I brought this up in another thread but thought I would start a new one. Here are Jamil's stats.
Last year...7.1/4.1/1.1 in 24mpg
This year...8.0/4.5/1.6 in 23mpg
If you look at the game logs, he was about as inconsistent as he has been this year. So while he definitely hasn't progressed, I don't think it is fair to say he's regressed.
So I've come to the conclusion that this simply is who he is.
There was a BIG opportunity for Jamil to step into a larger role for our team. He was the leading candidate for that role - but didn't take it.
He has not "regressed" when you look at the stats...but he has been disappointing at times through out the season.
I still like some of the things he does - and when he is assertive on offense, he really helps us.
Well, sometimes people don't have the capability (physically and/or mentally) of simply "stepping up." As I have said in other threads, I think this is simply what he is as a basketball player and we need to adjust our expectations accordingly.
The most telling stat you present is mpg. The dude should be playin' Blue minutes by now.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Jamil-Wilson-66544
You can go back to 2009, when Wilson was a senior and at one time during his junior year was a top thirty ranked recruit. For some reasons, the scouting analysts dropped him big time in it's final rankings to 94th. Expectations were high for him, yet he like you said, looks like he simply is what he is at this point.
Quote from: nyg on February 05, 2013, 08:22:17 AM
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Jamil-Wilson-66544
You can go back to 2009, when Wilson was a senior and at one time during his junior year was a top thirty ranked recruit. For some reasons, the scouting analysts dropped him big time in it's final rankings to 94th. Expectations were high for him, yet he like you said, looks like he simply is what he is at this point.
If you go further back, I believe one service had him as a top 10 recruit his sophomore year. That is when he was getting the attention of Duke, Michigan State, etc.
You can see the potential at times, size, athleticism ability to put the ball on the floor, can hit the three point shot. So physically he has all the tools.
Sultan is correct, why we can see those tools and wonder why he is not on a short list to replace Crowder as BE POY, he is not that kind of player. He is what he is.
Wes was a bit like this until his senior year. Hopefully Buzz can work similar magic with Jamil.
I am really hoping he has a similar situation to Steve Novak. I recall many here imploring Novak to shoot more and be more assertive on the boards and on offense.
It really took Steve's senior year to do so. Obviously they are quite different players but perhaps somewhat similar in their mentality.
Steve had a much better supporting cast his senior campaign (versus his Junior season). I think Wilson will as well. Let's hope Jamil wakes up big his final year like Novak did.
With Jae Crowder gone there were a lot more minutes, points, rebounds, etc. available by default. That Jamil's potential increased opportunities/numbers are being poached by Juan, Davante, Trent, etc. speaks volumes.
I think the senior season thing can be made and certainly Jae went from not starting due to stupid fouls to BE POY but Jamil is in his 4th year, you'd think he'd want to blow it out and make some money. I thought he could have put together a leave early season.
Quote from: The Lens on February 05, 2013, 09:03:11 AM
I think the senior season thing can be made and certainly Jae went from not starting due to stupid fouls to BE POY but Jamil is in his 4th year, you'd think he'd want to blow it out and make some money. I thought he could have put together a leave early season.
Look, I'm sure he *wants* to blow it out and make the NBA. I am also reasonably sure that he works pretty hard at it too.
Maybe he just can't do it.
If you aren't moving forward, you're moving backwards.
Agree with the comments that he is who is. Doesn't mean he can't progress, but he hasn't this far. Ultimately, the best players are going to play. If he's not in that mix, so be it.
I said when season started he and VB were the keys to play high level IMO. VB is playing almost the whole game and putting up numbers and solid performances. Maybe Buzz needs to let Jamil out there for 30-35 a night and see if he can do it.
I've had the same discussion with Ners on this point with regards to Todd Mayo. Just playing someone more doesn't mean they are going to get better.
Jamil has to be considered the biggest disappointment of the season thus far. Had he taken a jump in his game like Blue, this team would look much different right now.
I think it's more than fair to say he's regressed. He's been given more latitude and a lrger role and hasn't improved in any area. In fact I think his role and value are less clear this year than last.
At this point, he hadn't start playing big minutes yet for an extended period. Once Gardner got hurt, JWilson's minutes and play escalated.
