Anyone confirm?
Good enough for me.
Gary Parrish @GaryParrishCBS
A source told CBS Sports that Memphis coach Josh Pastner will hire Marquette assistant Aki Collins to complete his staff.
Oh no...that's awful news. Goodbye, DFS.
Unfortunate and a little peculiar. Wonder if Buzz was looking to hire over him and not give him the top assistant billing after Benford left? Any word on candidates to fill these open spots?
Dfs?
Can we go after Jerrence again?
Father Pilarz and Larry Williams strike again. SLU here we come
This is really a blow, if only because it indicates we're still a step below Memphis in the pecking order. I was hoping Aki would go to a HC job, not a lateral move. Now we need 2 top-level assistants. Hope Buzz has his guys lined up, I don't think he can afford to wait long with only 1 assistant.
Quote from: brewcity77 on May 27, 2012, 12:42:23 PM
This is really a blow, if only because it indicates we're still a step below Memphis in the pecking order. I was hoping Aki would go to a HC job, not a lateral move. Now we need 2 top-level assistants. Hope Buzz has his guys lined up, I don't think he can afford to wait long with only 1 assistant.
Not if Buzz wasn't ready to give him the head assistant position or associate head coach label. Have to wonder if Ferguson is a casualty of this? I don't think DG would go anywhere. Anyone else he recruited?
Wasn't Aki lead on Mayo, or was that Monarch?
For those that doubted my comments the other day, this is the first shoe to drop. Why would Aki leave for another assistant job? He was a major component to a staff that just came off of two Sweet 16's, and we have some great recruits in the mix. You better start getting vocal, or the basketball landscape will change dramatically in the next year!
Quote from: MU B2002 on May 27, 2012, 12:29:38 PM
Can we go after Jerrence again?
He's already on staff at SMU. They agreed to terms right after Larry Brown was announced, but there was no immediate press release so Howard could continue recruiting with no restrictions.
Clearly he's concerned about recruiting with our new impossible academic standards, so he decided to go where he knows there are none.
He was also the lead on Jamail Jones.
If Buzz offered the Associate spot, I wonder if he could lure away Dwayne Stephens from Michigan State. Doubt he'd stay more than 3-4 years before landing a HC gig, but he's a stud recruiter and excellent big man coach. And if Buzz did end up leaving in the next few years, I'm not sure there are many better "in-waiting" types in the country.
Quote from: brewcity77 on May 27, 2012, 12:42:23 PM
This is really a blow, if only because it indicates we're still a step below Memphis in the pecking order. I was hoping Aki would go to a HC job, not a lateral move. Now we need 2 top-level assistants. Hope Buzz has his guys lined up, I don't think he can afford to wait long with only 1 assistant.
Why? It all depends if he had an opportunity to jump up or not at MU. Assistants leave places like UCLA, Duke, UNC, IU, KU, UK to other programs because they are promoted.
Quote from: TedBaxter on May 27, 2012, 01:45:14 PM
He was also the lead on Jamail Jones.
He was also the lead on Roseboro
Not even Friday
Quote from: dw3dw3dw3 on May 27, 2012, 01:04:46 PM
Not if Buzz wasn't ready to give him the head assistant position or associate head coach label. Have to wonder if Ferguson is a casualty of this? I don't think DG would go anywhere. Anyone else he recruited?
Ferguson is already signed so I doubt it. This isn't a situation like when Layer left and Aaron Bowen hadn't yet signed his NLI.
Thought Pastner was Buzz' friend? Maybe this is how he looks out for those of endearment before Chernobyl.
Or maybe Collins and Buzz simply weren't getting along...
I mean, he did look at Louisville last year and that was before all that Hiroshima crap. Let's not assume that this has anything to do with that.
Wish he were staying and do not like timing of it. Would have thought this would happen in April and not this late.
Good luck to him regardless. He'll be a head coach soon anyway. One great recruiter out there is Doug Wojik (just left Tulsa).
this is one of the dumbest threads in a long list of dumb threads from this summer. Goodman stated AKI was getting the top assts job at Memphis. this indicates nothing but 2 things. 1. hoop12 has great sources? ::) and 2. that Aki was not getting elavated to the top asts job
Not a big deal assts move all the time. if your assts are moving up it usually means ur program is winning and doing things the right way and other schools want your people.
Funny thing is the crean apologists said the same thing when crean lost all three assisatnts in numerous years, for lower level or lateral jobs, but now it means the rats are fleeing the ship?
Why is a thread on losing an asst coach a dumb thread? Seems to be newsworthy and does not seem to be a ton of panic over the news. Once again you feel the need to jump down people's throats when you do not like what is posted. I agree with Topper and believe most on here want to hear news, good or bad.
Should be interesting to see what parts of the country these new assistants are known to recruit well in.
Quote from: war1980rior on May 27, 2012, 04:03:55 PM
Good luck to him regardless. He'll be a head coach soon anyway. One great recruiter out there is Doug Wojik (just left Tulsa).
Wojcik is the new head coach at College of Charleston.
Collins to Memphis?
