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Buzz "traveling west" today to see '15 Henry Ellenson (Rice Lake HS) '14 Reid Travis (DeLaSalle), both MN PnR kids #mubb
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Henry's team lost to Onalaska (led by traditional Matt Thomas, an ISU commit for '13) in the sectionals... Minnesota's playoff schedule is a little later than WI... just getting started this week. De plays a quarterfinal sectional game tomorrow night at home.
Reid's DeLaSalle team is the favorite to win state this year (again).
Rice Lake is a good 100 miles from downtown Minneapolis, where DeLaSalle is.
Word from Chris Monter here in the Twin Cities is that Buzz is heading back to MN to see 2014 F Reid Travis again (sounds like 3p tomorrow).
Minnesota Pump N Run is now D1 Minnesota. Reid has moved from D1 Minnesota over to Howard Pulley where he'll play with 2014 PG Tyus Jones in the EYBL.
2015 F Henry Ellenson is still with D1 Minnesota - he'll be playing with their 16U team this weekend, who is playing up in the 17U bracket at the Minnesota Comets Shootout in St. Cloud, MN. Their stiffest competition there may prove to be Net Gain Sports where 2014 Rashad Vaughn played a year ago.
This season Rashad has joined Wisconsin Playground Elite where Duane Wilson was a year ago. They are still in the EYBL.. Jerelle Deberry from Milwaukee also is on that PGE team.
Thanks for the updates Jay Bee. Love hearing about Buzz on the recruiting trail.
5 Star Recruits reported that Marquette and Florida state both visited 5-star SG Ahmed Hill today.
TWITTA TRACKAAAAAAAAAAAAAA:
@MedHill_14 "Had 2 great in-home visits today! Went better than I thought!"
Quote from: JakeBarnes on April 12, 2013, 01:27:48 AM
5 Star Recruits reported that Marquette and Florida state both visited 5-star SG Ahmed Hill today.
TWITTA TRACKAAAAAAAAAAAAAA:
@MedHill_14 "Had 2 great in-home visits today! Went better than I thought!"
Rather tepid endorsement. "Hey, it was better than a stick in the eye..." Not encouraging.
Quote from: keefe on April 12, 2013, 04:24:38 AM
Rather tepid endorsement. "Hey, it was better than a stick in the eye..." Not encouraging.
hahaha
Quote from: keefe on April 12, 2013, 04:24:38 AM
Rather tepid endorsement. "Hey, it was better than a stick in the eye..." Not encouraging.
Really? I disagree. Probably thought going in there would be no way he'd go to Milwaukee. Came out liking it.
Buzz 'bout ta start stackin' classes
Quote from: Jay Bee on April 11, 2013, 11:12:10 PM
Word from Chris Monter here in the Twin Cities is that Buzz is heading back to MN to see 2014 F Reid Travis again (sounds like 3p tomorrow).
Minnesota Pump N Run is now D1 Minnesota. Reid has moved from D1 Minnesota over to Howard Pulley where he'll play with 2014 PG Tyus Jones in the EYBL.
2015 F Henry Ellenson is still with D1 Minnesota - he'll be playing with their 16U team this weekend, who is playing up in the 17U bracket at the Minnesota Comets Shootout in St. Cloud, MN. Their stiffest competition there may prove to be Net Gain Sports where 2014 Rashad Vaughn played a year ago.
This season Rashad has joined Wisconsin Playground Elite where Duane Wilson was a year ago. They are still in the EYBL.. Jerelle Deberry from Milwaukee also is on that PGE team.
I don't see Reid Travis committing to MU being that he is also a standout football player. He also wants to play football where ever he goes. Michigan State isthe front runner I believe.
What's the deal on Nick Noskowiak from Sun Prairie? I saw Mark Miller say something about Marquette strongly showing interest.
Quote from: LAZER on April 12, 2013, 10:00:01 AM
What's the deal on Nick Noskowiak from Sun Prairie? I saw Mark Miller say something about Marquette strongly showing interest.
Has a bunch of mid-major offers...I guess I shouldn't be including Creighton as a mid-major any longer...but the high major schools are showing interest now. Including apparently Florida.
Big time shooter.
JayBee, any truth to the rumor that Tyus Jones and Jahlil Okafor have an agreement that they are going to the same college?
Quote from: Dreadman24 on April 12, 2013, 09:12:39 AM
I don't see Reid Travis committing to MU being that he is also a standout football player. He also wants to play football where ever he goes. Michigan State isthe front runner I believe.
What about the longest running college football club??
Is it just me or does it seem like Ellenson to Becky is a foregone conclusion. His game looks like it fits Bo's system perfectly.
Quote from: AWegrzyn17 on April 12, 2013, 10:29:29 AM
Is it just me or does it seem like Ellenson to Becky is a foregone conclusion. His game looks like it fits Bo's system perfectly.
Don't be fooled by the traditional exterior - dude is super athletic, not exactly a Becky plodder.
Quote from: AWegrzyn17 on April 12, 2013, 10:29:29 AM
Is it just me or does it seem like Ellenson to Becky is a foregone conclusion. His game looks like it fits Bo's system perfectly.
I wouldn't make that assumption. Don't under-estimate how much Buzz and Marquette's recent success has done in the eyes of many in-state kids. From my understanding, it really has turned some heads.
Quote from: AWegrzyn17 on April 12, 2013, 10:29:29 AM
Is it just me or does it seem like Ellenson to Becky is a foregone conclusion. His game looks like it fits Bo's system perfectly.
Cause he is a white boy from the country?
Quote from: Rockmic87 on April 12, 2013, 10:36:12 AM
Cause he is a white boy from the country?
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lumbrq6UjE1qcgj1eo1_250.gif)
Quote from: SaintPaulWarrior on April 12, 2013, 10:09:50 AM
JayBee, any truth to the rumor that Tyus Jones and Jahlil Okafor have an agreement that they are going to the same college?
They've said as much on Twitter in the past.
Quote from: Rockmic87 on April 12, 2013, 10:36:12 AM
Cause he is a white boy from the country?
Partly. Partly bc he seems to like to shoot the tray and handle the ball on the perimeter. Also for a supposedly athletic kid I haven't seen him dunk in his videos. Also, didn't his dad transfer from MU to a Big 10 school?
Quote from: brewcity77 on April 12, 2013, 10:41:58 AM
They've said as much on Twitter in the past.
Thanks Brew.
Jaybee...I saw Evan Daniels report that Buzz is meeting with Rashad Vaughn today. You had mentioned that Rashad switched AAU programs. Does the switch to that program/ the MU connection give MU a legit shot at Rashad? Thx
Quote from: LAZER on April 12, 2013, 10:00:01 AM
What's the deal on Nick Noskowiak from Sun Prairie? I saw Mark Miller say something about Marquette strongly showing interest.
