Per twitter via MarquetteHoops.
2013 #mubb target Duane Wilson RT @_IGotTheJuice1: Next week I will be making a decision on what college ima commit too. #IGotTheJuice
Well since he would cause quite a distraction for what scholarship he is taking while the team is preparing for Mizzou, I don't expect it to be MU unfortunately. Tough player, would have loved him at MU for 4 years.
Anybody got any other leaders? Per Scout his offer list is - Iowa, MU, Memphis, Mizzou, Virginia Tech.
I just saw on google that Wilson mentioned in an article that Burton was going to join Playground Elite for this year, not sure that means much, but at least they have a relationship.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Duane-Wilson-106188
Here's the Rivals writeup
Quote from: dw3dw3dw3 on March 14, 2012, 07:46:58 AM
Per twitter via MarquetteHoops.
2013 #mubb target Duane Wilson RT @_IGotTheJuice1: Next week I will be making a decision on what college ima commit too. #IGotTheJuice
Well since he would cause quite a distraction for what scholarship he is taking while the team is preparing for Mizzou, I don't expect it to be MU unfortunately. Tough player, would have loved him at MU for 4 years.
I don't think you would necessarily have to jump to that conclusion. But I am not sure how solid our offer was at this point anyway.
The kid is a solid guard, but without room for 2013 and Buzz having higher priorities, it just wasn't going to happen. I'm disappointed solely for the fact that he could have helped us land Stone.
It's Marquette or Memphis
I disagree, AWegrzyn17. We have no higher priority than a point guard for the next scholarship; if he wants to commit, we'll make room for him.
I'd rather hold out for Kendrick Nunn...
Quote from: Lighthouse 84 on March 14, 2012, 09:15:53 AM
I'd rather hold out for Kendrick Nunn...
I don't think Nunn is coming (purely speculative), he got offered by Texas and Kansas (i think). Hard to say no to that to begin with, and he seems like a kid who loves the bright lights and attention that a Kansas or Texas could bring. Mizzou, Memphis, AZ are also in the mix for him. MU being the closest and Buzz's ties with Simeon/Taylor are our advantages, but I don't see that winning out in this case. Just my opinion though which is basically worthless.
Why would any of you automatically assume that MU is not in the running? Let's see - he's made a recent unofficial visit to MU, has attended numerous games, his cousin is Jamil Wilson, he's good friends with Deonte Burton, and he plays a position of need (point guard) - it's between MU, Memphis, and Missouri - I have absolutely no idea where he ends up but would frankly be surprised if it is not Marquette - as far as available scholarships, it will work itself out. And it will work itself out for Nunn as well....
I just don't think the timing makes any sense from a MU perspective. If Duane decided he wanted to come to MU I assume he makes that known to Buzz before the public and I'm guessing they would ask him to keep it under wraps at least until the tournament is over. The last thing Buzz needs is guys looking over their shoulder in the locker room wondering if their sneakers have been Fed Exed to Southern Miss. I guess the team could know of some circumstance where a current player or incoming recruit won't be here in 2013, but I would imagine otherwise that would be a pretty ominous cloud over the team and a distraction for a promising tourney.
Quote from: Boone on March 14, 2012, 09:13:54 AM
I disagree, AWegrzyn17. We have no higher priority than a point guard for the next scholarship; if he wants to commit, we'll make room for him.
I agree that our highest priority is a true point guard (although given Durley's question marks and Otule's injury history that is somewhat questionable). I just don't see us running guys out of town for him. He looks like a solid high school PG, but I don't think he is the type of elite guy that you "make room for." This isn't a guy who is 6'7 and a freak athlete like Jamil. While it is a guard's game, there are only so many 6'7+ guys walking around and you have to grab them when you can (even if it means "making room" on your roster). With PGs I think the name of the game is a little different.
Quote from: AWegrzyn17 on March 14, 2012, 10:27:43 AM
I just don't think the timing makes any sense from a MU perspective. If Duane decided he wanted to come to MU I assume he makes that known to Buzz before the public and I'm guessing they would ask him to keep it under wraps at least until the tournament is over. The last thing Buzz needs is guys looking over their shoulder in the locker room wondering if their sneakers have been Fed Exed to Southern Miss. I guess the team could know of some circumstance where a current player or incoming recruit won't be here in 2013, but I would imagine otherwise that would be a pretty ominous cloud over the team and a distraction for a promising tourney.
I agree that our highest priority is a true point guard (although given Durley's question marks and Otule's injury history that is somewhat questionable). I just don't see us running guys out of town for him. He looks like a solid high school PG, but I don't think he is the type of elite guy that you "make room for." This isn't a guy who is 6'7 and a freak athlete like Jamil. While it is a guard's game, there are only so many 6'7+ guys walking around and you have to grab them when you can (even if it means "making room" on your roster). With PGs I think the name of the game is a little different.
Right now, the name of the PG game for when Junior leaves is Derrick Wilson. Is MU comfortable with him as the PG?
He's a 2013 prospect. Don't see what the distraction would be - the guys can't be that naive to believe there won't be at least two players among the current team and 2012 signed recruits who aren't here for the 2013 season.
And we will be lucky to see Mayo NEXT year. If we get to see that, then we certainly won't for 2013. Don't forget, he's 21 right now. No way he sticks around for 2 more years. That clears up 1 spot...
Quote from: nyg on March 14, 2012, 10:32:03 AM
Right now, the name of the PG game for when Junior leaves is Derrick Wilson. Is MU comfortable with him as the PG?
Ya, I bet that TJ Taylor kid sucks. And Wilson will probably be incompetent two years from now even though he's been solid as a frosh. And Todd Mayo can't run the point at all.
I'm more comfortable with that situation than I am with getting a reputation for not keeping your word to kids. I don't think that goes well with Buzz's whole "We're gonna take care of your son and develop him as a man" mantra in the living room.
Quote from: AWegrzyn17 on March 14, 2012, 10:52:16 AM
Ya, I bet that TJ Taylor kid sucks. And Wilson will probably be incompetent two years from now even though he's been solid as a frosh. And Todd Mayo can't run the point at all.
Despite all of your sarcasm, you still only listed one true point guard. I'm not comfortable with that.
I think Duane is the type of point guard you can build around. His athleticism is going to be way above average for a point. Not DJ level, but still very high (way higher than JC at the same point in their careers).
Agree timing doesn't make sense though for a commit in the middle of NCAA unless the team was out of it. According to this (http://verbalcommits.com/schools/152) Memphis has 4 scholarships open for 2013 and are recruiting a bunch of point guards for that class.
Memphis announcing it is joining the Big East (1-3 return trips to Chicago/Milwaukee/SouthBend every year), and his past quote of wanting to get away, make it seem like they would be a front runner.
If we were to accept a commitment from Wilson or anyone else in the next few days, I highly doubt it would be a distraction to the team (if a player on the current roster is transferring to make room, then it's probably common knowledge in their inner circle). Now, if the vacancy comes from putting off Durley for another year or more, then that's another story (see Newbill's recruitment), but that still wouldn't distract the current team whatsoever.
The problem with the OP's theory is that all three of the schools mentioned are in the NCAA Tournament. The kid probably is mentioning next week as announcement time as he will be done with his season as the state tournament starts tomorrow.
I think it is dangerous to throw around phrases like MU not keeping their word. That is quite an accussation without ANY facts to support.
Now, here is a suppossition. Let's assume CO does not get the 6th year approved by the NCAA. What does MU do at that time? Far too late to get someone, especially as talented as Wilson.
OR, let's assume that CO does receive his 6th year from the NCAA. I would guess he would already have graduated. So, who is to say he does not use the transfer rule and play at a school closer to Houston?
I am not suggesting either of these are in play. They are, though, possibilities. Other possibilities - someone does not make it to MU due to grades or change of heart. Someone transfers out. Someone blows up and decides to go pro early.
Buzz may or may not know any of these right now. He still, though, needs to continue to recruit. A verbal commitment is as binding as if I gave one.
Before we throw MU under the bus, if DW commits here, let's at least wait for the facts to surface.
Quote from: Boone on March 14, 2012, 11:10:33 AM
If we were to accept a commitment from Wilson or anyone else in the next few days, I highly doubt it would be a distraction to the team (if a player on the current roster is transferring to make room, then it's probably common knowledge in their inner circle). Now, if the vacancy comes from putting off Durley for another year or more, then that's another story (see Newbill's recruitment), but that still wouldn't distract the current team whatsoever.
I agree that if there is an announcement that Duane is coming to MU, then it probably means that that the guys already knew someone was planning on leaving or that there was an issue with one of the incoming recruits. But in trying to predict what Wilson is likely to do without that information available to us, its safer to assume the guys don't already know that.
And if right before your busiest time of the year at work a new guy came in and said that he was set to take a position of a nameless employee that wouldn't cause a bit of a stir?
So many possibilities before 2013 recruits hit campus, one of which not being mentioned is Jamil Wilson going pro after next year. I think he busts out in a prominent role next year and makes the leap. If you're Buzz why wouldn't you recruit with contingencies like that (and many many others already mentioned here) in mind? The sinister outcome is not nearly the most likely with a commitment from the 2013 class.
Quote from: MUMac on March 14, 2012, 11:46:29 AM
I think it is dangerous to throw around phrases like MU not keeping their word. That is quite an accussation without ANY facts to support.
Now, here is a suppossition. Let's assume CO does not get the 6th year approved by the NCAA. What does MU do at that time? Far too late to get someone, especially as talented as Wilson.
