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Title: [GoMarquette.com] Jerry Wainwright Named Director Of Basketball Operations At MU
Post by: GoMarquetteSays on June 18, 2012, 04:45:08 PM
Jerry Wainwright Named Director Of Basketball Operations At MU
         


Collegiate coaching veteran Jerry Wainwright has joined the Marquette University men's basketball program as director of operations, head coach Buzz Williams announced Monday afternoon.
     

http://onlyfans.cstv.com/schools/marq/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/061812aaa.html
         
Title: Re: [GoMarquette.com] Jerry Wainwright Named Director Of Basketball Operations At MU
Post by: MUfan12 on June 18, 2012, 04:46:38 PM
Another solid, experienced coach on the bench can never hurt. Great hire.
Title: Re: [GoMarquette.com] Jerry Wainwright Named Director Of Basketball Operations At MU
Post by: Chili on June 18, 2012, 04:49:20 PM
Quote from: MUfan12 on June 18, 2012, 04:46:38 PM
Another solid, experienced coach on the bench can never hurt. Great hire.

Jerry could coach - just not recruit worth a damn....as Dir of BB Ops he doesn't have to do any recruiting...good pick up.
Title: Re: [GoMarquette.com] Jerry Wainwright Named Director Of Basketball Operations At MU
Post by: Canned Goods n Ammo on June 18, 2012, 04:50:59 PM
You mess with the bull, you get the horns.

Title: Re: [GoMarquette.com] Jerry Wainwright Named Director Of Basketball Operations At MU
Post by: Blue Horseshoe on June 18, 2012, 04:52:15 PM
So what exactly are the responsibilities of Director of Basketball Operations?
Title: Re: [GoMarquette.com] Jerry Wainwright Named Director Of Basketball Operations At MU
Post by: Bocephys on June 18, 2012, 04:53:04 PM
Nice hire!  More experience on the bench is never a bad thing.
Title: Re: [GoMarquette.com] Jerry Wainwright Named Director Of Basketball Operations At MU
Post by: Golden Avalanche on June 18, 2012, 05:22:41 PM
Holy crap. Wouldn't have thought this for the hire at DOBO. DePaul fans will have fun on this one.
Title: Re: [GoMarquette.com] Jerry Wainwright Named Director Of Basketball Operations At MU
Post by: 4everwarriors on June 18, 2012, 05:25:00 PM
Is this the beginning of Hiroshima?
Title: Re: [GoMarquette.com] Jerry Wainwright Named Director Of Basketball Operations At MU
Post by: nyg on June 18, 2012, 05:38:38 PM
Quote from: The Golden Avalanche on June 18, 2012, 05:22:41 PM
Holy crap. Wouldn't have thought this for the hire at DOBO. DePaul fans will have fun on this one.

http://thesportshernia.typepad.com/blog/2009/02/introducing-coach-jerry-wainwright-former-star-of-turner-hooch.html

Yes they will..........
Title: Re: [GoMarquette.com] Jerry Wainwright Named Director Of Basketball Operations At MU
Post by: TallTitan34 on June 18, 2012, 05:48:27 PM
Seems like yesterday I was holding this big head up at the DePaul game...
(http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj229/marquettetitan34/IMG_0087.jpg)
Title: Re: [GoMarquette.com] Jerry Wainwright Named Director Of Basketball Operations At MU
Post by: mr.MUskie on June 18, 2012, 05:59:05 PM
Well, at least we're covered if/when Buzz leaves.
Title: Re: [GoMarquette.com] Jerry Wainwright Named Director Of Basketball Operations At MU
Post by: Desert_warrior on June 18, 2012, 06:07:09 PM
So the plan is not to make us like ND, but like DePaul?
Title: Re: [GoMarquette.com] Jerry Wainwright Named Director Of Basketball Operations At MU
Post by: MU82 on June 18, 2012, 07:22:09 PM
Quote from: Blue Horseshoe on June 18, 2012, 04:52:15 PM
So what exactly are the responsibilities of Director of Basketball Operations?

At most schools, this job goes to a young former player in his early stages of coaching. It usually involves breaking down film, setting up film exchanges, some travel planning, lots of go-fer activities, etc.