Sultan
I think big difference between Jamil and Todd in regards to minutes. Jamil is proven player, frustrating at times, but a proven player with no doubt high D1 talent. Some guys just need to get in the flow of the game. This season is a bonus in regards to victories at this point and that has been fun. At this point trying to maximize this season and getting guys ready for next year seems to make sense. Knowing if Jamil is 30-35 minute guy going into next season would make planning easier I would think. If he cannot play at the expected level going into next year you go to Plan B.
As for Todd, I am never sure if he is around for the next game let alone next season. My expectations from him are rapidly falling and he would not be in long range plans if I were the coach.
Quote from: Goose on February 05, 2013, 10:05:15 AM
I said when season started he and VB were the keys to play high level IMO. VB is playing almost the whole game and putting up numbers and solid performances. Maybe Buzz needs to let Jamil out there for 30-35 a night and see if he can do it.
I'm not sure what is going on, but Buzz is definitely sending a message to JW with his PT. Also, I thought with extended minutes on Sunday JW did not look very good and in general seemed lost out there. We are in a bit of a quandary as our 3/4 play has been inconsistent this year. I like the way TL is trending, but he is only 1 guy.
Quote from: tower912 on February 05, 2013, 10:29:46 AM
At this point, he hadn't start playing big minutes yet for an extended period. Once Gardner got hurt, JWilson's minutes and play escalated.
Ehh...kind of. His minutes went up, but had up and down games just like he has had so far this season. In the end he averaged 7.1 ppg.
Quote from: NickelDimer on February 05, 2013, 10:27:21 AM
I think it's more than fair to say he's regressed. He's been given more latitude and a lrger role and hasn't improved in any area. In fact I think his role and value are less clear this year than last.
Only if you change the definition of the word "regressed."
Quote from: Goose on February 05, 2013, 10:30:20 AM
Sultan
I think big difference between Jamil and Todd in regards to minutes. Jamil is proven player, frustrating at times, but a proven player with no doubt high D1 talent. Some guys just need to get in the flow of the game. This season is a bonus in regards to victories at this point and that has been fun. At this point trying to maximize this season and getting guys ready for next year seems to make sense. Knowing if Jamil is 30-35 minute guy going into next season would make planning easier I would think. If he cannot play at the expected level going into next year you go to Plan B.
He's playing 23 minutes a game. More than enough to "get into the flow." Ramping that up to 30-35 isn't going to change it all that much.
Quote from: ceh on February 05, 2013, 10:31:57 AM
I'm not sure what is going on, but Buzz is definitely sending a message to JW with his PT. Also, I thought with extended minutes on Sunday JW did not look very good and in general seemed lost out there. We are in a bit of a quandary as our 3/4 play has been inconsistent this year. I like the way TL is trending, but he is only 1 guy.
Actually, it is JW who is sending the message to Buzz.
JW's message is: "I'm too laid-back, too willing to drift, too prone to commit silly fouls and not nearly as dependable as a fourth-year player should be. So limit my minutes or you'll be sorry."
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on February 05, 2013, 08:06:25 AM
I brought this up in another thread but thought I would start a new one. Here are Jamil's stats.
Last year...7.1/4.1/1.1 in 24mpg
This year...8.0/4.5/1.6 in 23mpg
If you look at the game logs, he was about as inconsistent as he has been this year. So while he definitely hasn't progressed, I don't think it is fair to say he's regressed.
So I've come to the conclusion that this simply is who he is.
On top of that, he's playing basically the same number of minutes, shooting the same number of FGs, same number of FTs and shooting roughly the same percentages from the floor and from 3. The only numbers that have moved more than a fraction are 3pt attempted per game (0.9 last year to 2.2 this year) and FT% (70.7% to 80.6%).
He is who he is.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on February 05, 2013, 10:38:25 AM
Only if you change the definition of the word "regressed."
Nah...to me you're splitting hairs. He's doing less with more this year. He's taken a step back in that sense. Regressed.
Quote from: NickelDimer on February 05, 2013, 10:55:48 AM
Nah...to me you're splitting hairs. He's doing less with more this year. He's taken a step back in that sense. Regressed.
How is he doing "less with more?" He's playing the same number of minutes....scoring, rebounding, assisting, etc. pretty much at the same rate. He simply hasn't improved.
Why not start Wilson again and then bring Anderson off the bench. Does that help or even make a difference at this point?