OR, let's assume that CO does receive his 6th year from the NCAA. I would guess he would already have graduated. So, who is to say he does not use the transfer rule and play at a school closer to Houston?
I am not suggesting either of these are in play. They are, though, possibilities. Other possibilities - someone does not make it to MU due to grades or change of heart. Someone transfers out. Someone blows up and decides to go pro early.
Buzz may or may not know any of these right now. He still, though, needs to continue to recruit. A verbal commitment is as binding as if I gave one.
Before we throw MU under the bus, if DW commits here, let's at least wait for the facts to surface.
MUMac, I think you are missing my point. I'm not saying that MU has done anything at all wrong at this point. Buzz certainly should still be recruiting for the class of 2013. Certainly players leave all the time and Buzz needs to be prepared for changes that are difficult to predict (see Maymon's transfer). But being prepared for the unexpected is different than overrecruiting for a class over a year and a half in advance. I don't think it makes sense for Buzz to be accepting commitments when he has been public about expecting Otule to receive his sixth year approval (and thus that he has a full class for 2013). Its not going to be too late if we find out next fall or even this time next spring that we have an open scholarship because of a player's decision to transfer or Otule not getting a redshirt. We have had success with commitments from seniors and JuCos in the past.
What I am trying to do is make a prediction about what Duane's decision will be. If he is announcing at this time, I don't think Buzz and the staff would look favorably upon that given our current scholarship situation, thus if he says he is announcing then that leaves me to believe it is for some place else. That is all I am saying; Buzz is likely to wait for the season to end or for enough information to be had for the guys to be clear that they aren't going to be asked to leave town.
Quote from: AWegrzyn17 on March 14, 2012, 11:57:05 AM
MUMac, I think you are missing my point. I'm not saying that MU has done anything at all wrong at this point. Buzz certainly should still be recruiting for the class of 2013. Certainly players leave all the time and Buzz needs to be prepared for changes that are difficult to predict (see Maymon's transfer). But being prepared for the unexpected is different than overrecruiting for a class over a year and a half in advance. I don't think it makes sense for Buzz to be accepting commitments when he has been public about expecting Otule to receive his sixth year approval (and thus that he has a full class for 2013). Its not going to be too late if we find out next fall or even this time next spring that we have an open scholarship because of a player's decision to transfer or Otule not getting a redshirt. We have had success with commitments from seniors and JuCos in the past.
What I am trying to do is make a prediction about what Duane's decision will be. If he is announcing at this time, I don't think Buzz and the staff would look favorably upon that given our current scholarship situation, thus if he says he is announcing then that leaves me to believe it is for some place else. That is all I am saying; Buzz is likely to wait for the season to end or for enough information to be had for the guys to be clear that they aren't going to be asked to leave town.
I think you are missing my point. Again, you continue with assumptions that may or may not be valid. Buzz knows, you and I do not.
Again, to be more clear. Great if Wilson commits, that is probably the explanation: Buzz has info that he has passed on to the team that we don't have. But ex ante, when predicting what Wilson will do without insider information, the fact that he is announcing now makes it more likely that he is announcing elsewhere.
The only distraction would be on this board and this board is always distracted about something.
Just don't see a potential commitment causing a stir to the team. If a teammate's unhappy and planning on leaving, it's not news to them.
Quote from: Boone on March 14, 2012, 12:10:49 PM
Just don't see a potential commitment causing a stir to the team. If a teammate's unhappy and planning on leaving, it's not news to them.
But this assumes that the reason for a player leaving would be that he is unhappy. That isn't always the case and players know that. Therefore, the problem is not what the response would be if the players know someone is leaving; obviously the new commitment wouldn't be a big deal. The issue is the scenario where Buzz hasn't told the player anything we don't know, and they don't already know that a player is unhappy and going to leave. They can do basic math.
Again, I'm not saying that this is the situation. But the fact that we don't know the situation and this problem exists, it makes it less likely that Buzz would accept a commitment at this time, and thus less likely that Duane's upcoming commitment is to Marquette.
Quote from: AWegrzyn17 on March 14, 2012, 12:28:05 PM
But this assumes that the reason for a player leaving would be that he is unhappy. That isn't always the case and players know that. Therefore, the problem is not what the response would be if the players know someone is leaving; obviously the new commitment wouldn't be a big deal. The issue is the scenario where Buzz hasn't told the player anything we don't know, and they don't already know that a player is unhappy and going to leave. They can do basic math.
Right. This isn't Syracuse.
I think we get Wilson.
I want Wilson. Like drbeauch says it will work out. Hopefully Nunn will come also. Quickness. Personally I also want Nolan, if he still has MU in mind. Buzz will train him if his academics are there.
Quote from: bilsu on March 14, 2012, 12:05:01 PM
The only distraction would be on this board and this board is always distracted about something.
Squirrel
I'll take Wilson or Nunn. I'm so glad Junior Cadougan will be a Senior next year. I'm looking forward to Fall 2013.
Something that I have not heard mention is Otule not wanting to stick around for a 6th year. I'm not sure how everyone else felt, but after 5 years at Marquette (I did the Engineering Co-Op program) I was ready to leave and move on to the next chapter in my life. I couldn't imagine sticking around for a 6th year. All your close friends are gone and you're stuck with all the new people you probably don't have the same type of relationship with.
In my opinion this is a non-issue.
Look at the Scout offer list of Iowa, MU, Memphis, Mizzou, Virginia Tech. All of them are in some form of Post Season play and could be playing at the same time as MU. Mizzou could be preparing for MU when he announces for them. Wouldn't that be a distraction to them? Wouldn't any of the coaches tell him to hold off if this was a problem?
What have we typically seen with the majority of the transfers? They aren't getting playing time so who would be playing in the tournament that would be affected by this and truly impacted. Everyone points to Derrick Wilson, but he is getting PT. If Buzz knew he was going to transfer wouldn't he be sitting on the pine? By the time that Duane Wilson gets to MU, Derrick Wilson would be a Junior and he would be in the same position as Junior was when Derrick committed. Did Junior transfer? How many freshman PGs are impact starters right away? He will probably back up Derrick for a couple of years just like he is going to with Junior.
Also the players probably already know who is going to transfer and also the likelihood of a player committment so this shouldn't be a distraction. With the amount of time that these players spend together don't you think they would have mentioned that plan to transfer or that coach has asked them to do that.
Quote from: bilsu on March 14, 2012, 12:05:01 PM
The only distraction would be on this board and this board is always distracted about something.
I'm not sure what this post is about. What does it have to do....hey look! A pony!
Here is his "official" 2013 mix-tape by Midwest Ballers...
http://midwestballers.com/?p=1165#.T2DkkHwLgHc.twitter
Would be a great get and I think he would lock up the pg position very soon into his tenure.
Hey Lighthouse 84-------HEGARTYS, GOOLSBYS AND THEN O'DONOHUES
Quote from: speri on March 14, 2012, 01:41:23 PM
Something that I have not heard mention is Otule not wanting to stick around for a 6th year. I'm not sure how everyone else felt, but after 5 years at Marquette (I did the Engineering Co-Op program) I was ready to leave and move on to the next chapter in my life. I couldn't imagine sticking around for a 6th year. All your close friends are gone and you're stuck with all the new people you probably don't have the same type of relationship with.
Not a comparable situation in the least. Otule will be here a sixth season if healthy. I am quite confident that Buzz and him talked that out before he even agreed to surgery.
Quote from: Boone on March 14, 2012, 12:10:49 PM
Just don't see a potential commitment causing a stir to the team. If a teammate's unhappy and planning on leaving, it's not news to them.
The only thing that could distract is a 2012 commitment. A 2013 commitment is 18 months away from being on campus. A lot can happen between now and then.
Quote from: MUMac on March 14, 2012, 11:46:29 AM
I think it is dangerous to throw around phrases like MU not keeping their word. That is quite an accussation without ANY facts to support.
Now, here is a suppossition. Let's assume CO does not get the 6th year approved by the NCAA. What does MU do at that time? Far too late to get someone, especially as talented as Wilson.
OR, let's assume that CO does receive his 6th year from the NCAA. I would guess he would already have graduated. So, who is to say he does not use the transfer rule and play at a school closer to Houston?
Just an FYI...it isn't the NCAA that decides upon his eligibility for a sixth year...it is the Big East Conference.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on March 14, 2012, 04:03:53 PM
Just an FYI...it isn't the NCAA that decides upon his eligibility for a sixth year...it is the Big East Conference.
Second,
Correct, my error in haste.
Quote from: BallBoy on March 14, 2012, 01:46:59 PM
In my opinion this is a non-issue.
Look at the Scout offer list of Iowa, MU, Memphis, Mizzou, Virginia Tech. All of them are in some form of Post Season play and could be playing at the same time as MU. Mizzou could be preparing for MU when he announces for them. Wouldn't that be a distraction to them? Wouldn't any of the coaches tell him to hold off if this was a problem?
What have we typically seen with the majority of the transfers? They aren't getting playing time so who would be playing in the tournament that would be affected by this and truly impacted. Everyone points to Derrick Wilson, but he is getting PT. If Buzz knew he was going to transfer wouldn't he be sitting on the pine? By the time that Duane Wilson gets to MU, Derrick Wilson would be a Junior and he would be in the same position as Junior was when Derrick committed. Did Junior transfer? How many freshman PGs are impact starters right away? He will probably back up Derrick for a couple of years just like he is going to with Junior.