Nick Noskowiak has offers from Creighton and Iowa State and Northern Iowa. Marquette will be watching closely next weekend in Dallas at an Adidas event. Noskowiak likes MU's style of play and would be very interested should MU extend an offer.
Can play either guard spot, excellent passer, smart kid who manages a game very well. Good shooter.
Quote from: AWegrzyn17 on April 12, 2013, 10:48:17 AM
Also, didn't his dad transfer from MU to a Big 10 school?
The kids of Doc Rivers and Wes Matthews have led me to stop making assumptions about where the kids of a former player will commit....
Quote from: Rockmic87 on April 12, 2013, 10:36:12 AM
Cause he is a white boy from the country?
Hpw you say...Terrell Schlundt?
Quote from: AWegrzyn17 on April 12, 2013, 10:48:17 AM
Partly. Partly bc he seems to like to shoot the tray and handle the ball on the perimeter. Also for a supposedly athletic kid I haven't seen him dunk in his videos. Also, didn't his dad transfer from MU to a Big 10 school?
John (?) Ellenson was recruited to Marquette by Majerius, but ended up being coached by Dukiet. Talk about your bait and switch, so he transferred to Wisconsin. He's on record saying that he holds no animosity against MU and would be fine with his son going there.
Quote from: Dreadman24 on April 12, 2013, 09:12:39 AM
I don't see Reid Travis committing to MU being that he is also a standout football player. He also wants to play football where ever he goes. Michigan State isthe front runner I believe.
I think there is an interest in playing football, but what he ultimately does is undecided. I believe it's most likely he only plays basketball in college. Izzo continues to recruit him hard, visiting today... although 2013 Gavin Schilling just committed to MSU.
Quote from: SaintPaulWarriorJayBee, any truth to the rumor that Tyus Jones and Jahlil Okafor have an agreement that they are going to the same college?
They talk about it all the time, but I've seen guys talk about being a package in the past and sometimes it happens, sometimes it doesn't. Any kid should make the decision based on what's best for him.. if it works out you can join your buddy, then great... but, I'd say it might happen, might not.
Quote from: AWegrzyn17Is it just me or does it seem like Ellenson to Becky is a foregone conclusion. His game looks like it fits Bo's system perfectly.
It's just you. Henry is currently underrated in rankings and has the potential to be an exceptional college player. As his ball handling, speed & quickness improve the reality of being a 3/4 in college becomes more and more realizable. His skills are there. He can get down low and bang, but likes to run & work on the perimeter as well.
He's played a number of different ways in high school, AAU, at camps (including playing with the 'bigs' group at the US MDNT camp along with/against Diamond)... getting quite well rounded.
He could do well at Wisconsin, but playing in their offense would be selling him short.
Quote from: thehammockJaybee...I saw Evan Daniels report that Buzz is meeting with Rashad Vaughn today. You had mentioned that Rashad switched AAU programs. Does the switch to that program/ the MU connection give MU a legit shot at Rashad? Thx
I'm not sure how much that connection helps (players/coaching changes?), but it's a very good thing that Buzz is meeting with him. Spending time with a bunch of Milwaukee kids should be interesting for him... and playing in the EYBL will be a nice benefit as well.
With Buzz as coach and MU's style of play, there's always a chance. Many of the big boys are on him and have been for a long time. He may chop down his list in the near future - we'll see if MU makes it.
Quote from: SaintPaulWarrior on April 12, 2013, 10:09:50 AM
JayBee, any truth to the rumor that Tyus Jones and Jahlil Okafor have an agreement that they are going to the same college?
What's the link between these 2? Same AAU team or something?
EDIT: Ahh nevermind, I see that they played on the U17 Team USA.
Quote from: Stronghold on April 12, 2013, 11:47:30 AM
What's the link between these 2? Same AAU team or something?
USA Basketball.
Quote from: JakeBarnes on April 12, 2013, 01:27:48 AM
5 Star Recruits reported that Marquette and Florida state both visited 5-star SG Ahmed Hill today.
TWITTA TRACKAAAAAAAAAAAAAA:
@MedHill_14 "Had 2 great in-home visits today! Went better than I thought!"
Putting on my Nostradameus hat:
2015-16 lineup
StartersStone
Taylor
Burton
Johnson
Wilson
BenchWhite
Looney
Hill
Dawson
Quote from: Farley36 on April 12, 2013, 11:56:37 AM
Putting on my Nostradameus hat:
2015-16 lineup
Starters
Stone
Taylor
Burton
Johnson
Wilson
Bench
White
Looney
Hill
Dawson
LMAO @ Looney on the bench.
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on April 12, 2013, 12:15:57 PM
LMAO @ Looney on the bench.
I was thinking the same thing. I know its a joke but people are really not giving Looney enough credit even in their dream scenarios. Guy will be a stud.
JayBee,
Are there any worthwhile AAU, EYBl type events in the Cities in the near future that are worth attending?
Quote from: real chili 83 on April 12, 2013, 01:02:58 PM
JayBee,
Are there any worthwhile AAU, EYBL type events in the Cities in the near future that are worth attending?
Yes, a bunch! Keep in touch, but thinking off the top... next weekend (4/19-21) the NY2LA (at Hopkins HS) tourney will be a very good one as will D1 Minnesota's Spring tourney at Bloomington Jefferson.
May 3-5 is the Howard Pulley Invitational.. the EYBL team should be there as well as their other teams.. that's at High Performance Academy in Eagan, I believe*
Weekend starting May 24 - EYBL Session #4 is at High Performance Academy.. that's a can't miss. It's also a EYBL 16U qualifier.
Bunch of tourneys in July as well...
In addition to the ones above I'll be hitting a couple of state tourneys in the April/May time frame...
This Sunday morning I may head up to St. Cloud for a bit for the Minnesota Comets shootout.
Quote from: Jay Bee on April 12, 2013, 01:29:51 PM
Yes, a bunch! Keep in touch, but thinking off the top... next weekend (4/19-21) the NY2LA (at Hopkins HS) tourney will be a very good one as will D1 Minnesota's Spring tourney at Bloomington Jefferson.
May 3-5 is the Howard Pulley Invitational.. the EYBL team should be there as well as their other teams.. that's at High Performance Academy in Eagan, I believe*
Weekend starting May 24 - EYBL Session #4 is at High Performance Academy.. that's a can't miss. It's also a EYBL 16U qualifier.
Bunch of tourneys in July as well...
In addition to the ones above I'll be hitting a couple of state tourneys in the April/May time frame...
This Sunday morning I may head up to St. Cloud for a bit for the Minnesota Comets shootout.
