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Title: Embiid at the Bucks Game
Post by: lessthannick11 on November 03, 2012, 08:52:30 PM
At the Bucks game and Embiid was watching with Jamil,  they left before halftime but he's tall
Title: Re: Embiid at the Bucks Game
Post by: mr.MUskie on November 03, 2012, 08:58:40 PM
Quote from: lessthannick11 on November 03, 2012, 08:52:30 PM
At the Bucks game and Embiid was watching with Jamil,  they left before halftime but he's tall

I feel sorry for whoever sat behind them.
Title: Re: Embiid at the Bucks Game
Post by: real chili 83 on November 03, 2012, 09:10:06 PM
Quote from: mr.MUskie on November 03, 2012, 08:58:40 PM
I feel sorry for whoever sat behind them.
;D

Hey, how's the fall Muskie fishin' been?

Heard today that Tonka is hot in the shallows.

Oops, wrong thread.   ;)
Title: Re: Embiid at the Bucks Game
Post by: 4everwarriors on November 03, 2012, 09:36:51 PM
Did Herb hook'em up with the Energee chicks?
Title: Re: Embiid at the Bucks Game
Post by: THEultimateWARRIOR on November 03, 2012, 09:52:02 PM
Jamil is a great ambassador for MU. Love the fact that hes been guiding Embiid all weekend.
Title: Re: Embiid at the Bucks Game
Post by: NickelDimer on November 03, 2012, 10:07:12 PM
Shame he left at halftime...hell of a game
Title: Re: Embiid at the Bucks Game
Post by: real chili 83 on November 03, 2012, 10:10:33 PM
Quote from: thehammock on November 03, 2012, 09:50:24 PM
night cap at apt 720??

Troll?
Title: Re: Embiid at the Bucks Game
Post by: Dawson Rental on November 03, 2012, 10:14:22 PM
Quote from: real chili 83 on November 03, 2012, 10:10:33 PM
Troll?

Why the question mark?
Title: Re: Embiid at the Bucks Game
Post by: real chili 83 on November 03, 2012, 10:15:10 PM
Quote from: LittleMurs on November 03, 2012, 10:14:22 PM
Why the question mark?

+1
Title: Re: Embiid at the Bucks Game
Post by: Dawson Rental on November 03, 2012, 10:16:40 PM
Quote from: NickelDimer on November 03, 2012, 10:07:12 PM
Shame he left at halftime...hell of a game

For us non-Milwaukeeans, did M a M play?  Does he start for Milwaukee?  If not, is he in the rotation?
Title: Re: Embiid at the Bucks Game
Post by: NickelDimer on November 03, 2012, 10:17:16 PM
He's injured
Title: Re: Embiid at the Bucks Game
Post by: mr.MUskie on November 03, 2012, 10:20:22 PM
Quote from: real chili 83 on November 03, 2012, 09:10:06 PM
;D

Hey, how's the fall Muskie fishin' been?

Heard today that Tonka is hot in the shallows.

Oops, wrong thread.   ;)


Replied in the right thread.
Title: Re: Embiid at the Bucks Game
Post by: 4everwarriors on November 03, 2012, 10:25:17 PM
Gotta assume Roy Williams was in MKE today to see somebody other than Obama, aina?
Title: Re: Embiid at the Bucks Game
Post by: real chili 83 on November 03, 2012, 10:31:47 PM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on November 03, 2012, 10:25:17 PM
Gotta assume Roy Williams was in MKE today to see somebody other than Obama, aina?

Heard Roy is at Rickey's right now.   Alone.
Title: Re: Embiid at the Bucks Game
Post by: lessthannick11 on November 03, 2012, 10:44:55 PM
They came back and watched the end of the game it was a great game with a good crowd so hopefully he liked it
Title: Re: Embiid at the Bucks Game
Post by: BCHoopster on November 03, 2012, 11:03:09 PM
Saw buzz, buzzing around with Autry.  What is the legality of this?  Are the tickets from MU or from his mentor?  Interested to know.
Title: Re: Embiid at the Bucks Game
Post by: onepost on November 03, 2012, 11:03:38 PM
Went up to both Embiid and Jamil during halftime to give my best.  Seemed like a nice enough guy and said he was lovin' the trip up to that point.  HAD to have loved that ending to see how nuts the Bradley Center can be.
Title: Re: Embiid at the Bucks Game
Post by: mr.MUskie on November 03, 2012, 11:14:13 PM
Quote from: oneposteagle on November 03, 2012, 11:03:38 PM
Went up to both Embiid and Jamil during halftime to give my best.  Seemed like a nice enough guy and said he was lovin' the trip up to that point.  HAD to have loved that ending to see how nuts the Bradley Center can be.