Also the players probably already know who is going to transfer and also the likelihood of a player committment so this shouldn't be a distraction. With the amount of time that these players spend together don't you think they would have mentioned that plan to transfer or that coach has asked them to do that.
If those other schools do not have an open 2013 scholarship to offer then yes it would be a distraction to them. I'm too lazy to research it, but my guess is many of those schools listed have an open 2013 scholarship, so that would not be a distraction for the team and the players on the team. It would add even more excitement to their week.
And why would Buzz sit somebody if they're planning on transferring? You think Buzz would take that decision personally and decide to risk losing games because somebody decided that they wanted to move on in a year? I doubt it. Unless Buzz was forcing the guy out due to character issues, Buzz would not sit a guy this season because he plans on transferring after the season.
Cmon...it isn't going to be a distraction. Duane wouldn't be on campus for 18 months. A lot can happen between now and then...a transfer after this year....a 2012 doesn't show for whatever reason...a transfer after the year after.
I seriously doubt that if Duane Wilson announces that he is coming to Marquette, that Jamail Jones (for example) will be "distracted" because he might not be here...in September 2013.
Quote from: speri on March 14, 2012, 01:41:23 PM
Something that I have not heard mention is Otule not wanting to stick around for a 6th year. I'm not sure how everyone else felt, but after 5 years at Marquette (I did the Engineering Co-Op program) I was ready to leave and move on to the next chapter in my life. I couldn't imagine sticking around for a 6th year. All your close friends are gone and you're stuck with all the new people you probably don't have the same type of relationship with.
I would think his closest friends are on the team. Did anyone else take note of the Big East annoucers saying that Notre Dame will apply for a 6th yeat for Abromitis, but Notre Dame does not think it will be granted. Watch this one and Mbakwe to see what happens. There is a difference between Otule's situation and these two. Otule was actually injured three times and redshirted for an injury. Abromitis used his redshirt year, because he transferred. Mbakwe used his redshirt year, because of legal troubles.
Just sign him. Who cares about the scholarship numbers. Things will work out, and he is a hell of a talent. Plus keeping the Milwaukee kid here will bring more local attention to MU.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on March 14, 2012, 04:17:10 PM
Cmon...it isn't going to be a distraction. Duane wouldn't be on campus for 18 months. A lot can happen between now and then...a transfer after this year....a 2012 doesn't show for whatever reason...a transfer after the year after.
I seriously doubt that if Duane Wilson announces that he is coming to Marquette, that Jamail Jones (for example) will be "distracted" because he might not be here...in September 2013.
Agreed. It won't be a problem. Although I would guess that Buzz would ask Duane not to announce that he is coming to Marquette until after some sort of move is made if that is the case. I would think it would be fairly easy, if a kid is going to trust a man enough to commit 4 years of his life to learning under him, that he would trust him if he said, "Hey, right now we're filled up and fans of the program might start to wonder what is going on if you committed now. Please trust me, we will make room, hold off on going public with your commitment, and when we figure out what is going to happen you can make it then." My guess is that Jamil Wilson had already decided he wanted to transfer to Marquette before Newbill was known not to be showing up, but he kept it quiet until it "worked out." Maybe I'm wrong on that and the two situations were completely unrelated, who knows.
I'm just saying that other teams have open scholarships so the case that it would be just as much of a distraction for them since they are all playing as it would be for Marquette may not necessarily be true because the situations are different. And that Buzz wouldn't say, "Alright, (whoever), you want to transfer out of my program? Good, you can sit on the bench this season! How do you like that?!"
My guess is that 98% of the fanbase has no clue that we are filled for 2013. Again, if he were a 2012, I agree that this would have the potential of being a distraction. But this is a long ways away. There will be plenty of time to address the issue.
I mean, to be pedantic about it, we aren't officially full in 2013 because Otule hasn't officially been given a sixth year - and won't be until after next season.
Buzz hasn't had an offseason without at least one transfer yet.
Wilson is like the opposite of DJO - he shoots it right handed but loves to dunk it with his left. He looks good jumping off 1 and 2 feet, and the fact he can use his off hand to dunk exhibits uncanny athleticism...think he would be a great get for MU. He comes, then Diamond Stone, along with Burton...could be MU/MKE's version of Michigan State's Flint-stones...
Quote from: Ners on March 14, 2012, 04:35:31 PM
He comes, then Diamond Stone, along with Burton...could be MU/MKE's version of Michigan State's Flint-stones...
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Quote from: Ners on March 14, 2012, 04:35:31 PM
Wilson is like the opposite of DJO - he shoots it right handed but loves to dunk it with his left. He looks good jumping off 1 and 2 feet, and the fact he can use his off hand to dunk exhibits uncanny athleticism...think he would be a great get for MU. He comes, then Diamond Stone, along with Burton...could be MU/MKE's version of Michigan State's Flint-stones...
Don't forget Kevon Looney. He's the guy I want maybe most (Stone's size is hard to beat...). Extremely smooth.
Quote from: Stone Cold on March 14, 2012, 04:37:53 PM
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+1
I like the comment, Buzz knows, we do not. If we all just take a break from this distraction (wanna ride bikes?) and step back a bit:
Let's look at the principals involved: A bunch of twitter happy 17 and 18 year olds who are completely unpredictable. And Buzz and Tony.
Hmmm....Our coaches foster extremely close and honest up front relationships with their recruits. I trust them to know how they will fill spots on the team with recruits who are actually going to come here.
All the speculation on this thread and this board is truly fun but, at the end of the day, it's all a a lot of mental whacking off. Feels good for a minute, then you have to clean up and move on...:)
Looks like Duane Wilson took that comment off his twitter. Maybe he read this thread.
Quote from: ibechillindoe on March 14, 2012, 07:06:58 PM
Looks like Duane Wilson took that comment off his twitter. Maybe he read this thread.
maybe he realized there is already a d. wilson on the team and doesn't want to put Du. Wilson on his jersey
what he said above says it all
Quote from: bilsu on March 14, 2012, 12:05:01 PM
The only distraction would be on this board and this board is always distracted about something.
Wat he said above
Duane Wilson Jr. was very impressive for Dominican tonight and Diamond Stone had a triple double. Wilson would look great in a Marquette uniform.
Sam Dekker will be an outstanding player for the Badgers.
Quote from: TedBaxter on March 15, 2012, 09:56:36 PM
Duane Wilson Jr. was very impressive for Dominican tonight and Diamond Stone had a triple double. Wilson would look great in a Marquette uniform.
Sam Dekker will be an outstanding player for the Badgers.
Sam Dekker will be Mediocore
Leave the talent evaluations to people who understand the game.
Stone had 14? blocks.
Quote from: GOMU85 on March 15, 2012, 10:07:04 PM
Sam Dekker will be Mediocore
Emperor bo palpatine makes everyone mediocre
I hope Duane's criteria for a decision between Missouri, Memphis, and Marquette consisted of who is going to make it the farthest in the NCAA tournament this year.
He plays at noon today for the championship if anyone is interested in an appetizer before the big game.
I believe it is streaming here: http://www.waow.com/category/161503/the-magic-of-march-wiaa-state-tournaments
Cuba City will pose major problems for Dominican with their 1-3-1 defense and Cuba City has the size, athleticism and experience to be the favorite. Very good test to see how Duane Wilson Jr. handles this defense and the game in general.
His performance today is not going to affect my opinion of this kid as I think be should be a top or the top priority to add to Deonte Burton in the 2013 class for MU. Based on what I saw of him versus Colfax in the semi's, there won't be too many point guards nationally who will be better fits for what Buzz likes to do in both the halfcourt and fullcourt.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Duane-Wilson-106188
Rivals says its down to Memphis or MU.
Quote from: nyg on March 17, 2012, 10:19:50 AM
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Duane-Wilson-106188
Rivals says its down to Memphis or MU.
dad says it's the 3 M's.Eric Bossi
Rivals.com Basketball Recruiting Analyst
One of the nation's top point guards in the class of 2013 will be making his college decision soon.
Point guard Duane Wilson is close to a decision.
Duane Wilson of Milwaukee (Wis.) Dominican has decided to speed up his timetable.
Currently ranked No. 128 nationally in the 2013 Rivals150, the athletic 6-foot-3 point guard had initially planned to make a decision in the fall.
Instead, Wilson should have a decision ready next week after taking a series of visits during the winter and fall.
Wilson's father and summer coach with Milwaukee based Playground Elite, Duane Sr., confirmed to Rivals.com that a decision will be made within the next week.
"It's going to be between Memphis, Marquette and Missouri, the three M's," Wilson Sr. told Rivals.com. "They all play a style that fits him."
Before he makes his decision, though, Wilson -- a unanimous All-State selection as a junior -- has some business to attend to. After scoring 22 points and dishing out seven assists in a win over Colfax in the WIAA D4 semifinals, Wilson will lead his team into a state title game Saturday night against Cuba City.
An exact day hasn't been picked for his decision yet, but it will likely come earlier in the week.
Hopefully he soured on Mizzou after last night.
Quote from: PTM on March 17, 2012, 10:34:18 AM
Hopefully he soured on Mizzou after last night.
Memphis too.
Ranked 128th nationally? Why would we oversign for a guy down this low?
Quote from: Bocephys on March 17, 2012, 11:02:55 AM
Ranked 128th nationally? Why would we oversign for a guy down this low?
