OK, maybe it's just me, but here is the deal.
12:33 left and MU cuts the lead to three, 37-34. Buzz takes out Vander, Junior and J. Wilson and subs them with Anderson, Derrick Wilson and Mayo. This after J. Wilson hit a big three to get them close. MU turns the ball over, then a minute later during a possession, Buzz gets the technical.
Why did Buzz take out the players after a momentum gaining run and put in the second team??? I just didn't get it and still don't. Wouldn't you keep the players that made the run together on the court. Maybe if those players were in the game, the play resulting in the technical might never occurred. I have no clue about this and it drives me crazy.
To Buzz's defense, he was taking them out to rest them until the under 12 timeout. It is pretty common for him to do...and other coaches do it as well. It was the first time Junior and Vander had been out the second half.
Buzz will take the fall for that but MU's got too many TOs and missed opportunities
Mark 12:33
To love him with all your heart, with all your understanding and with all your strength, and to love your neighbor as yourself is more important than all burnt offerings and sacrifices.
Quote from: Sir Lawrence on February 11, 2013, 08:06:42 PM
Mark 12:33
To love him with all your heart, with all your understanding and with all your strength, and to love your neighbor as yourself is more important than all burnt offerings and sacrifices.
Amen brother.
More Mayo and Taylor. I don't get the whole sale substitutions.
Quote from: Sir Lawrence on February 11, 2013, 08:06:42 PM
Mark 12:33
To love him with all your heart, with all your understanding and with all your strength, and to love your neighbor as yourself is more important than all burnt offerings and sacrifices.
Thats what Buzz told Hess tonight.
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on February 11, 2013, 08:05:58 PM
Buzz will take the fall for that but MU's got too many TOs and missed opportunities
10 assists and 19 TOs. Game over.
He had been making wholesale substitutions all night. No different. Getting a technical for saying "Its not his call" 4 times....just one in a slew of interesting interpretations by the officials tonight.
Quote from: tower912 on February 11, 2013, 08:16:31 PM
He had been making wholesale substitutions all night. No different. Getting a technical for saying "Its not his call" 4 times....just one in a slew of interesting interpretations by the officials tonight.
Buzz really has no right to tell the refs whose call it was. Completely deserved.
A "right" implies a black and white decision of which there were very few called that way in the game, if the game was called based on "rights" you and Jay would have fouled out most of the MU team
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on February 11, 2013, 08:18:12 PM
Buzz really has no right to tell the refs whose call it was. Completely deserved.
Why is that?
Buzz has every right to encourage an official to get help or to encourage an official who might have had a better look to speak up.
Quote from: tower912 on February 11, 2013, 08:21:43 PM
Buzz has every right to encourage an official to get help or to encourage an official who might have had a better look to speak up.
Of course he does.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on February 11, 2013, 08:18:12 PM
Buzz really has no right to tell the refs whose call it was. Completely deserved.
Agreed. Buzz had been asking for it all night.
Quote from: tower912 on February 11, 2013, 08:21:43 PM
Buzz has every right to encourage an official to get help or to encourage an official who might have had a better look to speak up.
Sure, but he had been giving them lip and waking all over the court all game long. Multiple comments were made about his behavior even before he got the T. The refs had to take control, even if they were blowing calls, and that's what they did.
Asking for it, I see JT III cussing like a sailor on the sidelines most games I watch Georgetown, he seemed to have been able to keep his mouth shut for the most part tonight, Buzz may have "deserved" the tech, but I didn't see him using profanity to get his point across
Quote from: MarsupialMadness on February 11, 2013, 08:26:09 PM
Sure, but he had been giving them lip and waking all over the court all game long. Multiple comments were made about his behavior even before he got the T. The refs had to take control, even if they were blowing calls, and that's what they did.
It's interesting when people look at a technical as "it was coming" and see no problem with the reason the technical being issued isn't for a coach's worst offense.
However, when their player is lowering the shoulder all night long to no whistle and gets called for the foul late in the game after a defender flops it can be a mutiny even though "it was coming."
