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Title: Nothing worked out for MU today
Post by: muguru on February 23, 2013, 07:20:07 PM
This is why it was so big that Georgetown beat Cuse today. No way MU is winning the title now. Hell, they may not even get a top 4 seed. Well done MU, way to f'n crap your pants....again. Never been so pissed off about an MU game in my life, and that's saying something because I've been pissed about a lot of them.
Title: Re: Nothing worked out for MU today
Post by: kaneman on February 23, 2013, 07:23:41 PM
Wow - you are one sick cookie.  Can I have your tickets for Monday night.
Title: Re: Nothing worked out for MU today
Post by: muhoops1 on February 23, 2013, 07:25:06 PM
This game stunk because MU played with a low BB IQ level tonight.  Winnable game and then play right into Nova's hands.  Slow, tentative and stupid.  Bad combo.
Title: Re: Nothing worked out for MU today
Post by: muguru on February 23, 2013, 07:28:24 PM
Quote from: kaneman on February 23, 2013, 07:23:41 PM
Wow - you are one sick cookie.  Can I have your tickets for Monday night.

Great first post...
Title: Re: Nothing worked out for MU today
Post by: mu_hilltopper on February 23, 2013, 07:30:43 PM
We lost a game on the road to a team that's already beaten Louisville, Syracuse, and UConn.

We were underdogs, supposed to lose, and we did.
Title: Re: Nothing worked out for MU today
Post by: 4everwarriors on February 23, 2013, 07:33:05 PM
So, we're supposed to win on Monday, aina?
Title: Re: Nothing worked out for MU today
Post by: muguru on February 23, 2013, 07:33:43 PM
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on February 23, 2013, 07:30:43 PM
We lost a game on the road to a team that's already beaten Louisville, Syracuse, and UConn.

We were underdogs, supposed to lose, and we did.

Could care less if they were "supposed" to lose, or what Vegas or the experts say. Great teams, and programs that want to become elite, win games like this then go on to win titles. Period. Every single time MU has had a chance to become "elite" or at least take another step in that direction, they crap their pants. Every single time. It's tiring.
Title: Re: Nothing worked out for MU today
Post by: warriorstrack on February 23, 2013, 07:34:59 PM
Disappointing on many levels, however not the be all end all for the season, time to step up against Cuse, I'll be there giving MU all I got
Title: Re: Nothing worked out for MU today
Post by: mu_hilltopper on February 23, 2013, 07:37:41 PM
Quote from: muguru on February 23, 2013, 07:33:43 PM
Could care less if they were "supposed" to lose, or what Vegas or the experts say. Great teams, and programs that want to become elite, win games like this then go on to win titles. Period. Every single time MU has had a chance to become "elite" or at least take another step in that direction, they crap their pants. Every single time. It's tiring.

Perhaps because we're not elite.

Truth is, we're just not at the same level as Louisville nor Syracuse.    Not that we're guaranteed a loss on Monday, but we play 10 games vs. SU on a neutral court, they win 8 of them.
Title: Re: Nothing worked out for MU today
Post by: warriorstrack on February 23, 2013, 07:39:46 PM
The fan in me hopes to have the 2 out of 10 actually happen
Title: Re: Nothing worked out for MU today
Post by: NickelDimer on February 23, 2013, 07:50:43 PM
Quote from: muguru on February 23, 2013, 07:20:07 PM
This is why it was so big that Georgetown beat Cuse today. No way MU is winning the title now. Hell, they may not even get a top 4 seed. Well done MU, way to f'n crap your pants....again. Never been so pissed off about an MU game in my life, and that's saying something because I've been pissed about a lot of them.

What are you, 4?! THIS is the game that pisses you off more than ALL others? Really?!
Title: Re: Nothing worked out for MU today
Post by: keefe on February 23, 2013, 07:53:38 PM
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on February 23, 2013, 07:37:41 PM
we play 10 games vs. SU on a neutral court, they win 8 of them.

Oh yea of little faith. The last time we played the Orange on a neutral court our next stop was the Sweet Sixteen.
Title: Re: Nothing worked out for MU today
Post by: muguru on February 23, 2013, 07:54:45 PM
Quote from: NickelDimer on February 23, 2013, 07:50:43 PM
What are you, 4?! THIS is the game that pisses you off more than ALL others? Really?!