Are you going to change your name to twoposteagle now?
Title: Re: Embiid at the Bucks Game
Post by: BCHoopster on November 03, 2012, 11:28:37 PM
He had to love seeing an NBA game, to bad is mentor is hurt.  Kansas and Florida have none of that.  Milwaukee is a big league city compared to those 2 college towns.  Emblid
is the missing piece to an amazing recruiting year.  Unfortunately, if he commits a few players are getting the ax, or going pro.  I have no problem if Blue or Mayo leave.  Does John
Dawson show up, maybe, maybe not.  That we will see in a few days if he signs a letter of intent.  The other interesting point, do all these kids have the grades or scores to get
into MU, McKay I am sure needs to graduate with a JC degree.  I can see why Buzz over recruited these players, see who shows up next July 1st on campus.  A lot can happen
between now and then.  But bigtime talent is coming!  Looney and Stone to follow.
Title: Re: Embiid at the Bucks Game
Post by: onepost on November 03, 2012, 11:52:10 PM
Was considering it MUskie but it gives me a bit of an edge.  Couldn't post until JJJ committed, as I jumped the gun on his committment (guess you can't always believe everything coming outta the horse's mouth).  I can't see why Embiid wouldn't wanna end up here and the campus is buzzing (no pun intended) at the fact that we seem to be gaining momentum with him.
Title: Re: Embiid at the Bucks Game
Post by: NersEllenson on November 04, 2012, 12:06:58 AM
It would be absolutely HUGE (pun intended) if Embiid comes to MU - easily a Top 5 recruiting class nationally, and with all of the talent in the program (but shortest in talent at his 5 position), MU could very well be poised and positioned for several VERY deep tourney runs in the next 2-5 years.  I'm talking Elite 8, Final Four, National Championship Game deep.

Come on Jo Jo!  Sign with MU.  We LOVE our basketball...and as a city Milwaukee is a great place to go to school, live and to even be able to play pick up ball games against pros in the summer.
Title: Re: Embiid at the Bucks Game
Post by: Dawson Rental on November 04, 2012, 01:03:45 PM
Quote from: BCHoopster on November 03, 2012, 11:28:37 PM
He had to love seeing an NBA game, to bad is mentor is hurt.  Kansas and Florida have none of that.  Milwaukee is a big league city compared to those 2 college towns.  Emblid
is the missing piece to an amazing recruiting year.  Unfortunately, if he commits a few players are getting the ax, or going pro.  I have no problem if Blue or Mayo leave.  Does John
Dawson show up, maybe, maybe not
.  That we will see in a few days if he signs a letter of intent.  The other interesting point, do all these kids have the grades or scores to get
into MU, McKay I am sure needs to graduate with a JC degree.  I can see why Buzz over recruited these players, see who shows up next July 1st on campus.  A lot can happen
between now and then.  But bigtime talent is coming!  Looney and Stone to follow.

Why is John Dawson's reward for committing to Marquette over several other quality basketball programs have to be repeated questioning over whether we want him?  If recruits put any stock into what some fans on this board had to say, Buzz wouldn't be able to recruit anyone to MU.
Title: Re: Embiid at the Bucks Game
Post by: BCHoopster on November 04, 2012, 01:47:17 PM
I do not want to think this will happen, but how many guards do you need.  Wilson, Johnson, Dawson and Burton.  Besides having many others how do you see it shaking
out?  Does Burton have the grades to get into MU?  MPS student??  I do hope they all show up.  But something has to give if Emblid shows up.  Is Jamil Wilson going pro?
Vander? Mayo?  I truly see them not going pros.
Title: Re: Embiid at the Bucks Game
Post by: GoldenZebra on November 04, 2012, 02:01:39 PM
Quote from: BCHoopster on November 04, 2012, 01:47:17 PM
I do not want to think this will happen, but how many guards do you need.  Wilson, Johnson, Dawson and Burton.  Besides having many others how do you see it shaking
out?  Does Burton have the grades to get into MU?  MPS student??  I do hope they all show up.  But something has to give if Emblid shows up.  Is Jamil Wilson going pro?
Vander? Mayo?  I truly see them not going pros.

Really??? Burton is an MPS student--> so he wont have good grades? Wow. Just. Wow. Jamil, Vander and Mayo all have the strong potential to go pro, maybe not after this year, but eventually...
Title: Re: Embiid at the Bucks Game
Post by: NersEllenson on November 04, 2012, 02:05:37 PM
Quote from: LittleMurs on November 04, 2012, 01:03:45 PM
Why is John Dawson's reward for committing to Marquette over several other quality basketball programs have to be repeated questioning over whether we want him?  If recruits put any stock into what some fans on this board had to say, Buzz wouldn't be able to recruit anyone to MU.

Well said...absolutely no need to speculate in such a way.

Quote from: BCHoopster on November 04, 2012, 01:47:17 PM
I do not want to think this will happen, but how many guards do you need.  Wilson, Johnson, Dawson and Burton.  Besides having many others how do you see it shaking
out?  Does Burton have the grades to get into MU?  MPS student??  I do hope they all show up.  But something has to give if Emblid shows up.  Is Jamil Wilson going pro?
Vander? Mayo?  I truly see them not going pros.

I'm sure Buzz has a very good handle on what will transpire...he and Autry flew out to New Mexico 3 times to sign Dawson.  Just because Dawson is the lowest rated of the recruits, by no means..means he will be the 'worst' player of the bunch.  I like a lot of what I've seen from Dawsons game.  Great tempo and rhythm with which he plays.  NO need to speculate on Burton potentially not being eligible simply due to being an MPS student - he's a good and bright kid.

