketball/news/20130314/acc-madison-square-garden/ (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/college-basketball/news/20130314/acc-madison-square-garden/)
He's a Syracuse grad with an agenda.
+1
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Is it their penchant for early NCAA exits that brings the most to the table? Or, perhaps, their wonderful multiple NIT bids in the last decade?
It's funny how long of a leash a seven year old Final Four and a famous father can bring a program.
Keep wearing your blue and gold goggles. I prefer a little objectivity. Take a national poll and ask people about MU and Georgetown. You'll quickly find out that Georgetown's profile is much, much higher. Hell, half the people I talk to think Marquette is in Michigan.
To deny that Georgetown is the big dog in the new Big East is either silly or stupid.
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Keep wearing your blue and gold goggles. I prefer a little objectivity. Take a national poll and ask people about MU and Georgetown. You'll quickly find out that Georgetown's profile is much, much higher. Hell, half the people I talk to think Marquette is in Michigan.
To deny that Georgetown is the big dog in the new Big East is either silly or stupid.
I was just asking a few honest questions.
And I never denied that Georgetown was one of the big dogs in the Big East.
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Wait a minute. I thought G Town was a "blue blood?" Well, where are they on this list?
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/9147684/very-early-top-25-2013-14-season-ncaa-men-college-basketball
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That piece was from March 15th.
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offtopic, but from their board. A little love our way... Oh, and yes, their site isn't easy on the eyes, makes me appreciate Scoop even more.
Re: Hoyas Not in ESPN Top 40 for '13-'14« Reply #19 Today at 12:44pm »
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Today at 10:16am, dcahoya wrote:Boy, ESPN is not waiting long to hold a grudge, are they?
Whatever do you mean?
I find it perfectly reasonable to put four ACC teams in the top 10, despite the ridiculous number of departures and uncertainty that surround three of them (while excluding this year's national finalist for basically the same reason).
It makes perfect sense to put a team who won the Big East regular season and was one of the last 8 teams playing -- AND WHO RETURNS NEARLY EVERYONE -- only at the 9 spot. probably because they're going to be playing in a weak conference or something like that.
I mean, this is 100% objective. What are you insinuating?
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Keep wearing your blue and gold goggles. I prefer a little objectivity. Take a national poll and ask people about MU and Georgetown. You'll quickly find out that Georgetown's profile is much, much higher. Hell, half the people I talk to think Marquette is in Michigan.
To deny that Georgetown is the big dog in the new Big East is either silly or stupid.
Take a poll of every other conference in America and see how many want to add Georgetown...[crickets chirping]
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Georgetown is a good program and Thompson is a good coach and appears to be a real gentleman. They will definitely help the New Big East gain credibility, which is a good thing. If Buzz keeps recruiting like he has with this next class, and lands guys like Stone and Looney, Georgetown can be the second biggest dog in the Big East.
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Sorry, but Georgetown brings the most to the table. I'm willing to give them a longer leash.
I am with you, Groin. There is a reason some countries have veto power at the UN. They have intercontinental-range nukes. Georgetown is the US. Seton Hall is Benin.
Georgetown Hoyas- They are the Nuts on the Boulevard and know it.
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-W66XV8vbv-A/TamTg3PlgzI/AAAAAAAAFqM/sqQPCnYcfzI/s1600/A-10+Thunderbolt+II+by+asian+defence+%252815%2529.jpg)
Butler Bulldogs - Like Israel you better take them seriously or they'll kick your ass. Every few years they get hot and turn heads. A sexy Bracket Buster pick.
(http://us.123rf.com/400wm/400/400/odessa4/odessa41107/odessa4110700034/9899616-jerusalem-israel--may-30-2011-unidentified-israeli-army-girl-drinks-coca-cola-at-the-israel-expo-one.jpg)
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_A4sszLq3br8/TK8MGbn9-YI/AAAAAAAABeE/WxvWYZDj7Bo/s1600/IDFWomenDoubleTapper_2196662863_11ca1ccab5_o.jpg)
(http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/plasmastik/7080412/1446474/1446474_original.jpg)
(http://www.snegidhi.com/2009/23-5b/israel-army-women_tmb.jpg)
(http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk295/zingdan/October/Oct%2027/IDFgirlfriends.jpg)
Villanova Wildcats - They have had their moments, look good at the beginning of the season but someone is always just a little better and kicks their ass
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-hzdSkVlT_Bo/ULiOa1OCjrI/AAAAAAAA41c/z2li8ooRivc/s1600/A+column+of+German+forces+in+Paris.jpg)
Creighton Blue Jays - Italy kicked Ethiopia's ass then fought the Brits. Creighton kicked ass in the MVC then joined the Big East...