Are you 4?? Do you not understand what this game cost MU?? Can you comprehend that?? No more BE title for them, at least not outright. Now they are in jeopardy of not even getting a top 4 seed for the BE tourney.
Title: Re: Nothing worked out for MU today
Post by: warriorstrack on February 23, 2013, 07:56:11 PM
Quote from: NickelDimer on February 23, 2013, 07:50:43 PM
What are you, 4?! THIS is the game that pisses you off more than ALL others? Really?!
Losing to Western Michigan in NIT pissed me off more
Title: Re: Nothing worked out for MU today
Post by: madtownwarrior on February 23, 2013, 07:57:29 PM
in reality - MU is a 6th to 9th place Big East team
Title: Re: Nothing worked out for MU today
Post by: nyg on February 23, 2013, 07:59:35 PM
Quote from: madtownwarrior on February 23, 2013, 07:57:29 PM
in reality - MU is a 6th to 9th place Big East team

And it may turn out to be that way in the end.  Very tough league.
Title: Re: Nothing worked out for MU today
Post by: keefe on February 23, 2013, 08:05:55 PM
Quote from: muguru on February 23, 2013, 07:54:45 PM
Do you not understand what this game cost MU?? Can you comprehend that??

Do you know how many little girls in India, Nepal, Pakistan, China, Cambodia, Laos, Vietnam, Thailand, Indonesia, the Philippines, etc... were sold into sexual slavery today? Do you know how many little boys were chained below decks today on some tramp steamer in Karachi and Mumbai and headed for Jeddah where they will be prostituted to Arab men?

It was a basketball game, man. It is supposed to help you take your mind off of war, mortgages, troubled teens, marital woes, a sh1tty job, financial woes, etc... relax.

By the way, Marquette is having a great year.
Title: Re: Nothing worked out for MU today
Post by: Tugg Speedman on February 23, 2013, 08:06:05 PM
Quote from: muguru on February 23, 2013, 07:20:07 PM
Well done MU, way to f'n crap your pants....again. Never been so pissed off about an MU game in my life, and that's saying something because I've been pissed about a lot of them.

The proper overused phrase that really says you do not know what you're talking about is "crapping the bed" ... Not pants.  

And if you're this pissed about MU losing by 4 in a game they were underdogs I have to assume you must had been in a third world country during the UWGB game.
Title: Re: Nothing worked out for MU today
Post by: KenoshaWarrior on February 23, 2013, 08:06:41 PM
Quote from: muguru on February 23, 2013, 07:20:07 PM
This is why it was so big that Georgetown beat Cuse today. No way MU is winning the title now. Hell, they may not even get a top 4 seed. Well done MU, way to f'n crap your pants....again. Never been so pissed off about an MU game in my life, and that's saying something because I've been pissed about a lot of them.
I told you guys this board was way more fun an active after a loss on national tv  than it is when we win.


This fan base stews on the losses much more than it enjoys the wins.  And this is coming from someone who used to stew alot.

Team lost to a decent nova team in a HS gym, when Nova needed this win terribly!!   I guess we must be worse than Columbia???
Title: Re: Nothing worked out for MU today
Post by: KenoshaWarrior on February 23, 2013, 08:07:17 PM
Quote from: muguru on February 23, 2013, 07:33:43 PM
Could care less if they were "supposed" to lose, or what Vegas or the experts say. Great teams, and programs that want to become elite, win games like this then go on to win titles. Period. Every single time MU has had a chance to become "elite" or at least take another step in that direction, they crap their pants. Every single time. It's tiring.

I will agree with this though.   
Title: Re: Nothing worked out for MU today
Post by: KenoshaWarrior on February 23, 2013, 08:09:27 PM
Quote from: muguru on February 23, 2013, 07:54:45 PM
Are you 4?? Do you not understand what this game cost MU?? Can you comprehend that?? No more BE title for them, at least not outright. Now they are in jeopardy of not even getting a top 4 seed for the BE tourney.