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/154859025.html
I never know what to expect this year when I log on. Hopefully Buzz finds the right kind of guys to work with
the roster we have and some of the recruits like JF prolly expected Aki to be here this summer. Buzz has his
work cut out for him this summer bringing 2 new coaches up to speed and what is shaping up to be a tough
schedule
Quote from: Goose on May 27, 2012, 03:35:21 PM
Wish he were staying and do not like timing of it. Would have thought this would happen in April and not this late.
Maybe the reason Buzz was holding off on hiring Tony Benford's replacement was because he knew something was up with Aki and he was waiting to see if he moved on before hiring anyone.
Quote from: MU B2002 on May 27, 2012, 12:29:38 PM
Can we go after Jerrence again?
Again? When did MU go after him?
Quote from: LittleMurs on May 27, 2012, 06:03:26 PM
Maybe the reason Buzz was holding off on hiring Tony Benford's replacement was because he knew something was up with Aki and he was waiting to see if he moved on before hiring anyone.
What's that got to do with anything? Tony's replacement will not change regardless of whether Aki is here or not.
Quote from: MUBasketball on May 27, 2012, 06:07:26 PM
What's that got to do with anything? Tony's replacement will not change regardless of whether Aki is here or not.
Oh, so you think that there is no point when assembling a staff in trying to get a balance of skill levels and different geographic area where each staff member has familiarity and recruiting contacts?
I suppose Buzz could just go ahead with top two assistants who both are best working with guards and recruiting the Southeast and that will work out just fine?
Quote from: MUBasketball on May 27, 2012, 06:07:26 PM
What's that got to do with anything? Tony's replacement will not change regardless of whether Aki is here or not.
Not accurate at all. If Buzz was waiting to see if Aki was going to accept a role as associate, then he would be looking to fill his lowest-level assistant role (Aki 1, Monarch 2). If Aki leaves, Buzz is looking for a top guy (doubting Monarch gets associate). Looking for a right-hand man and looking for a lower-profile guy to groom is two different things.
First, THANK YOU, Aki, for being a great recruiter and assistant coach at Marquette. I wish you the best of luck at Memphis.
Second, I hope Buzz has some good hires in order. Losing Tony was huge but was expected at some point. Isn't think we'd lose Aki this early, especially with no successor to Benford named.
Third, I hope this doesn't signify waves of change to the culture, recruiting, and mission. I support Buzz, but I hope the school realizes this program means so much to the Marquette community - past, present, and future.
Quote from: brewcity77 on May 27, 2012, 06:44:22 PM
Not accurate at all. If Buzz was waiting to see if Aki was going to accept a role as associate, then he would be looking to fill his lowest-level assistant role (Aki 1, Monarch 2). If Aki leaves, Buzz is looking for a top guy (doubting Monarch gets associate). Looking for a right-hand man and looking for a lower-profile guy to groom is two different things.
Correct, my comment was based on the assumption that Aki wouldn't have been promoted to Associate so it really had no bearing on who Buzz replaced Benford with.
Losing a lot this offseason. Buzz has a big task replacing Benford, Aki, and Lundy.
I am not sure this is official yet... Twitter is saying "could"be gone
Apparently Memphis Roar spoke to him and he gave some quotes. Its behind a login and I don't want to go through the effort...sounds though like a done deal.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on May 27, 2012, 09:10:25 PM
Apparently Memphis Roar spoke to him and he gave some quotes. Its behind a login and I don't want to go through the effort...sounds though like a done deal.
I saw the quotes. Its a done deal. Said he will get there Wednesday and "hit the ground running".
He said he interviewed there and was looking at pictures on the wall at their hoops facility and asked how many were at Memphis Midnight Madness. Pastner said 17,000+, and Aki said then he realized they were a big-time program.
Said this is another resume builder & he'll get to learn under a different coach and system.
Can any ESPN insiders shed light on this article. Could have some possible candidates.
http://m.espn.go.com/ncb/rumors?
Quote from: MUBasketball on May 27, 2012, 10:07:51 PM
I saw the quotes. Its a done deal. Said he will get there Wednesday and "hit the ground running".
He said he interviewed there and was looking at pictures on the wall at their hoops facility and asked how many were at Memphis Midnight Madness. Pastner said 17,000+, and Aki said then he realized they were a big-time program.
Said this is another resume builder & he'll get to learn under a different coach and system.
Those are the kind of quotes that add to what Brew was saying earlier regarding us being a step below Memphis still. Still, as long as we hang onto Buzz I'm completely confident in the direction our program is heading.
Assistant coaches come and go all the time. Buzz is the main man, loss Buzz right now and it would be a problem. Go find an assistant coach who can bring in the last recruit for 2013. This happens all the time. I am sure there is an AAU coach who wants to move up, hopefully he has a top 10 kid in his back pocket. Jabari Parkers father??
The ESPN insider article mentioned Ron Coleman who is at Nebraska now and also spent time at Colorado state. The article said he has extensive Chicago connections and was the coach of the mac irvin fire from 2005-2011.