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on February 11, 2013, 08:18:12 PM
Buzz really has no right to tell the refs whose call it was. Completely deserved.
What now?
That was a very weak T. Probably a residual of calling the halfcourt TO.
The replay showed Davante got fouled and the G-town player knocked the ball out. The ref on sideline by Buzz called it G-town's ball. Buzz said 4 times that it wasn't his call to make and got T'd. He wasn't hyper, he wasn't jumping up and down, he wasn't showing up the official. Bottom line is that it was a momentum changer just when MU was showing some life.
Quote from: MUfan12 on February 11, 2013, 08:39:09 PM
What now?
That was a very weak T. Probably a residual of calling the halfcourt TO.
Buzz had a right to tell them the wrong guy was overturning the call. That is part of his job.
And the half court TO is also on the refs. He has to be able to call a TO, if the refs aren't paying attn make them pay attn.
We lost because we turned the ball over too much.
The refs also sucked.
Quote from: tower912 on February 11, 2013, 08:21:43 PM
Buzz has every right to encourage an official to get help or to encourage an official who might have had a better look to speak up.
Correct. But that's different than repeatedly saying "that's not your call." After the way he was acting most of the night, I'm sure it was the final straw. It was a terrible time to take that technical.
I think the refs were a little sick of hearing from Buzz at that point. Perhaps he had been warned prior to that?
Refs suck all the time. They especially sucked tonight. I love Buzz's enthusiasm and while I won't say he lost us this game, I'd like to see him keep his cool a little more.
Jay Bilas said a bunch of stupid things today but one thing he had right on the money was that all the excessive jabbering between officials and coaches needs to stop.
Not really. How many times, according to the Sultan, is too many?
Quote from: Lennys Tap on February 11, 2013, 08:23:41 PM
Of course he does.
I agree. Especially when a call was reversed earlier in the game when two officials talked about it.
Quote from: tower912 on February 11, 2013, 08:51:40 PM
Not really. How many times, according to the Sultan, is too many?
Once. Say your peace, and shut the f*ck up because they aren't going to change their mind.
And "not really" what?
Long shot here. Earlier in the year when Buzz got his first T, I think someone said (maybe Buzz himself) that he has gotten 5 T's since being at MU. It was said that 4 of them were called by the same ref if I recall correctly. Unless I'm just completely making that up, does anyone know which ref it was?
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on February 11, 2013, 08:53:32 PM
Once. Say your peace, and shut the f*ck up because they aren't going to change their mind.
They showed the exchange. He wasn't profane, wasn't overly demonstrative, and didn't show them up. It was a weak T from a crew that was completely out of their depth.
Quote from: MUfan12 on February 11, 2013, 08:54:59 PM
They showed the exchange. He wasn't profane, wasn't overly demonstrative, and didn't show them up. It was a weak T from a crew that was completely out of their depth.
Well, neither you nor I know what was said prior to then. I'm not prepared to make that statement with such certainty. Just say it once and sh*t up because repeating it over...and over...and over serves no purpose whatsoever.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on February 11, 2013, 08:53:32 PM
Once. Say your peace, and shut the f*ck up because they aren't going to change their mind.
And "not really" what?
You changed your post after I had posted. As to saying it once, we are again destined to disagree. He is working the officials like he is supposed to to try and influence the next call. Please name the coaches who say something one time and let it go. Plus, you have watched Buzz. Is it possible for him to just say it once in a situation like that? Really? Buzz was completely under control and trying to get a call for his team without showing up the ref. Weak T.
The amount of blind defense of everything Buzz does on this board is completely dumbfounding.
People speaking in absolutes is baffling
Quote from: warriorstrack on February 11, 2013, 09:02:35 PM
People speaking in absolutes is baffling
If this is directed at me, I didn't speak in an absolute.
We had the same amount of blind defense of Crean when he was here. We frequently held our tongues because he was our guy. Now you are mad because MU fans (A) defend their current coach and (B) are critical of our former coach. Weird.
Buzz is a good coach. He is still a work in progress, but IMO it was a weak T.
