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Demarcus Croaker @Dcroaker5
Just got a offer from #Marquette Thank you god
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/102320/demarcus-croaker
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Demarcus-Croaker-104145
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zac3H1u2dJA
Lotta 2013 offers floating around out there from Marquette it seems.
Quote from: Bocephys on July 16, 2012, 04:54:43 PM
Lotta 2013 offers floating around out there from Marquette it seems.
Yeah, really. Am I the only guy who hasn't received an offer yet?
So he can dunk...
Quote from: Bocephys on July 16, 2012, 04:54:43 PM
Lotta 2013 offers floating around out there from Marquette it seems.
And a bunch are SGs......
Umm, half of those highlights show him donning a wife beater. Is that what he sends to coaches? Maybe him and Reggie Smith can join the And1 tour with their cute dunks.
Awesome highlight video, seems to be the athletic, get-out-in-transition guy that Buzz always looks for. He's listed as a small forward, but at 6'3, I would expect him to play SG.
My takeaway from the video is that he is very athletic, but needs to work on his left hand. Almost all his finishes going left ended up being shot with his right hand.
Quote from: esotericmindguy on July 16, 2012, 05:22:53 PM
Umm, half of those highlights show him donning a wife beater. Is that what he sends to coaches? Maybe him and Reggie Smith can join the And1 tour with their cute dunks.
Are you really a jagoff or just play one on the internet?
You know, some of you try to be comedians and recruits do read this stuff and your comments don't represent Marquette well at all. Think about it.
Quote from: TedBaxter on July 16, 2012, 05:56:59 PM
Are you really a jagoff or just play one on the internet?
You know, some of you try to be comedians and recruits do read this stuff and your comments don't represent Marquette well at all. Think about it.
+1....simply lame comment.
Thought esoteric's comment was pretty funny and true. A highlight vid composed of ~80% dunkage, some of which are staged is pretty worthless. Indicative of today's b-ball culture though.
I'm not going to lie, his body and his moves look like Wade.
Settle down, if mr. Croaker doesn't come here because of a comment on the scoop, then my guess is Marquette is better off. He might be good, but everyone was all giddy over Reggie smith 2 years ago based on some summer ball mix tape. Just sayin.
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on July 16, 2012, 06:11:38 PM
I'm not going to lie, his body and his moves look like Wade.
A couple of the euro-steps he did made me think the same thing.
The dude is an athlete, no doubt about it. Had a couple of nice pull up jumpers in that vid, but that's about it outside the dunking. I mean it IS a highlight video, not a scouting video.
Let me guess. With that last name, the cat wants to be a doctor?
Gotta like the athleticism, but I can't imagine this bodes well for Mayo's situation. Still would prefer Nunn.
Quote from: Stone Cold on July 16, 2012, 06:09:43 PM
Thought esoteric's comment was pretty funny and true. A highlight vid composed of ~80% dunkage, some of which are staged is pretty worthless. Indicative of today's b-ball culture though.
i guess you could look at it that way, or you could look at it as seeing an extremely athletic kid (as shown in the video) that must be able to do the other stuff at a level that buzz feels is good enough for mu. players develop well under buzz and this kid certainly seems to have the athleticism to have a high ceiling.
Quote from: Stone Cold on July 16, 2012, 06:09:43 PM
Thought esoteric's comment was pretty funny and true. A highlight vid composed of ~80% dunkage, some of which are staged is pretty worthless. Indicative of today's b-ball culture though.
Yeah, 25 years ago nobody was into dunking. They preferred laying the ball gently into the peach basket. That is, when they were stroking a smooth set shot from distance.
These kids today ....
Quote from: Pakuni on July 16, 2012, 08:44:17 PM
Yeah, 25 years ago nobody was into dunking. They preferred laying the ball gently into the peach basket. That is, when they were stroking a smooth set shot from distance.
These kids today ....
i thought jake thomas was an old school traditionalist...till i heard he had a put back dunk at the pro-am...i'm assuming his fundamentals and shooting touch are now lost forever.
I'll go out on a limb and say Buzz did not just watch the YouTube videos and say, "Wow, sweet dunks!" and then offer.
C'mon, fellas.
Dunk opportunities result in a very small percentage of offensive series within a college game of basketball.
I'd rather see pull up jumpers, jumpers rolling/fading off screens, steals, assists, etc. for a highlight video to even begin to be worthwhile as far as evaluating a guy's game.
Croaker seemed to want to put out his And1 skills, staged dunks in wife beaters, etc. Indicative of what is cool these days but not what I'd put together for a true highlight film. The dumbing down of basketball is what that highlight film was.