What is his foul rate compared to last year? I still feel like he commits a lot of dumb fouls and in some games it has definitely limited his PT
Quote from: Dunk The Ball Eric on February 05, 2013, 11:22:58 AM
What is his foul rate compared to last year? I still feel like he commits a lot of dumb fouls and in some games it has definitely limited his PT
2.8 pg last year...2.5 this year.
Jamil is a solid role player who's going to give 24 hard-fought minutes, 8 points and 4-5 boards. That's what he is and there's nothing wrong with that. I actually wouldn't be surprised if he played a similar role next season while McKay and ST Jr. picked up some of Otule's minutes.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on February 05, 2013, 11:02:02 AM
How is he doing "less with more?" He's playing the same number of minutes....scoring, rebounding, assisting, etc. pretty much at the same rate. He simply hasn't improved.
You're right, but with all the minutes, points, rebounds, etc that needed to be replaced the (fair, I think) assumption was that Jamil would benefit statistically. He (along with Cadougan and Mayo) haven't. Vander, Juan and Davante have.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on February 05, 2013, 11:34:56 AM
You're right, but with all the minutes, points, rebounds, etc that needed to be replaced the (fair, I think) assumption was that Jamil would benefit statistically. He (along with Cadougan and Mayo) haven't. Vander, Juan and Davante have.
+1
He is a average D1 talent, but below average Big East player. He may not be able to handle the leadership role given to him and wants to be the role player.
When we did SOTG predictions I had predicted Jamil to finish a couple of games ahead of the next guy. I've been really surprised that he hasn't stepped into a leading role, but that's college ball for ya. I had a pretty different image of the team in my mind when thinking of Jamil and Lockett than has come to fruition.
Average D1 player, come on? The kid is upper end talent that is not playing consistent basketball. If his numbers are reflective of an underachiever he hardly is average D1 player.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on February 05, 2013, 11:02:02 AM
How is he doing "less with more?" He's playing the same number of minutes....scoring, rebounding, assisting, etc. pretty much at the same rate. He simply hasn't improved.
You don't think his lack of minutes are performance based?
Last year he had a pretty specific role with an alloted amount of minutes. He filled that role to expectations.
This year he's been given much more latitude and imo the chance to earn more minutes and he has not capitalized. So the semantical argument over the word regression is moot. Last year he was serviceable to productive. This year he's been close to terrible. To me that's regression.
Quote from: NickelDimer on February 05, 2013, 12:04:58 PM
You don't think his lack of minutes are performance based?
Last year he had a pretty specific role with an alloted amount of minutes. He filled that role to expectations.
This year he's been given much more latitude and imo the chance to earn more minutes and he has not capitalized. So the semantical argument over the word regression is moot. Last year he was serviceable to productive. This year he's been close to terrible. To me that's regression.
So he's doing the same things but is now "close to terrible" in your book? How does that make sense?
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on February 05, 2013, 12:19:04 PM
So he's doing the same things but is now "close to terrible" in your book? How does that make sense?
Beause it's relative. Do you think he was better in his role last year than he has been this year?
And while he may be doing the same things statistically, I don't think he's played as well this year as he did last year. My eyes tell me that, not stats.
Quote from: RushmoreAcademy on February 05, 2013, 11:55:25 AM
When we did SOTG predictions I had predicted Jamil to finish a couple of games ahead of the next guy. I've been really surprised that he hasn't stepped into a leading role, but that's college ball for ya. I had a pretty different image of the team in my mind when thinking of Jamil and Lockett than has come to fruition.
And yet we're right there near the top of the Big East. All the more reason to praise Buzz's coaching job this year. If we finish top-4, he absolutely deserves Big East Coach of the Year. Of course they'll give it to Boeheim or Pitino, but considering both are in the Iscariot Wing of the league, and considering Buzz lost two NBA Draft picks on a team most seemed to believe wasn't returning any other NBA talent and is still in contention for the league crown speaks volumes to how good a job he's done. Especially considering how much he's changed about the way this team is playing. The man is a wizard at adapting his style to fit his players.
Quote from: Goose on February 05, 2013, 11:57:19 AM
Average D1 player, come on? The kid is upper end talent that is not playing consistent basketball. If his numbers are reflective of an underachiever he hardly is average D1 player.
Unfortunately, Jamil has been incredibly consistent. Except for Green Bay and another game or two, he has been consistently mediocre. For two years now, he pretty much has consistently given the minimum one would expect from somebody with his physical gifts.
