1. VB
2. JW
Wow. That kind of play will get us bounced early from both the BET and the NCAAs. Lucky to escape. On to the Johnnies.
None of the above. Is Father Kelly an option?
Lockett for his game winning floor dive assist.
Ugly. Blue by default. For the record, the next time Sultan asks when the last time Jamil beat somebody off of the dribble, the answer is the Rutgers game.
Lockett just for that hustle at the end of the game.
Rutgers.
Blue tied game and then decided to lead even if it was ugly!
Quote from: Warriors10 on March 05, 2013, 08:11:12 PM
Lockett just for that hustle at the end of the game.
+1
VB
JW for showing some effort to get to the hoop.
Jamal. He did nothing to upset me.
Vander had 22 points, was 8 for 16 from field and 5 for 5 from free throws, including those final two. Something Junior cannot do.
Only bad was 4 turnovers, some of which were real ugly.
Not even close. Vander
VB
JW
Quote from: tower912 on March 05, 2013, 08:10:46 PM
Ugly. Blue by default. For the record, the next time Sultan asks when the last time Jamil beat somebody off of the dribble, the answer is the Rutgers game.
Hey, I smiled when he did that!
Vander is SOTG. People were asking where he was...and he showed up.
Fr. Kelly.
Blue. Taylor had a good minute but was killed on defense and the defensive boards the whole game. D Wilson had a few nice plays, Cadougan was solid until he missed 2 of 3 big FTs and J Wilson was pretty good.
Quote from: Bricky on March 05, 2013, 08:13:08 PM
Jamal. He did nothing to upset me.
What did Jake and Dylan do that offended you so??
why did they score so easy on the inside?
VB
Blue. Can never fault someone for taking charge when somebody needs to. 22 points on 50% shooting and 5-5 FT with 4 TO; the rest of the team 38 points on 34% shooting and 7-15 and 10 TO.
NM
Gah! I almost want to go with Stevie Taylor for his unreal minute in the first half.
Vander, I suppose...although he played shitty at times.
Steve Taylor. First half 7-0 run kept us in the game. Vander played well, but I really think Steve kept us from falling off the cliff.
Vander Blue
Vander Blue. Hit a big three to tie it and two clutch free throws near the end.
Blue
J Wilson
S Taylor
Jamil Wilson made the difference.
Looked like it was going to Jamil but I'll give it to Vander.
Vander
Quote from: real chili 83 on March 05, 2013, 08:10:20 PM
Lockett for his game winning floor dive assist.
Blue for sure. He score over a third of our points on a slow night. JWilson for second.
This was actually a bad play by Lockett. He should have let the Rutgers player touch it as it would have been a backcourt violation for Marq ball. If he did touch it and not get possession then Rutgers would have been able to keep possession. Theoretically we could have turned it over on the in bounds but there were always what ifs
Regardless Blue was the man.
Nobody's gonna mention Wilson hustling back to block a shot on a breakaway, and then burying a three on the other end? Big momentum changer.
Quote from: BallBoy on March 05, 2013, 08:23:55 PM
Blue for sure. He score over a third of our points on a slow night. JWilson for second.
This was actually a bad play by Lockett. He should have let the Rutgers player touch it as it would have been a backcourt violation for Marq ball. If he did touch it and not get possession then Rutgers would have been able to keep possession. Theoretically we could have turned it over on the in bounds but there were always what ifs
Regardless Blue was the man.
Jim Burr would have probably missed the call.
Quote from: LittleMurs on March 05, 2013, 08:25:33 PM
Nobody's gonna mention Wilson hustling back to block a shot on a breakaway, and then burying a three on the other end. Big momentum changer.
This.
Quote from: Eye on March 05, 2013, 08:09:12 PM
None of the above. Is Father Kelly an option?
Buzz just said that on the post-game show
Quote from: Blueprint on March 05, 2013, 08:18:03 PM
why did they score so easy on the inside?
Chill SOTG query brah.
Blue... Wilson close second.
Quote from: muwarrior97 on March 05, 2013, 08:43:44 PM
Buzz just said that on the post-game show
After hearing that story I vote for Father Kelly (again).