Not going to impress too many basketball coaches and knowledgeable fans.
Quote from: Stone Cold on July 16, 2012, 09:13:40 PM
Dunk opportunities result in a very small percentage of offensive series within a college game of basketball.
I'd rather see pull up jumpers, jumpers rolling/fading off screens, steals, assists, etc. for a highlight video to even begin to be worthwhile as far as evaluating a guy's game.
Croaker seemed to want to put out his And1 skills, staged dunks in wife beaters, etc. Indicative of what is cool these days but not what I'd put together for a true highlight film. The dumbing down of basketball is what that highlight film was.
Not going to impress too many basketball coaches and knowledgeable fans.
Sorry, but a layup or midrange jumper is not a highlight. These are highlight videos. Highlights are dunks and crossing somebody over. This is not a recruiting video. Kids don't put their recruiting videos, what they send to college coaches and scouts, on YouTube. Just like college coaches do not go to YouTube to find recruits. They go to games and watch them live and watch their recruiting (not highlight) videos. Highlights are for fans, not coaches. YouTube is to get views, not scholarships.
Not to mention it wasn't him that put the highlight video together....
Quote from: wadesworld on July 16, 2012, 09:21:17 PM
Sorry, but a layup or midrange jumper is not a highlight. These are highlight videos. Highlights are dunks and crossing somebody over. This is not a recruiting video. Kids don't put their recruiting videos, what they send to college coaches and scouts, on YouTube. Just like college coaches do not go to YouTube to find recruits. They go to games and watch them live and watch their recruiting (not highlight) videos. Highlights are for fans, not coaches. YouTube is to get views, not scholarships.
For simple fans or kids yes I'm sure they like that. I look at the 50 dunks and go "okay you can jump, what else can you do consistently?" Not really that impressed with that video.
You could be right, lots of crap on Youtube and maybe Youtube is just for the dunk highlights.
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on July 16, 2012, 06:11:38 PM
I'm not going to lie, his body and his moves look like Wade.
I actually thought the same thing. Still needs to work on finishing with the left hand though.
Very Wade-like in his moves. Can see him thrive in an attacking transition game. Lots of dunks but can he shoot?
Quote from: esotericmindguy on July 16, 2012, 06:26:54 PM
He might be good, but everyone was all giddy over Reggie smith 2 years ago based on some summer ball mix tape. Just sayin.
Speaking of Reggie, anyone hear if he landed at his third school? A Google search comes up empty other than to say he is still looking. Hope the kid didn't screw the pooch...again.
Quote from: Stone Cold on July 16, 2012, 09:13:40 PM
Dunk opportunities result in a very small percentage of offensive series within a college game of basketball.
I'd rather see pull up jumpers, jumpers rolling/fading off screens, steals, assists, etc. for a highlight video to even begin to be worthwhile as far as evaluating a guy's game.
Croaker seemed to want to put out his And1 skills, staged dunks in wife beaters, etc. Indicative of what is cool these days but not what I'd put together for a true highlight film. The dumbing down of basketball is what that highlight film was.
Not going to impress too many basketball coaches and knowledgeable fans.
It isn't hard to search Youtube and found highlights from this game from last year. He's #5 in white and shows more than dunking.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqD22dE7jLU
I see why Buzz likes him...very long and athletic. Looks like Jamal Ferguson.
I saw this last night, for what it's worth:
Chip Sylvie @IllianaAAU
"Been busy on this grind. Still thinking Kendrick Nunn goes to Marquette... I don't know. My hunch I suppose."
Quote from: TedBaxter on July 17, 2012, 05:20:36 AM
It isn't hard to search Youtube and found highlights from this game from last year. He's #5 in white and shows more than dunking.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqD22dE7jLU
That vid told a lot better story. Thanks.
Liked the way he shuffled his feet and stayed in front of the other star player on defense. Very quick feet.
Shot had pretty good form and I agree he's got D Wadeish maneuverability to the hoop.
Would love to get this kid.
As far as the importance of dunking in college, I have one name... Trend Blackledge. (I like Trend, but his other skills were lacking)
Also, Does anyone know if DeMarcus will play the two or three. We have a bunch of SGs.
Quote from: BRMU23 on July 17, 2012, 11:28:19 AM
As far as the importance of dunking in college, I have one name... Trend Blackledge. (I like Trend, but his other skills were lacking)
Also, Does anyone know if DeMarcus will play the two or three. We have a bunch of SGs.
In Buzz's offense, the 2, 3, and 4 are entirely interchangeable.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on July 17, 2012, 11:38:21 AM
In Buzz's offense, the 2, 3, and 4 are entirely interchangeable.