Pretty sure Jake Thomas won't be on scholarship next year, Otule is a question mark, people seem to think Vander is dying to get paid to play (anywhere), Mayo has a rich brother who conceivably might be able to pay for a year of Todd's college...Mayo could opt to test NBA waters, or Europe, etc.  Lots of ways it all works out...let's not negative speculate on kid like Dawson....Buzz and staff want him in the fold...and he will be in the fold come next fall.
Title: Re: Embiid at the Bucks Game
Post by: TedBaxter on November 04, 2012, 02:07:07 PM
Quote from: BCHoopster on November 04, 2012, 01:47:17 PM
I do not want to think this will happen, but how many guards do you need.  Wilson, Johnson, Dawson and Burton.  Besides having many others how do you see it shaking
out?  Does Burton have the grades to get into MU?  MPS student??  I do hope they all show up.  But something has to give if Emblid shows up.  Is Jamil Wilson going pro?
Vander? Mayo?  I truly see them not going pros.

We lose Cadougan and Lockett this year and Vanderand Thomas will be a seniors next year.  

Wilson Jr. and Dawson are both combo guards and I will contend that Dawson has the potential to be as good as any recruit in this class for Marquette and possibly the most natural point in the group.  Deonte Burton is not a guard in my opinion and I'm not sure I'd call him a swingman.  He might be able to play some 2 and I think he's more of a 2-3-4.  Johnson is your classic wing player.  
Title: Re: Embiid at the Bucks Game
Post by: avid1010 on November 04, 2012, 03:22:30 PM
Quote from: BCHoopster on November 04, 2012, 01:47:17 PM
Does Burton have the grades to get into MU?  MPS student?? 
What a pathetic statement.  Burton has said many times how he wants to attend MU to be a positive figure for the kids at MPS.
Title: Re: Embiid at the Bucks Game
Post by: BCHoopster on November 04, 2012, 03:47:26 PM
How do you know he has the grades?  It might be pathetic but look at MPS and you can see issues, take your blinders off.  He went out east for a year, I am sure
that was to improve his grades as well.   
Title: Re: Embiid at the Bucks Game
Post by: BM1090 on November 04, 2012, 03:49:42 PM
Quote from: BCHoopster on November 04, 2012, 03:47:26 PM
How do you know he has the grades?  It might be pathetic but look at MPS and you can see issues, take your blinders off.  He went out east for a year, I am sure
that was to improve his grades as well.  

He is honor roll at his high school. You are making extremely faulty assumptions.

I know that MPS has a crappy reputation but Burton is fine.
Title: Re: Embiid at the Bucks Game
Post by: avid1010 on November 04, 2012, 04:36:11 PM
Quote from: BCHoopster on November 04, 2012, 03:47:26 PM
How do you know he has the grades?  It might be pathetic but look at MPS and you can see issues, take your blinders off.  He went out east for a year, I am sure
that was to improve his grades as well.   
I didn't make an assumption, other than my assumption that your post was pathetic.   You publicly posted he may not have the grades because he attends an MPS high school?  I held back on my assumption of what kind of person would post that about a kid...

I don't have any blinders on, everyone in aware of MPS's problems...no one is aware of any grade problems for Burton, and by all accounts, he seems like a great kid.  If we wanted to make assumptions based upon statistics related to education and ethnicity, poverty level, etc. I doubt it would look good for the majority of the Div. 1 schools.  Crazy thing is...that pathetic logic doesn't work when talking about individuals.  Hearing that Deonte is on the honor roll seems to prove that. 
Title: Re: Embiid at the Bucks Game
Post by: JakeBarnes on November 04, 2012, 04:59:15 PM
Quote from: avid1010 on November 04, 2012, 04:36:11 PM
I didn't make an assumption, other than my assumption that your post was pathetic.   You publicly posted he may not have the grades because he attends an MPS high school?  I held back on my assumption of what kind of person would post that about a kid...

I don't have any blinders on, everyone in aware of MPS's problems...no one is aware of any grade problems for Burton, and by all accounts, he seems like a great kid.  If we wanted to make assumptions based upon statistics related to education and ethnicity, poverty level, etc. I doubt it would look good for the majority of the Div. 1 schools.  Crazy thing is...that pathetic logic doesn't work when talking about individuals.  Hearing that Deonte is on the honor roll seems to prove that. 

First off, this was a great post.  I'm sure I am not the first person to read it and take a deep breath in the hope that there are more calm rational people on this board than not.

Honestly, I don't get why everyone is up in arms about the possibility, let me repeat that... WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A POSSIBILITY, not actually yet (repeat as needed in Allen Iverson "PRACTICE?!" tone) that Marquette will be oversigned by one.  Last I checked, LOI's haven't been signed, making this all a nice theoretical exercise in who is going to freak out first.

I forgot who had it in their signature, but at one time someone had something along the lines of "lets calm down, these are kids we are talking about."  These are kids we are talking about.  Critique their game as you feel fit.  Yet, the chicken little tendencies of some of this board let the possibility that someone from the current roster may leave (or have to leave for whatever reason) the program as a chance to attack the personal character of people they have never met, much less are even enrolled on campus.  It's sad. 

The fact that we are in contention for these types of players (read: the top 100 talented type) should be one of excitement rather than of handwringing.  Enjoy the ride, everyone.