Thanks! Any guesses on (1)Which tournaments may hae a Buzz sighting and (2) have MU potential recruits playing?
Quote from: Farley36 on April 12, 2013, 11:56:37 AM
Putting on my Nostradameus hat:
2015-16 lineup
Starters
Stone
Taylor
Burton
Johnson
Wilson
Bench
White
Looney (Declared early entrant, lottery pick in NBA Draft)
Hill
Dawson
FIFY
Quote from: Jay Bee on April 12, 2013, 11:28:20 AM
It's just you. Henry is currently underrated in rankings and has the potential to be an exceptional college player. As his ball handling, speed & quickness improve the reality of being a 3/4 in college becomes more and more realizable. His skills are there. He can get down low and bang, but likes to run & work on the perimeter as well.
He's played a number of different ways in high school, AAU, at camps (including playing with the 'bigs' group at the US MDNT camp along with/against Diamond)... getting quite well rounded.
He could do well at Wisconsin, but playing in their offense would be selling him short.
Please explain to me how this kid could be a 3 in Buzz's system: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukyEwWAvLLc. He'll be a good post player, but lets not get crazy.
I actually like Ellenson's game from his vid. He has a nice touch and finishing ability around the hoop. Something some high school players don't realize is that they can't dunk everything inside in college, so I think this guy's ability around the rim will help. He looks mobile for his size but I wouldn't classify him as athletic in a basketball sense.
Based on that video he reminds me a lot of Davante Gardner
Quote from: muarmy81 on April 12, 2013, 04:26:15 PM
Based on that video he reminds me a lot of Davante Gardner
A highlight reel is a selection of possessions where the guy's shot is always going in. I'd have to see and overall reel with missed shots as reel as successes before I'd say that he has Davonte's touch. It appears to me that he moves better and is more accustomed to taking the outside shot than Davonte. Not that I'm saying that Davonte can't hit the outside shot, but -thank God- Davonte hangs around the paint where we need him to be.
Quote from: keefe on April 12, 2013, 04:24:38 AM
Rather tepid endorsement. "Hey, it was better than a stick in the eye..." Not encouraging.
Huh? For as much as you like to flaunt all your accomplishments, reading comprehension must not be a strength of yours, and it must not be something that your employers have looked for.
Ellenson is a lot more mobile and in better condition than Gardner. Plus he has more arrows in his quiver.
Quote from: LittleMurs on April 14, 2013, 04:57:54 PM
A highlight reel is a selection of possessions where the guy's shot is always going in. I'd have to see and overall reel with missed shots as reel as successes before I'd say that he has Davonte's touch. It appears to me that he moves better and is more accustomed to taking the outside shot than Davonte. Not that I'm saying that Davonte can't hit the outside shot, but -thank God- Davonte hangs around the paint where we need him to be.
I was referring more to how they both use their bodies and not necessarily their verticals around the rim.
Quote from: wadesworld on April 14, 2013, 05:20:01 PM
Huh? For as much as you like to flaunt all your accomplishments, reading comprehension must not be a strength of yours, and it must not be something that your employers have looked for.
He hired someone to read for him, obviously.
Back to topic: I love seeing Buzz out on the road recruiting so hard. I'll be happy watching him coach for as long as he's here... hopefully that's a long, long time.
Quote from: Captain Awesome on April 14, 2013, 06:26:35 PM
He hired someone to read for him, obviously.
Back to topic: I love seeing Buzz out on the road recruiting so hard. I'll be happy watching him coach for as long as he's here... hopefully that's a long, long time.
Again with the sophomoric comments. Subtlety and nuance elude you, as always. Cretin.
I really wish we could've gotten Joel Embiid, he looked great in the Jordan Classic last night. Stuffed Julius Randle at the rim going full throttle for a dunk, his defensive potential is amazing. He might've impressed me the most out of any player.
Quote from: MUFanatic4Life on April 14, 2013, 11:22:49 PM
I really wish we could've gotten Joel Embiid, he looked great in the Jordan Classic last night. Stuffed Julius Randle at the rim going full throttle for a dunk, his defensive potential is amazing. He might've impressed me the most out of any player.
Agreed, but methinks JJJ is a helluva consolation prize.
I'm going to be interested as to how Buzz deals with the losses if CO and Ox next year. We don't have any true centers in the pipeline yet, so maybe we go Juco to add some true size.
Quote from: ceh on April 15, 2013, 07:23:53 AM
I'm going to be interested as to how Buzz deals with the losses if CO and Ox next year. We don't have any true centers in the pipeline yet, so maybe we go Juco to add some true size.
You are absolutely correct, and according to the recruiting sites, we are not looking at very many Centers. The only one I could find was Sean O'Mara, 6'9" from Lisle, Il. #119 on Rivals. It does not look like there a lot of good Centers out there for 2014, so Buzz has the work cut out for him. Replacing Ox/O'Tule will not be easy.
I look for him to land a couple of more 6'9 switchable types. Plus Diamond Stone. Land Stone and White out of Chicago and we will have ample size, with McKay and STjr.
Don't know if this has been asked before but does Buzz's history, so far, of having a short leash with freshmen but us at a disadvantage of landing Looney or someone of similar skill? I imagine this has to change, especially after what we are losing next year but so far I don't recall anyone being given that much leeway to go out there play and grow. Closest I come come up with is Mayo and Blue who both averaged around 20 minutes as freshmen.
Quote from: MUMonster03 on April 15, 2013, 08:42:34 AM
Don't know if this has been asked before but does Buzz's history, so far, of having a short leash with freshmen but us at a disadvantage of landing Looney or someone of similar skill? I imagine this has to change, especially after what we are losing next year but so far I don't recall anyone being given that much leeway to go out there play and grow. Closest I come come up with is Mayo and Blue who both averaged around 20 minutes as freshmen.
Reggie Smith and Maymon both played a decent amount of minutes before they transferred.
I don't think that Buzz is against playing frosh., but given the amount of rotations MU uses on defense, I think it takes some time before Buzz trusts a new player to get it right. Being a good individual defender is great, but with MU's style, if you are 1/2 step slow on a rotation, it's going to be a basket. Guys have to learn how to play good
team defense to earn significant minutes.
Quote from: Guns n Ammo on April 15, 2013, 08:56:16 AM
Reggie Smith and Maymon both played a decent amount of minutes before they transferred.
Not as many minutes as they deserved.
Everything is earned. Don't think there is any hard & fast rule against playing freshmen X mpg. Play well, you'll play. No problemo.
Looks like Kevon & Diamond might both be in the Twin Cities this weekend.
Does Buzz have any 7 footers on his recruiting schedule?
Quote from: Guns n Ammo on April 15, 2013, 08:56:16 AM
Reggie Smith and Maymon both played a decent amount of minutes before they transferred.