::)
Quote from: Bocephys on March 17, 2012, 11:02:55 AM
Ranked 128th nationally? Why would we oversign for a guy down this low?
Come on man....what was Jimmy Butler rated? Jae Crowder? DJO? Todd Mayo? Lazar Hayward?
Not to mention he's a MKE kid. You don't let Top 150 talent out of your own backyard if you can prevent it - assuming all things are in place with the kid from an attitude/character standpoint, etc.
Every year I watch Marquette basketball I learn that the national ratings are only one measuring bar. For Marquette, toughness, intelligence, and most importantly the WANT to be a part of something. The players that Buzz is recruiting are the types of individuals I want at Marquette. High character hard working student-athletes. At most other schools the word student is lost. Buzz is one of the good guys and his work ethic is second to none and rubs off on the players.
That being said I trust in Buzz' judgement in recruiting, over-recruiting etc. Buzz is an honest individual and I'm sure he is being honest with incoming recruits and current players regarding there status on the team. Every year is renewable as he has stated on multiple occassions.
Quote from: GOMU85 on March 15, 2012, 10:07:04 PM
Sam Dekker will be Mediocore
Hows this for an analysis? Best player and college prospect that I've seen at the WIAA tournament since Joe Wolf. That's 29 years of basketball in Madison. Not mediocre.
Quote from: Bocephys on March 17, 2012, 11:02:55 AM
Ranked 128th nationally? Why would we oversign for a guy down this low?
We wouldn't officially be oversigning since a final decision on Otule wouldn't occur until the end of next season.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on March 17, 2012, 11:28:40 AM
We wouldn't officially be oversigning since a final decision on Otule wouldn't occur until the end of next season they cannot sign a NLI until November of 2012.
Fixed
Quote from: Bocephys on March 17, 2012, 11:02:55 AM
Ranked 128th nationally? Why would we oversign for a guy down this low?
Tell me he looks like the 128th player in this video released a couple days ago.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sH0N92_Siwg
Quote from: GOMU85 on March 15, 2012, 10:07:04 PM
Sam Dekker will be Mediocore
Dekker looking pretty damn impressive in the last minute of the state title game. Kid can shoot. Absolutely carries his team. It's division 5, but still impressive.
Quote from: TedBaxter on March 17, 2012, 11:43:12 AM
Tell me he looks like the 128th player in this video released a couple days ago.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sH0N92_Siwg
looks to be the opposite of DJO...shoots right handed, prefers to dunk with his left. i hope this is the direction buzz will go as far the pg position. nothing against junior, but i like length, athleticism and scoring ability.
Quote from: TedBaxter on March 17, 2012, 11:26:44 AM
Hows this for an analysis? Best player and college prospect that I've seen at the WIAA tournament since Joe Wolf. That's 29 years of basketball in Madison. Not mediocre.
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You meant this about Tokoto, not Dekker?
...And Dekker just drilled a fade-away 3 to win the state championship. Pretty sure he had 3 or 4 threes in the final minute. Would've looked great in blue and gold.
Quote from: TedBaxter on March 17, 2012, 11:43:12 AM
Tell me he looks like the 128th player in this video released a couple days ago.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sH0N92_Siwg
So...much...want. Hope he's staying home.
Quote from: MilWarrior on March 17, 2012, 12:43:34 PM
...And Dekker just drilled a fade-away 3 to win the state championship. Pretty sure he had 3 or 4 threes in the final minute. Would've looked great in blue and gold.
Think Dekker will be very good. Great handle, shooting, and length. He's shown out in AAU too.
Ted,
appeciate your perspective, so I'll agree with your take on Dekker, but I would love for him to have a Portman like career.
Wilson has 14 pts halfway through the second quarter...Dominican up nine. I think he's had about four turnovers though.
Hes better right now than Vander was in H>S
Quote from: BLUEPRINT on March 17, 2012, 01:33:11 PM
Hes better right now than Vander was in H>S
High school? Right now.
Missed the game. Is Duane's jump shot as good as it looks in the highlight videos?
Quote from: Stone Cold on March 17, 2012, 02:53:57 PM
Missed the game. Is Duane's jump shot as good as it looks in the highlight videos?
Yeah, it is pretty pure. Real nice form.
Hearing good things on this one. Fingers crossed.
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on March 17, 2012, 12:42:55 PM
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You meant this about Tokoto, not Dekker?
No I meant Dekker. Dekker was the better player of the two on their AAU team last year.
Quote from: MUfan12 on March 17, 2012, 03:12:12 PM
Hearing good things on this one. Fingers crossed.
When he makes up his mind, I wonder which will matter more, MU's success in this year's NCAA, or Memphis' flame out. Personally, I think that he should give both equal weight.
Quote from: MilWarrior on March 17, 2012, 12:43:34 PM
...And Dekker just drilled a fade-away 3 to win the state championship. Pretty sure he had 3 or 4 threes in the final minute. Would've looked great in blue and gold.
Very good player. Good get for Bo.
Quote from: Ners on March 17, 2012, 11:12:23 AM
Come on man....what was Jimmy Butler rated? Jae Crowder? DJO? Todd Mayo? Lazar Hayward?
Not to mention he's a MKE kid. You don't let Top 150 talent out of your own backyard if you can prevent it - assuming all things are in place with the kid from an attitude/character standpoint, etc.
AGREE
Quote from: MilWarrior on March 17, 2012, 12:43:34 PM
...And Dekker just drilled a fade-away 3 to win the state championship. Pretty sure he had 3 or 4 threes in the final minute. Would've looked great in blue and gold.
I'll pass
Watched the game yesterday. Wilson is a great athlete. He showed leadership and dominance. Hope he joins Marquette. He would be a great fit.
Quote from: GOMU85 on March 18, 2012, 12:18:39 AM
AGREE
Agree - Agree....More excited about him than any new top 75ish switchable we would recruit. I don't care if he doesn't break 100 or drops to 200... From his tweets, doesn't sound like he cares too much about AAU this summer so I would expect him to rise too much. There are some big tourneys in Wisconsin, so hopefully he plays in those and shows Bocephys what he is all about.
Quote from: TedBaxter on March 17, 2012, 05:21:22 PM
No I meant Dekker. Dekker was the better player of the two on their AAU team last year.
agreed, but JP has a far higher ceiling. i think it was a mistake for dekker to sign with bo. bo's style of play will hide dekker's weaknesses, and he's going to fail to fully develop his game in respect to attacking the basket and a mid-range game off the dribble. if mu puts a j. wilson/j. butler type defender on him he's going to struggle. it's going to be four years of post up or spot up. about the most freedom he's going to get is driving opposite of the flex cut or an occasional pick and roll. watching him in the state tourney reminded me a lot of watching novak. in hs novak could attack the rim and shoot over everone...in college he shot over everyone and wasn't able to attack the rim.
Quote from: GOMU85 on March 18, 2012, 12:27:38 AM
I'll pass
You would pass on a 6'8" lengthy forward with range? It may take him a couple years to adjust to the college game, but I can guaranty that Dekker will be a torn in MU's side.
All you cats who are dissing Dekker, are gonna wish he came to MU. Likewise, on Tokoto. You gotta be blind not to recognize their skill set and talent, relative to the college game. As for the pro game, we'll see later.
I once heard a wise man say Keoton Nankivil was the best basketball player to ever come out of Wisconsin hs. I think Tokoto will get buried at UNC and Dekker I haven't seen enough but he's a coaches son and has a developed skill set for his age. Should be good for UW.
Dekker is a heck of a player and will be better than Leuer. Tokoto has phenomenal athleticism but will take a year or two to adjust before he takes off.
Anybody who can't see the talent in Decker is either blind or stupid....take your choice.
Quote from: mufanatic on March 18, 2012, 10:33:17 AM
Dekker is a heck of a player and will be better than Leuer. Tokoto has phenomenal athleticism but will take a year or two to adjust before he takes off.
i'm betting dekker doesn't hear his name in the nba draft...
Wish we had both Tokoto and Dekker. Tokoto has MU's type game and we need shooters. (Dekker). Dekker proved himself in big time AAU ball last year.
He rebounded both ends and plays "D". Great BB IQ.
Deonte Burton and Duane Wilson (fingers crossed) would be a helluva combo. Will be interesting to see which combo is more productive in college if Wilson does choose the good guys.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 18, 2012, 10:26:10 AM
All you cats who are dissing Dekker, are gonna wish he came to MU. Likewise, on Tokoto. You gotta be blind not to recognize their skill set and talent, relative to the college game. As for the pro game, we'll see later.
+1
I'm not going to 'diss' Dekker, but I would not give him a scholarship over Taylor or Ferguson.
Durley is another story, but his SF position wouldn't make scholarship sense at that point.
Quote from: PTM on March 18, 2012, 12:44:27 PM
I'm not going to 'diss' Dekker, but I would not give him a scholarship over Taylor or Ferguson.
Durley is another story, but his SF position wouldn't make scholarship sense at that point.
100% disagree. Dekker is going to be really good. He would be a great fit at Marquette. I don't know how good of a fit he is in Bo's offense, but he will be a great player. 6'8, athletic, and can shoot. I would take him over them for sure. His game yesterday was incredible, and he has proven he can dominate against better talent at the AAU level.
Quote from: MuMark on March 18, 2012, 10:42:52 AM
Anybody who can't see the talent in Decker is either blind or stupid....take your choice.
Most likely dissing Decker is the proverbial sour grapes.
None of this matters, since Buzz is leaving.