To bring this back to the relevant thread title: it is good to hear that Embiid had a good time at the game.  Any more details about his visit so far?
Title: Re: Embiid at the Bucks Game
Post by: Marqus Howard on November 04, 2012, 05:22:55 PM
Quote from: JakeBarnes on November 04, 2012, 04:59:15 PM
To bring this back to the relevant thread title: it is good to hear that Embiid had a good time at the game.  Any more details about his visit so far?

He tweeted that he had a great time and "ate 10 cheeseburgers had fun ate cameroonian food"
Title: Re: Embiid at the Bucks Game
Post by: 4everwarriors on November 04, 2012, 05:27:41 PM
Any mention of Jesus Shuttlesworth action?
Title: Re: Embiid at the Bucks Game
Post by: 77ncaachamps on November 04, 2012, 05:44:02 PM
If embiid commits, isn't that a red flag for stone to look elsewhere? There'll be less minutes and he may feel we're okay at that position (no need for him).
Title: Re: Embiid at the Bucks Game
Post by: wrk592 on November 04, 2012, 05:45:33 PM
I was at the party the guys brought Embiid to last night. It was rowdy. They all said they had a great time at the party, and Embiid kept saying he was having an amazing time. He refused to drink, so that made my opinion of him go up too.

Everyone knew who he was and why he was visiting, so he was constantly being talked to about coming to Marquette (good thing or bad thing, IDK, I wonder if he thought that it was annoying, if he did, he didn't show any signs of it). I do wonder how much influence a bunch of piss-drink, white, upper-middle class college students have on these recruits though.

Dude is a big mother-fucker and really stood out at the party. I hope he commits!
Title: Re: Embiid at the Bucks Game
Post by: JakeBarnes on November 04, 2012, 05:58:18 PM
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on November 04, 2012, 05:44:02 PM
If embiid commits, isn't that a red flag for stone to look elsewhere? There'll be less minutes and he may feel we're okay at that position (no need for him).

Or he gets the chance to work against what looks like a very hard working shot blocker that challenges him every day for the next level.  Really depends on how much Stone wants to work.  Always is in a Buzz Williams system.
Title: Re: Embiid at the Bucks Game
Post by: KenoshaWarrior on November 04, 2012, 06:01:07 PM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on November 04, 2012, 05:27:41 PM
Any mention of Jesus Shuttlesworth action?
Lets hope so.  Maybe Jamil Wilson is like Rick Fox
Title: Re: Embiid at the Bucks Game
Post by: KenoshaWarrior on November 04, 2012, 06:03:07 PM
Quote from: wrk592 on November 04, 2012, 05:45:33 PM
I was at the party the guys brought Embiid to last night. It was rowdy. They all said they had a great time at the party, and Embiid kept saying he was having an amazing time. He refused to drink, so that made my opinion of him go up too.

Everyone knew who he was and why he was visiting, so he was constantly being talked to about coming to Marquette (good thing or bad thing, IDK, I wonder if he thought that it was annoying, if he did, he didn't show any signs of it). I do wonder how much influence a bunch of piss-drink, white, upper-middle class college students have on these recruits though.

Dude is a big mother-fracker and really stood out at the party. I hope he commits!

Good to hear.  If it was up to most of the people on this board and Scout they would have taken Joe Emblid to the 4:30 Mass at Gesu than eat at the union, than go to sleep at 10:30
Title: Re: Embiid at the Bucks Game
Post by: bilsu on November 04, 2012, 06:59:31 PM
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on November 04, 2012, 05:44:02 PM
If embiid commits, isn't that a red flag for stone to look elsewhere? There'll be less minutes and he may feel we're okay at that position (no need for him).
First of all you do not turn down a player, because it decreases your chances to get a player two years down the road. Taking that approach would prevent you from ever signing anyone. Second of all, if you read the article by his mentor Embiid wants to play center or power forward. I also believe there is a good chance that Embiid plays only two years in college and therefore he will not be sharing time with Stone.
Title: Re: Embiid at the Bucks Game
Post by: KenoshaWarrior on November 04, 2012, 07:10:12 PM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on November 04, 2012, 05:27:41 PM
Any mention of Jesus Shuttlesworth action?

"I used to love the sister, Nubian Sisters,  Africa All the way. But they make you work to hard, these chicks will wash your drawers" Rick Fox 


Title: Re: Embiid at the Bucks Game
Post by: brewcity77 on November 04, 2012, 07:53:42 PM
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on November 04, 2012, 05:44:02 PM
If embiid commits, isn't that a red flag for stone to look elsewhere? There'll be less minutes and he may feel we're okay at that position (no need for him).

No, after Embiid averages 16 ppg, 11 rpg, and 4 bpg as a sophomore he'll be a lottery pick, so there will still be room for Stone.
Title: Re: Embiid at the Bucks Game
Post by: Clam Crowder on November 04, 2012, 08:22:11 PM
Quote from: BCHoopster on November 03, 2012, 11:03:09 PM
Saw buzz, buzzing around with Autry.  What is the legality of this?  Are the tickets from MU or from his mentor?  Interested to know.