While there's a lot of overlap, there was a big difference in the roles of a guy like DJO and a guy like Crowder. While 2-3 overlap and 3-4 also overlap, there aren't many guys we have that truly play all 3. Jamil Wilson and Vander Blue probably come the closest right now.
Quote from: brewcity77 on July 17, 2012, 11:52:26 AM
While there's a lot of overlap, there was a big difference in the roles of a guy like DJO and a guy like Crowder. While 2-3 overlap and 3-4 also overlap, there aren't many guys we have that truly play all 3. Jamil Wilson and Vander Blue probably come the closest right now.
Well of course....when you actually plug the players in, they are going to play to their strengths. The point is that asking if someone is going to play the "2 or the 3" is not really relevant because the positions themselves are interchangeable.
Now, assuming that we have a point and a post in the game, and Jamil is on the floor, he is going to be near the basket more likley than not. But if he isn't in, and you have Blue, Lockett and Mayo (for example) on the floor, there really isn't someone in that type of position...and that is OK.
I veiw it as our forward spots are interchangable and or wing spots are interchangable, It just depends if we have a 2 Forward out there or 2 wings. Croaker is wing in our system but that could be the 2 or 3. The only guy that I look at as both is Lockett at this point, and maybe Wilson next year.
Quote from: Bieberhole69 on July 17, 2012, 09:20:12 AM
I saw this last night, for what it's worth:
Chip Sylvie @IllianaAAU
"Been busy on this grind. Still thinking Kendrick Nunn goes to Marquette... I don't know. My hunch I suppose."
That sounds fantastic. Thanks Bieberhole69!
Quote from: BRMU23 on July 17, 2012, 11:28:19 AM
As far as the importance of dunking in college, I have one name... Trend Blackledge. (I like Trend, but his other skills were lacking)
Also, Does anyone know if DeMarcus will play the two or three. We have a bunch of SGs.
No. No one "knows". Actually, no one even knows if he will play ANY position at Marquette, right? Nobody (especially DeMarcus himself) has said he's actually coming to Marquette.
Quote from: Bieberhole69 on July 17, 2012, 09:20:12 AM
I saw this last night, for what it's worth:
Chip Sylvie @IllianaAAU
"Been busy on this grind. Still thinking Kendrick Nunn goes to Marquette... I don't know. My hunch I suppose."
Hopefully this happens, but even if it does... Buzz better not call off the dogs on other targets.
/ducks
Mr. Croaker seems like a fine young man, a future multiple Stud of the Game winner and a credit to the human race.
There. If he's reading this, he now knows he is loved and can commit to Marquette with a clear mind.
Quote from: leever on July 17, 2012, 01:22:30 PM
No. No one "knows". Actually, no one even knows if he will play ANY position at Marquette, right? Nobody (especially DeMarcus himself) has said he's actually coming to Marquette.
I'm going to go out on a limb here, and say that I think that BRMU23 was asking a "what if" question that assumed that
if DeMarcus Croaker decided to come to MU,
what position did the rest of us see him playing. His question seemed to result in a short, but interesting, discussion about the role of the traditional 2, 3, and 4 positions in Buzz's offense, and in a sad attempt at a smack down by you.
Quote from: LittleMurs on July 18, 2012, 02:30:43 PM
I'm going to go out on a limb here, and say that I think that BRMU23 was asking a "what if" question that assumed that if DeMarcus Croaker decided to come to MU, what position did the rest of us see him playing. His question seemed to result in a short, but interesting, discussion about the role of the traditional 2, 3, and 4 positions in Buzz's offense, and in a sad attempt at a smack down by you.
I apologize! Just seemed a little premature to discuss what position a recruit WILL play before he commits to play here at all. I'll attempt to refrain from any future sad attempts.
Quote from: LittleMurs on July 18, 2012, 02:30:43 PM
I'm going to go out on a limb here, and say that I think that BRMU23 was asking a "what if" question that assumed that if DeMarcus Croaker decided to come to MU, what position did the rest of us see him playing. His question seemed to result in a short, but interesting, discussion about the role of the traditional 2, 3, and 4 positions in Buzz's offense, and in a sad attempt at a smack down by you.
Thank you LittleMurs. Leever, settle down chief. Let me rephrase my question for those of you who only see in black and white; does anyone know which position DeMarcus wants to/is most suitable to play? In that highlight reel, i did not see him handle the ball that much, leading me to believe his skills are more attuned to the 3 position.
Quote from: BRMU23 on July 19, 2012, 09:50:20 AM
Thank you LittleMurs. Leever, settle down chief. Let me rephrase my question for those of you who only see in black and white; does anyone know which position DeMarcus wants to/is most suitable to play? In that highlight reel, i did not see him handle the ball that much, leading me to believe his skills are more attuned to the 3 position.