Quote from: LittleMurs on March 18, 2012, 08:00:52 PM
Most likely dissing Decker is the proverbial sour grapes.
Were we even in on his recruitment? I never heard much about him.
Quote from: AWegrzyn17 on March 18, 2012, 08:31:57 PM
Were we even in on his recruitment? I never heard much about him.
Nope, here is his Rival's report. He rose considerably in rankings last year.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Sam-Dekker-113453
He committed late in his Sophomore year or just after it ended in the early summer, if I remember correctly.
Looks like Duane will be announcing his decision on Tuesday...
https://twitter.com/futureofhoops/status/181512268977143808
Quote from: AWegrzyn17 on March 18, 2012, 10:52:18 PM
Looks like Duane will be announcing his decision on Tuesday...
https://twitter.com/futureofhoops/status/181512268977143808
Also says 2012 PG though and that kid is telling people Wilson reclassified to 2012. smh
Might come Tuesday, but this 'futureofhoops' looks like a dip.
According to Mark Miller, it looks like Duane Wilson will announce today at 3:00 where he's going:
Quote from: @WisBBYearbookDuane Wilson of Dominican will announce where he'll play college basketball at 3 p.m. Tuesday. Marquette, Memphis and Missouri in mix.
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 19, 2012, 09:43:19 AM
According to Mark Miller, it looks like Duane Wilson will announce today at 3:00 where he's going:
What calendar do you roll with, brew?
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 19, 2012, 09:43:19 AM
According to Mark Miller, it looks like Duane Wilson will announce today at 3:00 where he's going:
That is fantastic news, can't wait to start clicking the refresh button.
Quote from: Jay Bee on March 19, 2012, 09:45:09 AM
What calendar do you roll with, brew?
Okay, I swear when I first saw that, there wasn't a Tuesday in there ;D ?-( ;D
Looks like he has great athleticism, finishing ability (at least at the high school level), and a pretty pure stroke. What's missing from highlight videos is passing ability (other than the few highlight-style passes). Can anyone with more exposure comment on how he looks on a possession-by-possession basis at finding teammates in the right spots? In other words, the thing that Junior does awesomely that is really hard for most people to notice?
Anybody want to go camp out at Dave and Busters with me to get a good seat?!
Dominican is just down the road from me maybe I should go walk up and down Silver Spring in full Warrior garb.
Quote from: sailwi on March 19, 2012, 10:30:05 AM
Dominican is just down the road from me maybe I should go walk up and down Silver Spring in full Warrior garb.
Way to ruin the surprise Lance, couldn't wait 5 hours!
Lance Allan @lanceallan Close
Again in email Dominican spokesperson just said Duane Wilson will announce verbal commitment to @MarquetteU @muathletics tomorrow #mubb
wow - if true, lance allen should be ashamed for releasing it....
Quote from: dw3dw3dw3 on March 19, 2012, 10:32:45 AM
Way to ruin the surprise Lance, couldn't wait 5 hours!
Lance Allan @lanceallan Close
Again in email Dominican spokesperson just said Duane Wilson will announce verbal commitment to @MarquetteU @muathletics tomorrow #mubb
I understand the need for immediate news and being the first to get a story but come on, Lance! It's a high school kid. Let him have his moment. Why ruin it?
Technically 29 hours, but still that's pretty bogus if he let that out. What does Lance Allen gain from providing a scoop like that? Sure it's always nice to be the first to report it, but for a local news guy to do that like that is pretty crappy for Wilson.
This would be huge. Not only will he be a great college basketball player, but hopefully Looney and Stone are both seeing all the Milwaukee basketball stars go to Marquette (and hopefully enjoy it and succeed).
I like how you guys are irritated with Lance instead of happy that we've recruited an in-state 4 star guard.
Welcome to Marquette, Duane! Hope you can take a little time off of school this weekend to watch us punch our ticket into the Final 4 :)
People, Lance Allen was reporting what was in an email from a Dominican Spokesperson. Why would that person send the email?
Glad to hear, if true. Duane is the guard I wanted the most to compliment Burton in that class.
Quote from: wadesworld on March 19, 2012, 10:41:02 AM
This would be huge. Not only will he be a great college basketball player, but hopefully Looney and Stone are both seeing all the Milwaukee basketball stars go to Marquette (and hopefully enjoy it and succeed).
It will be huge. Kid has great PG skills and is 6-2/6-3. Wilson is a great get for MU.
Kendrick Nunn, come on down...
I'm sorry....Who is Lance Allen?
Dan Needles' power bottom
Quote from: MUMac on March 19, 2012, 10:43:33 AM
People, Lance Allen was reporting what was in an email from a Dominican Spokesperson. Why would that person send the email?
Glad to hear, if true. Duane is the guard I wanted the most to compliment Burton in that class.
I am ecstatic...I was just hoping for one of those made for tv moments with the hats of each team sitting in front of Duane, and then him picking the Marquette hat. Just so anticlimactic.
I would assume they told them so they would know it's worth their while to come and get the footage, not to tell everyone.
Anyways, in my mind, PG is now locked up 2013-2017. Maybe he doesn't take the reigns completely in 2013 right away, but close enough. YES!!!!
Quote from: nyg on March 19, 2012, 10:46:46 AM
I'm sorry....Who is Lance Allen?
http://www.todaystmj4.com/about/people/sports/45520252.html
Grrrreat news. Yeah, if it was leaked early against Duane's wishes that's super weak. We're Nunn away from a dream recruiting class and exhibiting a pattern on bringing in both Milwaukee and Chicago's top talent.
Quote from: MUfan12 on March 19, 2012, 10:46:00 AM
Kendrick Nunn, come on down...
doesn't Wilson's arrival use up our only 2013 scholarship?
Quote from: jesmu84 on March 19, 2012, 10:50:02 AM
doesn't Wilson's arrival use up our only 2013 scholarship?
And let it begin...
I'm sure Buzz has things figured out, but the speculation on this board will run rampant. I have to say I love this signing, not only because Wilson should be a solid PG, but also because it positions us well to get Stone.
Quote from: jesmu84 on March 19, 2012, 10:50:02 AM
doesn't Wilson's arrival use up our only 2013 scholarship?
Assuming Otule gets a 6th year, it oversigns us by one with Deonte Burton having already committed.
Quote from: jesmu84 on March 19, 2012, 10:50:02 AM
doesn't Wilson's arrival use up our only 2013 scholarship?
As of right now, yes
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?page=8
Quote from: Tmreddevil on March 19, 2012, 10:55:15 AM
Assuming Otule gets a 6th year, it oversigns us by one with Deonte Burton having already committed.
That would be 2012. I believe Duane is a 2013 prospect.
According to Lance Allen, Wilson will be announcing Marquette tomorrow:
Quote from: @LanceAllenMark Miller @WisBBYearbook & I just talked about this. Dominican spokesperson says Duane Wilson will make verbal commitment to @MarquetteU
Quote from: MuMark on March 18, 2012, 10:42:52 AM
Anybody who can't see the talent in Decker is either blind or stupid....take your choice.
You gotta love those forced "either...or" choices.
Both are class of 2013:
http://marquette.scout.com/a.z?s=415&p=9&c=4&cfg=bb&yr=2013
Makes my day!!! Love this kid.
Quote from: Skatastrophy on March 19, 2012, 10:55:43 AM
As of right now, yes
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?page=8
That would be 2012. I believe Duane is a 2013 prospect.
No, Otule's 6th year would be 2013-2014. He would have to apply after the 2012-2013 season for the Hardship Waiver.
Neither Burton nor Wilson have signed or will be able to sign until November of this coming year. Even if Wilson's commitment is true (if so it would be AMAZING) MU will not be oversigned.
I really hope this is true. Wilson looks incredibly smooth on the break and his jumper looks money. 6'3" with athleticism by itself is awesome for a PG, but when you add in his obvious skill level on top of that the sky is the limit for him. This would be a great, GREAT get.
Does this commitment suggest anything about the feedback from the Big East that Buzz has gotten regarding Otule's waiver?
Quote from: AWegrzyn17 on March 19, 2012, 11:03:41 AM
Does this commitment suggest anything about the feedback from the Big East that Buzz has gotten regarding Otule's waiver?
They wouldn't be able to apply until after next season.
Quote from: AWegrzyn17 on March 19, 2012, 11:03:41 AM
Does this commitment suggest anything about the feedback from the Big East that Buzz has gotten regarding Otule's waiver?
It suggests someone on the current roster or an incoming recruit will not be on the team to start the 2013-2014 season.
Where that spot comes from can be one of a multitude of ways, all of which this board will speculate over a significant amount in the coming months.
Can somebody please help me....So if Wilson is indeed going to be a Warrior, does that leave Nunn out?
I hope not :(
Quote from: Tmreddevil on March 19, 2012, 11:07:54 AM
It suggests someone on the current roster or an incoming recruit will not be on the team to start the 2013-2014 season.
Where that spot comes from can be one of a multitude of ways, all of which this board will speculate over a significant amount in the coming months.
Easy. His cousin Jamil will be in the NBA before Duane sets foot on campus.
Quote from: Jamailman on March 19, 2012, 11:10:17 AM
Easy. His cousin Jamil will be in the NBA before Duane sets foot on campus.
Ha, that would be the ideal scenario, yes.
Quote from: MUfan12 on March 19, 2012, 11:05:21 AM
They wouldn't be able to apply until after next season.
I understand that the official application doesn't come until then, but I'm assuming that the league isn't completely silent about the issue and leaving a program hanging in the wind.