Quote from: tower912 on February 11, 2013, 08:57:39 PM
He is working the officials like he is supposed to to try and influence the next call. Please name the coaches who say something one time and let it go. Plus, you have watched Buzz. Is it possible for him to just say it once in a situation like that? Really? Buzz was completely under control and trying to get a call for his team without showing up the ref. Weak T.
I don't know if it was a strong or weak T, but like I said in the gamechat, its a waste to get that T on an out of bounds call. I totally get working the refs and trying to influence the game - but if you're going to get a T because of it, you do it defending one of your guys. If you get a T screaming about how the refs are calling ticky tack fouls against Vander guarding on the perimeter or are unfairly targeting DG down low, etc etc, thats one thing. The refs will be hyper conscious of that issue from that point on if they T you up arguing that. But on an OB call? You aren't influencing anything concrete, you're just offensive background noise. Its not like the next loose ball will be more likely to get you possession when it trickles out of bounds.
Quote from: tower912 on February 11, 2013, 08:57:39 PM
You changed your post after I had posted. As to saying it once, we are again destined to disagree. He is working the officials like he is supposed to to try and influence the next call. Please name the coaches who say something one time and let it go. Plus, you have watched Buzz. Is it possible for him to just say it once in a situation like that? Really? Buzz was completely under control and trying to get a call for his team without showing up the ref. Weak T.
This. Buzz is working the officials like every other coach in the game (and it seems to me he's pretty timid compared to some coaches).
Also, what would everyone's reaction be if Buzz's T fired up our players and we went on a huge run right after and won the game? You'd all be praising Buzz. Either way, the T gets too much blame or too much credit.
Basketball is an imperfect game (coaching, officiating, playing), our team is better than most. I am very happy about where we are at this point in the season, there is always a wide range of opinions about the comings and goings of any game. I enjoy them all. GO MU.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on February 11, 2013, 09:03:35 PM
If this is directed at me, I didn't speak in an absolute.
Of course you did. It doesn't get any more absolute than "Buzz has no right". Not surprisingly, your absolute was absolutely wrong.
Quote from: tower912 on February 11, 2013, 09:04:08 PM
We had the same amount of blind defense of Crean when he was here. We frequently held our tongues because he was our guy. Now you are mad because MU fans (A) defend their current coach and (B) are critical of our former coach. Weird.
Buzz is a good coach. He is still a work in progress, but IMO it was a weak T.
I'm not mad and Dr. Blackheart, who was at the game, said that Buzz was on the refs all game and it was a "last straw" T. You can't view it in a vacuum.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on February 11, 2013, 09:12:52 PM
Of course you did. It doesn't get any more absolute than "Buzz has no right". Not surprisingly, your absolute was absolutely wrong.
I said "he really has no right." Quote me accurately dipsh*t.
From an outsider perspective, it appeared to be a pretty weak T, but for all we know the refs had been harping on Buzz to stay inside the coaching box for the first 27:27 of the game. When he came out of the box, they T'd him up. They may have told him that if he said one more thing, they'd T him up. He did, so they did. There may have been any number of things that went into the T being called at that point, but I highly doubt that it was called solely because Buzz was yelling for the other ref to make the call.
I believe it was James Eastling.
Quote from: MARQ_13 on February 11, 2013, 08:54:04 PM
Long shot here. Earlier in the year when Buzz got his first T, I think someone said (maybe Buzz himself) that he has gotten 5 T's since being at MU. It was said that 4 of them were called by the same ref if I recall correctly. Unless I'm just completely making that up, does anyone know which ref it was?
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on February 11, 2013, 09:16:15 PM
From an outsider perspective, it appeared to be a pretty weak T, but for all we know the refs had been harping on Buzz to stay inside the coaching box for the first 27:27 of the game. When he came out of the box, they T'd him up. They may have told him that if he said one more thing, they'd T him up. He did so they did. There may have been any number of things that went into the T being called at that point, but I highly doubt that the was called solely because Buzz was yelling for the other ref to make the call.