Re: coach of the year - if I were voting, people going out the door would not be considered for a vote.
Quote from: NickelDimer on February 05, 2013, 12:50:13 PM
Beause it's relative. Do you think he was better in his role last year than he has been this year?
And while he may be doing the same things statistically, I don't think he's played as well this year as he did last year. My eyes tell me that, not stats.
He's doing the same thing in the same role. He plays 24 minutes off the bench as a role player. I know you use your eyes and ignore stats but in looking at his team rankings this years compared to last year, it actually appears that he's more valuable this season...
Minutes: 5th last year vs 4th this year
Scoring: 6th vs 4th
FG%: 4th vs 4th
3PT %: 2nd vs 1st
Rebounds: 5th vs 3rd
Assists: 6th vs 5th
Blocks: 2nd vs 3rd
Steals: 7th vs 7th
Jamil is a high talent who makes dumb fouls. In a nutshell, that explains his inconsistency.
- Games that Jamil has 3 or more fouls: Averages 1.9 PPG in the first half, and 7 for the game
- Games that Jamil has 2 or less fouls: Averages 5.5 PPG in the first half and 10 for the game
- Games that Jamil has two fouls in the first half: Averages 1.9PPG in the first half and 7.9 for the game
- Losses where he didn't match up well: 2.9PPG vs. 9.1PGG in wins that he did. Gotta to give credit to the teams who also have taller and quicker big match-ups.
Conclusions: Foul trouble, especially on dumb fouls in the first half 45 feet from the basket, kill Jamil's production. Teams he doesn't match up well with on the frontline, prevent him from playing that Jae role Buzz wants. Buzz needs to adjust and find Jamil's spots then in these match-ups. It also helps to play Jamil and Taylor with one of our centers, which was in evidence against Providence and USF. Both Taylor and Jamil can flash at different spots and the threesome then prevent the double team on Gardner as they can collectively work the paint and wide post more effectively. Buzz likes dribble drives versus the zone with paint touches...that hasn't been working with this crew with prolonged success as teams adjsut to prevent the entry. They don't have a DJO or Jae in the lineup.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on February 05, 2013, 11:34:56 AM
You're right, but with all the minutes, points, rebounds, etc that needed to be replaced the (fair, I think) assumption was that Jamil would benefit statistically. He (along with Cadougan and Mayo) haven't. Vander, Juan and Davante have.
Right. Again, he is another player not performing up to expectations. But maybe it was the expectations that were out of whack.
Quote from: brewcity77 on February 05, 2013, 12:51:25 PM
And yet we're right there near the top of the Big East. All the more reason to praise Buzz's coaching job this year. If we finish top-4, he absolutely deserves Big East Coach of the Year. Of course they'll give it to Boeheim or Pitino, but considering both are in the Iscariot Wing of the league, and considering Buzz lost two NBA Draft picks on a team most seemed to believe wasn't returning any other NBA talent and is still in contention for the league crown speaks volumes to how good a job he's done. Especially considering how much he's changed about the way this team is playing. The man is a wizard at adapting his style to fit his players.
We lost less talent than some teams. Plus, our losses were predictable because they ran out of eligibility anyways.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on February 05, 2013, 01:35:37 PM
Right. Again, he is another player not performing up to expectations. But maybe it was the expectations that were out of whack.
Agree. The question is why? When I look at his performances against tough front lines away from home (Butler, Florida and Louisville) I get (unfortunately) a pretty clear picture. In those games he played 60 minutes, made 2-19 shots, never got to the free throw line, scored a grand total of 4 points and had 12 rebounds.
Everyone says he's a really nice kid. Maybe too nice.
I don't know but from my eye test he is not as good this year. A lay up is not equal to a tough shot on great defense just as a board right to you does not have the same effect as a board stolen from the opposing team. Jamil made a huge difference on the full court press which we don't do even close to as much with otule and Gardner playing the 5. Some of that is on buzz but Jamil hasn't found other ways to make as big of an impact. He seems like a player that is great when jacked up so him making a play in full court press seemed to energize him for a big board next trip down. He's like a barbecue lighter without a spark right now.
Quote from: honkytonk on February 05, 2013, 01:42:37 PM
We lost less talent than some teams.
Kentucky (and the other top teams) don't really count. When a borderline top 25 program loses 2 guys to the NBA it's a lot.