If buzz wasn't with them and we didn't pay for the tickets I don't see what would be wrong. Kids get free tickets for college football games all the time. Very interesting line to be considered actually.
Title: Re: Embiid at the Bucks Game
Post by: Marqus Howard on November 04, 2012, 08:46:49 PM
Quote from: brewcity77 on November 04, 2012, 07:53:42 PM
No, after Embiid averages 16 ppg, 11 rpg, and 4 bpg as a sophomore he'll be a lottery pick, so there will still be room for Stone.

Seems ambitious. I'd expect his numbers to resemble Gorgui Dieng's (not sure how accurate a comparison that is without having seen Embiid play in person, but both are known as elite defenders with an improving offensive game) which were 9 ppg, 9 rbg, 3 bpg last year as a sophomore.
Title: Re: Embiid at the Bucks Game
Post by: Benny B on November 04, 2012, 09:35:29 PM
Quote from: Clam Crowder on November 04, 2012, 08:22:11 PM
If buzz wasn't with them and we didn't pay for the tickets I don't see what would be wrong. Kids get free tickets for college football games all the time. Very interesting line to be considered actually.

Marquette recruits get free tickets from UWM boosters and UWM recruits get free tickets from MU boosters.  That way it's perfectly legal...
Title: Re: Embiid at the Bucks Game
Post by: Dreadman24 on November 04, 2012, 10:49:11 PM
Just got word its between Marquette and Kansas. Lets jeep our fingers crossed
Title: Re: Embiid at the Bucks Game
Post by: THEultimateWARRIOR on November 04, 2012, 11:17:35 PM
Quote from: Dreadman24 on November 04, 2012, 10:49:11 PM
Just got word its between Marquette and Kansas. Lets jeep our fingers crossed
Is this for sure? Sounds like he had a pretty good time.
Title: Re: Embiid at the Bucks Game
Post by: Wojo Era on November 04, 2012, 11:19:26 PM
Quote from: Dreadman24 on November 04, 2012, 10:49:11 PM
Just got word its between Marquette and Kansas. Lets jeep our fingers crossed

If this info is correct, I love our chances
Title: Re: Embiid at the Bucks Game
Post by: MU Buff on November 04, 2012, 11:21:36 PM
I'm trying not to get too excited about this possibility but it's damn near impossible at this point
Title: Re: Embiid at the Bucks Game
Post by: NersEllenson on November 04, 2012, 11:54:39 PM
Come on Jo Jo - Make it Marquette!  Tons of PT available at the 4 and 5 position, and far less chance of being recruited over at MU than KU....plus come ball in a major league city as opposed to a small town in the middle of Kansas.  Top 3 recruiting class if JoJo signs!
Title: Re: Embiid at the Bucks Game
Post by: Markusquette on November 04, 2012, 11:57:55 PM
Crossing fingers!  Hope he had a blast this weekend.  He's gotta know he has so much opportunity here at MU.  Plus the 2013 class is loaded.
Title: Re: Embiid at the Bucks Game
Post by: brewcity77 on November 05, 2012, 12:50:42 AM
Quote from: Ners on November 04, 2012, 11:54:39 PMTop 3 recruiting class if JoJo signs!

I still think we're around 5th-6th. Kentucky's class is arguably the best in history if they land Wiggins. Florida and Memphis with 2 five-star players each will almost certainly stay ahead. Duke and Kansas both already have stud classes and 2 guys higher than our highest (depending on where Embiid rises to). Depending on who they add either or both could stay ahead of us.

Regardless, it would be one of the best 1-5 plus a 6th man classes in the country and undoubtedly the best Marquette class of my life. I have had Embiid at the top of my wish list for quite awhile now. Hope he picks MU.
Title: Re: Embiid at the Bucks Game
Post by: 4everwarriors on November 05, 2012, 04:48:27 AM
Sure hope the Bucks don't go now and trade Mbah a Moute to the Kansas City Kings.
Title: Re: Embiid at the Bucks Game
Post by: ATL MU Warrior on November 05, 2012, 06:28:34 AM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on November 05, 2012, 04:48:27 AM
Sure hope the Bucks don't go now and trade Mbah a Moute to the Kansas City Kings.
Sssshhhhh!  Don't go giving them any ideas  ;D
Title: Re: Embiid at the Bucks Game
Post by: Chicos' Buzz Scandal Countdown on November 05, 2012, 08:38:15 AM
Not following this at all until a few google searches just now.

Fellow Cameroon native Luc Mbah a Moute of the Milwaukee Bucks has been assisting Embiid in the recruiting process.

"It's really tight between those schools," Mbah a Moute told the Racine Journal-Times. Embiid is new to the workings of major-college basketball. He took up the sport less than two years ago.

"We're going to narrow it down to three schools next week," Mbah a Moute told the Journal-Times. "We'll be looking for an opportunity to play a lot right away. He hasn't played that long and needs to continue his development. And, of course, we're going to look at academics and what these schools can offer him."


http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2012/nov/03/ku-basketball-recruit-joel-embiid-narrow-list-next/

I'm sure I'm not breaking news to anyone who pays more attention than me, but that's a pretty huge deal to live in the same town as close as Mbah seems to be. Seems the Bucks don't mind keeping him around for the next 4 years at least.