I have no problem with the T being called. I do have a problem with anyone saying a coach has no right to question who is in best position to make a call.. Has Sultan been a ref? It would explain the attitude.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on February 11, 2013, 09:23:56 PM
I have no problem with the T being called. I do have a problem with anyone saying a coach has no right to question who is in best position to make a call.. Has Sultan been a ref? It would explain the attitude.
I used to be...not doing it this year. But the point was that any ref can make any call. If the ref in a better position doesn't overturn it or speak with him, the coach really has no recourse. Say it once. Keep quiet...especially if you've been working them all game.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on February 11, 2013, 09:13:38 PM
I'm not mad and Dr. Blackheart, who was at the game, said that Buzz was on the refs all game and it was a "last straw" T. You can't view it in a vacuum.
It was deserved. Timing was bad but 5 minutes either way it could have lit the team. Buzz was on a mission. It was the third official who called it, not the two involved which is how they are trained. Buzz was on the court and in his Rain Man mode.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on February 11, 2013, 09:14:57 PM
I said "he really has no right." Quote me accurately dipsh*t.
Woooo! Tough guy. Say something stupid, get exposed and then start a fight. Keep digging.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on February 11, 2013, 09:33:03 PM
Woooo! Tough guy. Say something stupid, get exposed and then start a fight. Keep digging.
I felt the poster was talking specifically about my immediate post...not something earlier in the thread. Then you go back and hump my leg with something I said earlier and not relevant to what I was talking about.
I just thought that I would kick the puppy off my leg before he made a mess of things.
So next time son, please address specifically what I am talking about and don't bring up irrelevant sh*t. Got it?
I think the saying is, 'fish in your own pond,' and its one of the most basic tenets of officiating. The point is the official had no right to make the call because he was in no position to make the call. He was just guessing. How are you supposed to help another official when you can't even see what happened. He wasn't in the position to get the call right, so why should he act like he saw what happened.
Buzz was right, and that's when officials get most pissed. When you're wrong, or vulgar or simply being a baby because you're frustrated, the refs can take it because they're in control, and you're the one who is out of control. Buzz was calling the official out for disobeying one of the basic rules of officiating -- fish in your own pond. The official knew he was wrong and he was being called out for it. That's what got under his skin. So, I guess, Buzz should just let the guy be blatantly wrong not in the call but in even making the call at all. Come on.
I guess he shouldn't point out either that its idiotic for an official to say a 275 lb man got knocked over by a 22 oz ball. Just let it all go.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on February 11, 2013, 09:36:25 PM
Easy, big fellah. There very well may be some dipshats posting in this thread.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on February 11, 2013, 09:00:57 PM
The amount of blind defense of everything Buzz does on this board is completely dumbfounding.
Buzz definitely taking some grilling on the interwebs tonight on some sights. Not a good move. He's young, he'll learn from it.
Quote from: karavotsos on February 11, 2013, 09:44:30 PM
Buzz was right, and that's when officials get most pissed.
You're right. Even officials who are taking the year off blowing their whistle in pursuit of 10,000 posts on Scoop do that. Everyone makes mistakes - it's only pathetic when someone gets stupid angry in defense of theirs.
Quote from: tower912 on February 11, 2013, 09:04:08 PM
We had the same amount of blind defense of Crean when he was here. We frequently held our tongues because he was our guy. Now you are mad because MU fans (A) defend their current coach and (B) are critical of our former coach. Weird.
Buzz is a good coach. He is still a work in progress, but IMO it was a weak T.
Maybe we should be a bit more honest about both. Instead of being 100% critical of the former guy and harping on 3 losses and not 21 or 22 wins, we understand he was a good coach. Same for Buzz, in that he's a really good coach, but is a human being also and does make some mistakes.