Quote from: MUMac on March 19, 2012, 10:59:47 AM
No, Otule's 6th year would be 2013-2014. He would have to apply after the 2012-2013 season for the Hardship Waiver.
He should be Dr. Otule by then. Great kid with terrible luck on the court. I hope he's getting the most out of his education.
Quote from: JDuquaine on March 19, 2012, 11:09:51 AM
Can somebody please help me....So if Wilson is indeed going to be a Warrior, does that leave Nunn out?
I hope not :(
Absolutely not. You don't stop recruiting a guy like that.
A lot of things could happen between now and then. Things will work themselves out.
What a class that would be if we had Nunn, Wilson, And Burton.
As much as I hate to see guys be forced to leave the program, I'm 100% all about winning. I want the best guys on the court, and if that means someone has to transfer then so be it. In BUZZ I trust!
Quote from: AWegrzyn17 on March 19, 2012, 11:14:10 AM
I understand that the official application doesn't come until then, but I'm assuming that the league isn't completely silent about the issue and leaving a program hanging in the wind.
Are you familiar with how the NCAA operates? That's a pretty big assumption you're making ;)
There's also a chance that Otule has told Buzz that he doesn't plan on being back for a sixth year. That's a long time to be in college, especially for a basketball player who is 6'10" with bad knees and feet. Perhaps he doesn't want to add another year of wear and tear. Keep in mind, this is TOTAL speculation and just one possibility.
Love the way you think Ultiimate Warrior. Lets get the best basketball players possible and step up the tempo. I'm hoping three years from now we are playing at a pace that makes this team look slow.
Quote from: Goose on March 19, 2012, 11:21:09 AM
Love the way you think Ultiimate Warrior. Lets get the best basketball players possible and step up the tempo. I'm hoping three years from now we are playing at a pace that makes this team look slow.
Exactly. Were all Marquette basketball fanatics so why wouldn't we want the team to be better. I love the guys on the lower half of the bench now, but I want to be a national championship contender. If Buzz tried this hard to get the guy on our team, theres a clear cut reason for it. This signing opens up doors for so many potential players down the road. Keeping hometown talent + A Simeon pipeline = National Championship contender.
Now we are talking about raising the bar and not house money and I love it. Best way to keep Buzz is to let him run the program the way he feels fit. This is a business and you have to be constantly improving. I hate to ever lose a kid but plenty leave because of circumstances and do well elsewhere. I have never been angry or rooted against anyone who leaves the program.
Have we seen the last of Jamail Jones in a Warriors uniform?
Quote from: AWegrzyn17 on March 19, 2012, 11:42:57 AM
Have we seen the last of Jamail Jones in a Warriors uniform?
Come on dude. Wilson and Burton are high school juniors that have VERBALLY committed. There is another full year for it all to work out.
Quote from: Jamailman on March 19, 2012, 11:45:25 AM
Come on dude. Wilson and Burton are high school juniors that have VERBALLY committed. There is another full year for it all to work out.
+ a billion
Quote from: Jamailman on March 19, 2012, 11:45:25 AM
Come on dude. Wilson and Burton are high school juniors that have VERBALLY committed. There is another full year for it all to work out.
So how do "things work out" without a player leaving or not coming in? Not saying Buzz is forcing anyone out, just asking who isn't going to be there in 2013. A fair question at this point IMHO
Quote from: AWegrzyn17 on March 19, 2012, 11:42:57 AM
Have we seen the last of Jamail Jones in a Warriors uniform?
He's not going to Phoenix?
Quote from: Jamailman on March 19, 2012, 11:45:25 AM
Come on dude. Wilson and Burton are high school juniors that have VERBALLY committed. There is another full year for it all to work out.
Like the way you think Jamailman. A lot can happen between now and then.
Quote from: AWegrzyn17 on March 19, 2012, 11:48:51 AM
So how do "things work out" without a player leaving or not coming in? Not saying Buzz is forcing anyone out, just asking who isn't going to be there in 2013. A fair question at this point IMHO
Nobody knows.
Quote from: AWegrzyn17 on March 19, 2012, 11:48:51 AM
So how do "things work out" without a player leaving or not coming in? Not saying Buzz is forcing anyone out, just asking who isn't going to be there in 2013. A fair question at this point IMHO
I'm all about Otule, but 4 yrs of this kid and/or Nunn, but 4yrs of those guys severely outweigh the benefit of keeping Otule around for a 6th year... I know Buzz loves Otule, but it seems to me like Buzz isn't willing to gamble on Otule's questionable health and NCAA qualifier status with the risk of missing out on a great talent like Duane
Quote from: kinsella4three??? on March 19, 2012, 11:56:23 AM
I'm all about Otule, but 4 yrs of this kid and/or Nunn, but 4yrs of those guys severely outweigh the benefit of keeping Otule around for a 6th year... I know Buzz loves Otule, but it seems to me like Buzz isn't willing to gamble on Otule's questionable health and NCAA qualifier status with the risk of missing out on a great talent like Duane
I fully support that decision if that is the case, especially because Otule would likely be able to play immediately if he did receive a waiver and used the grad school exception for a transfer.
There is 2 years before he shows up, you have 4 kids right now for next year, have they all passed there ACT tests yet? Can burton qualify next year? Otule 6th year, disgruntled player to
transfer after next year, remember next year 14 kids for maybe 10 spots. A lot can happen, it happens. DWilson, Juan and jJones may never see the meaningful minutes. It Happens.
There are a couple dozen scenarios between current players leaving, recruits not coming in or leaving after a year, verbals changing their minds, a breakout year and declaring for the draft, Otule's unique situation, someone else graduating early and using the transfer rule, Buzz adopting someone, etc.
Pointless to speculate on how it'll play out, but I have zero doubt that the 2013 recruiting class will be at least three.
Quote from: THEultimateWARRIOR on March 19, 2012, 11:18:23 AM
What a class that would be if we had Nunn, Wilson, And Burton.
Three Amigos, Part Deux? With far superior players around them.
Quote from: kinsella4three??? on March 19, 2012, 11:56:23 AMI'm all about Otule, but 4 yrs of this kid and/or Nunn, but 4yrs of those guys severely outweigh the benefit of keeping Otule around for a 6th year... I know Buzz loves Otule, but it seems to me like Buzz isn't willing to gamble on Otule's questionable health and NCAA qualifier status with the risk of missing out on a great talent like Duane
A 6th year senior center with CO's defense and length would be invaluable. I think that along with a senior Gardner we would likely have the best 5 position in the conference, and barring Nerlens Noel type one-and-dones, the country. I know I'm a big CO fan, but I look at 2013-14 with those two, a senior Blue and Jamil, and a wealth of talent in Juan, Todd, Taylor & Taylor, and Burton and I see a NC contender. I hope we get every possible minute out of CO.
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 19, 2012, 12:32:24 PM
A 6th year senior center with CO's defense and length would be invaluable. I think that along with a senior Gardner we would likely have the best 5 position in the conference, and barring Nerlens Noel type one-and-dones, the country. I know I'm a big CO fan, but I look at 2013-14 with those two, a senior Blue and Jamil, and a wealth of talent in Juan, Todd, Taylor & Taylor, and Burton and I see a NC contender. I hope we get every possible minute out of CO.
I never said Otule wasnt the best fit for our team when he's a senior, I was just saying Otule is in the most precarious position due to the nature of his time here. Between injury history, a (somewhat) undecided eligibility status, and a crowded roster, there are just too many question marks surrounding him to believe he is one of the safer bets to be on the roster in Fall '13
Just to make my position clear, if Wilson does commit tomorrow, I have the utmost belief that Buzz has done all his homework and knows something about the class of 2013 that we don't. As state above, it could be any number of things (qualification issues, desire to get more PT at a lower school, family issues, etc). Buzz seems to have a real strong relationship with this current group and I am sure that he isn't forcing people out or doing anything shady. I am just curious as who it is that will be gone as I am stoked for the future of our program and want to speculate about what the 2013 team will look like.
The take away should be that MU is on the rise, consistently bringing in top 15 classes, and the days of having 8 or 9 scholarship players are now behind us. Just think about this potential line-up for 2013:
C: Gardner (hopefully Otule as well)
F: Jamil
F: Steve Taylor
G: Blue
G: Mayo
Bench: Burton, the Wilsons, TJ Taylor, Juan, and Ferguson (and Nunn).
This should be the first of many late runs in March...
Burton starts from day one. He is in a special class of player and highly doubt he ever will be anything other than a starter at MU.
So you already cut Durley and Jamil???
Quote from: Goose on March 19, 2012, 12:48:00 PM
Burton starts from day one. He is in a special class of player and highly doubt he ever will be anything other than a starter at MU.
I missed something when I watched him on TV, long way away from being a 4 year starter, he is a scorer but not a shooter. He will get his minutes but I think with majority of the players
back, he will only see 15-18 minutes.
Quote from: kinsella4three??? on March 19, 2012, 12:43:19 PM
I never said Otule wasnt the best fit for our team when he's a senior, I was just saying Otule is in the most precarious position due to the nature of his time here. Between injury history, a (somewhat) undecided eligibility status, and a crowded roster, there are just too many question marks surrounding him to believe he is one of the safer bets to be on the roster in Fall '13
I completely disagree with that. CO knows the program...knows what is about...he is one of Buzz's guys. If healthy, CO will be on the roster.