The problem is that there really are only 3 positions in Buzz's offense. Center, PG and wing.
Quote from: TedBaxter on July 17, 2012, 05:20:36 AM
It isn't hard to search Youtube and found highlights from this game from last year. He's #5 in white and shows more than dunking.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqD22dE7jLU
Thanks for the link.
He has a nice looking shot and range beyond the three is a must in Buzz's offense.
The kid still has Wade-esque air about him. Must be the ease and control when driving to the hoop.
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on July 16, 2012, 06:11:38 PM
I'm not going to lie, his body and his moves look like Wade.
When I first read your comment I thought, "come on, only one Wade." I have to admit though, when I looked at the video I had to agree with you. That step over and the way he finishes hard from the rim on the side, it really did look like Wade out there. Good call. See that Crean was showing interest end of April.
See that Crean was showing interest end of April.
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Now for sure we know this kid is ESPY winning quality.
Quote from: bamamarquettefan on July 20, 2012, 11:25:03 AM
See that Crean was showing interest end of April.
Damn, too bad. Indiana is the kind of school that a DeMarcus Croaker would crawl over hot coals to get a scholarship offer from.
He'd never see the court at IU.
QUESTION; WHAT THE H--- IS ISAAC CHEW DOING? THOUGHT HE WAS OUR SAVIOR FOR RECRUITING.
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Quote from: Groin_pull on July 21, 2012, 12:32:51 PM
He'd never see the court at IU.
See "The Quotes of Chairman Crean", Chapter 26: Quotes on Dwayne Wade after Tom took the Indiana job.
Quote from: Stone Cold on July 22, 2012, 04:40:00 PM
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Not really getting this without any audio from the gif....
Quote from: Earl Tatum on July 22, 2012, 04:27:18 PM
QUESTION; WHAT THE H--- IS ISAAC CHEW DOING? THOUGHT HE WAS OUR SAVIOR FOR RECRUITING.
What are you talking about?
Quote from: LittleMurs on July 22, 2012, 04:44:14 PM
Not really getting this without any audio from the gif....
"LOUD NOISES!"
n a Florida State basketball class that is expected to be smaller than normal, Demarcus Croaker (Orlando, Fla./Jones) appears headed for at least one of the vacancies.
The 6-foot-3, 180-pound prospect has tried to be in near-constant contact with the Seminoles' coaching staff for the last calendar year. Relationships, specifically with assistant coach Stan Jones, have really blossomed.
"I really like Florida State and I have really liked them for a while," said Croaker, confirming that the Seminoles are his leader. "I have a very good relationship with the coaches and a couple of the players I know. I love the coaches and I love their style of play. They play defense and push the ball up the floor.
"That is definitely a place I could see myself going there."
Playing as a part of a stacked Florida Rams team this summer, Croaker has garnered additional looks and two new offers from Marquette and Texas.
"I don't really think it changes anything," Croaker elaborated on the Marquette tender. "I am going to go look into their school and I want to research everything and learn about the coaches."
Regarding Texas, he said, "I have just been chatting with the coaches about all the players that have come through that program and how they make it to the NBA, which is one of my goals."
After the conclusion of the summer circuit, Croaker intends to take a few trips to check out institutions up close.
And while none of them have been set up just yet, Florida State appears to be a favorite to land one of them -- even though it potentially might not need one.
"I don't have them set up yet, but I plan on taking some, though," said Croaker.
"I think with Florida State, if I wanted to commit, I don't think it would be a place that I would have to go to in order to commit. I know the coaches and that place pretty well already. Besides that, I think I would have to take my visits before I would consider committing."
The three-star recruit mentioned that if he doesn't make a prior to November, he will make his choice during the early signing period.
Another one bites the dust.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on July 25, 2012, 12:40:20 PM
Another one bites the dust.
Larry's fault. Or something.
I want to say Reggie Rankin had the scoop first, but per Twitter Croaker is down to Florida State, Murray State and Texas.
I think MU will survive.
Quote from: The Equalizer on July 25, 2012, 01:30:26 PM
Larry's fault. Or something.
It takes a unique talent to shoot point blank at sarcastic /funny and miss the entire target. Or something.
Quote from: Groin_pull on August 07, 2012, 01:24:33 PM
I think MU will survive.
You obviously didn't see him dunk in warmups of a pickup game.
Croaker committed to Murray State, fwiw.
Good pickup for the Racers.
And hopefully a better driver than one of his future teammates.
Quote from: TedBaxter on July 16, 2012, 05:56:59 PM
Are you really a jagoff or just play one on the internet?