Tonight was one of them. They're going to make mistakes, all of them. I don't know why we ignore it when our guy does it, but we go crazy (beyond normal crazy) when someone else does it. Illogical.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/colleges/coach-williams-technical-swings-momentum-as-no-18-marquette-falls-63-55-to-no-15-georgetown/2013/02/11/25738834-74ca-11e2-9889-60bfcbb02149_story.html
http://washingtonexaminer.com/a-fairly-technical-victory/article/2521274
http://www.rantsports.com/ncaa-basketball/2013/02/11/buzz-williams-costs-his-marquette-golden-eagles/
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on February 11, 2013, 10:33:04 PM
Maybe we should be a bit more honest about both. Instead of being 100% critical of the former guy and harping on 3 losses and not 21 or 22 wins, we understand he was a good coach. Same for Buzz, in that he's a really good coach, but is a human being also and does make some mistakes.
Tonight was one of them. They're going to make mistakes, all of them. I don't know why we ignore it when our guy does it, but we go crazy (beyond normal crazy) when someone else does it. Illogical.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/colleges/coach-williams-technical-swings-momentum-as-no-18-marquette-falls-63-55-to-no-15-georgetown/2013/02/11/25738834-74ca-11e2-9889-60bfcbb02149_story.html
http://washingtonexaminer.com/a-fairly-technical-victory/article/2521274
http://www.rantsports.com/ncaa-basketball/2013/02/11/buzz-williams-costs-his-marquette-golden-eagles/
All I know is we've had a lot more inane IU chatter around here since you've been back, and if that doesn't stop you might have to go away again.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on February 11, 2013, 09:55:41 PM
Buzz definitely taking some grilling on the interwebs tonight on some sights. Not a good move. He's young, he'll learn from it.
Let's do a Poll. Question: After a poor performance/loss, which Scoop poster will scour the inter webs in search of criticism for our coach and bring it to our attention?
A Chicos
B Anybody else
Certain to be the first unanimously correct poll in Scoop history.
Granted I didn't read the whole thread, but subbing or not subbing wouldn't have made a difference on the technical. The T was after a Georgetown player hacked at Gardner as he made a move in the post and no foul was called. You could argue if Gardner wasn't in the game then the play wouldn't have occurred, but I think Buzz was just on high alert and this was bound to happen.
Quote from: muhoosier260 on February 11, 2013, 11:25:33 PM
I think Buzz was just on high alert and this was bound to happen.
Yup. I got that feeling as well. I'd much rather it happen there, than in a tie game, or to have MU get a late lead erased.
12 minutes is plenty of time to erase a 7 point lead. The T didn't help, but it didn't cost them the game. The extra possessions that Georgetown got from TOs and offensive rebounds did.
Didn't read the whole thread either, but I would assume it can be difficult for these guys to get in any sort of rhythm at times when Buzz is shifting guys in and out non stop. We needed some sort of rhythm tonight.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on February 11, 2013, 09:36:25 PM
I felt the poster was talking specifically about my immediate post...not something earlier in the thread. Then you go back and hump my leg with something I said earlier and not relevant to what I was talking about.
I just thought that I would kick the puppy off my leg before he made a mess of things.
So next time son, please address specifically what I am talking about and don't bring up irrelevant sh*t. Got it?
Oh my. You are a complete and utter ..
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on February 11, 2013, 09:36:25 PM
I felt the poster was talking specifically about my immediate post...not something earlier in the thread. Then you go back and hump my leg with something I said earlier and not relevant to what I was talking about.
I just thought that I would kick the puppy off my leg before he made a mess of things.
So next time son, please address specifically what I am talking about and don't bring up irrelevant sh*t. Got it?
Take a Midol...
How come they will change some out of bound calls and not others?
Quote from: Lennys Tap on February 11, 2013, 11:06:13 PM
Let's do a Poll. Question: After a poor performance/loss, which Scoop poster will scour the inter webs in search of criticism for our coach and bring it to our attention?
A Chicos
B Anybody else
Certain to be the first unanimously correct poll in Scoop history.
C Hoopaloop
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=36087.0
So according to someone who was at the game, the baseline ref, closest to the play, signaled MU ball. The ref over by the MU bench, overruled the call, giving the ball to G-town. To follow what we then saw on TV, Buzz says 4 times "It's not his call". And gets a momentum changing T.
Buzz was right, it wasn't his call.