Very strange to hire an older former head coach, but he needed a job and Buzz no doubt likes him. So welcome to MU, Droopy Dog!
Title: Re: [GoMarquette.com] Jerry Wainwright Named Director Of Basketball Operations At MU
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on June 18, 2012, 07:26:51 PM
So Scoop sources at In 'n Out are actually accurate?  What ya know?  ;)

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on March 26, 2012, 08:36:59 PM
btw, out here in the Central Valley and heard the guy in front of me at the In & Out drive through order the "Jerry Wainwright to MU Special"
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=31777.msg379473#msg379473

Great addition for Buzz. Very experienced head coach, knows Chicago via Dixie Versace and even ties back to Al, actually not a bad recruiter but DU couldn't keep the kids in class or in school. Has cancer and this puts him closer to his home and off the road. Was an Al admirer.
Title: Re: [GoMarquette.com] Jerry Wainwright Named Director Of Basketball Operations At MU
Post by: Marqevans on June 18, 2012, 07:40:33 PM
Quote from: mr.MUskie on June 18, 2012, 05:59:05 PM
Well, at least we're covered if/when Buzz leaves.

Oh boy!  Don't think he can do the shuffle or the 2 step.
Title: Re: [GoMarquette.com] Jerry Wainwright Named Director Of Basketball Operations At MU
Post by: TedBaxter on June 18, 2012, 07:42:38 PM
Quote from: MU82 on June 18, 2012, 07:22:09 PM
At most schools, this job goes to a young former player in his early stages of coaching. It usually involves breaking down film, setting up film exchanges, some travel planning, lots of go-fer activities, etc.

Very strange to hire an older former head coach, but he needed a job and Buzz no doubt likes him. So welcome to MU, Droopy Dog!

Although a bit younger, Bart Lundy was a very good hire coming off a job loss.  Like this one as well.
Title: Re: [GoMarquette.com] Jerry Wainwright Named Director Of Basketball Operations At MU
Post by: jsglow on June 18, 2012, 07:43:32 PM
Solid basketball veteran.  Was he still head coach at DePaul that horrible night when they beat us down there a couple of years back?  Anyway, happy to have Jerry as part of the staff.  It's a great way to finish a long career.
Title: Re: [GoMarquette.com] Jerry Wainwright Named Director Of Basketball Operations At MU
Post by: Dawson Rental on June 18, 2012, 07:50:34 PM
Quote from: MU82 on June 18, 2012, 07:22:09 PM
At most schools, this job goes to a young former player in his early stages of coaching. It usually involves breaking down film, setting up film exchanges, some travel planning, lots of go-fer activities, etc.

Very strange to hire an older former head coach, but he needed a job and Buzz no doubt likes him. So welcome to MU, Droopy Dog!

Jerry Wainwright breaking down film is a real luxury.  Buzz should be getting great help on learning how to attack other teams defensively.
Title: Re: [GoMarquette.com] Jerry Wainwright Named Director Of Basketball Operations At MU
Post by: chapman on June 18, 2012, 08:29:46 PM
As Director of Basketball Ops this is a solid hire.  Impressed with how well Buzz has re-tooled his staff after the departures.

Quote from: jsglow on June 18, 2012, 07:43:32 PM
Solid basketball veteran.  Was he still head coach at DePaul that horrible night when they beat us down there a couple of years back?  

He'd already been fired.  An interim coach beat us.  It was that pathetic.

Title: Re: [GoMarquette.com] Jerry Wainwright Named Director Of Basketball Operations At MU
Post by: hdog1017 on June 18, 2012, 08:59:35 PM
I feel that Jerry can direct the operations of basketball quite nicely. 
Title: Re: [GoMarquette.com] Jerry Wainwright Named Director Of Basketball Operations At MU
Post by: Lennys Tap on June 18, 2012, 09:05:39 PM
To get that much knowledge and experience for Head of Basketball Ops is remarkable. Buzz also hired a video co-ordinator, a young man who was his student assistant at New Orleans. Guess all the sons of the coaches at the top AAU programs in the country were taken.
Title: Re: [GoMarquette.com] Jerry Wainwright Named Director Of Basketball Operations At MU
Post by: wildbillsb on June 18, 2012, 09:28:51 PM


Very strange to hire an older former head coach, but he needed a job and Buzz no doubt likes him. So welcome to MU, Droopy Dog!


Pretty harsh, 82!
Title: Re: [GoMarquette.com] Jerry Wainwright Named Director Of Basketball Operations At MU
Post by: MU82 on June 18, 2012, 10:08:31 PM
Quote from: wildbillsb on June 18, 2012, 09:28:51 PM

Very strange to hire an older former head coach, but he needed a job and Buzz no doubt likes him. So welcome to MU, Droopy Dog!


Pretty harsh, 82!

Don't see how that was harsh.

Wainwright DOES look like Droopy Dog from the old cartoons!