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When Tony Benford accepted the North Texas head coach position, the move made sense for the long-time Marquette assistant. Benford had been considered for a handful of head coaching positions in the past two years, and there was a sense Benford was on the cusp of moving from Milwaukee. Benford quickly added Marquette DBO Bart Lundy to his staff, leaving Buzz Williams with only Aki Collins and Scott Monarch on his staff -- a perilous prospect for any head coach in the middle of the offseason.
However, per Jason Smith of the Memphis Commercial-Appeal, Collins will become an assistant for Memphis. As Dan Wolken notes, when a program is as successful as the Golden Eagles have been in the recent past, assistant turnover happens. We have to wonder, though, who Williams will hire for his two vacant assistant positions (as well as Marquette's director of basketball ops spot)? Benford was known for his recruiting prowess in the Southwest, and was also highly-regarded for his ability to scour the junior college ranks, so perhaps Williams will look to hire a JC head coach (or a current DI assistant with lengthy JC experience).
Smith writes that Collins has east coast ties, and we wonder if some of the names that dotted Xavier's assistant coach search might soon appear in contention for a MU job. XU needed someone comfortable recruiting up and down the coast, including the DMV region, and without Collins, Marquette may search for someone with a similar resume.
In recent years, Marquette has frequently been linked to Chicago prospects. Reggie Smith once played at the Al McGuire Center, and Steve Taylor will suit up for MU next season. There is also a chance Williams may covet an assistant who is familiar with the Chicago-area and Illinois. If that is the case, does a name like Paris Parham (formerly of Illinois State) or Ronald Coleman enter the situation? Coleman presents a compelling case; an assistant at Colorado State, Coleman is now the director of player development at Nebraska, and he has extensive ties to Chicago.
- Matt Giles
We are done. Finished. Kaput. Why even bother fielding a program?
This is tragic. You thought 9/11 was tragic? THIS is tragic.
My sources say all recruits now will de-commit and sign on at Memphis and North Texas.
Catastrophe. You thought the Japan tsunami was a catastrophe? Please.
How bad is that? Pretty soon, we'll only be able to beat DePaul by 10, that's how bad.
This really puts the "oy" in Ring out Ahoya.
I'm ashamed to be a Marquette grad. I remember when I graduated in 1982, I said: "I'll be a loyal alumnus, donate regularly and support everything having to do with Marquette unless we lose Aki Collins in 20 years.
Done. It was good while it lasted, though.
I assume it wasn't a Math major in 1982. ;)
Turn the clocks back to Benford's hiring...
Buzz: Aki, would you like a promotion?
Aki: Actually, I'd like your job.
Buzz: Well, you're going to be waiting a very long time.
Aki: Well then maybe I'll find a job someplace that is going to need a new head coach soon... [whispered] or maybe I'll start a bunch of rumors about athletic standards and discipline and force your hind end out of here.
Of course, if there is one iota of truth to the above, I'm definitely paraphrasing.
Interesting to see how this affects Jameel McKay's decision, since it appears that Aki was the contact person for him.
We are finished- not only do we have the upcoming Hiroshima (timing now unpredictable), we also have the forthcoming "other shoe to drop"
Surprised Buzz isn't checking into openings in the WIAC just to get out of this mess....
Quote from: MU82 on May 27, 2012, 11:30:02 PM
We are done. Finished. Kaput. Why even bother fielding a program?
This is tragic. You thought 9/11 was tragic? THIS is tragic.
My sources say all recruits now will de-commit and sign on at Memphis and North Texas.
Catastrophe. You thought the Japan tsunami was a catastrophe? Please.
How bad is that? Pretty soon, we'll only be able to beat DePaul by 10, that's how bad.
This really puts the "oy" in Ring out Ahoya.
I'm ashamed to be a Marquette grad. I remember when I graduated in 1982, I said: "I'll be a loyal alumnus, donate regularly and support everything having to do with Marquette unless we lose Aki Collins in 20 years.
Done. It was good while it lasted, though.
I wish Aki the best. My instincts (no inside sources) tell me that Buzz has a plan for Associate Head Coach and that it didn't include Collins. So when a guy figures that out, he seeks alternatives.
Quote from: MU82 on May 27, 2012, 11:30:02 PM
We are done. Finished. Kaput. Why even bother fielding a program?
This is tragic. You thought 9/11 was tragic? THIS is tragic.
My sources say all recruits now will de-commit and sign on at Memphis and North Texas.
Catastrophe. You thought the Japan tsunami was a catastrophe? Please.
How bad is that? Pretty soon, we'll only be able to beat DePaul by 10, that's how bad.
This really puts the "oy" in Ring out Ahoya.
I'm ashamed to be a Marquette grad. I remember when I graduated in 1982, I said: "I'll be a loyal alumnus, donate regularly and support everything having to do with Marquette unless we lose Aki Collins in 20 years.
Done. It was good while it lasted, though.
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Quote from: madtownwarrior on May 28, 2012, 10:30:58 AM
We are finished- not only do we have the upcoming Hiroshima (timing now unpredictable), we also have the forthcoming "other shoe to drop"
Surprised Buzz isn't checking into openings in the WIAC just to get out of this mess....