Not getting a top 4 seed?  We hold the tie breaker against Pitt, we get to play ND on senior day, and we get to play rutgers still.  Your telling me marquette will lose 3 of 4?
Title: Re: Nothing worked out for MU today
Post by: NickelDimer on February 23, 2013, 08:10:50 PM
Quote from: muguru on February 23, 2013, 07:54:45 PM
Are you 4?? Do you not understand what this game cost MU?? Can you comprehend that?? No more BE title for them, at least not outright. Now they are in jeopardy of not even getting a top 4 seed for the BE tourney.

WHAT!?! I DIDN'T KNOW THAT!!!!/sarcasm
Title: Re: Nothing worked out for MU today
Post by: Tugg Speedman on February 23, 2013, 08:12:23 PM
Quote from: madtownwarrior on February 23, 2013, 07:57:29 PM
in reality - MU is a 6th to 9th place Big East team

This post is perfect ...this morning we had a thread titled "10-3" arguing we should have expected that record after 13 games.  3 hours later we are a 6 to 9th place team.  That was fast.

This means around 8:30 Monday night we will get one of two threads ... "Why we Will in the national championship"or "are we good enough for the C7 or should we take Butler's old spot in he Horizon league?"
Title: Re: Nothing worked out for MU today
Post by: KenoshaWarrior on February 23, 2013, 08:16:05 PM
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on February 23, 2013, 08:12:23 PM
This post is perfect ...this morning we had a thread titled "10-3" arguing we should have expected that record after 13 games.  3 hours later ware a 6 to 9th place team.  That was fast.

This means around 8:30 Monday night we will get one of two threads ... "Why we Will in the national championship"or "are we good enough for the C7 or should we take Butler's old spot in he Horizon league?"

yup that is about right, 

On monday Co Co Cadougan is going to rise up like the Phoenix and drop 8 dimes and 15 points against Cuse including a huge dime to Otule which leads to a 3 point play in the final 30 seconds and we win by 6.    Of course the board will than start praising Cadougan for Wooden Award. 
Title: Re: Nothing worked out for MU today
Post by: NavinRJohnson on February 23, 2013, 08:17:36 PM
I give villanova's defense a ton of credit for the win, but our PG's remarkable ability to turn the ball over, and just play lousy in general is extremely disappointing. That pass to Wilson when he was all alone under the basket without a defender within 10 feet was a huge swing in that game. Crap like that simply cannot happen. Unfortunately, that was simply the most glaring of several mistakes.
Title: Re: Nothing worked out for MU today
Post by: KenoshaWarrior on February 23, 2013, 08:19:26 PM
Quote from: NavinRJohnson on February 23, 2013, 08:17:36 PM
I give villanova's defense a ton of credit for the win, but our PG's remarkable ability to turn the ball over, and just play lousy in general is extremely disappointing. That pass to Wilson when he was all alone under the basket without a defender within 10 feet was a huge swing in that game. Crap like that simply cannot happen. Unfortunately, that was simply the most glaring of several mistakes.

I believe wilson slipped on a wet spot
Title: Re: Nothing worked out for MU today
Post by: NavinRJohnson on February 23, 2013, 08:24:36 PM
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on February 23, 2013, 08:19:26 PM
I believe wilson slipped on a wet spot

I did not know that. Was watching in a bar with no sound. That being said, I'll move onto Juipr's other turnover trying to split a double team that was hugeat the time.
Title: Re: Nothing worked out for MU today
Post by: Tugg Speedman on February 23, 2013, 08:30:56 PM
Quote from: NavinRJohnson on February 23, 2013, 08:24:36 PM
I did not know that. Was watching in a bar with no sound. That being said, I'll move onto Juipr's other turnover trying to split a double team that was hugeat the time.

Start a thread called "why it's all junior's fault" and start by blaming him for the Meteor that hit Russia (he's Canadian ... They cannot be trusted)
Title: Re: Nothing worked out for MU today
Post by: NavinRJohnson on February 23, 2013, 08:35:32 PM
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on February 23, 2013, 08:30:56 PM
Start a thread called "why it's all junior's fault" and start by blaming him for the Meteor that hit Russia (he's Canadian ... They cannot be trusted)

Right, cause that's what I'm doing. Well done.
Title: Re: Nothing worked out for MU today
Post by: tower912 on February 23, 2013, 08:38:19 PM
Villanova was the aggressor on their floor.   They played harder and smarter in their little bandbox.   The 1.5 pt favorite won by 4.    Sure, the game was winnable, but MU didn't make shots.   Life on the road in a tough conference.   Gotta let this stuff go. 
Title: Re: Nothing worked out for MU today
Post by: muguru on February 23, 2013, 08:53:11 PM
Quote from: tower912 on February 23, 2013, 08:38:19 PM
Villanova was the aggressor on their floor.   They played harder and smarter in their little bandbox.   The 1.5 pt favorite won by 4.    Sure, the game was winnable, but MU didn't make shots.   Life on the road in a tough conference.   Gotta let this stuff go. 