I don't think that Buzz is against playing frosh., but given the amount of rotations MU uses on defense, I think it takes some time before Buzz trusts a new player to get it right. Being a good individual defender is great, but with MU's style, if you are 1/2 step slow on a rotation, it's going to be a basket. Guys have to learn how to play good team defense to earn significant minutes.
I seem to remember that Blue was starting right away as a freshman as well.
I'm glad buzz is out recruiting. There is now an opening. If ever there was a time for a 7 ft project, this is it.
Quote from: MUFanatic4Life on April 15, 2013, 04:11:54 PM
I seem to remember that Blue was starting right away as a freshman as well.
He started 10 games durin non conference and then only 2 during Big East play, don't remember who replaced him in the lineup.
Quote from: MUMonster03 on April 15, 2013, 05:57:19 PM
He started 10 games durin non conference and then only 2 during Big East play, don't remember who replaced him in the lineup.
Gotcha, I was not sure how much he started. I remember he hit that huge wall during conference play though.
Quote from: tower912 on April 15, 2013, 04:53:03 PM
I'm glad buzz is out recruiting. There is now an opening. If ever there was a time for a 7 ft project, this is it.
6'10 Ikenna Okwarabizie would fit that description, he's 2014 though.
Goodman said a few days ago that Justin Edwards from Maine was a target as well
Quote from: MUMonster03 on April 15, 2013, 05:57:19 PM
He started 10 games durin non conference and then only 2 during Big East play, don't remember who replaced him in the lineup.
Erik Williams? We ended up starting Otule/Williams/Butler/Buycks/DJO in Blue's freshman year, with Crowder playing the starter's minutes behind Williams, the same way J Wilson played the starter's minutes behind Anderson this season. By the end of the season, Blue was getting single digit mpg, I think.
Quote from: LAZER on April 15, 2013, 07:44:08 PM
6'10 Ikenna Okwarabizie would fit that description, he's 2014 though.
Goodman said a few days ago that Justin Edwards from Maine was a target as well
Article on Justin Edwards, 6'3" SG from Canada. Led the America East conference in scoring and is looking to move up to a bigger program.
http://bangordailynews.com/2013/03/28/sports/umaine-star-guard-justin-edwards-to-transfer/
Quote from: Litehouse on April 16, 2013, 08:19:54 AM
Article on Justin Edwards, 6'3" SG from Canada. Led the America East conference in scoring and is looking to move up to a bigger program.
http://bangordailynews.com/2013/03/28/sports/umaine-star-guard-justin-edwards-to-transfer/
No. More. Guards.
Anyone know anything about Alex Brown from San Jose State? I was just looking through the transfer list to see what might fit. I have no idea if there's any interest either way.
6-11 Jr, originally from Mr. Vernon, Ill. Looks like he played 2 years at a Juco and then went to SJSU for 1 year. If he transfers I assume he'd have to sit out a year and then have one year of eligibility. Averaged 4.6ppg and 4.7 rpg in 21 mpg at SJSU last year. He could sit out next year (2013-24), then fill the void after Oxtule leaves the following year (2014-15), and clear the deck for Stone in 2015-16.
http://www.sjsuspartans.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=5600&ATCLID=205725716
Jamal Jones 6'8"
He is a 6-8 three man who handles the ball well, is very athletic and can shoot the ball from the perimeter.
JUCO prospect
Ranked 5th in the JUCO rankings (Mckay ranks 3rd). He is the highest rated JUCO player who is uncommitted.
Quote from: THEultimateWARRIOR on April 16, 2013, 10:16:13 AM
Jamal Jones 6'8"
He is a 6-8 three man who handles the ball well, is very athletic and can shoot the ball from the perimeter.
JUCO prospect
Ranked 5th in the JUCO rankings (Mckay ranks 3rd). He is the highest rated JUCO player who is uncommitted.
Don't know anyting about this guy, but do we really need another 3? We have Ja. Wilson/Burton/Taylor/ and TripleJ that can all play there.
Looks like some of that TV money is going to gas up the jet to get Buzz back out there to fins some pieces for next year.
Quote from: THEultimateWARRIOR on April 16, 2013, 10:16:13 AM
Jamal Jones 6'8"
He is a 6-8 three man who handles the ball well, is very athletic and can shoot the ball from the perimeter.
JUCO prospect
Ranked 5th in the JUCO rankings (Mckay ranks 3rd). He is the highest rated JUCO player who is uncommitted.
I think he's an Aggie:
http://tamu.247sports.com/Board/20/Aggie-Hoops-lands-top-JUCO-G-Jamal-Jones-18149678/1
Quote from: Litehouse on April 16, 2013, 08:19:54 AM
Article on Justin Edwards, 6'3" SG from Canada. Led the America East conference in scoring and is looking to move up to a bigger program.
http://bangordailynews.com/2013/03/28/sports/umaine-star-guard-justin-edwards-to-transfer/
"He shot 27 percent (44-for-164) from the 3-point arc for the Bears."
MU should be the perfect fit for him.
Quote from: Groin_pull on April 16, 2013, 08:24:54 AM
No. More. Guards.
Yeah, forget guards. Let's fill our 4 2014 openings with 4 centers. ::)
Kevin Thomas time!
2013 PG Trey Dickerson from Texas tweeted that Marquette is now involved
https://twitter.com/Dat_boy_TD
Also, possible interest in Duquense Frosh Quevyn Winters? From ESPN Rumors:
"Of all the newcomers to the Atlantic 10 in 2012-13, Quevyn Winters had one of the more promising seasons. The former Baylor commit decided to join Duquesne last spring, becoming a pivotal piece in the program's rebuilding process under new coach Jim Ferry. Along with Derrick Colter and Jeremiah Jones, the core of Ferry's first recruiting class proved promising, and there was hope that their second season on the Bluff would yield a vast improvement in terms of the team's development and also in the conference standings. It was a surprise, then, to learn that Winters, a 6-foot-5 wing who converted 54 percent of his twos and 38 percent of his threes (and whose percentage of shots taken ranked third on the team), intended to transfer.
According to various accounts, a death in Winters' family during the season influenced his decision, and the soon-to-be-sophomore is seeking to attend a school closer to his Milwaukee home. It will be interesting to see what programs begin to stand-out for the star frosh; certainly Winters demonstrated he could be a feature player on a non-BCS squad, but since he seems like the prototypical 'switchable', a term coined by coach Buzz Williams to define players who can play multiple positions on the court, might Winters be a fit at Marquette? Although there was a feeling among Dukes' supporters that Winters relied too often on his perimeter shooting, he has proven he has the potential to be a consistent three-point threat, and his ability to get to the rim off the bounce fits Williams' gameplan of an efficient offense being generated by consistent paint touches. There will undoubtedly be other schools in the mix for Winters, so we will continue to pursue any additional programs that might become a potential college home for the wing."