Quote from: tower912 on February 12, 2013, 08:49:15 AM
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=36087.0
So according to someone who was at the game, the baseline ref, closest to the play, signaled MU ball. The ref over by the MU bench, overruled the call, giving the ball to G-town. To follow what we then saw on TV, Buzz says 4 times "It's not his call". And gets a momentum changing T.
Buzz was right, it wasn't his call.
Just because he's right doesn't mean you constantly repeat it. Should have just cut his losses and he probably knows that. Learning experience...
Buzz was also on the court...not just on this call but also many others. We know it is his ADD, but it catches up with you on a play like this when he has a lightening rod reaction. He and the official were even going at it after the T in the middle of the MU huddle during a time out. Buzz earned it.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on February 12, 2013, 09:15:40 AM
Buzz was also on the court...not just on this call but also many others. We know it is his ADD, but it catches up with you on a play like this when he has a lightening rod reaction. He and the official were even going at it after the T in the middle of the MU huddle during a time out. Buzz earned it.
He had a legitimate gripe about how it was handled, even though it was a really really tough call.
He took it way too far and earned the technical.
The T killed an 11-4 start to the second half for MU. GU then goes on a 12-5 run and pushes the lead back to 10. Game over.
Quote from: Warriors10 on February 12, 2013, 09:06:57 AM
Just because he's right doesn't mean you constantly repeat it. Should have just cut his losses and he probably knows that. Learning experience...
The repeating isn't a problem. The sense that Buzz was right in calling out the official for overstepping his bounds is what gets him a technical. No one, not even the cashier at Target, enjoys being told what their job is or isn't.
I've witnessed high school coaches cuss out a referee like a drunken sailor just off a four way orgy with a wet puppy to no discipline. Very often it comes down to a short leash on the black/white's part than it does the long repeated raging of a coach.
Almost all coaches at that level get T'd up from time to time. Frequently, it galvanizes their team. Last night, it killed the momentum. Sucks. On to Pitt.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on February 12, 2013, 09:15:40 AM
Buzz was also on the court...not just on this call but also many others. We know it is his ADD, but it catches up with you on a play like this when he has a lightening rod reaction. He and the official were even going at it after the T in the middle of the MU huddle during a time out. Buzz earned it.
Honest question: What the heck is the official doing in the middle of the MU huddle? I see this now all the time. Officials used to walk AWAY to give coaches a chance to cool down. Now they seem to want to interject themselves into the action. Happens in baseball all the time too. What's up with that?
Quote from: Lennys Tap on February 11, 2013, 11:06:13 PM
Let's do a Poll. Question: After a poor performance/loss, which Scoop poster will scour the inter webs in search of criticism for our coach and bring it to our attention?
A Chicos
B Anybody else
Certain to be the first unanimously correct poll in Scoop history.
I didn't have to scour anything. Google alerts sends me every day whenever Buzz Williams is mentioned (been a problem lately as I keep getting emails about the "buzz" and "williams" combined which often leads to recruiting football articles). Right there in a bow in my email account. Barely have to lift a finger. Last night, most of the stories were dominated by Buzz's technical.
B...."Anybody Else" is often run out of here because they get tired of being ransacked by other posters for daring to say something.
At the end of the day, bad move. I also said, again, he's a very good coach and will learn from it. I suspect he will. Smart guy who continues to get better each year.
Quote from: Warriors10 on February 12, 2013, 09:06:57 AM
Just because he's right doesn't mean you constantly repeat it. Should have just cut his losses and he probably knows that. Learning experience...
Ding ding ding
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on February 12, 2013, 09:15:40 AM
Buzz was also on the court...not just on this call but also many others. We know it is his ADD, but it catches up with you on a play like this when he has a lightening rod reaction. He and the official were even going at it after the T in the middle of the MU huddle during a time out. Buzz earned it.
Ding ding ding
I have no problem with the T. Do not think it changed game to great extent. We stunk the joint up and deserve to lose. More turnovers than baskets made on the road with under five to go...you deserve to lose. I wish he had really blown a gasket and woke up the lazy team.