Again - I've spent less time on this than others but we've got to be the favorite right now... especially with the top priority being playing time.
Title: Re: Embiid at the Bucks Game
Post by: Ellenson Guerrero on November 05, 2012, 09:05:31 AM
Quote from: Dreadman24 on November 04, 2012, 10:49:11 PM
Just got word its between Marquette and Kansas. Lets jeep our fingers crossed

Can you provide any context for where this info is coming from?
Title: Re: Embiid at the Bucks Game
Post by: Dawson Rental on November 05, 2012, 10:12:00 AM
Quote from: TrueBlueAndGold on November 04, 2012, 05:22:55 PM
He tweeted that he had a great time and "ate 10 cheeseburgers had fun ate cameroonian food"

Anybody know a good Cameroonian restaurant in Lawrence, KS?  Neither do I.
Title: Re: Embiid at the Bucks Game
Post by: Benny B on November 05, 2012, 10:31:15 AM
With Withey's graduation this year and no 2013 bigs yet committed, it appears KU could have immediate minutes for Embiid at the 5 right away.... it all boils down to what they have in three-star freshman Landen Lucas.  That said, I don't think Buzz signs Embiid unless he's 99% that CO is in his final year; in which case, the 5 is definitely wide open at MU.

If it boils down to PT, MU has to have the advantage there.  Even if CO returned, that may at least bode well on the development side (having another, "not-as-experienced-out-of-HS" big to work with).

KU is more "middle of the road" when it comes to development and PT, though... he'll have another body in Lucas to work against in practice, but how much experience will Lucas get this year with Withey playing the bulk of the minutes?  Do you want to be developing two inexperienced bigs against each other in practice, or do you want a seasoned veteran?

Granted CO is not likely to win any national accolades this year, I would still think he would be a better development partner in practice than Lucas.

Which BTW, I know this is rare territory, but if done strictly in Embiid's free time, is there any NCAA rule that says he can't pop over to an NBA practice session or that an NBA player can't show up for a "pick-up" game at the Al once in a while?  In other words, could Embiid enjoy - without jeopardizing eligibility - an occasional visit from and/or an unofficial practice session with his mentor and his friends, Larry, John, Joel, etc.
Title: Re: Embiid at the Bucks Game
Post by: brewcity77 on November 05, 2012, 10:42:54 AM
Recently I heard a story about how Dwyane Wade and Ray Allen first competed against each other and had some of their best times during practices while Wade was at Marquette and Allen was with the Bucks. I have little doubt that those unofficial practice sessions already happen on a somewhat regular basis. Regarding Kansas, they don't have true centers, but they do have a lot of power forwards coming in that will all be vying for time. Perry Ellis, Zach Peters, and Jamari Traylor will all compete for time at the 4 and 5. I could see Peters being the primary guy replacing Withey after this year. He's got the frame of a center.
Title: Re: Embiid at the Bucks Game
Post by: Bieberhole69 on November 05, 2012, 10:59:35 AM
Quote from: brewcity77 on November 05, 2012, 10:42:54 AM
Recently I heard a story about how Dwyane Wade and Ray Allen first competed against each other and had some of their best times during practices while Wade was at Marquette and Allen was with the Bucks. I have little doubt that those unofficial practice sessions already happen on a somewhat regular basis. Regarding Kansas, they don't have true centers, but they do have a lot of power forwards coming in that will all be vying for time. Perry Ellis, Zach Peters, and Jamari Traylor will all compete for time at the 4 and 5. I could see Peters being the primary guy replacing Withey after this year. He's got the frame of a center.

Danny Manning was a huge part of developing Robinson, Aldrich, the Morris twins and others at Kansas.  He's at Tulsa now, so I'm not sure who is filling his shoes, but that's a big loss for KU.
Title: Re: Embiid at the Bucks Game
Post by: NersEllenson on November 05, 2012, 11:24:35 AM
Quote from: brewcity77 on November 05, 2012, 10:42:54 AM
Recently I heard a story about how Dwyane Wade and Ray Allen first competed against each other and had some of their best times during practices while Wade was at Marquette and Allen was with the Bucks. I have little doubt that those unofficial practice sessions already happen on a somewhat regular basis. Regarding Kansas, they don't have true centers, but they do have a lot of power forwards coming in that will all be vying for time. Perry Ellis, Zach Peters, and Jamari Traylor will all compete for time at the 4 and 5. I could see Peters being the primary guy replacing Withey after this year. He's got the frame of a center.

Just to tack on - there has been a long tradition of Bucks players playing pick up games with MU players during the off season.  Shawn Respert and Glenn Robinson used to come to the Helfaer and play as did a lot of the MU guys back then during the off season.  I had a lot of good runs with Respert, Big Dog, Amal, Dwaine Streeter, Shane Littles, Zach McCall, Hutch, Polonowski between 1994-1997.  Never saw Marty Conlon at The Rec though, which was a major disappointment.
Title: Re: Embiid at the Bucks Game
Post by: martyconlonontherun on November 05, 2012, 11:37:09 AM
Quote from: Ners on November 05, 2012, 11:24:35 AM
  Never saw Marty Conlon at The Rec though, which was a major disappointment.

:'(
Title: Re: Embiid at the Bucks Game
Post by: Tugg Speedman on November 05, 2012, 01:35:04 PM
What happened to the rule that if he does not commit on his official visit, he will not?  Since he has not, does that mean he's lost?