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on February 05, 2013, 01:12:19 PM
He's doing the same thing in the same role. He plays 24 minutes off the bench as a role player. I know you use your eyes and ignore stats but in looking at his team rankings this years compared to last year, it actually appears that he's more valuable this season...
Minutes: 5th last year vs 4th this year
Scoring: 6th vs 4th
FG%: 4th vs 4th
3PT %: 2nd vs 1st
Rebounds: 5th vs 3rd
Assists: 6th vs 5th
Blocks: 2nd vs 3rd
Steals: 7th vs 7th
Though we lost 2 huge players and he has been jumped by who I think are lesser players. If he would have remained the same, you would think he would've moved up the list since djo and Jae were stealing all the points.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on February 05, 2013, 01:56:30 PM
Kentucky (and the other top teams) don't really count. When a borderline top 25 program loses 2 guys to the NBA it's a lot.
I was comparing our losses to other BE teams, not teams outside the conference.
Quote from: honkytonk on February 05, 2013, 01:58:46 PM
I was comparing our losses to other BE teams, not teams outside the conference.
We lost the Big East's leading scorer (DJO) and POY (Crowder) to the NBA. Can't imagine anyone lost too much more.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on February 05, 2013, 02:07:26 PM
We lost the Big East's leading scorer (DJO) and POY (Crowder) to the NBA. Can't imagine anyone lost too much more.
Uconn
-HoF HC
-Andre Drummond - 9th pick in lottery (left early)
-Jeremy Lamb - 12th pick in lottery (left early)
-Alex Oriaki - transferred
-Roscoe Smith - transferred
-Michael Bradley - transferred
Syracuse
-Scoop Jardine (graduated)
-Kris Joseph - drafted in 2nd round (graduated)
-Fab Melo - 22nd pick in first round (left early)
-Dion Waiters - 4th pick in lottery (left early)
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on February 05, 2013, 01:30:55 PM
Jamil is a high talent who makes dumb fouls. In a nutshell, that explains his inconsistency.
- Games that Jamil has 3 or more fouls: Averages 1.9 PPG in the first half, and 7 for the game
- Games that Jamil has 2 or less fouls: Averages 5.5 PPG in the first half and 10 for the game
- Games that Jamil has two fouls in the first half: Averages 1.9PPG in the first half and 7.9 for the game
- Losses where he didn't match up well: 2.9PPG vs. 9.1PGG in wins that he did. Gotta to give credit to the teams who also have taller and quicker big match-ups.
Conclusions: Foul trouble, especially on dumb fouls in the first half 45 feet from the basket, kill Jamil's production. Teams he doesn't match up well with on the frontline, prevent him from playing that Jae role Buzz wants. Buzz needs to adjust and find Jamil's spots then in these match-ups. It also helps to play Jamil and Taylor with one of our centers, which was in evidence against Providence and USF. Both Taylor and Jamil can flash at different spots and the threesome then prevent the double team on Gardner as they can collectively work the paint and wide post more effectively. Buzz likes dribble drives versus the zone with paint touches...that hasn't been working with this crew with prolonged success as teams adjsut to prevent the entry. They don't have a DJO or Jae in the lineup.
I think the Dr. is right on point with this one. To add to it further, here's a breakdown of his net points contributions of this year vs last. Note that this year is just a lot more volatile... better highs but worse lows. Personally, just like last year, I fully expect Buzz to figure out how to use him and then minimize the negative performances.
(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee41/roblowe14/Jamil.png)
Quote from: Warrior's Path on February 05, 2013, 02:26:49 PM
I think the Dr. is right on point with this one. To add to it further, here's a breakdown of his net points contributions of this year vs last. Note that this year is just a lot more volatile... better highs but worse lows. Personally, just like last year, I fully expect Buzz to figure out how to use him and then minimize the negative performances.
(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee41/roblowe14/Jamil.png)
OK, so you could say that he has actually been better this year in the context of the team?
Quote from: honkytonk on February 05, 2013, 02:17:50 PM
Uconn
-HoF HC
-Andre Drummond - 9th pick in lottery (left early)
-Jeremy Lamb - 12th pick in lottery (left early)
-Alex Oriaki - transferred
-Roscoe Smith - transferred
-Michael Bradley - transferred
Syracuse
-Scoop Jardine (graduated)
-Kris Joseph - drafted in 2nd round (graduated)
-Fab Melo - 22nd pick in first round (left early)
-Dion Waiters - 4th pick in lottery (left early)
Syracuse is one of those top teams I was talking about. I'll grant you UCONN, though much of what they lost was due to a scandal.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on February 05, 2013, 02:31:46 PM
OK, so you could say that he has actually been better this year in the context of the team?