By this point, the posts such as these that deride those who predicted Hiroshima are 100 times worse than those who predicted it in the first place. I count one post of the former in this thread, and about a half dozen of the latter.
Honestly, I have no idea why you would even write a post like that above. You have made this same point in multiple threads. One of the mods even smacked you down for it. You should probably learn from this experience.
Whoopie. Show me the last great Aki Collins recruit aside from Todd Mayo.
Totally replaceable.
LIKE ANY ASSISTANT COACH.
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on May 28, 2012, 12:46:07 PM
Whoopie. Show me the last great Aki Collins recruit aside from Todd Mayo.
Totally replaceable.
LIKE ANY ASSISTANT COACH.
Davante...
Madtown
You are a frickin idiot!!!!!
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on May 28, 2012, 12:46:07 PM
Totally replaceable.
LIKE ANY ASSISTANT COACH.
Best post in this thread.
Can someone give mea quick couple sentence description of heroshima? I could prob guess but...
Thanks Goose - glad I made your day...
You firing up that email campaign to save MU basketball again to stop the other shoe from dropping?
Shoes dropping seems more appropriate name for a MU basketball catastrophe than Hiroshma at least....
Quote from: Goose on May 28, 2012, 01:17:53 PM
Madtown
You are a frickin idiot!!!!!
Quote from: Goose on May 27, 2012, 04:21:52 PM
Why is a thread on losing an asst coach a dumb thread? Seems to be newsworthy and does not seem to be a ton of panic over the news. Once again you feel the need to jump down people's throats when you do not like what is posted. I agree with Topper and believe most on here want to hear news, good or bad.
Goose the thread is not stupid but the comments that day Buzz losing assts is bad or is an indication of something bigger surely are
Quote from: Slim on May 27, 2012, 11:46:17 PM
I assume it wasn't a Math major in 1982. ;)
Darn that new math! I get the number of years I've been married wrong, too.
Quote from: Goose on May 27, 2012, 03:35:21 PM
Wish he were staying and do not like timing of it. Would have thought this would happen in April and not this late.
You must have been downright furious when Rick Majerus left us in June of '86. Talk about not liking the timing of things. >:(
Quote from: Hoopaloop on May 28, 2012, 06:28:01 PM
You must have been downright furious when Rick Majerus left us in June of '86. Talk about not liking the timing of things. >:(
If he was, he was one of the few.
Yeah, the only way the Majerus departure was bad was because of who they hired to replace him.
Quote from: chren21 on May 28, 2012, 01:40:34 PM
Can someone give mea quick couple sentence description of heroshima? I could prob guess but...
Best to pm F*ckin'. He's got it down pat.
The students were mad when Majerus left over the summer. Felt we were close, if we had beat UNC, things would have gone differently. Definitely a vibe when everyone came back for 86-87 that the sweater vests had driven him out. The student section booed the alumni section a lot the next year.
The students were wrong. Nowhere near close.
Quote from: brandx on May 28, 2012, 01:21:01 PM
Best post in this thread.
Maybe so, but Aki will be missed.
Quote from: Goose on May 27, 2012, 03:35:21 PM
Wish he were staying and do not like timing of it. Would have thought this would happen in April and not this late.
Who said it didn't happen in April?
Quote from: madtownwarrior on May 28, 2012, 10:30:58 AM
We are finished- not only do we have the upcoming Hiroshima (timing now unpredictable), we also have the forthcoming "other shoe to drop"
Surprised Buzz isn't checking into openings in the WIAC just to get out of this mess....
Dude, Point and or Eau Claire will spare no expense. Donors on the phone now offering Buzz his own deer stand and an RV for travel.
Don't forget a chance to meet Bo. Isn't that what every WIAC coach wants?
Quote from: brewcity77 on May 27, 2012, 01:49:52 PM
If Buzz offered the Associate spot, I wonder if he could lure away Dwayne Stephens from Michigan State. Doubt he'd stay more than 3-4 years before landing a HC gig, but he's a stud recruiter and excellent big man coach. And if Buzz did end up leaving in the next few years, I'm not sure there are many better "in-waiting" types in the country.
Did some research on this guy and yea he is the real deal. That is the exact type of coach I would want as our Associate. 9 years behind Izzo, multiple final fours, and National Championship. Would be great to lure him away.
Quote from: Benny B on May 28, 2012, 09:28:41 PM
Who said it didn't happen in April?
It wasn't done in April, but this certainly did not pop up out of nowhere. Couple of weeks in the making.
Quote from: THEultimateWARRIOR on May 29, 2012, 01:56:55 AM
Did some research on this guy and yea he is the real deal. That is the exact type of coach I would want as are Associate. 9 years behind Izzo, multiple final fours, and National Championship. Would be great to lure him away.
I always felt he was a loss when he left Crean's staff after the Final 4 run. It would have been nice to have kept that staff together.
Quote from: strotty on May 29, 2012, 02:10:27 AM
It wasn't done in April, but this certainly did not pop up out of nowhere. Couple of weeks in the making.
Strotty, does this look to you like a case of Aki seeing he wasn't getting the top asst. job at MU so he got out, or more like all of the rats jumping off of a sinking ship before the captain leaves?