Jamil Wilson. Vander Blue made baonehead plays, selfish plays, and turnovers the whole game. Jamil was more clutch, even with Blue's free throws at the end. Blue was the leading scorer because he shot so many freaking times.
Blue. As maddening as his TOs were at times, he was the only one that could put the biscuit in the basket in a game where we sorely needed it.
JWilson #2 for his two huge threes and two huge takes to the rim - one a lefty finish, the other a nice dish to Gardner. He can't get SOTG though for passing up a wide open three in rhythm to fire a laser to Derrick freaking Wilson under the hoop. Thought he learned his lesson after Villanova. He's our best three point shooter. If he's open on a kick out, I want him thinking shoot as the first, second, and third option. There is no fourth option. Aside from that, he has really turned the corner recently and is playing with a much more aggressive mindset. Really like where his game is trending at the right time of the year.
Quote from: LightBlueJerseys on March 05, 2013, 08:50:17 PM
Jamil Wilson. Vander Blue made baonehead plays, selfish plays, and turnovers the whole game. Jamil was more clutch, even with Blue's free throws at the end. Blue was the leading scorer because he shot so many freaking times.
No doubt Wilson played well, but.. what selfish plays? 4 turnovers is fine. I'm perfectly ok with having a kid shoot 16 times if he makes 50%, you aren't?
Quote from: LightBlueJerseys on March 05, 2013, 08:50:17 PM
Jamil Wilson. Vander Blue made baonehead plays, selfish plays, and turnovers the whole game. Jamil was more clutch, even with Blue's free throws at the end. Blue was the leading scorer because he shot so many freaking times.
Blue had four turnovers. Too many, but not that much more than Jamil's 2. Not as bad as you portray.
Blue shot the ball 16 times, but hit 8 of them. Jamil shot the ball 10 times, and hit 4 of them.
Jamil was great again tonight. Blue was better. SOTG.
Quote from: jesmu84 on March 05, 2013, 08:52:04 PM
No doubt Wilson played well, but.. what selfish plays? 4 turnovers is fine. I'm perfectly ok with having a kid shoot 16 times if he makes 50%, you aren't?
Go back and watch Blue's fast breaks. There were plenty of times where Blue took the ball to the rack with an open Jamil, Junior, etc., next to him.
Quote from: LightBlueJerseys on March 05, 2013, 08:54:21 PM
Go back and watch Blue's fast breaks. There were plenty of times where Blue took the ball to the rack with an open Jamil, Junior, etc., next to him.
And how many of those did he miss that the other guys would definitely have made?
Did Blue play a perfect game? No. And he never does. And is never going to. But he played well enough (and better than just about everyone else on the floor) to get us to a W. Can you imagine what tonight would have been like if he wasn't on the floor?
Quote from: LightBlueJerseys on March 05, 2013, 08:54:21 PM
Go back and watch Blue's fast breaks. There were plenty of times where Blue took the ball to the rack with an open Jamil, Junior, etc., next to him.
Next to the "slap of five" criticism, this might be the most ridiculous complaint I have heard about Blue.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on March 05, 2013, 08:59:01 PM
Next to the "slap of five" criticism, this might be the most ridiculous complaint I have heard about Blue.
Agreed.
Quote from: jesmu84 on March 05, 2013, 08:57:24 PM
Did Blue play a perfect game? No. And he never does. And is never going to. But he played well enough (and better than just about everyone else on the floor) to get us to a W. Can you imagine what tonight would have been like if he wasn't on the floor?
I get your point but his USF game was a thing of beauty.
Quote from: LightBlueJerseys on March 05, 2013, 08:54:21 PM
Go back and watch Blue's fast breaks. There were plenty of times where Blue took the ball to the rack with an open Jamil, Junior, etc., next to him.
Then he made the right choice taking it himself. If it is a 2-on-1 and Blue has the ball and Junior is coming up on the wing, I hope Vander attacks. If it is Jamil, it depends on the angles, but unless the defense completely attacks Vander, I am perfectly content with him taking it in.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on March 05, 2013, 08:59:01 PM
Next to the "slap of five" criticism, this might be the most ridiculous complaint I have heard about Blue.