How did this theory work out with JJJ?
Title: Re: Embiid at the Bucks Game
Post by: tower912 on November 05, 2012, 01:44:34 PM
Saw Tony Smith dunk over Terry Cummings twice in the same game at the Rec Center. 
Title: Re: Embiid at the Bucks Game
Post by: ATWizJr on November 05, 2012, 02:23:00 PM
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on November 05, 2012, 01:35:04 PM
What happened to the rule that if he does not commit on his official visit, he will not?  Since he has not, does that mean he's lost?

How did this theory work out with JJJ?
How do you know that JJJ did not commit to Buzz during the visit?
Title: Re: Embiid at the Bucks Game
Post by: Ellenson Guerrero on November 05, 2012, 02:31:44 PM
Quote from: ATWizJr on November 05, 2012, 02:23:00 PM
How do you know that JJJ did not commit to Buzz during the visit?

Doesn't change the point being made that you can't draw any inferences from the fact that a player made a visit but hasn't made a public commitment.
Title: Re: Embiid at the Bucks Game
Post by: esotericmindguy on November 05, 2012, 03:22:02 PM
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on November 05, 2012, 01:35:04 PM
What happened to the rule that if he does not commit on his official visit, he will not?  Since he has not, does that mean he's lost?

How did this theory work out with JJJ?

Let it go, it wasn't funny two weeks ago.
Title: Re: Embiid at the Bucks Game
Post by: ATWizJr on November 05, 2012, 04:24:28 PM
Quote from: AWegrzyn17 on November 05, 2012, 02:31:44 PM
Doesn't change the point being made that you can't draw any inferences from the fact that a player made a visit but hasn't made a public commitment.
Thanks for the help in making my point.
Title: Re: Embiid at the Bucks Game
Post by: Ellenson Guerrero on November 05, 2012, 07:07:21 PM
So your point is that players always commit on one of their visits, we all just don't know about it? I'm pretty sure that is empirically false and doesn't help us any even if it were true.
Title: Re: Embiid at the Bucks Game
Post by: Dawson Rental on November 05, 2012, 08:13:36 PM
Quote from: ATWizJr on November 05, 2012, 02:23:00 PM
How do you know that JJJ did not commit to Buzz during the visit?

JJJ is on the record saying he didn't make up his mind until last week.  Are you calling him a liar?
Title: Re: Embiid at the Bucks Game
Post by: ATWizJr on November 05, 2012, 09:41:00 PM
Quote from: LittleMurs on November 05, 2012, 08:13:36 PM
JJJ is on the record saying he didn't make up his mind until last week.  Are you calling him a liar?
Maybe he was trying to let someone down easy. 
Title: Re: Embiid at the Bucks Game
Post by: 🏀 on November 05, 2012, 10:32:24 PM
Dakari Johnson reclassified to 2013 from 2014. Both Florida and Kansas chasing him. I'd be awesome for him to commit too Kansas soon to make Embiid's decision really easy.
Title: Re: Embiid at the Bucks Game
Post by: JakeBarnes on November 05, 2012, 11:32:36 PM
Quote from: PTM on November 05, 2012, 10:32:24 PM
Dakari Johnson reclassified to 2013 from 2014. Both Florida and Kansas chasing him. I'd be awesome for him to commit too Kansas soon to make Embiid's decision really easy.

Saw this.  It would make things really interesting if that happened.  Kansas fans seem pretty excited about it and are already talking about how they shouldn't really have to worry about Joel with Dakari reclassifying.  Let's hope the Kansas staff sees it the same way...
Title: Re: Embiid at the Bucks Game
Post by: mug644 on November 06, 2012, 03:55:12 AM
I've not seen Embiid play, but I can't help but think it is either quite presumptuous of Mbah a Mboute to expect that someone who has only been playing to just over two years will be given immediate playing time at an upper level school. How many guys with just two years' experience are really ready to contribute--as an all-around player on both offense and defense--on a team that has hopes for a deep run in the tourney.

Maybe he's just that good, despite his inexperience, but it strikes me as rather brash.

If he's that good, get him here! If he's inexperienced, I hope he'll be ready to put in time learning, being ready for future years.
Title: Re: Embiid at the Bucks Game
Post by: bilsu on November 06, 2012, 08:25:55 AM
He is expected to be ranked in top 50 in the next recruiting rankings.
Title: Re: Embiid at the Bucks Game
Post by: Benny B on November 06, 2012, 09:11:07 AM
Quote from: PTM on November 05, 2012, 10:32:24 PM
Dakari Johnson reclassified to 2013 from 2014. Both Florida and Kansas chasing him. I'd be awesome for him to commit too Kansas soon to make Embiid's decision really easy.

Exactly.

Kansas has a gaping hole in the "dominant big man" role starting next year, and with no more on the board prior to yesterday, Christmas just came early for KU... look for them to go hard after Dakari.
Title: Re: Embiid at the Bucks Game
Post by: Dawson Rental on November 06, 2012, 09:15:37 AM
Quote from: Benny B on November 06, 2012, 09:11:07 AM
Exactly.