Quote from: Goose on February 12, 2013, 10:31:47 AM
I have no problem with the T. Do not think it changed game to great extent. We stunk the joint up and deserve to lose. More turnovers than baskets made on the road with under five to go...you deserve to lose. I wish he had really blown a gasket and woke up the lazy team.
I disagree, I don't think that's the way to wake up the team. In the right moment or the right situation when you are backing up one of your players, that might be the case, but in this scenario Buzz just looked foolish. The team had to hold him back and calm him down.
I agree we lost the game due to excessive turnovers and the outcome had little to with the T. But I think Buzz knows he was in the wrong. At least I hope he does.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on February 11, 2013, 11:06:13 PM
scour the inter webs in search of criticism
More scouring the internet today from Google alerts....today there are few that provide a different approach (last night, there weren't). Happily sharing those here also.
http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/12/did-buzz-williams-technical-cost-marquette/
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaab-the-dagger/breakfast-buffet-buzz-williams-defends-game-changing-technical-143150477--ncaab.html
http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/recap?gameId=330420046
Quote from: warriorstrack on February 11, 2013, 08:27:36 PM
Asking for it, I see JT III cussing like a sailor on the sidelines most games I watch Georgetown, he seemed to have been able to keep his mouth shut for the most part tonight, Buzz may have "deserved" the tech, but I didn't see him using profanity to get his point across
Um, are you talking about JT3 or his father? The current Georgetown coach is relatively mild mannered on the sidelines. Having seen pretty every GU game since he's been the coach, I've never seen him "cussing like a sailor on the sidelines." He got upset at a call at the end of the Louisville game a week ago and slapped the scorer's table and that's most animated I think I've ever seen him. I'm sure he averages less than 1 technical foul a season.
Quote from: kchoya on February 12, 2013, 02:41:25 PM
Um, are you talking about JT3 or his father? The current Georgetown coach is relatively mild mannered on the sidelines. Having seen pretty every GU game since he's been the coach, I've never seen him "cussing like a sailor on the sidelines." He got upset at a call at the end of the Louisville game a week ago and slapped the scorer's table and that's most animated I think I've ever seen him. I'm sure he averages less than 1 technical foul a season.
I will defer since you are in a position to see him on a regular basis, but I have observed him first hand using profanity directed toward calls that did not go his way, not at anyone (ref, ...). Not a big deal as I have noticed it, most coaches use the blue language, some are pretty good at it, Kevin O'Neal was one of the best or worst depending how you want to look at it
The technical did stop MU's momentum. However, I do not think Buzz was trying to get a technical and if he did, I do not blame him because the reffing sucked. If you ever watch a UW game, Bo is always complaining about some call. You do not see him get called for technicals. I think it is more on the ref than Buzz. The game was called in another dimension last night. I do not think I have ever seen a three point shooter being rushed by a defender called for an offensive foul. The replay did show that Blue pushed away the defender's hand after the shot, but I cannot imagine that was the first time that ever happened and I have never seen a call like that. Both Blue and J. Wilson got called for fouls on defensive rebounds. I did not see what Blue did, but it appeared to me that Wilson went straight up and reached over to get the rebound. Maybe I missed something, but I watched Cincy, Louisville and Georgetown repeatedly go up over us with no calls made. Late in the game Lubick pushed D. Wilson to get a rebound and they called the foul on Derrick. Last night must of been a record for moving screens called on MU, since Buzz was coach or since Claussen graduated. Having said that, MU just threw the ball away several times. If they continue to play like they did last night they will not win another game.
Ryan does complain a lot, he also has his share of technical fouls as well. He has 3 this year already.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on February 12, 2013, 11:08:57 PM
Ryan does complain a lot, he also has his share of technical fouls as well. He has 3 this year already.
That's because he uses the F word. Ask the mother of one of his freshman.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on February 11, 2013, 09:14:57 PM
I said "he really has no right." Quote me accurately dipsh*t.
That's the same thing. An absolute, and absolutely incorrect, statement.