Mehhh...that "slap of five" dumpster fire was in a completely
different galaxy.
Quote from: lab_warrior on March 05, 2013, 09:03:54 PM
Mehhh...that "slap of five" dumpster fire was in a completely
different galaxy.
Even for a board in meltdown mode the "slap of five" was pretty insane.
Ya'll asked why I said "selfish plays," and I delivered. Im just tired of Blue putting his head down out of control running into three defenders in the paint. Its whatever, I dont care, we won. But I know someone has to feel me a little. I think Jamil deserves SoG.
But Jamil made stupid turnovers, too, as did Junior. The good far outweighed the bad for Blue tonight.
Blue.
Quote from: LightBlueJerseys on March 05, 2013, 09:07:01 PM
Ya'll asked why I said "selfish plays," and I delivered. Im just tired of Blue putting his head down out of control running into three defenders in the paint. Its whatever, I dont care, we won. But I know someone has to feel me a little. I think Jamil deserves SoG.
. He's 2nd. Blue's first. Next game.
Quote from: LightBlueJerseys on March 05, 2013, 09:07:01 PM
Ya'll asked why I said "selfish plays," and I delivered. Im just tired of Blue putting his head down out of control running into three defenders in the paint. Its whatever, I dont care, we won. But I know someone has to feel me a little. I think Jamil deserves SoG.
um... fast breaks don't involve 3 defenders in the paint. Having said that, there were a couple times tonight where "old/bad" Vander returned and tried to force his way to the rim. But it was never on a fast break and never when anyone else was open.
Not his greatest game, but i's Vander.
Blue, Wilson second.
It's beyond me how anyone who watched all 40 minutes could suggest Lockett. ?-(
Quote from: LittleMurs on March 05, 2013, 08:25:33 PM
Nobody's gonna mention Wilson hustling back to block a shot on a breakaway, and then burying a three on the other end? Big momentum changer.
That was huge
Vander. He was the one constant tonight. The turnovers sucked, but he kept us in it early and sealed it late.
Quote from: Sir Lawrence on March 05, 2013, 08:40:59 PM
This.
Nested "This"
Sorry Van, welcome to the 3-timers club J-Wil.
Everyone had bone-head moments tonight.
Blue with 22 points gets my vote for SotG.
Quote from: LightBlueJerseys on March 05, 2013, 09:07:01 PM
Ya'll asked why I said "selfish plays," and I delivered. Im just tired of Blue putting his head down out of control running into three defenders in the paint. Its whatever, I dont care, we won. But I know someone has to feel me a little. I think Jamil deserves SoG.
Because it's better than nobody trying to take control of the game. A dead ball turnover from trying to create something versus a desperate bad shot because the offense was stagnant for 35 seconds - is the turnover really worse? I'll give props to the kid who wanted the team on his back...and his numbers suggest he was the best one for the job tonight. Sure he shot a ton, but I wouldn't want to redistribute half his shots to guys who just weren't in the flow and hope they came away with a better result - a better ideal on a night when things are working, which wasn't tonight.
I kinda love how people are bashing Van even though he hit the trey bomb to finally tie it and had 22 points on 50% FG & 100% FT shooting. He has a game like that last year or freshman year and everyone goes apesh*t with excitement. Shows how far he's come.
Jamil had a nice game but it's Vander, without question. Anyone picking someone else is, for whatever reason, simply trying to find a reason not to pick Vander.
Quote from: LightBlueJerseys on March 05, 2013, 08:54:21 PM
Go back and watch Blue's fast breaks. There were plenty of times where Blue took the ball to the rack with an open Jamil, Junior, etc., next to him.
I assume you are referencing the play in this highlight. If you notice Blue is about five feet from Jr after he picks up the ball and is heading to the basket. Jr is backing away from Blue towards the corner. Had Blue passed it Jr would settled for a jumper or backed it out as there were two defenders. Blue made the right play and had the better shot
http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/recap?gameId=330640164
You also conveniently leave out that Blue stoled the ball.