On the other hand, we have other players on the roster who have received very little playing time. We also have four incoming players, three of which have yet to qualify academically and whom have never lived away from home. To me, those are more precarious than CO is.
So is everyone completely confident that Otule will be given a 6th year (not will be kept around by MU for a 6th year, but allowed to play a 6th year by whatever body makes those kinds of eligibility decisions)?
Quote from: BCHoopster on March 19, 2012, 12:48:40 PM
So you already cut Durley and Jamil???
Contrary to popular belief, I do not in fact have the authority to cut players. I was merely positing what a great lineup that would be, and I'm not quite as excited about the prospects for those two going forward. I have no insider information and am just thinking aloud.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on March 19, 2012, 12:54:51 PM
I completely disagree with that. CO knows the program...knows what is about...he is one of Buzz's guys. If healthy, CO will be on the roster.
On the other hand, we have other players on the roster who have received very little playing time. We also have four incoming players, three of which have yet to qualify academically and whom have never lived away from home. To me, those are more precarious than CO is.
I agree with you there, and add Burton as the 5th who probably has never taken the test. A lot can happen. commitment from Wilson does not mean he is coming either. Two years from
now, and do not expect Buzz to stop there.
Quote from: lawwarrior12 on March 19, 2012, 12:56:06 PM
So is everyone completely confident that Otule will be given a 6th year (not will be kept around by MU for a 6th year, but allowed to play a 6th year by whatever body makes those kinds of eligibility decisions)?
Yes. He meets all of the requirements. I think the BE grants it to him.
Okay, I know we are kinda assuming it will happen, but I just don't know the criteria personally, so I'm kinda just taking everyone's word for it, and didn't want to get ahead of ourselves unless it was reasonably likely to happen.
Quote from: kinsella4three??? on March 19, 2012, 12:43:19 PMI never said Otule wasnt the best fit for our team when he's a senior, I was just saying Otule is in the most precarious position due to the nature of his time here. Between injury history, a (somewhat) undecided eligibility status, and a crowded roster, there are just too many question marks surrounding him to believe he is one of the safer bets to be on the roster in Fall '13
If Chris is healthy and eligible, I feel 100% confident he will be on our roster in 2013. I don't think Buzz would give his scholarship to anybody else no matter who it was.
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 19, 2012, 01:09:09 PM
If Chris is healthy and eligible, I feel 100% confident he will be on our roster in 2013. I don't think Buzz would give his scholarship to anybody else no matter who it was.
Continue to agree with pretty much everything brewcity has said about Otule all season, including now.
Quite sure he will be granted a sixth year of eligibility. There are numerous precedents, including Northwestern's Evan Eschmeyer (right off top of my head).
If he's healthy and eligible and if he wants to earn his master's for free, Otule absolutely should be welcomed back by one and all. Not only a classy guy but an extremely valuable player who changes our defensive dynamic.
fwiw in relation to Wilson, impact on Nunn, etc...
ddsam7 on the other bored is saying not to jump the gun on his commitment. Lots of stuff going on.
"Would be a HUGE mistake here to jump the gun.."
Quote from: dw3dw3dw3 on March 19, 2012, 01:56:49 PM
fwiw in relation to Wilson, impact on Nunn, etc...
ddsam7 on the other bored is saying not to jump the gun on his commitment. Lots of stuff going on.
"Would be a HUGE mistake here to jump the gun.."
i love when people say cryptic "insider" phrases that have no sources or facts.
Quote from: dw3dw3dw3 on March 19, 2012, 01:56:49 PM
fwiw in relation to Wilson, impact on Nunn, etc...
ddsam7 on the other bored is saying not to jump the gun on his commitment. Lots of stuff going on.
"Would be a HUGE mistake here to jump the gun.."
Who is ddsam7?
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on March 19, 2012, 02:02:25 PM
Who is ddsam7?
Someone who has posted recruiting-type stuff on the Insiders board previously. The comment that is interesting is "lots of stuff going on." I wonder what that means...Nunn or Wilson??? Hmmm....
BTW, if he doesn't come here, Lance Allan is going to look foolish.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on March 19, 2012, 02:12:22 PM
BTW, if he doesn't come here, Lance Allan is going to look foolish.
I think that's certainly becoming a trend in the Twitter-journalism, "breaking-news-first" world
really, reporters write stuff without sources? noooooooo!
I don't think he was writing stuff without sources. He sounds like he spoke with Mark Miller. Now he could have misinterpreted something Mark said, or Mark may have had bad information, .... or he might be right.
I have not seen either player play and would have no idea who is better. I suspect we would only be able to take one of two. That is when you put the pressure on by saying you will take the first one to commit. Otherwise, why should a player commit early. Also, I do not care if a scholarship is available now, because the player that commits now has ample opportunity to change his mind. Nothing matters until the player actually signs.
What have I missed fellas??
Sounds like we've got a Lance Allen vs ddsam cage match going on.
Two men enter, one man leave.
Quote from: dw3dw3dw3 on March 19, 2012, 01:56:49 PM
fwiw in relation to Wilson, impact on Nunn, etc...
ddsam7 on the other bored is saying not to jump the gun on his commitment. Lots of stuff going on.
"Would be a HUGE mistake here to jump the gun.."
Not a subscriber over there, but have heard nothing but good things about ddsam's info from people who read the premium board.
Not sure what that comment means, but FWIW everything I have heard has been Wilson to MU. I guess we'll see though.
wasn't 'the decision' going down at 3? any word?
Quote from: lawwarrior12 on March 19, 2012, 04:16:51 PMwasn't 'the decision' going down at 3? any word?
3 on Tuesday.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on March 19, 2012, 02:12:22 PM
Someone who has posted recruiting-type stuff on the Insiders board previously. The comment that is interesting is "lots of stuff going on." I wonder what that means...Nunn or Wilson??? Hmmm....
BTW, if he doesn't come here, Lance Allan is going to look foolish.
Wasn't that guy just putting on Twitter what a school administrator had written in an e-mail to the media?
Quote from: AWegrzyn17 on March 19, 2012, 12:45:24 PM
Just to make my position clear, if Wilson does commit tomorrow, I have the utmost belief that Buzz has done all his homework and knows something about the class of 2013 that we don't. As state above, it could be any number of things (qualification issues, desire to get more PT at a lower school, family issues, etc). Buzz seems to have a real strong relationship with this current group and I am sure that he isn't forcing people out or doing anything shady. I am just curious as who it is that will be gone as I am stoked for the future of our program and want to speculate about what the 2013 team will look like.
The take away should be that MU is on the rise, consistently bringing in top 15 classes, and the days of having 8 or 9 scholarship players are now behind us. Just think about this potential line-up for 2013:
C: Gardner (hopefully Otule as well)
F: Jamil
F: Steve Taylor
G: Blue
G: Mayo
Bench: Burton, the Wilsons, TJ Taylor, Juan, and Ferguson (and Nunn).
This should be the first of many late runs in March...
Marquette has had one class since 2003 ranked in the top 15..so I disagree with your comment that they have consistently been bringing in top 15 classes..The 2011 class is not ranked in the top 30..and I am doubtful the 2012 class will crack the top 30 either..sorry to burst your bubble
Quote from: icheights on March 19, 2012, 04:39:47 PM
Marquette has had one class since 2003 ranked in the top 15..so I disagree with your comment that they have consistently been bringing in top 15 classes..The 2011 class is not ranked in the top 30..and I am doubtful the 2012 class will crack the top 30 either..sorry to burst your bubble
Yeah, but guys like DJO, Jimmy, and Jae aren't ranked in recruiting rankings...
That's because they weren't great recruits, they just ended up being very good/great players. DJO and Jimmy were lightly recruited and Jae didn't have an offer.
Quote from: esotericmindguy on March 19, 2012, 05:52:06 PM
That's because they weren't great recruits, they just ended up being very good/great players. DJO and Jimmy were lightly recruited and Jae didn't have an offer.
Huh? Jimmy wasn't highly sought after out of JUCO, but DJO and Jae certainly were. Jae was the national JUCO player of the year. They were definitely not lightly recruited. Neither were Joe Fulce or Dwight Buycks.
Quote from: icheights on March 19, 2012, 04:39:47 PM
Marquette has had one class since 2003 ranked in the top 15..so I disagree with your comment that they have consistently been bringing in top 15 classes..The 2011 class is not ranked in the top 30..and I am doubtful the 2012 class will crack the top 30 either..sorry to burst your bubble
I was talking about moving forward into the next few recruiting classes. But way to keep the lookout for anything overly positive and nip it in the bud.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on March 19, 2012, 02:12:22 PM
Someone who has posted recruiting-type stuff on the Insiders board previously. The comment that is interesting is "lots of stuff going on." I wonder what that means...Nunn or Wilson??? Hmmm....
BTW, if he doesn't come here, Lance Allan is going to look foolish.
So there will be
some upside.
Quote from: wadesworld on March 19, 2012, 06:08:30 PM
Huh? Jimmy wasn't highly sought after out of JUCO, but DJO and Jae certainly were. Jae was the national JUCO player of the year. They were definitely not lightly recruited. Neither were Joe Fulce or Dwight Buycks.
Funny, but I remember some interest from Kentucky regarding Jimmy, and they weren't the only ones. We very likely wouldn't have gotten him, except for the Joe Fulce connection.
Quote from: LittleMurs on March 19, 2012, 09:21:00 PM
Funny, but I remember some interest from Kentucky regarding Jimmy, and they weren't the only ones. We very likely wouldn't have gotten him, except for the Joe Fulce connection.