Quote from: BrewCity BallCrusher on May 29, 2012, 09:04:13 AM
Strotty, does this look to you like a case of Aki seeing he wasn't getting the top asst. job at MU so he got out, or more like all of the rats jumping off of a sinking ship before the captain leaves?
The captain isn't going anywhere. period.
After back to back sweet 16s assistant coaches look for promotions. These guys all deserve the promotions they get.
How many guys get into the coaching business looking to be a career assistant coach? I'm guessing the answer is about zero.
Perhaps there is another person in line for Benford's spot, or there was some friction between Buzz and Aki. But I keep getting the feeling that this is not a good sign.
I just have a hard time believing that Buzz would let his highest level assistant leave for another assistant gig, at a school that will be joining the conference. Unless Buzz doesn't plan on being here when Memphis joins.
Quote from: MUfan12 on May 29, 2012, 09:35:51 AM
Perhaps there is another person in line for Benford's spot, or there was some friction between Buzz and Aki. But I keep getting the feeling that this is not a good sign.
I just have a hard time believing that Buzz would let his highest level assistant leave for another assistant gig, at a school that will be joining the conference. Unless Buzz doesn't plan on being here when Memphis joins.
This doesn't make sense to me: if Buzz is planning to leave, and he *really* thought a lot of Aki, wouldn't he say: "Coach, just stick with me for one more year, and we'll leave for greener pastures together"?
I don't know how much of a push Buzz made to keep Coach Aki, but it seems a heck of a lot more likely that Buzz had other plans for the top assistant's spot.
I would think Buzz would protect talent regardless of staying log term or leaving after next year. Trust that he has better option in his opinion to replace missing spots. I wonder if they just did not get along or if Buzz wanted something better.
Quote from: Goose on May 29, 2012, 09:48:00 AM
I would think Buzz would protect talent regardless of staying log term or leaving after next year. Trust that he has better option in his opinion to replace missing spots. I wonder if they just did not get along or if Buzz wanted something better.
+1
I agree that this is a disappointing loss, but if Buzz had someone else in mind for the #1 spot, it's really not surprising that Aki would leave. He already entertained other offers, is probably pretty close to a HC job, and if he wasn't going to get the #1 spot here, it might have actually hurt his resume as prospective employers might wonder why he didn't move up when Benford left. While this seems like a lateral move, he can at least justify it based on money, climate, or simply broadening his horizons as he prepares for a top job. It will all depend on who Buzz lands at the #1. If it's someone that seems like a bonafide up-and-comer, that will make it pretty evident that Aki needed to move on to further his career.
Quote from: MUfan12 on May 29, 2012, 09:35:51 AM
Perhaps there is another person in line for Benford's spot, or there was some friction between Buzz and Aki. But I keep getting the feeling that this is not a good sign.
Aki almost left last year. I don't think I would read too much into this.
Quote from: BrewCity BallCrusher on May 29, 2012, 09:04:13 AM
Strotty, does this look to you like a case of Aki seeing he wasn't getting the top asst. job at MU so he got out, or more like all of the rats jumping off of a sinking ship before the captain leaves?
I am not positive on the reasoning behind it, but as others have said, Aki almost left for Louisville last year. Personally, I have never believed the "sinking ship" theory, so I really doubt it's that. Very well could have been Aki looking for a change of scenery. I don't believe it had anything to do with a promotion, or lack thereof, to the top assistant position. And without trying to stir the pot, relationships may have been a factor. How big a deal that was, I'm not sure.
Quote from: chren21 on May 28, 2012, 01:40:34 PM
Can someone give mea quick couple sentence description of heroshima? I could prob guess but...
An attempt to answer always leads to a thread hijack, so.....
I'd suggest that you the MUScoop search feature to see one of the three or so other times that this question has been answered.
Quote from: strotty on May 29, 2012, 11:00:42 AM
I am not positive on the reasoning behind it, but as others have said, Aki almost left for Louisville last year. Personally, I have never believed the "sinking ship" theory, so I really doubt it's that. Very well could have been Aki looking for a change of scenery. I don't believe it had anything to do with a promotion, or lack thereof, to the top assistant position. And without trying to stir the pot, relationships may have been a factor. How big a deal that was, I'm not sure.
OK, thanks for the response. I don't think the ship is sinking either, but you have better sources than most on here so I wanted to know your take on this.
Quote from: strotty on May 29, 2012, 11:00:42 AM
I am not positive on the reasoning behind it, but as others have said, Aki almost left for Louisville last year. Personally, I have never believed the "sinking ship" theory, so I really doubt it's that. Very well could have been Aki looking for a change of scenery. I don't believe it had anything to do with a promotion, or lack thereof, to the top assistant position. And without trying to stir the pot, relationships may have been a factor. How big a deal that was, I'm not sure.
Man, can't Buzz get along with anyone?
Maybe Pastner is looking to leave soon and is taking in Aki to groom him as a replacement?
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on May 29, 2012, 11:45:05 AM
Maybe Pastner is looking to leave soon and is taking in Aki to groom him as a replacement?
If the NCAA ever investigates the Tarik Black recruitment, this might come to fruition.