Quote from: Litehouse on April 16, 2013, 09:33:34 AM
Anyone know anything about Alex Brown from San Jose State? I was just looking through the transfer list to see what might fit. I have no idea if there's any interest either way.
6-11 Jr, originally from Mr. Vernon, Ill. Looks like he played 2 years at a Juco and then went to SJSU for 1 year. If he transfers I assume he'd have to sit out a year and then have one year of eligibility. Averaged 4.6ppg and 4.7 rpg in 21 mpg at SJSU last year. He could sit out next year (2013-24), then fill the void after Oxtule leaves the following year (2014-15), and clear the deck for Stone in 2015-16.
http://www.sjsuspartans.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=5600&ATCLID=205725716
SJSU was horrible.
You don't want ANYONE from that team.
Back to Buzz...
I think Buzz really makes his players earn their time.
Some think they're going to get it but don't.
Those who don't, get disappointed and leave.
Yet there are those who don't, work harder and play.
Buzz knows his handful of guys he's going to go with. The past years it was Junior, Jimmy, Jae, DJO, Vander.
Now it's Jamil, Davante, Otule, and now maybe Steve.
Quote from: Groin_pull on April 16, 2013, 08:24:54 AM
No. More. Guards.
We have a far more immediate need for guards than bigs. If we're taking a one-year transfer, I would much sooner have a guard than a 7-footer.
Quote from: brewcity77 on April 16, 2013, 02:58:05 PM
We have a far more immediate need for guards than bigs. If we're taking a one-year transfer, I would much sooner have a guard than a 7-footer.
lol...how times have changed...
Ooops,posted by someone else while I was reading.
http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/mens-college-basketball/rumors/post?id=3521
Of all the newcomers to the Atlantic 10 in 2012-13, Quevyn Winters had one of the more promising seasons. The former Baylor commit decided to join Duquesne last spring, becoming a pivotal piece in the program's rebuilding process under new coach Jim Ferry. Along with Derrick Colter and Jeremiah Jones, the core of Ferry's first recruiting class proved promising, and there was hope that their second season on the Bluff would yield a vast improvement in terms of the team's development and also in the conference standings. It was a surprise, then, to learn that Winters, a 6-foot-5 wing who converted 54 percent of his twos and 38 percent of his threes (and whose percentage of shots taken ranked third on the team), intended to transfer.
According to various accounts, a death in Winters' family during the season influenced his decision, and the soon-to-be-sophomore is seeking to attend a school closer to his Milwaukee home. It will be interesting to see what programs begin to stand-out for the star frosh; certainly Winters demonstrated he could be a feature player on a non-BCS squad, but since he seems like the prototypical 'switchable', a term coined by coach Buzz Williams to define players who can play multiple positions on the court, might Winters be a fit at Marquette? Although there was a feeling among Dukes' supporters that Winters relied too often on his perimeter shooting, he has proven he has the potential to be a consistent three-point threat, and his ability to get to the rim off the bounce fits Williams' gameplan of an efficient offense being generated by consistent paint touches. There will undoubtedly be other schools in the mix for Winters, so we will continue to pursue any additional programs that might become a potential college home for the wing.
Quote from: brewcity77 on April 16, 2013, 02:58:05 PM
We have a far more immediate need for guards than bigs. If we're taking a one-year transfer, I would much sooner have a guard than a 7-footer.
1: D.Wilson/D.Wilson/Dawson
2: Mayo/JJJ
3: Jamil/Burton
4: McKay/Taylor
5: Otule/Gardner
I don't think either area necessarily has a more immediate need for next year. For a one-year transfer I don't think it makes a difference, either would be fine. But for a regular transfer that would sit out next year, we have a FAR greater need for bigs the following year.
Quote from: Litehouse on April 16, 2013, 03:17:17 PM
1: D.Wilson/D.Wilson/Dawson
2: Mayo/JJJ
3: Jamil/Burton
4: McKay/Taylor
5: Otule/Gardner
I don't think either area necessarily has a more immediate need for next year. For a one-year transfer I don't think it makes a difference, either would be fine. But for a regular transfer that would sit out next year, we have a FAR greater need for bigs the following year.
Astarting guard lineup of Mayo and De. Wilson is not awe inspiring. We are definitely going to ned points next year, which is why we will need Gardner to start at PF and play 30 minutes a game. IMO Du. Wilson should start from day 1, and Triple J will need plenty of minutes to score and get up to speed. Mayo is way too inconsistent.
Quote from: willie warrior on April 16, 2013, 04:39:27 PM
Astarting guard lineup of Mayo and De. Wilson is not awe inspiring. We are definitely going to ned points next year, which is why we will need Gardner to start at PF and play 30 minutes a game. IMO Du. Wilson should start from day 1, and Triple J will need plenty of minutes to score and get up to speed. Mayo is way too inconsistent.
Why are you so obsessed with who "starts"? Hasn't Buzz shown you that starting has little correlation with actual minutes played or who closes the game? Anderson and Otule started last year, but JWilson always and Gardner mostly got more minutes and were in the game at crunch time. Lose the starter hangup.
Teddy Greenstein just tweeted Drew Crawford from Northwestern is being pursued hard by Marquette and Mizzou.
Quote from: Litehouse on April 16, 2013, 03:17:17 PM
1: D.Wilson/D.Wilson/Dawson
2: Mayo/JJJ
3: Jamil/Burton
4: McKay/Taylor
5: Otule/Gardner
The 5 guards listed have on average 0.8 years of college experience. The 6 front court players have an average of 2.5 years of college experience. If we get a 1-year transfer, a guard would be much more desirable because we need that experience now.
Quote from: LAZER on April 16, 2013, 04:55:50 PM
Teddy Greenstein just tweeted Drew Crawford from Northwestern is being pursued hard by Marquette and Mizzou.
Has Crawford even announced he is leaving?
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 16, 2013, 05:06:23 PM
Has Crawford even announced he is leaving?
Haven't seen it anywhere, but he's eligible to play right away and it appears to be a solid rumor right now. He might be my top transfer choice, could help A LOT in the shooting dept.
It appears Drew can seriously shoot the rock. Sign me up!
Quote from: Jajuannaman on April 16, 2013, 04:42:40 PM
Why are you so obsessed with who "starts"? Hasn't Buzz shown you that starting has little correlation with actual minutes played or who closes the game? Anderson and Otule started last year, but JWilson always and Gardner mostly got more minutes and were in the game at crunch time. Lose the starter hangup.