MU didn't make shots?? They shot 45%. They out shot Nova, they killed them on the glass too. They just turned it over 5 more times than their average, get those 5 possessions back, score on 3 of them, Davante hits his two FT's, and there's MU's win.
Title: Re: Nothing worked out for MU today
Post by: NavinRJohnson on February 23, 2013, 08:55:47 PM
Quote from: muguru on February 23, 2013, 08:53:11 PM
MU didn't make shots?? They shot 45%. They out shot Nova, they killed them on the glass too. They just turned it over 5 more times than their average, get those 5 possessions back, score on 3 of them, Davante hits his two FT's, and there's MU's win.

Correct. Turnovers were the difference, plain and simple.
Title: Re: Nothing worked out for MU today
Post by: MU86NC on February 23, 2013, 09:04:38 PM
Quote from: keefe on February 23, 2013, 08:05:55 PM
Do you know how many little girls in India, Nepal, Pakistan, China, Cambodia, Laos, Vietnam, Thailand, Indonesia, the Philippines, etc... were sold into sexual slavery today? Do you know how many little boys were chained below decks today on some tramp steamer in Karachi and Mumbai and headed for Jeddah where they will be prostituted to Arab men?

It was a basketball game, man. It is supposed to help you take your mind off of war, mortgages, troubled teens, marital woes, a sh1tty job, financial woes, etc... relax.

By the way, Marquette is having a great year.
Maybe you saved someones life tonight....
Title: Re: Nothing worked out for MU today
Post by: tower912 on February 23, 2013, 09:12:13 PM
I should have said...."MU didn't make the shots when it needed to to win tonight".    Turnovers were the bigger issue.   Some were flukes, (Jamil slipping on a wide open alley oop), some were boneheaded (dribbling through too many double teams, faking a shot and hitting Otule in the head with a pass), some were because Villanova played their scouting report extremely well.   
Title: Re: Nothing worked out for MU today
Post by: ATWizJr on February 23, 2013, 09:22:51 PM
The issue was turnovers.  Also, aren't we supposed to thrive against man to man?  I thought facing a zone was our death wish!  Where were our slashing penetrators who could finish or dish it to open 3 point shooters?
Title: Re: Nothing worked out for MU today
Post by: CTWarrior on February 23, 2013, 09:44:14 PM
One thing that bothered me tonight that led to some turnovers was that we passed up a lot of good shots trying to get better ones.  When you're playing a poor or disinterested defense that is sound strategy.  Tonight it was not.

The other thing is that when we miss 3 pointers from the wing to the corner our defensive rotation is not there and we give up runouts for easy hoops.  In a game like tonight when points are tough to come by that is a killer.

Painful loss today.  I was dreaming of a surprise BE regular season championship (probably unrealistic, I know), but that's going to be near impossible now.
Title: Re: Nothing worked out for MU today
Post by: mileskishnish72 on February 24, 2013, 08:06:18 AM
As bad as it was (and it was bad), this wasn't even the Nova game that pissed me off the most - that one is still the BET game that was tight all the way until we left a guy open right under the basket with virtually no time left.
Title: Re: Nothing worked out for MU today
Post by: RushmoreAcademy on February 24, 2013, 08:45:08 AM
Quote from: muguru on February 23, 2013, 07:20:07 PM
This is why it was so big that Georgetown beat Cuse today. No way MU is winning the title now. Hell, they may not even get a top 4 seed. Well done MU, way to f'n crap your pants....again. Never been so pissed off about an MU game in my life, and that's saying something because I've been pissed about a lot of them.