(http://www.1rtr.net/army/italian%20prisoners.jpg)
Seton Hall Pirates - Living on some imagined past glory that really never was.
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_GNKcJP7dZ6A/S87jJ0gx0II/AAAAAAAADhU/bMxUSuMjLCM/s400/Napoleon's+army.jpg)
DePaul Blue Demons - They used to be Kick Ass but that was a long time ago. A really long time ago
(http://www.magnificentmongolia.com/images/menu/mongol-horde-invasion.jpg)
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I am with you, Groin. There is a reason some countries have veto power at the UN. They have intercontinental-range nukes. Georgetown is the US. Seton Hall is Benin.
Georgetown Hoyas- They are the Nuts on the Boulevard and know it.
Keefe,
Good stuff. You have me wanting more after reading this... Xavier, Providence, etc...
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Love the pictures, particularly the Israeli Army girls. Looks to me like they could easily get opposing army to drop their weapons quickly.
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So if Georgetown is the US, what are we?
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Love the pictures, particularly the Israeli Army girls. Looks to me like they could easily get opposing army to drop their weapons quickly.
Not to be snarky, but none of the girls I know from Skokie look like these chicks.
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Not to be snarky, but none of the girls I know from Skokie look like these chicks.
You must be running in the wrong crowd! ;D
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You must be running in the wrong crowd! ;D
Didn't say I ran with them.......I am not exactly the North Shore type, then or now.
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Not to be snarky, but none of the girls I know from Skokie look like these chicks.
I get your point but Israel has more gorgeous women per square inch than any other piece of real estate on God's Earth. Not sure what's in the chicken soup over there but Good Lord they breed 'em well. Tel Aviv is one of the world's best stocked ponds. My God, those beaches!
The IDF is one of the world's finest fighting forces. They are certainly the best looking.
(http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/3855/israel27sn6.jpg)
(http://www.insightonthenews.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/IDF-Spokesperson-woman-soldiers-smiling.jpg)
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Dm4Xx59f6NM/SfnUS2l9-KI/AAAAAAAACTM/twfviZm0608/s400/n1363926220_30066264_6665.jpg)
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Dm4Xx59f6NM/SfnUSi0DmUI/AAAAAAAACS8/SbL0k0NuTas/s400/n1352476864_147967_1258.jpg)
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_J4DQHW8S-7c/TNuz0D1IHVI/AAAAAAAAGes/ykz2BqMd040/s1600/israel_beauty_12.jpg)
(http://byfiles.storage.live.com/y1pAkyF9VLkzJMdjRV8tKoihZp-uQ6hwq0GM1cfM3_PXhqYm7mHwE9Oem5QmVkgy2NDIMeV3k8fVPM)
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Love the pictures, particularly the Israeli Army girls. Looks to me like they could easily get opposing army to drop their weapons quickly.
Or have them grabbing their weapons. Certainly brings a proud soldier to attention!
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So if Georgetown is the US, what are we?
Canada
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Canada
No. You have to least say the UK... former power and still relevant.
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No, we're the Upper Peninsula.
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The beauty in the bikini is the Commando "drownproofing" Instructor. She teaches them how to stay afloat for hours. By the looks of the shape of her uniform, she could stay afloat for days,
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No. You have to least say the UK... former power and still relevant.
My thought as well.
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Love the pictures, particularly the Israeli Army girls. Looks to me like they could easily get opposing army to drop their weapons quickly.
Bet the rate of accidental discharge of their weapons is high in that case.
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Marquette Warriors - US SOCOM has the finest warriors in the world. They undergo the most grueling training, have the very best armaments, equipment and facilities, possess the most tenacious spirit, are utterly fearless, and follow visionary leaders into combat. They always make an impact but never fight the decisive battle. Still, they are feared and respected like no other by all who must oppose them. As Vander Blue said, "I want people to ask, 'Do we have to play those guys?'"