Yup. Jimmy was a JUCO All-American and had an offer standing from Kentucky. The main reason he came to MU was Fulce.
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 19, 2012, 09:25:56 PM
Yup. Jimmy was a JUCO All-American and had an offer standing from Kentucky. The main reason he came to MU was Fulce.
JFB was an honorable mention JUCO AA, but he only played one year. Kentucky was said to be in the mix.
Quote from: AWegrzyn17 on March 19, 2012, 08:51:41 PM
I was talking about moving forward into the next few recruiting classes. But way to keep the lookout for anything overly positive and nip it in the bud.
I didn't say the recruiting classes weren't good only that they weren't very highly regarded nationally..I actually think this team is even more impressive when you take that into account and it has something to say for buzz's ability to recruit the right kids that fit the program like juco all americans and national players of the year..
Recruiting class for 2013 won't be highly ranked either..not enough scholarships available to pull a nationally ranked class but I could care less what the rankings say I like the kids coming in..I think Steve Taylor could be special someday
Quote from: Lennys Tap on March 19, 2012, 09:38:20 PMJFB was an honorable mention JUCO AA, but he only played one year. Kentucky was said to be in the mix.
He had an offer. It came in right before he committed to MU and a conversation with roommate Fulce convinced him to come to MU despite UK being his dream school. This was pretty well publicized a year ago when JFB's background story came out after Senior Day.
And HM NJCAA is still NJCAA.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on March 19, 2012, 02:12:22 PM
Someone who has posted recruiting-type stuff on the Insiders board previously. The comment that is interesting is "lots of stuff going on." I wonder what that means...Nunn or Wilson??? Hmmm....
BTW, if he doesn't come here, Lance Allan is going to look foolish.
My theory, the school administrator said he's committing to MU on Tues, meaning Missouri, LA misunderstood, and you guys just went on for 4 pages over nothing :D
Who's going 21 jump street style to the pep rally today? Any kids live bloggin? Paging Mr Enlund....
IWB and Mark Miller may be there.
Quote from: TedBaxter on March 20, 2012, 10:04:58 AM
IWB and Mark Miller may be there.
Paint Touches has a flight at 4:05 or else we probably would have something. Will have something when we land, if Mr. Wilson picks Marquette.
Any announcement yet?
Quote from: BrewCity BallCrusher on March 20, 2012, 02:41:51 PM
Any announcement yet?
Last night
Duane Wilson @_IGotTheJuice1
@Midwest_Baller what you doing around 3 tomorrow
2:41-
Duane Wilson @_IGotTheJuice1
Almost 3 getting ready to pick soon. #mizzou #memp #marq
Looks like he'll be announcing this in the next 15 minutes! Hope he picks Marquette!
The tension is mounting!!!!!
Quote from: TomW1365 on March 20, 2012, 02:46:54 PM
Last night
Duane Wilson @_IGotTheJuice1
@Midwest_Baller what you doing around 3 tomorrow
2:41-
Duane Wilson @_IGotTheJuice1
Almost 3 getting ready to pick soon. #mizzou #memp #marq
Looks like he'll be announcing this in the next 15 minutes! Hope he picks Marquette!
I wonder if he'll tweet it before or after he announces.
Is it a bad sign that he listed MU last in his tweet??!!??
Quote from: BrewCity BallCrusher on March 20, 2012, 02:55:46 PM
Is it a bad sign that he listed MU last in his tweet??!!??
Hope not
I thought we were #mq not #marq???
Quote from: Jay Bee on March 20, 2012, 03:00:09 PM
I thought we were #mq not #marq???
Only if we're closeto using up our allotted 25 characters.
???
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2013 PG Duane Wilson Jr. of Dominican (WI) has verbally committed to Head Coach Buzz Williams and Marquette University #NY2LASPORTS.COM
We have our next D. Wade!
IT'S MARQUETTE!
You wanna bet Buzz waited on the phone call?
Welcome to Warrior Nation Duane.
Quote from: drewm88 on March 20, 2012, 03:07:23 PM
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2013 PG Duane Wilson Jr. of Dominican (WI) has verbally committed to Head Coach Buzz Williams and Marquette University #NY2LASPORTS.COM
Awesome, excited to see him at Marquette.
ddsam7 on the scout board says it's official. Duane Wilson to MU. isn't he the guy who said don't jump the gun?
WELCOME
Quote from: jsglow on March 20, 2012, 03:10:24 PM
You wanna bet Buzz waited on the phone call?
Welcome to Warrior Nation Duane.
I suspect Buzz knew.
I wish he was coming next year!
Welcome 2 the MU family Mr. Wilson!!!
I feel like Buzz is locking down Milwaukee. I expect him to land stone and/or looney.
Oh, and 2013 will be rather confusing with Jamil, Derrick and Duane all here.
Quote from: MUMac on March 20, 2012, 03:11:23 PM
I suspect Buzz knew.
Of course he knew. He simply wanted to show the young man some courtesy. Again, welcome to the family Duane.
Quote from: dwaderoy2004 on March 20, 2012, 03:15:33 PM
I feel like Buzz is locking down Milwaukee. I expect him to land stone and/or looney.
Oh, and 2013 will be rather confusing with Jamil, Derrick and Duane all here.
Just think of the confusion for the announcers. Possibility of 2 Taylors and 3 Wilsons on the court at the same time.
Quote from: MUMac on March 20, 2012, 03:18:52 PM
Just think of the confusion for the announcers. Possibility of 2 Taylors and 3 Wilsons on the court at the same time.
homer's head will explode.
Quote from: MUMac on March 20, 2012, 03:18:52 PM
Just think of the confusion for the announcers. Possibility of 2 Taylors and 3 Wilsons on the court at the same time.
Not to mention that a lot of the announcers can't tell the difference between Vander and Mayo ;)
It'll be easy..."Basket by Wilson, from Wilson".
Okay, it's official. DW from now on.
Quote from: MUMac on March 20, 2012, 03:18:52 PM
Just think of the confusion for the announcers. Possibility of 2 Taylors and 3 Wilsons on the court at the same time.
Not to mention a lineup next year of Junior, Juan, Jamal, Jamil and Jamail next year.
Quote from: dwaderoy2004 on March 20, 2012, 03:15:33 PM
I feel like Buzz is locking down Milwaukee.
The State of Milwaukee.
Quote from: Pakuni on March 20, 2012, 03:25:49 PM
Not to mention a lineup next year of Junior, Juan, Jamal, Jamil and Jamail next year.
And Jake coming off the bench.
Awesome get for Buzz and his staff. Things are coming up Marquette, let's keep this rolling
It's very good news. I was looking at the scholarship table. How many guys can be on scholarship any given year?
Quote from: mileskishnish72 on March 20, 2012, 03:34:31 PM
It's very good news. I was looking at the scholarship table. How many guys can be on scholarship any given year?
13.
future Milwaukee players Buzz should get
Kevon Looney of course
Diamond Stone of course
and Brandon Key kid a lot of people dont know about 2015 pg in espn top 100 players watchlist kid will be good.
Quote from: MUFanatic4Life on March 20, 2012, 09:00:07 PM
future Milwaukee players Buzz should get
Kevon Looney of course
Diamond Stone of course
and Brandon Key kid a lot of people dont know about 2015 pg in espn top 100 players watchlist kid will be good.
I'm gonna reserve judgment on Key until he hits puberty
All the talk about Key, and to some degree Stone, reminds me of the Junior Lomomba talk of four years ago. "A pipeline to Madison Memorial!!!"
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on March 20, 2012, 09:20:24 PM
All the talk about Key, and to some degree Stone, reminds me of the Junior Lomomba talk of four years ago. "A pipeline to Madison Memorial!!!"
Stone is the real deal. He's a 6'7" sophomore. And he can handle the ball and shoot. Smooth. Plays the game in a similar way to Kevin Durant (in NO way am I saying he will ever come close to the talent that Durant is, just similar types of players).
I have no idea about Key.
That is why I said "in some degree." The buzz about Stone reminds me more of the buzz around Jamil when he was a freshman.
Quote from: wadesworld on March 20, 2012, 09:23:13 PM
Stone is the real deal. He's a 6'7" sophomore. And he can handle the ball and shoot. Smooth. Plays the game in a similar way to Kevin Durant (in NO way am I saying he will ever come close to the talent that Durant is, just similar types of players).
I have no idea about Key.
I think you're talking about Looney, not Stone.
Quote from: Jamailman on March 20, 2012, 09:25:20 PM
I think you're talking about Looney, not Stone.
Yes he is. Stone is a 6'9" freshman.
Video of Duane's announcement.
http://midwestballers.com/?p=1373
And for future reference, Duane ... Marquette University, not University of Marquette. Welcome aboard.
Quote from: Jamailman on March 20, 2012, 09:25:20 PM
I think you're talking about Looney, not Stone.
You're right. Brain fart.
As far as Stone, I posted this in another thread a while ago but I will repost it, I was at the Pius vs. Vincent game and Buzz walked out talking to someone right behind me about Stone. He said over and over "He's really good ain't he? He's going to be the best kid to come out of here in a long time." Considering he has now signed 2 highly regarded guys from Milwaukee, that's some pretty high praise.
Edit: For the record, I have watched about 5 minutes of live action of Stone. So I personally do not know how good he is or any idea how good he could become. But I'll take what I (intentionally) overheard Buzz opine over me seeing him every single game he has played.