I would. The problem is that when he's been bad, he's been really bad (Butler, Florida, NC Central, UL).
Like Blackheart said, it's probably because of early foul trouble.
Quote from: honkytonk on February 05, 2013, 02:17:50 PM
Uconn
-HoF HC
-Andre Drummond - 9th pick in lottery (left early)
-Jeremy Lamb - 12th pick in lottery (left early)
-Alex Oriaki - transferred
-Roscoe Smith - transferred
-Michael Bradley - transferred
Before the season started, it was obvious that Lamb was leaving and Drummond was likely a one-and-done. Nothing surprising about those 2 moving on. Oriakhi and Smith were role players and Bradley, based on how he was treated, was never in UConn's long-term plans and never even suited up for the Huskies. IOW, these weren't exactly unexpected, crippling departures.
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on February 05, 2013, 02:59:35 PM
Before the season started, it was obvious that Lamb was leaving and Drummond was likely a one-and-done. Nothing surprising about those 2 moving on. Oriakhi and Smith were role players and Bradley, based on how he was treated, was never in UConn's long-term plans and never even suited up for the Huskies. IOW, these weren't exactly unexpected, crippling departures.
So losing two centers last year wasnt a big deal because they have....who....this year at the position? Enosch Wolf? Im pretty sure they miss Oriakhi. And there is no question he qould get bigger minutes this year.
If that wasnt enough, they also lost two of their 3 forwards. The only true forward they have on the roster is Daniels. Again, Roscoe Smith would also get minutes this year.
What is really odd about Jamil is that he is a versitle player, who does not like physical play. That in itself is not that unusual. What is unusual is that his best position is actually center. He played best last year, when Gardner and Otule were out, because he was playing center.
Just to add onto the Jamil tracker.
Fouls (0), Pts (10), Rebounds (5)
Net Point Contribution (+3.9)
Quote from: Warrior's Path on February 07, 2013, 08:45:11 AM
Just to add onto the Jamil tracker.
Fouls (0), Pts (10), Rebounds (5)
Net Point Contribution (+3.9)
He was very good. Aggressive offensively, no cheap fouls.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on February 07, 2013, 09:03:40 AM
He was very good. Aggressive offensively, no cheap fouls.
"Aggressive" being the key. When he is aggressive - smartly aggressive, without dumb fouls - he is a really good player. His problem is that he too often lets the other team dictate his play.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on February 07, 2013, 09:03:40 AM
He was very good. Aggressive offensively, no cheap fouls.
He was good, but he once again had at least one dumb foul(his first foul off the ball on the baseline in the first half) and if USF was smart would have had at least 2 more because he bought shot fakes like whoa.
He constantly leaves his feet on defense before his man does which results in half of his fouls, especially on close outs.
I like Jamil's physical skill set but for someone that Buzz says is the smartest guy on the team, he sure does a lot of dumb stuff.
Quote from: mu03eng on February 07, 2013, 01:04:17 PM
He was good, but he once again had at least one dumb foul(his first foul off the ball on the baseline in the first half)
The boxscore disagrees with you.
BENCH MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS
Jamil Wilson, F 21 3-9 1-1 3-4 3 5 0 0 1 0 0 10
Looking at BE-only #s may be more instructive:
Mintues - 21.4 in 2013 vs. 27.2 in 2012
FG % - 39.0% vs. 45.3%
3 Pt FG % - 19.0% vs. 35.3%
Point per Game - 6.9 vs. 8.7
Rebounds - 4.7 vs 4.3
FT % 75.0% vs 70.03%
Blocks 7 vs 25 ( 14 vs 25 on a season basis )
In BE play, Jamil is shooting mopre poorly while rebounding about the same while playing 6 less minuts.
Quote from: MU B2002 on February 07, 2013, 01:10:03 PM
The boxscore disagrees with you.
BENCH MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS
Jamil Wilson, F 21 3-9 1-1 3-4 3 5 0 0 1 0 0 10
Guess I'll have to go back and watch the tape again, I swore he had one.
I stand by the rest of my diatribe.