Kansas has a gaping hole in the "dominant big man" role starting next year, and with no more on the board prior to yesterday, Christmas just came early for KU... look for them to go hard after Dakari.

Even if KU doesn't get Dakari Johnson, how hard they go after him may tell Embiid all he needs to know about where he stands with Kansas.
Title: Re: Embiid at the Bucks Game
Post by: mug644 on November 06, 2012, 09:25:18 AM
Quote from: bilsu on November 06, 2012, 08:25:55 AM
He is expected to be ranked in top 50 in the next recruiting rankings.

I'm a skeptic by nature, but I can't help but wonder how someone could start playing two years ago, and be in the top 50 already. He's either a freak or he's getting pumped up like Darko Milicic (or Brett Roseboro; just kididng to make a point).

Again, what do I know? Not much.
Title: Re: Embiid at the Bucks Game
Post by: Dawson Rental on November 06, 2012, 09:29:19 AM
Quote from: mug644 on November 06, 2012, 09:25:18 AM
I'm a skeptic by nature, but I can't help but wonder how someone could start playing two years ago, and be in the top 50 already. He's either a freak or he's getting pumped up like Darko Milicic (or Brett Roseboro; just kididng to make a point).

Again, what do I know? Not much.

Hopefully, we all get a chance to see first hand.
Title: Re: Embiid at the Bucks Game
Post by: tower912 on November 06, 2012, 09:30:30 AM
Hakeem Olajuwan.    Not saying that Embiid ends up that good, but he is an athletic 7 ft who played many other sports before turning to basketball.    So, if he has good footwork and eye-hand coordination, along with a work ethic, why can't he play basketball at a high level in only 2 years?
Title: Re: Embiid at the Bucks Game
Post by: MU82 on November 06, 2012, 09:36:23 AM
Quote from: mug644 on November 06, 2012, 09:25:18 AM
I'm a skeptic by nature, but I can't help but wonder how someone could start playing two years ago, and be in the top 50 already. He's either a freak or he's getting pumped up like Darko Milicic (or Brett Roseboro; just kididng to make a point).

Again, what do I know? Not much.

Darko Milicic wasn't ready to be a pro, but I'm guessing that he would have been an outstanding college player, especially if he stuck around for a second season of college ball and especially if he had good coaching.
Title: Re: Embiid at the Bucks Game
Post by: Ellenson Guerrero on November 07, 2012, 09:01:12 AM
Apparently this guy who follows UVA pretty closely is under the impression that Embiid will announce this week. From the rumors floated about on twitter by KU fans it sounded like he would cut the list to KU, FL, and MU this week, and make a final decision next week. 

@WahooBasketball
Quick recruiting update - big men Shuyler Rimmer and Joel Embiid set to announce this week. Both significant targets for the staff.

Title: Re: Embiid at the Bucks Game
Post by: spartan3186 on November 07, 2012, 09:07:38 AM
Quote from: mug644 on November 06, 2012, 03:55:12 AM
I've not seen Embiid play, but I can't help but think it is either quite presumptuous of Mbah a Mboute to expect that someone who has only been playing to just over two years will be given immediate playing time at an upper level school. How many guys with just two years' experience are really ready to contribute--as an all-around player on both offense and defense--on a team that has hopes for a deep run in the tourney.

Maybe he's just that good, despite his inexperience, but it strikes me as rather brash.

If he's that good, get him here! If he's inexperienced, I hope he'll be ready to put in time learning, being ready for future years.

How about Hasheem Thabeet. I seem to recall him not starting to play basketball until he was 15.
Title: Re: Embiid at the Bucks Game
Post by: Splash11 on November 07, 2012, 11:37:20 AM
Quote from: mug644 on November 06, 2012, 03:55:12 AM
I've not seen Embiid play, but I can't help but think it is either quite presumptuous of Mbah a Mboute to expect that someone who has only been playing to just over two years will be given immediate playing time at an upper level school. How many guys with just two years' experience are really ready to contribute--as an all-around player on both offense and defense--on a team that has hopes for a deep run in the tourney.

Maybe he's just that good, despite his inexperience, but it strikes me as rather brash.

If he's that good, get him here! If he's inexperienced, I hope he'll be ready to put in time learning, being ready for future years.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBwSvIOOzMo

I'd imagine most of you on here have seen this already, but a 6'11" big man with a vertical like that is pretty impressive no matter how long he's been playing. And if he's able to do this after only one year, then I can only see his stock going higher and higher.
Title: Re: Embiid at the Bucks Game
Post by: M@RQUETTEW@RRIORS on November 07, 2012, 11:53:12 AM
Quote from: tower912 on November 06, 2012, 09:30:30 AM
Hakeem Olajuwan.    Not saying that Embiid ends up that good, but he is an athletic 7 ft who played many other sports before turning to basketball.    So, if he has good footwork and eye-hand coordination, along with a work ethic, why can't he play basketball at a high level in only 2 years?

Exactly the comparison I would make.  Very coordinated and athletic.  Very quick spins with and without the ball.
Title: Re: Embiid at the Bucks Game
Post by: Pakuni on November 07, 2012, 12:02:55 PM
FYI .... Scout's Evan Daniels is reporting that Embiid will announce his decision next week, but first cut two from his final five and meet with the other three.
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