Quote from: BallBoy on March 05, 2013, 10:17:28 PM
I assume you are referencing the play in this highlight. If you notice Blue is about five feet from Jr after he picks up the ball and is heading to the basket. Jr is backing away from Blue towards the corner. Had Blue passed it Jr would settled for a jumper or backed it out as there were two defenders. Blue made the right play and had the better shot
http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/recap?gameId=330640164
You also conveniently leave out that Blue stoled the ball.
Don't bring your facts and evidence into this! It doesn't fit the narrative! Didn't you see the 3 defenders waiting for Vander under the basket? And how he just put his head down and ignored all his teammates?
Quote from: BallBoy on March 05, 2013, 10:17:28 PM
I assume you are referencing the play in this highlight. If you notice Blue is about five feet from Jr after he picks up the ball and is heading to the basket. Jr is backing away from Blue towards the corner. Had Blue passed it Jr would settled for a jumper or backed it out as there were two defenders. Blue made the right play and had the better shot
http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/recap?gameId=330640164
You also conveniently leave out that Blue stoled the ball.
Exactly right. If you can take it all the way, take it all the way. Passing in that situation increases the risk of a TO.
Considering VB started out 1 for 6 is 8-16 looked pretty good. He made shots when needed and he gets my vote. VB really is a target for folks on here. If Junior had similar game the place would be all over it in positive way.
Quote from: Goose on March 06, 2013, 07:03:39 AM
Considering VB started out 1 for 6 is 8-16 looked pretty good. He made shots when needed and he gets my vote. VB really is a target for folks on here. If Junior had similar game the place would be all over it in positive way.
Case in point: Jamil shot 4-10, scored half as many points as Blue and posters are gushing about it.
NO STUD WHEN (We should have) LOST
Quote from: TSN_92 on March 06, 2013, 07:54:21 AM
NO STUD WHEN (We should have) LOST
So should there be a stud in games MU should have won?
Blue.
Or if he played for UMass, Vandah.
Blue and Wilson both should get it, but I'm going with Blue because he stepped up when the team needed him late and carried them while shaking off his 3 game slump.
Quote from: TSN_92 on March 06, 2013, 07:54:21 AM
NO STUD WHEN (We should have) LOST
Why should we have lost?
Quote from: chapman on March 05, 2013, 09:32:08 PM
Because it's better than nobody trying to take control of the game. A dead ball turnover from trying to create something versus a desperate bad shot because the offense was stagnant for 35 seconds - is the turnover really worse? I'll give props to the kid who wanted the team on his back...and his numbers suggest he was the best one for the job tonight. Sure he shot a ton, but I wouldn't want to redistribute half his shots to guys who just weren't in the flow and hope they came away with a better result - a better ideal on a night when things are working, which wasn't tonight.
+1 When did SOTG mean that a player was flawless in every aspect of the game? SOTG is the guy who puts the team on his back and makes MU win.
Vander put the team on his back and MU won, they don't win if he doesn't. Quit yer bitchin!
This isn't like last year when SOTG turned into the Jae Crowder Award.
BLUE.
Who beside Blue? 10 points? 2 points? 0 points?
Dude stepped up big STOG
Definitely Blue
Blue FTW. Stepped up down the stretch.
I'm trying to figure out how this is even a question. Vander wasn't flawless but he so obviously was the best player on the floor, and he came through when we needed it. Plus, he hit the FTs to clinch it.
We haven't had many no-brainers, but this is one of them.
MU82
I agree. Seems like Blue gets graded differently than rest of team. He was our best player last night and very big reason we won the game.
Quote from: CTWarrior on March 05, 2013, 08:17:02 PM
Blue. Taylor had a good minute but was killed on defense and the defensive boards the whole game. D Wilson had a few nice plays, Cadougan was solid until he missed 2 of 3 big FTs and J Wilson was pretty good.
The whole team was killed on defense.
Blue and Taylor
13lue. Jwil had a monster 2nd half and Taylor Jr. had a nice stretch in the 1st but Vander delivered throughout the game. In addition to a nice stat-stuffing line, he had some key plays including: monster put-back, impressive individual D on key 10-second call, cold-blooded 3 to tie it and clutch FTs to seal it.
Vander