Quote from: MUfan12 on May 29, 2012, 11:58:15 AM
If the NCAA ever investigates the Tarik Black recruitment, this might come to fruition.
Josh Pastner is an honorable man. He is the anti-Calipari. Whereas the program was ALL about John Calipari when he coached at Memphis, it has been all about the players and assistant coaches since Josh has been here. In no way shape or form do you have any proof that Josh Pastner's assistants have engaged in shady recruiting practices.
Quote from: chapman on May 27, 2012, 01:40:54 PM
Clearly he's concerned about recruiting with our new impossible academic standards, so he decided to go where he knows there are none.
You do realize that Memphis was one of the schools who just posted a perfect APR score right? Our student athletes are expected to take their studies seriously.
We'll be a valuable academic asset to the Big East come next season.
Quote from: EarthBoundMisfit on July 11, 2012, 03:34:31 AM
Josh Pastner is an honorable man. He is the anti-Calipari. Whereas the program was ALL about John Calipari when he coached at Memphis, it has been all about the players and assistant coaches since Josh has been here. In no way shape or form do you have any proof that Josh Pastner's assistants have engaged in shady recruiting practices.
Mmm...sorta.
If it is any consolation, Josh has gotten asst coaches who are just a cut under head coaching material. Several of his assistant coaches have already gone on to head coaching jobs, and Josh is only in his fourth season of coaching.
Aki may be here a season or two before moving on. Memphis is a big city, and it may be in this kind of market that Aki can prove himself to be cut out to be a head coach soon.
Quote from: EarthBoundMisfit on July 11, 2012, 03:34:31 AM
Josh Pastner is an honorable man. He is the anti-Calipari. Whereas the program was ALL about John Calipari when he coached at Memphis, it has been all about the players and assistant coaches since Josh has been here. In no way shape or form do you have any proof that Josh Pastner's assistants have engaged in shady recruiting practices.
LOL! Hilarious.
I just hope he doesn't get shot in Memphis.
Quote from: EarthBoundMisfit on July 11, 2012, 03:37:00 AM
You do realize that Memphis was one of the schools who just posted a perfect APR score right? Our student athletes are expected to take their studies seriously.
We'll be a valuable academic asset to the Big East come next season.
Congratulations on your renaissance, and I'm happy to hear it. But YOU dio realize that your school over the course of 25 years had one of the worst graduation rates for basketball players in the country?
Quote from: EarthBoundMisfit on July 11, 2012, 03:59:20 AM
If it is any consolation, Josh has gotten asst coaches who are just a cut under head coaching material. Several of his assistant coaches have already gone on to head coaching jobs, and Josh is only in his fourth season of coaching.
Aki may be here a season or two before moving on. Memphis is a big city, and it may be in this kind of market that Aki can prove himself to be cut out to be a head coach soon.
Uh....what exactly does Memphis have that Milwaukee and Marquette doesn't?
And I think MU fans are perfectly content with Chew as a replacement for Collins anyway.
Quote from: EarthBoundMisfit on July 11, 2012, 03:37:00 AM
You do realize that Memphis was one of the schools who just posted a perfect APR score right? Our student athletes are expected to take their studies seriously.
We'll be a valuable academic asset to the Big East come next season.
Just want to make sure they can read above a 2nd grade level.
http://chronicle.com/article/The-Education-of-Dasmine/132065/
Quote from: reinko on July 11, 2012, 08:19:53 AM
Just want to make sure they can read above a 2nd grade level.
http://chronicle.com/article/The-Education-of-Dasmine/132065/
Gwen: What were you doing up there?
Van Wilder: As smashed as I am, I'm pretty sure that was my room...
Van Wilder: [looking back]
Van Wilder: Wasn't it?
Gwen: What was that girl, a freshman?
Van Wilder: She reads at a sophomore level.
Quote from: EarthBoundMisfit on July 11, 2012, 03:34:31 AM
Blah blah meaningless trolling crap blah blah
WTF is wrong with you? Why come to another team's site, dredge up a freaking 6-week-old thread, and start trolling? Not only that, but clearly you don't know a damn thing about this site, or you'd comprehend the meaning of teal (and no, I don't expect you to be around long enough to make it worth explaining). Get back to us when you're actually a Big East team...until then, stop wasting our time by Hooping old threads.
Can someone PM me the Tarik Black recruiting details? Hadn't heard that one before.
Quote from: reinko on July 11, 2012, 08:19:53 AM
Just want to make sure they can read above a 2nd grade level.
http://chronicle.com/article/The-Education-of-Dasmine/132065/
How does one make a joke about Memphis' academics without being disrespectful to the "semi-literate" individual it admitted?
Oh yeah....
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"I was like, 'Holy crud, I can't believe how many kids are reading below a seventh-grade level,'" he says. For Mr. Luckey, the question is how many of those students to let in. "What we've all got to decide," he says, "is what's our breaking point?"
Let me help you out, Mr. Luckey... the answer is ZERO.