Thank you for your advice. Lose your hangup about my so called "obsession". Most kids want to start. We had no offense apart from Gardner in the 39 point debacle with Syracuse. Gardner will need 30 minutes per game to make up for the loss of points. If he does not start--fine, but we will need close to 30 minutes per game for the scoring.
Quote from: Groin_pull on April 16, 2013, 05:14:50 PM
It appears Drew can seriously shoot the rock. Sign me up!
I could've sworn you just asked for us to not recruit anymore guards...
Quote from: willie warrior on April 16, 2013, 05:18:17 PM
Thank you for your advice. Lose your hangup about my so called "obsession". Most kids want to start. We had no offense apart from Gardner in the 39 point debacle with Syracuse. Gardner will need 30 minutes per game to make up for the loss of points. If he does not start--fine, but we will need close to 30 minutes per game for the scoring.
Just like we weren't going to be able to score this year with Jae and DJO leaving. Well, we made the Elite 8.
MJ isn't at UNC. Bill Walton isn't at UCLA. Players graduate and go pro. Teams survive. Marquette will survive.
Quote from: Groin_pull on April 16, 2013, 05:14:50 PM
It appears Drew can seriously shoot the rock. Sign me up!
He's less than 40% from 3. What do you consider good for shooting?
Quote from: LAZER on April 16, 2013, 05:11:00 PM
Haven't seen it anywhere, but he's eligible to play right away and it appears to be a solid rumor right now. He might be my top transfer choice, could help A LOT in the shooting dept.
My point is if he is still with Northwestern and hasn't left the program, yet, some might construe that as tampering. I hope your report is wrong unless he has stated he is leaving the Northwestern program....which maybe he has privately and it hasn't come to light yet publicly.
Last I had seen, Collins was hoping that Crawford was going to stay at Northwestern and Jim Phillips had echoed similar comments. I wouldn't blame him for leaving, he can play his one final year at another school without penalty.
https://twitter.com/TeddyGreenstein
Quote from: LAZER on April 16, 2013, 04:55:50 PM
Teddy Greenstein just tweeted Drew Crawford from Northwestern is being pursued hard by Marquette and Mizzou.
Would be a good addition, I remember seeing him as an late first/early second rounder in some mocks this past preseason.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 16, 2013, 05:21:25 PM
My point is if he is still with Northwestern and hasn't left the program, yet, some might construe that as tampering. I hope your report is wrong unless he has stated he is leaving the Northwestern program....which maybe he has privately and it hasn't come to light yet publicly.
Last I had seen, Collins was hoping that Crawford was going to stay at Northwestern and Jim Phillips had echoed similar comments. I wouldn't blame him for leaving, he can play his one final year at another school without penalty.
https://twitter.com/TeddyGreenstein
Blog on Crawford dated March 29 seems to make it like he is still up in the air unless you have new info: http://www.sippinonpurple.com/northwestern-wildcats-basketball/2013/3/29/4160038/drew-crawford-transfer-northwestern-injury-redshirt
Also, what are the rules for a 5th year? Does he have to declare he's not going back to the original schools before asking around to other schools? Or is it automatic once he graduates he can make himself sort of a FA and visit other schools?
That's why I said some might construe it as tampering. I know if he was at MU and other schools were rumored to be going after him, we would be beside ourselves and pissed off...that I know for sure. ;D
From what I understand, he can take a few recruiting trips at this stage (three, max, I believe), so I suspect he can do what he wants, but I'm not sure of the mechanics of it. Do you have to declare you might leave so you can take the recruiting trips? That's why I asked if he has stated his intentions or not, or if he has come out and said he is leaving. I'd be curious, just as you are, what the process is.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 16, 2013, 05:46:27 PM
That's why I said some might construe it as tampering. I know if he was at MU and other schools were rumored to be going after him, we would be beside ourselves and pissed off...that I know for sure. ;D
From what I understand, he can take a few recruiting trips at this stage (three, max, I believe), so I suspect he can do what he wants, but I'm not sure of the mechanics of it. Do you have to declare you might leave so you can take the recruiting trips? That's why I asked if he has stated his intentions or not, or if he has come out and said he is leaving. I'd be curious, just as you are, what the process is.
Yeah, I couldn't imagine Lockett leaving ASU without assurances from MU or another major program. Though I did always find it amazing a scholarship opened a few hours before Wilson stated he was leaving Oregon. ;)
Quote from: wadesworld on April 16, 2013, 05:18:35 PM
I could've sworn you just asked for us to not recruit anymore guards...
You're right (thanks for noticing)...but I'll waive that for a guy who can consistently hit a three-pointer.
Crawford at MU would be HUGE! Sign him and Black or another big and we're a betterteam than we would have been. IMHO
Quote from: Groin_pull on April 16, 2013, 05:55:52 PM
You're right (thanks for noticing)...but I'll waive that for a guy who can consistently hit a three-pointer.
again.. he's less than 40% from 3. Jamil shot 36% this year. Are you hoping for a Novak, Hulls, Diener? Because you're going to be disappointed.
12-13: 37.0%
11-12: 41.2%
10-11: 32.7%
09-10: 34.2%
Quote from: wadesworld on April 16, 2013, 01:51:27 PM
Yeah, forget guards. Let's fill our 4 2014 openings with 4 centers. ::)
That's not what he said.
Quote from: jesmu84 on April 16, 2013, 06:16:21 PM
again.. he's less than 40% from 3. Jamil shot 36% this year. Are you hoping for a Novak, Hulls, Diener? Because you're going to be disappointed.
12-13: 37.0%
11-12: 41.2%
10-11: 32.7%
09-10: 34.2%
I wouldn't count 2012-2013 since he played 10 games. A couple nights of 0-4 and 1-5 had a major impact in lowering the %.
My bigger concern would be if the shoulder injury effects his form at all.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 16, 2013, 05:21:25 PM
My point is if he is still with Northwestern and hasn't left the program, yet, some might construe that as tampering. I hope your report is wrong unless he has stated he is leaving the Northwestern program....which maybe he has privately and it hasn't come to light yet publicly.
Last I had seen, Collins was hoping that Crawford was going to stay at Northwestern and Jim Phillips had echoed similar comments. I wouldn't blame him for leaving, he can play his one final year at another school without penalty.
https://twitter.com/TeddyGreenstein
Yeah I knew what you were getting at I just wanted clarify I hadn't seen it anywhere official yet.
There has to be some sort if communication allowed during a coaching change right?
Quote from: jesmu84 on April 16, 2013, 06:16:21 PM
again.. he's less than 40% from 3. Jamil shot 36% this year. Are you hoping for a Novak, Hulls, Diener? Because you're going to be disappointed.
12-13: 37.0%
11-12: 41.2%
10-11: 32.7%
09-10: 34.2%
41.2 is good enough to be the best 3pt shooter in the Big East. I'll take that. It's better than DJO ever shot too.