I will forget this game soon enough.   I still have and will continue to have nightmares about the Stanford game.
Title: Re: Nothing worked out for MU today
Post by: 4everwarriors on February 24, 2013, 09:36:42 AM
Yeah, the previous coach continues to give some of us nightmares.
Title: Re: Nothing worked out for MU today
Post by: only a warrior on February 24, 2013, 01:59:19 PM
Dukiet and Deane give me a lot more nightmares than the tan one ever did.  It's over, let him go.
Title: Re: Nothing worked out for MU today
Post by: Stretchdeltsig on February 24, 2013, 02:44:53 PM
We need better quality point guards to win.   Junior is playing too slow and too tentative.  Derek has no offensive game.  Buzz needs to adjust the line up and speed up the tempo to win.  The question is can he still do it this year or are we stuck until next year.
Title: Re: Nothing worked out for MU today
Post by: ATL MU Warrior on February 24, 2013, 04:07:43 PM
Quote from: Stretchdeltsig on February 24, 2013, 02:44:53 PM
We need better quality point guards to win.   Junior is playing too slow and too tentative.  Derek has no offensive game.  Buzz needs to adjust the line up and speed up the tempo to win.  The question is can he still do it this year or are we stuck until next year.
Have you been watching this team at all this year?  Up-tempo is not this team's strength...would have thought that would be apparent almost 30 games into the season.
Title: Re: Nothing worked out for MU today
Post by: TinyTimsLittleBrother on February 24, 2013, 04:17:32 PM
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on February 24, 2013, 04:07:43 PM
Have you been watching this team at all this year?  Up-tempo is not this team's strength...would have thought that would be apparent almost 30 games into the season.


The only teams with less possessions than MU are South Florida, Syracuse, Cincinnati and Georgetown.  

Last year MU was #3 in the conference.  We play better slow this year. 
Title: Re: Nothing worked out for MU today
Post by: MU82 on February 25, 2013, 09:19:12 AM
This post from keefe, responding to the fine gentleman who started this thread, apparently was removed by a moderator:

Do you know how many little girls in India, Nepal, Pakistan, China, Cambodia, Laos, Vietnam, Thailand, Indonesia, the Philippines, etc... were sold into sexual slavery today? Do you know how many little boys were chained below decks today on some tramp steamer in Karachi and Mumbai and headed for Jeddah where they will be prostituted to Arab men?

It was a basketball game, man. It is supposed to help you take your mind off of war, mortgages, troubled teens, marital woes, a sh1tty job, financial woes, etc... relax.

By the way, Marquette is having a great year.


It was a perfect response to a person who clearly needs to learn how to not place so much of his self-worth on the outcome of sporting events involving  18-to-22-year-old college students.

I'd love to hear why keefe's post was removed.
Title: Re: Nothing worked out for MU today
Post by: ATWizJr on February 25, 2013, 09:32:46 AM
Politics?
Title: Re: Nothing worked out for MU today
Post by: MU82 on February 25, 2013, 11:45:48 AM
Quote from: ATWizJr on February 25, 2013, 09:32:46 AM
Politics?
I'm not a big fan of mixing politics with sports, either, but to me this was just stating that there are far more horrific situations one could get riled up about than a 4-point road loss to a good team.

So yes, while keefe could have stated it differently, he made a good point and it certainly was neither political nor controversial enough to be taken down.

IMHO.
Title: Re: Nothing worked out for MU today
Post by: Windyplayer on February 25, 2013, 11:47:36 AM
Quote from: RushmoreAcademy on February 24, 2013, 08:45:08 AM
I will forget this game soon enough.   I still have and will continue to have nightmares about the Stanford game.
+1 million.
Title: Re: Nothing worked out for MU today
Post by: muarmy81 on February 25, 2013, 08:39:21 PM
Quote from: muguru on February 23, 2013, 07:20:07 PM
This is why it was so big that Georgetown beat Cuse today. No way MU is winning the title now. Hell, they may not even get a top 4 seed. Well done MU, way to f'n crap your pants....again. Never been so pissed off about an MU game in my life, and that's saying something because I've been pissed about a lot of them.

Any pants crapping this evening?
Title: Re: Nothing worked out for MU today
Post by: tower912 on February 25, 2013, 08:58:09 PM
Just by the guru trying to think of people to criticize. 
Title: Re: Nothing worked out for MU today
Post by: ShannonSmith on February 25, 2013, 09:13:25 PM
Guru's mommie didn't let him watch the whole game on a school night.
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