Quote from: EarthBoundMisfit on July 11, 2012, 03:34:31 AM
Josh Pastner is an honorable man. He is the anti-Calipari. Whereas the program was ALL about John Calipari when he coached at Memphis, it has been all about the players and assistant coaches since Josh has been here. In no way shape or form do you have any proof that Josh Pastner's assistants have engaged in shady recruiting practices.
The "all-about=me" Calipari almost won the NCAA title for y'all.
No D-Rose, No Cal = No Pastner and no stronger bball progra,
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on July 11, 2012, 08:19:48 AM
Uh....what exactly does Memphis have that Milwaukee and Marquette doesn't?
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Quote from: brewcity77 on July 11, 2012, 09:20:41 AM
WTF is wrong with you? Why come to another team's site, dredge up a freaking 6-week-old thread, and start trolling? Not only that, but clearly you don't know a damn thing about this site, or you'd comprehend the meaning of teal (and no, I don't expect you to be around long enough to make it worth explaining). Get back to us when you're actually a Big East team...until then, stop wasting our time by Hooping old threads.
Have I said ANYTHING hateful towards Marquette basketball? Nope....didn't think so. So you can come off your highhorse...i am not trolling.
I am defending my school, just like you would be....if I had said something insulting or disparaging towards your school...which I won't do, cuz I have a ton of respect for Marquette.
Quote from: Jamailman on July 11, 2012, 09:25:07 AM
Can someone PM me the Tarik Black recruiting details? Hadn't heard that one before.
me too. Seriously....if there is some hanky panky going on...I'd like to know about it.
Quote from: Benny B on July 11, 2012, 09:25:51 AM
How does one make a joke about Memphis' academics without being disrespectful to the "semi-literate" individual it admitted?
Oh yeah....
Let me help you out, Mr. Luckey... the answer is ZERO.
the same kind of people who would make a joke about Robert Wild I imagine....
Quote from: EarthBoundMisfit on July 11, 2012, 10:30:31 AMI am defending my school, just like you would be...
No, I wouldn't, because I wouldn't feel the need to join another school's site to drag up six-week dead arguments. Do you really have nothing better to do with your free time than search back in the databases to find out what we were saying in May?
Quote from: EarthBoundMisfit on July 11, 2012, 10:30:31 AM
Have I said ANYTHING hateful towards Marquette basketball? Nope....didn't think so. So you can come off your highhorse...i am not trolling.
I am defending my school, just like you would be....if I had said something insulting or disparaging towards your school...which I won't do, cuz I have a ton of respect for Marquette.
Ok, so how'd you find this thread, anyways? Especially as it has been dead for 6 weeks. I'm sure we'd be less... questioning... if we understood.
Quote from: EarthBoundMisfit on July 11, 2012, 10:35:22 AM
the same kind of people who would make a joke about Robert Wild I imagine....
Because he's still MU's president, right?
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on July 11, 2012, 09:31:12 AM
The "all-about=me" Calipari almost won the NCAA title for y'all.
No D-Rose, No Cal = No Pastner and no stronger bball progra,
No Cal = no NCAA probation, no vacated Final Four, no vacated 38 wins, no vacated National runner-up appearance
Memphis is a basketball school. Who is to say they couldn't have found another coach to lift us out of the doldrums? That person might not have had the success of Calipari....but heck it took the NBA to decide that they would make players have one year of college under their belts, before he had any type of major success at all.
Pastner has gotten more 5* recruits in his first three years at Memphis, then Calipari did his entire time there.
I like Memphis and I think this thread is stupid. Some of you need more work to do.
Quote from: CaptainAwesome on July 11, 2012, 10:37:35 AM
Ok, so how'd you find this thread, anyways? Especially as it has been dead for 6 weeks. I'm sure we'd be less... questioning... if we understood.
Because he's still MU's president, right?
I'm from the Memphis fan site www.memphistigers.org.
This website was mentioned about the time of Aki's hiring. http://csnbbs.com/showthread.php?tid=572060
I had been out of touch with them somewhat for a couple of weeks(not able to post near as much as normal)....as I am a computer technician...with my nose on the grindstone.
I'm not a 'hater', I'm not here to try and cause trouble. I have a great deal of respect for Marquette. Along with Louisville, Marquette is one of the schools I missed playing after yall left when the Big East expanded all those years ago. You guys were consistently good...and you're a lot easier to get up for playing....than say Tulane, East Carolina, Rice, or Marshall.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on July 11, 2012, 08:19:48 AM
Uh....what exactly does Memphis have that Milwaukee and Marquette doesn't?
And I think MU fans are perfectly content with Chew as a replacement for Collins anyway.
BBQ mostly...but seriously, I think its the fact that Memphis is a major metropolitan city...and it is also a hotbed for basketball talent.
I think Aki only coaches here for 2 years before becoming a head coach somewhere. He seems to be a special guy. I've read articles in your newspapers...where MU players were shocked and disappointed by his moving on.
Quote from: ecompt on July 11, 2012, 08:16:32 AM
Congratulations on your renaissance, and I'm happy to hear it. But YOU dio realize that your school over the course of 25 years had one of the worst graduation rates for basketball players in the country?