3 point percentage has a lot to do with shot selection as well. Safe to say Marquette will create more open looks than Northwestern.
Paint Touches just tweeted
"Information was wrong on Drew Crawford via Chicago Tribune. #mubb hasn't had contact/shown interest. He's still enrolled at Northwestern"
^^^That reads like an official statement from MU to a willing journalist. Not sure where it came from but my guess is MU just didn't want negative press.
Quote from: gmhfordham1015 on April 16, 2013, 06:53:15 PM
Paint Touches just tweeted
"Information was wrong on Drew Crawford via Chicago Tribune. #mubb hasn't had contact/shown interest. He's still enrolled at Northwestern"
Nothing to see here... move on. ::)
Teddy Greenstrein is pretty solid on the NW beat, I'm guessing he's got a good idea of what's going on in that program.
Quote from: LAZER on April 16, 2013, 06:29:35 PM
41.2 is good enough to be the best 3pt shooter in the Big East. I'll take that. It's better than DJO ever shot too.
+1. I'll take a 37-40% shooter every day.
Heard Tenessee Vols are 2 or 3 oversigned for next year
Drew is staying at Northwestern
Quote from: insidetheleague on April 16, 2013, 07:19:26 PM
Drew is staying at Northwestern
Why mess up a perfect four year run of no NCAA appearances?
I would love to have Crawford. He would be a damn good pickup if this was true at all.
Quote from: LittleMurs on April 16, 2013, 08:07:52 PM
Why mess up a perfect four year run of no NCAA appearances?
That program is going to turn around under Coach Collins. All those kids love him so far.
Quote from: insidetheleague on April 16, 2013, 08:12:30 PM
That program is going to turn around under Coach Collins. All those kids love him so far.
Sure, Collins will get it turned around. But Drew only has one more year left. And next year's team ain't going dancing.
Quote from: LittleMurs on April 16, 2013, 08:07:52 PM
Why mess up a perfect four year run of no NCAA appearances?
Awesome.
Quote from: BareChestedBuzz on April 16, 2013, 02:27:07 PM
2013 PG Trey Dickerson from Texas tweeted that Marquette is now involved
https://twitter.com/Dat_boy_TD
Also, possible interest in Duquense Frosh Quevyn Winters? From ESPN Rumors:
"Of all the newcomers to the Atlantic 10 in 2012-13, Quevyn Winters had one of the more promising seasons. The former Baylor commit decided to join Duquesne last spring, becoming a pivotal piece in the program's rebuilding process under new coach Jim Ferry. Along with Derrick Colter and Jeremiah Jones, the core of Ferry's first recruiting class proved promising, and there was hope that their second season on the Bluff would yield a vast improvement in terms of the team's development and also in the conference standings. It was a surprise, then, to learn that Winters, a 6-foot-5 wing who converted 54 percent of his twos and 38 percent of his threes (and whose percentage of shots taken ranked third on the team), intended to transfer.
According to various accounts, a death in Winters' family during the season influenced his decision, and the soon-to-be-sophomore is seeking to attend a school closer to his Milwaukee home. It will be interesting to see what programs begin to stand-out for the star frosh; certainly Winters demonstrated he could be a feature player on a non-BCS squad, but since he seems like the prototypical 'switchable', a term coined by coach Buzz Williams to define players who can play multiple positions on the court, might Winters be a fit at Marquette? Although there was a feeling among Dukes' supporters that Winters relied too often on his perimeter shooting, he has proven he has the potential to be a consistent three-point threat, and his ability to get to the rim off the bounce fits Williams' gameplan of an efficient offense being generated by consistent paint touches. There will undoubtedly be other schools in the mix for Winters, so we will continue to pursue any additional programs that might become a potential college home for the wing."
Sorry, but I don't get this. 3 point guards in the same class?
BTW, Dickerson is from NY, not Texas. He plays at a Los Angeles area prep school.
Quote from: insidetheleague on April 16, 2013, 08:12:30 PM
That program is going to turn around under Coach Collins. All those kids love him so far.
Until Doug Collins shows up...
Quote from: LittleMurs on April 16, 2013, 08:33:32 PM
Sure, Collins will get it turned around. But Drew only has one more year left. And next year's team ain't going dancing.
True, I wish he would transfer somewhere, especially MU, but he's not planning on it.
Quote from: brewcity77 on April 16, 2013, 04:56:01 PM
The 5 guards listed have on average 0.8 years of college experience. The 6 front court players have an average of 2.5 years of college experience. If we get a 1-year transfer, a guard would be much more desirable because we need that experience now.
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You are dead on with your math.
Every game we play next year, that number goes up for the guards (and others too). ;D. Multiply that by a factor greater than one, cause they play for Buzz.
Trey Dickerson @Dat_boy_TD 21h
Marquette now involved
For those having trouble reading through all his retweets. Seemed to retweet Duane Wilson and Paint Touches a ton.
What is this guy like? No rankings on Scout or ESPN from what I can tell. Seems to have decent size for a PG.
Quote from: martyconlonontherun on April 17, 2013, 10:28:54 AM
Trey Dickerson @Dat_boy_TD 21h
Marquette now involved
For those having trouble reading through all his retweets. Seemed to retweet Duane Wilson and Paint Touches a ton.
What is this guy like? No rankings on Scout or ESPN from what I can tell. Seems to have decent size for a PG.
He's probably like Jake Thomas...
Quote from: Rockmic87 on April 17, 2013, 11:36:47 AM
He's probably like Jake Thomas...
Apparently UCLA is looking at him.
Quote from: MUFanatic4Life on April 16, 2013, 05:22:56 PM
Would be a good addition, I remember seeing him as an late first/early second rounder in some mocks this past preseason.
So Drew Crawford is even better than Vander?
Quote from: BrewCity BallCrusher on April 17, 2013, 11:44:46 AM
So Drew Crawford is even better than Vander?
The guy had a great junior year comparable to Blue. Different skill sets so you really can't compare too much. If he comes back from his shoulder injury, he could provide an outside threat Blue couldn't opening up the lane for our other wings and the big guys. That said, not many people have the balls Blue has in late game situations.
Quote from: martyconlonontherun on April 17, 2013, 11:47:07 AM
The guy had a great junior year comparable to Blue. Different skill sets so you really can't compare too much. If he comes back from his shoulder injury, he could provide an outside threat Blue couldn't opening up the lane for our other wings and the big guys. That said, not many people have the balls Blue has in late game situations.
So he'd be like our version of Nick Stauskus?
I think it is time to forget this story as it is a non-story until Drew gets his release from Northwestern which he seems he will not, on to the next player. Was MU and Florida St.
tampering? How does his name even be mentioned without some type of leak?