I actually met him (Wainwright, not Droopy) on several occasions and he seemed like a real good guy.
Title: Re: [GoMarquette.com] Jerry Wainwright Named Director Of Basketball Operations At MU
Post by: warriorchick on June 18, 2012, 10:42:40 PM
One could say that Wainwright is already responsible quite a few Marquette victories.  ;D
Title: Re: [GoMarquette.com] Jerry Wainwright Named Director Of Basketball Operations At MU
Post by: GGGG on June 19, 2012, 07:24:14 AM
Good thing the DOBO doesn't recruit, because that is one thing he couldn't do. 
Title: Re: [GoMarquette.com] Jerry Wainwright Named Director Of Basketball Operations At MU
Post by: Marqevans on June 19, 2012, 08:10:31 AM
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on June 19, 2012, 07:24:14 AM
Good thing the DOBO doesn't recruit, because that is one thing he couldn't do. 

I have to believe recruiting for Marquette is far easier than recruiting for DePaul.  Better facilities, better stadium, and you can move away from home, yet only be 90 miles away from Chicago.  Not to mention being a more successful program this century.
Title: Re: [GoMarquette.com] Jerry Wainwright Named Director Of Basketball Operations At MU
Post by: GGGG on June 19, 2012, 08:35:32 AM
Quote from: Marqevans on June 19, 2012, 08:10:31 AM
I have to believe recruiting for Marquette is far easier than recruiting for DePaul.  Better facilities, better stadium, and you can move away from home, yet only be 90 miles away from Chicago.  Not to mention being a more successful program this century.


No doubt.  But the guy still couldn't recruit.
Title: Re: [GoMarquette.com] Jerry Wainwright Named Director Of Basketball Operations At MU
Post by: TallTitan34 on June 19, 2012, 09:03:28 AM
In this old scoop thread, everyone had nothing but good things to say about him.  And that's when he was still at DePaul!

http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=17165.0 (http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=17165.0)
Title: Re: [GoMarquette.com] Jerry Wainwright Named Director Of Basketball Operations At MU
Post by: Golden Avalanche on June 19, 2012, 09:18:22 AM
Quote from: Marqevans on June 19, 2012, 08:10:31 AM
I have to believe recruiting for Marquette is far easier than recruiting for DePaul.  Better facilities, better stadium, and you can move away from home, yet only be 90 miles away from Chicago.  Not to mention being a more successful program this century.

Yeah, but remember a lot of MU fans ripped Crean for his recruiting because he could only attract top talent when the playing time was available and not when spots were limited. Wainwright had an ocean of playing time with that awful program and couldn't get it to even a respectable level of competition.

Recruiting is not his strong suit.
Title: Re: [GoMarquette.com] Jerry Wainwright Named Director Of Basketball Operations At MU
Post by: Hoopaloop on June 19, 2012, 09:56:15 AM
Quote from: TallTitan34 on June 19, 2012, 09:03:28 AM
In this old scoop thread, everyone had nothing but good things to say about him.  And that's when he was still at DePaul!

http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=17165.0 (http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=17165.0)

There are also old Scoop threads in which people here destroyed the guy not only as a bad recruiter but a terrible coach.  Quite a turnaround now that he is on the staff from some of those same posters.   :o

Two examples on the extremes:


Dr. Blackheart thought he was a good recruiter and good coach, so he should be thrilled by the hire. 

http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=29354.msg339447#msg339447


Ners thinks he is a terrible coach, he must be disappointed with the hire. 

http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=20522.msg214977#msg214977

Title: Re: [GoMarquette.com] Jerry Wainwright Named Director Of Basketball Operations At MU
Post by: 🏀 on June 19, 2012, 10:37:59 AM
Quote from: Hoopaloop on June 19, 2012, 09:56:15 AM
There are also old Scoop threads in which people here destroyed the guy not only as a bad recruiter but a terrible coach.  Quite a turnaround now that he is on the staff from some of those same posters.   :o

Two examples on the extremes:


Dr. Blackheart thought he was a good recruiter and good coach, so he should be thrilled by the hire. 

http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=29354.msg339447#msg339447


Ners thinks he is a terrible coach, he must be disappointed with the hire. 

http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=20522.msg214977#msg214977



Wonder if it took you 20 seconds to find those quotes like you did in the Ners reference.

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on May 24, 2010, 05:16:01 PM
Why do you put words in my mouth?  Did I ever say playing at higher levels HINDERS you?  Of course not.  What I DID SAY was that just because one hasn't played at those levels doesn't disqualify them to be successful coaches.  This is why you keep losing me and others with your argument.