Our athletic department hasn't always been guided by the swiftest tools in the shed. From Charles Cavagnaro to RC Johnson...prime examples of what I mean. RC was more interested in raising money....and letting Calipari run the athletic department )damn near all money raised in those years went towards basketball). Football was allowed to suffer...and we couldn't cash in on our best football seasons under Tommy West.
I am really optimistic with the hiring of new AD Tom Bowens, and the newfound devotion of our boosters to the football side of the Memphis athletic budget.
The coaches we have in place now are mostly young, aggressive folks who play by the rules, and place a value on an education. Since Pastner has become the coach, more and more basketball players are graduating than under Cal.
Quote from: EarthBoundMisfit on July 11, 2012, 10:46:53 AM
BBQ mostly...but seriously, I think its the fact that Memphis is a major metropolitan city...and it is also a hotbed for basketball talent.
You do realize that Milwaukee metro is larger than Memphis metro right?
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on July 11, 2012, 10:51:22 AM
You do realize that Milwaukee metro is larger than Memphis metro right?
according to Wikipedia....in 2010 the city of Milwaukee had a population of 594,833. Memphis had a population of 662,897.
Now if you're counting adjacent counties...yeah you've you got us beat 2.1 million to 1.3 million.
Like Milwaukee, Memphis has a NBA arena. Its a rabid sports town in the heart of SEC country. Like Milwaukee...Memphis has more than its share of crime.
When it comes to sports history....you folks have it all over us. Y'all have the Packers, the Brewers, the Bucks, and of course your Golden Eagles.
Memphis hasn't won a major title in anything yet...so we have to envy guys like you from afar.
You can easily find Marquette connections to Josh's violations. Like when Josh blatantly committed a violation in the recruitment of former MU player T Mbakwe.
And once called on it, Memphis was forced to quickly report it to the NCAA and get the spin machine working. Tsk, tsk.
Odd of Chicos to abandon his typical naming conventions for this go around.
Quote from: Jay Bee on July 11, 2012, 11:14:18 AM
You can easily find Marquette connections to Josh's violations. Like when Josh blatantly committed a violation in the recruitment of former MU player T Mbakwe.
And once called on it, Memphis was forced to quickly report it to the NCAA and get the spin machine working. Tsk, tsk.
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http://memphisroar.com/2010/07/pastner-watches-mbakwe-best-buy-summer-classic-update/
"As seen in the full listing, July 13th was in a period of permissible attendance dates. Pastner showed up last night in full Memphis gear. He did not sneak in a back door. He was not hiding. With the level of scrutiny that the University of Memphis has faced over the past two years, it makes no sense for Pastner to blatantly violate a rule. Just like I have, Pastner certainly did his homework and found his attendance was within the rules of the NCAA."
you were saying?
EarthBound Misfit= Kenosha Warrior and his troll on losing scrimmages.
Quote from: EarthBoundMisfit on July 11, 2012, 11:24:31 AM
http://memphisroar.com/2010/07/pastner-watches-mbakwe-best-buy-summer-classic-update/
"As seen in the full listing, July 13th was in a period of permissible attendance dates. Pastner showed up last night in full Memphis gear. He did not sneak in a back door. He was not hiding. With the level of scrutiny that the University of Memphis has faced over the past two years, it makes no sense for Pastner to blatantly violate a rule. Just like I have, Pastner certainly did his homework and found his attendance was within the rules of the NCAA."
you were saying?
Dig a little deeper, bud.
Yep, the memphis roar people thought it was within the rules. But they were dead wrong. Pastner pretended like he just didn't understand the rules. He did. Get real.
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/mensbasketball/cusa/2010-07-22-memphis-basketball-violation_N.htm (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/mensbasketball/cusa/2010-07-22-memphis-basketball-violation_N.htm)
QuoteMemphis has self-reported a secondary NCAA violation over coach Josh Pastner's attendance at a summer league game last week where Minnesota forward Trevor Mbakwe was playing.
Quote from: Stone Cold on July 11, 2012, 11:31:36 AM
EarthBound Misfit= Kenosha Warrior and his troll on losing scrimmages.
I do not know to whom you are referring.
I am a regular poster at www.memphistigers.org. Drop by and say hello. I am sure our fans will be a lot more welcoming than yours have been.
My name is Glenn Condrey....I'm a Memphis fan living in Western Kentucky (I have grandkids here) I'm 43, I'm a computer technician for Computers4Kids here in Madisonville,KY.
Quote from: EarthBoundMisfit on July 11, 2012, 11:24:31 AM
http://memphisroar.com/2010/07/pastner-watches-mbakwe-best-buy-summer-classic-update/
"As seen in the full listing, July 13th was in a period of permissible attendance dates. Pastner showed up last night in full Memphis gear. He did not sneak in a back door. He was not hiding. With the level of scrutiny that the University of Memphis has faced over the past two years, it makes no sense for Pastner to blatantly violate a rule. Just like I have, Pastner certainly did his homework and found his attendance was within the rules of the NCAA."
you were saying?
Well, there you have it. Pastner is squeaky clean. Debate over. Thanks for stopping by Misfit. The rest of us will get back to talking about our own rumors.