Quote from: insidetheleague on April 16, 2013, 07:19:26 PM
Drew is staying at Northwestern
A Northwestern degree would be a strong deterrent to leaving.
Quote from: Marqevans on April 17, 2013, 03:20:23 PM
A Northwestern degree would be a strong deterrent to leaving.
Didn't he already graduate?
Quote from: Marqevans on April 17, 2013, 03:20:23 PM
A Northwestern degree would be a strong deterrent to leaving.
Has it.
Was perusing youtube and came across an interview of Crawford. Another impressive kid. Much like Lockett in that manner.
Quote from: insidetheleague on April 16, 2013, 08:12:30 PM
That program is going to turn around under Coach Collins. All those kids love him so far.
Yeah they love him now. The honeymoon is ripe until they lose a few games and Collins like his pop will SNAP!
Quote from: MUHoopsFan2 on April 18, 2013, 06:17:23 AM
Yeah they love him now. The honeymoon is ripe until they lose a few games and Collins like his pop will SNAP!
+1
every coach with a 0 and 0 record is loved.
Quote from: MUHoopsFan2 on April 18, 2013, 06:17:23 AM
Yeah they love him now. The honeymoon is ripe until they lose a few games and Collins like his pop will SNAP!
Doug's his father?
Thought is was Phil?
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 18, 2013, 08:49:47 AM
Joan is the father
Tom was his Uncle. He once was very popular at the bars.
Barnabas is his un-dead uncle.
his grandad Tom is a lush
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1435977
Kentucky just got three more recruits and now have eight.
They have five of the top 11 recruits in the country coming in. Just unreal and some calling this the best recruiting class in history.
MU still in top 10.
Quote from: nyg on April 18, 2013, 06:33:32 PM
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1435977
Kentucky just got three more recruits and now have eight.
They have five of the top 11 recruits in the country coming in. Just unreal and some calling this the best recruiting class in history.
So what happens when they return to the NIT?
Where can I find out more about our recruiting situation. It seems like other schools (i.e. KU, UK, Duke, UNC, etc.) your able to get a detailed rundown of who is being recruited and whats going on.
Quote from: Captain Awesome on April 18, 2013, 08:54:18 PM
So what happens when they return to the NIT?
They beat the likes of Robert Morris and advance to the second round.
Quote from: 6Under20 on April 18, 2013, 10:35:42 PM
They beat the likes of Robert Morris and advance to the second round.
Where they lose to.........??
Big events this weekend in Dallas (adidas) and LA (Nike EYBL), but some good ones in the snow-covered Twin Cities as well. Tonight I'll be taking in Myles Turner & Texas Select vs. Kevon Looney & the Milwaukee Rebels... right after that game big Diamond hits the court in a 16U game.
Will be viewing a number of potential MU kids this weekend and beyond... some updates will be at @jbbauer612 on Twitter, more in depth stuff later at LateNightHoops.com (@latenighthoops Twitter)...
Hope you got your Warrior gear on. Shout out to Kevon for me.
Quote from: nyg on April 18, 2013, 06:33:32 PM
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1435977
Kentucky just got three more recruits and now have eight.
They have five of the top 11 recruits in the country coming in. Just unreal and some calling this the best recruiting class in history.
MU still in top 10.
Interesting to see SMU up there amongst the big dogs.
"RT @sphillipshoops: Georgetown, Duke & Wisconsin have tracked 2015 C Diamond Stone hardest. JTIII the only head guy today."
I honestly question sometimes if MU recruits guys hard enough. One thing I've noticed is that despite being a premier program, Kansas, for example, is ALWAYS on their hustle recruiting players. I get the sense that MU does not go hard after some of these players, which is why we strike out a lot (i.e. Embiid).
Quote from: Rockmic87 on April 22, 2013, 01:31:20 PM
"RT @sphillipshoops: Georgetown, Duke & Wisconsin have tracked 2015 C Diamond Stone hardest. JTIII the only head guy today."
I honestly question sometimes if MU recruits guys hard enough. One thing I've noticed is that despite being a premier program, Kansas, for example, is ALWAYS on their hustle recruiting players. I get the sense that MU does not go hard after some of these players, which is why we strike out a lot (i.e. Embiid).
How do we know this is true. How many UW games has Stone been to as compared to MU games?
Quote from: Rockmic87 on April 22, 2013, 01:31:20 PM
"RT @sphillipshoops: Georgetown, Duke & Wisconsin have tracked 2015 C Diamond Stone hardest. JTIII the only head guy today."
I honestly question sometimes if MU recruits guys hard enough. One thing I've noticed is that despite being a premier program, Kansas, for example, is ALWAYS on their hustle recruiting players. I get the sense that MU does not go hard after some of these players, which is why we strike out a lot (i.e. Embiid).
Obviously, you didn't follow the Embiid recruitment very closely. MU was on Embiid a long time before Kansas got involved, and continued to recruit him hard to the end. For details, search Embiid's name on MUScoop's search function.
If you need further assurance, check out how MU got back involved with JaJuan Johnson after we nearly lost him due to three assistant coaches leaving last year. Considering that Buzz lost all three of his assistants last year, the 2013 class is even more impressive. And buzz's best recruiting job last year probably was getting assistant coach Issac Chew away from Illinois after he had been there only a couple of months.
Quote from: Rockmic87 on April 22, 2013, 01:31:20 PM
"RT @sphillipshoops: Georgetown, Duke & Wisconsin have tracked 2015 C Diamond Stone hardest. JTIII the only head guy today."
I honestly question sometimes if MU recruits guys hard enough. One thing I've noticed is that despite being a premier program, Kansas, for example, is ALWAYS on their hustle recruiting players. I get the sense that MU does not go hard after some of these players, which is why we strike out a lot (i.e. Embiid).
Your Embiid example is way off. Buzz pulled out all the stops on him, and rightfully so. I wouldn't be shocked to see him in the NBA fall of 2015. RE: Stone, we have the inside track being the hometown program with his best friend in the fold. He's in open gyms at MU and at the Bradley Center all the time, and Buzz has been to a ton of Dominican games. We don't need to fly out to
every one of his AAU games, especially when Buzz has been all over the country offering Stone's potential teammates the last week. Some REALLY big names, by the way. If anything, Buzz has been known to land recruits because he works the hardest to build a relationship. See Jajuan Johnson, for example.
Quote from: nyg on April 18, 2013, 06:33:32 PM
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1435977
Kentucky just got three more recruits and now have eight.
They have five of the top 11 recruits in the country coming in. Just unreal and some calling this the best recruiting class in history.
MU still in top 10.
Hard to believe the NCAA is not sniffing around in Lexington.