You know, some of you try to be comedians and recruits do read this stuff and your comments don't represent Marquette well at all. Think about it.
If a kid makes a life decision because an anonymous poster with no basketball skills or true knowledge of the game made a negative comment on a silly fan site then I am certain Buzz would be relieved someone that shallow opted not to attend MU.
Quote from: Parsighian on December 02, 2012, 02:28:28 PM
If a kid makes a life decision because an anonymous poster with no basketball skills or true knowledge of the game made a negative comment on a silly fan site then I am certain Buzz would be relieved someone that shallow opted not to attend MU.
Hoopaloop?
Quote from: Pakuni on December 02, 2012, 01:57:34 PM
Croaker committed to Murray State, fwiw.
Good pickup for the Racers.
And hopefully a better driver than one of his future teammates.
I had a feeling that Florida State would be out of it when they got Xavier Rathan-Mayes.
Quote from: esotericmindguy on July 16, 2012, 05:22:53 PM
Umm, half of those highlights show him donning a wife beater. Is that what he sends to coaches? Maybe him and Reggie Smith can join the And1 tour with their cute dunks.
Maybe you and some of your scared, white relatives can take English and Sociology classes. Redneck
Quote from: esotericmindguy on July 16, 2012, 06:26:54 PM
Settle down, if mr. Croaker doesn't come here because of a comment on the scoop, then my guess is Marquette is better off. He might be good, but everyone was all giddy over Reggie smith 2 years ago based on some summer ball mix tape. Just sayin.
This.
Hate to break it to my fellow Scoopers, but we don't have as much influence as we'd like to have.
Quote from: muhoops1 on December 02, 2012, 04:34:18 PM
Maybe you and some of your scared, white relatives can take English and Sociology classes. Redneck
White relatives? Didn't the Italians invent the wife-beater?
Quote from: strotty on July 16, 2012, 09:13:11 PM
I'll go out on a limb and say Buzz did not just watch the YouTube videos and say, "Wow, sweet dunks!" and then offer.
C'mon, fellas.
One would think but how do you explain Bret Roseboro?
Quote from: Stone Cold on July 16, 2012, 09:13:40 PM
Not going to impress too many basketball coaches and knowledgeable fans.
How many coaches make decisions on a highlight film??
Furthermore, the combined basketball skill on fan boards is negligible. Knowledgeable fans? Oxymoron, certainly with regard to critical evaluation of 14-17 year old talent. If you could do that you wouldn't be hunkered down in a cube.
Quote from: TedBaxter on July 16, 2012, 05:56:59 PM
Are you really a jagoff or just play one on the internet?
You know, some of you try to be comedians and recruits do read this stuff and your comments don't represent Marquette well at all. Think about it.
I represent marquette when I post here? I guess my check must have gotten lost in the mail.
I think this kid fits in perfect with Buzz's scheme. He is extremely fast and will work well in our transition offence and just seems to explode when he attacks the rim. Hopefully we can scoop him up
Quote from: weareMU13 on December 03, 2012, 12:01:36 AM
I think this kid fits in perfect with Buzz's scheme. He is extremely fast and will work well in our transition offence and just seems to explode when he attacks the rim. Hopefully we can scoop him up
I thought he signed with Murray?
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Do you people even look at what you're quoting? The only reason for the bump was to announce he committed to Murray State. Stop trying to pick an argument that was over 5 months ago. You're late to the party. Deal with it.
Quote from: brewcity77 on December 03, 2012, 06:37:05 AM
Do you people even look at what you're quoting? The only reason for the bump was to announce he committed to Murray State. Stop trying to pick an argument that was over 5 months ago. You're late to the party. Deal with it.
Nobody noticed the kid was going on about FSU but ended up at Murray State. Remember that a lot of kids list dream schools (Duke, Kentucky, etc) which might not have actually offered.
Quote from: unforgiven on December 03, 2012, 10:29:55 AM
Nobody noticed the kid was going on about FSU but ended up at Murray State. Remember that a lot of kids list dream schools (Duke, Kentucky, etc) which might not have actually offered.
Uhh...huh? I'm just saying trying to pick an argument over a post made half a year ago is stupid. He picked MSU, good luck, now let the thread fall back to oblivion.
Quote from: Pakuni on December 02, 2012, 01:57:34 PM
Croaker committed to Murray State, fwiw.
Good pickup for the Racers.
And hopefully a better driver than one of his future teammates.
Croaker decommitted. Looks like Texas is the favorite now, but who knows?
http://future150.com/hs/basketball-news/demarcus-croaker-de-commits-names-new-leader-2484