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-NPyF9aK-DlY/T20b4VBuAKI/AAAAAAAABu0/PWMWbptR_BA/s1600/navy_seal1.jpg)
(http://www.manism.com/upfiles/howtos/MIL_US_Army_Rangers_in_Iraq_lg.jpg)
(http://dmn.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Air-Force-JTACs-600x450.jpg)
(http://i56.tinypic.com/2j5lvf4.jpg)
Providence Friars - Chinese Nationalist Leader Chiang Kai Shek ran the table against local Chinese War Lords as he unified the nation as a modern political state. The world stood up and took notice as the West recognized the new China under Chiang's undefeated Kuomintang. Chiang's China was a popular pick in those early non-conference contests. But then the Regular Season started and first Japan then Mao tse Tung's Communist Chinese kicked the sh1t out of Chiang's KMT forces. Next thing he knew Chiang was out of the rankings and living on Taiwan where people were calling him Asia's Keno Davis.
Early victories against the war lords found Chiang undefeated - the Happy Days
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-S2X3iPInjP8/TvtjHU8c5rI/AAAAAAAAAL8/n2MRv9apJhc/s1600/Chiang_Kai-shek.jpg)
A Loss to Tojo's Imperial Falcons ends the unbeaten season
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRU95323a60_X5jCo-p7UwM24CD7KVx8HeZZsRK8giJFHSEDi2T)
A crushing loss to Mao's Red Raiders leaves Chiang out of the rankings
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/20/1931_Mao_and_Zhu_De_on_Red_Army_inspection.jpg)
Chiang Kai Shek - The Keno Davis of Asia
(http://www.cm-life.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Keno.jpg)
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offtopic, but from their board. A little love our way... Oh, and yes, their site isn't easy on the eyes, makes me appreciate Scoop even more.
Re: Hoyas Not in ESPN Top 40 for '13-'14« Reply #19 Today at 12:44pm »
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Today at 10:16am, dcahoya wrote:Boy, ESPN is not waiting long to hold a grudge, are they?
Whatever do you mean?
I find it perfectly reasonable to put four ACC teams in the top 10, despite the ridiculous number of departures and uncertainty that surround three of them (while excluding this year's national finalist for basically the same reason).
It makes perfect sense to put a team who won the Big East regular season and was one of the last 8 teams playing -- AND WHO RETURNS NEARLY EVERYONE -- only at the 9 spot. probably because they're going to be playing in a weak conference or something like that.
I mean, this is 100% objective. What are you insinuating?
Someone hasn't done their homework on what teams are in what conferences. There are three ACC teams in the top 10. It is interesting to note there are three AAC teams listed in the top 15.
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No disrespect intended, but somehow, the pictures of the Israeli Army ladies create a woody, while the pictures of our US Warriors more appropriately belong in a Military Handbook.
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It is interesting to note there are three AAC teams listed in the top 15.
AAC will be as top heavy as that Israeli soldier. Louisville, Memphis and UCONN. Maybe Cincinnati and Temple as a bubble teams. That's it. And then Louisville will be gone after next year. They will have 1 year of relevance in bball and football, and then will become the new Conference USA, while the old Conference USA becomes the new Sun Belt.
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Canada
Nah! Puerto Rico! Remembering Butch Lee's heroics who single handedly nearly defeated the US in the '76 Olympics.
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Chiang Kai Shek - The Keno Davis of Asia
(http://www.cm-life.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Keno.jpg)
hahahahhahaha. Well fracking done.
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Written by the same guy who yesterday said the ACC should bludgeon the C7.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/college-basketball/news/20130314/acc-madison-square-garden/ (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/college-basketball/news/20130314/acc-madison-square-garden/)
He's a Syracuse grad with an agenda.
It's all predictions.
I got one. I predict it will take half the student body to get our foot out of Georgetown's ass after we embarrass them on the court next year. Boom!
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So if Georgetown is the US, what are we?
Completely ignoring the political aspect of things I think we are China. We are a potential Superpower, with an amazing, but often overlooked, history. I wish there was a better example, but completely ignoring the awfulness of China's government and looking at it from a purely analytic standpoint, I think it's a perfect fit.
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Completely ignoring the political aspect of things I think we are China. We are a potential Superpower, with an amazing, but often overlooked, history. I wish there was a better example, but completely ignoring the awfulness of China's government and looking at it from a purely analytic standpoint, I think it's a perfect fit.
Probably a pretty good analogy, since if we keep Buzz around we'll own Georgetown before too long....