Does being a great CEO require you have a MBA?  No.   Does being a great NBA coach require you be a former player?  No.  Is it nice to have?  Sure.  Is it a guarantee of success?  HELL NO.

That is the rub.  Just because you coached at a clinic and played ball doesn't mean you have the market cornered on analysis.  That is all we've been saying.  You want to make it a zero sum argument, which it clearly isn't.

I'm just worried after all your ranting how good Buzz is going to be, considering he didn't play in the NBA or in college.  Should we be worried that Buzz won't have what it takes?



And no, I don't think the 2003-04 team underachieved considering what they lost.  You do, I don't.  Much stronger conference that year, loss of Wade, loss of Jackson, Merritt coming off shoulder surgery and playing a different position, Diener playing hurt, target on our back all year.....ALL OF THOSE THINGS together did not surprise me that we were a NIT team that year.  


Finally, on your comments about other coaches.  Despite your denial that you've never said a coach was terrible, etc, you have indeed made such comments: 


"they were coached by JERRY WAINWRIGHT who was a TERRRIBLE coach"  January 21, 2010

That took me about 20 seconds to find.  Should I continue?  Of course you've said it about other coaches from time to time as well.  It's ok, in fact in this case you are right.  He did not do a good job at DePaul.  Just don't deny that you have used that terminology in the past because you clearly have.




Awfully knowledgeable about that thread even though you weren't posting back then.
Title: Re: [GoMarquette.com] Jerry Wainwright Named Director Of Basketball Operations At MU
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on June 19, 2012, 10:54:49 AM
Quote from: PTM on June 19, 2012, 10:37:59 AM
Wonder if it took you 20 seconds to find those quotes like you did in the Ners reference.

Awfully knowledgeable about that thread even though you weren't posting back then.

Laughable that the charade continues
Title: Re: [GoMarquette.com] Jerry Wainwright Named Director Of Basketball Operations At MU
Post by: Henry Sugar on June 19, 2012, 11:42:52 AM
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Title: Re: [GoMarquette.com] Jerry Wainwright Named Director Of Basketball Operations At MU
Post by: augoman on June 19, 2012, 02:41:52 PM
great defensive coach, decent recruiter considering DePaul's programs limitations, friend of MU, Buzz and fan of Al.  Sorry to hear he is not well-hope it doesn't distract him-glad he is closer to home..., Great hire!
Title: Re: [GoMarquette.com] Jerry Wainwright Named Director Of Basketball Operations At MU
Post by: Blackhat on June 19, 2012, 03:01:54 PM
Quote from: augoman on June 19, 2012, 02:41:52 PM
great defensive coach,

based on anecdotal evidence or numbers?


Hard to judge him based on the train wreck that is DePaul basketball.   
Title: Re: [GoMarquette.com] Jerry Wainwright Named Director Of Basketball Operations At MU
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on June 19, 2012, 03:15:49 PM
So I said the essentially same thing then and now.  What is your point about turnaround and extremes when you quoted me?

Quote from: Hoopaloop on June 19, 2012, 09:56:15 AM
There are also old Scoop threads in which people here destroyed the guy not only as a bad recruiter but a terrible coach.  Quite a turnaround now that he is on the staff from some of those same posters.   :o
Two examples on the extremes:

Dr. Blackheart thought he was a good recruiter and good coach, so he should be thrilled by the hire. 

http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=29354.msg339447#msg339447

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on December 27, 2011, 03:30:08 PM
DePaul is better than they have been in years, so it should be a good game. btw, Wainwright is an assistant at Fresno State. Also has prostrate cancer. He is a very good guy, and loved Al. Actually was a very good recruiter and game coach, but the classroom part killed his teams.

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on June 18, 2012, 07:26:51 PM
So Scoop sources at In 'n Out are actually accurate?  What ya know?  ;)

Great addition for Buzz. Very experienced head coach, knows Chicago via Dixie Versace and even ties back to Al, actually not a bad recruiter but DU couldn't keep the kids in class or in school. Has cancer and this puts him closer to his home and off the road. Was an Al admirer.
Title: Re: [GoMarquette.com] Jerry Wainwright Named Director Of Basketball Operations At MU
Post by: augoman on June 19, 2012, 04:56:01 PM
Quote from: Stone Cold on June 19, 2012, 03:01:54 PM
based on anecdotal evidence or numbers?

Well, I was judging him based on the numbers-both his Richmond and Wilmington teams were nationally ranked defensively, and were top ten a few times.
Please provide the anecdotes to which you refer.


Hard to judge him based on the train wreck that is DePaul basketball.   
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