Tony Benford mentioned for Southern Illinois job, and potentially for new rivals SMU as well.
http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/51263/3-point-shot-big-changes-in-the-big-east
Selfishly, I would love for MU to keep him. Realistically, he has earned a shot.
Quote from: tower912 on March 06, 2012, 06:10:16 AM
Selfishly, I would love for MU to keep him. Realistically, he has earned a shot.
I just hope buzz has some fantastic assistants in mind... If we go far we could lose 2 easily.
Really happy for Tony. Buzz will have a coaching line as long as anyone when all is said and done.
If Benford leaves I would love to see us go after Jerrence Howard.
Quote from: chren21 on March 06, 2012, 06:18:51 AM
I just hope buzz has some fantastic assistants in mind... If we go far we could lose 2 easily.
Really happy for Tony. Buzz will have a coaching line as long as anyone when all is said and done.
Nothing I have seen from Buzz thus far makes me think he does not have able bodied assistants in line. I really have liked the staff he has put together. I think he will find another when Benford takes the opportunity he desires and has earned.
Pay the man his money and get out of the way is great way to stop the discussion. If anyone thinks the dance was bad for the school I think they do not understand the business of sports today. Buzz has high school kids talking about MU ball and that is a good thing. Buzz and the team has put a spotlight over the university and anything other than appreciation and thanks is insane.
I'm all about Buzz getting his coaching tree started. I'd love to see Benford, Aki, and Monarch get shots at HC jobs elsewhere. I'm confident that just like Buzz has found diamonds in the rough in recruiting, he will find more diamonds in the rough in coaching. And 20-30 years down the road, I'd love to have a laundry list of ex-Marquette assistants out there salivating at the opportunity to come back and take over for their old boss when he steps down after 8 Final Fours and 3 national championships.
Best of luck to Tony!
and this has to do with Benford how?
Quote from: Goose on March 06, 2012, 08:02:45 AM
Pay the man his money and get out of the way is great way to stop the discussion. If anyone thinks the dance was bad for the school I think they do not understand the business of sports today. Buzz has high school kids talking about MU ball and that is a good thing. Buzz and the team has put a spotlight over the university and anything other than appreciation and thanks is insane.
We are soon going to being hearing about our head coach mentioned for job openings, that is wat it has to do with it. I would prefer to be proactive, especially with what we are building.
"You get, what you earn" Buzz Williams. Losing good assistants, is inevitable. Go Marquette!
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 06, 2012, 08:06:07 AM
I'm all about Buzz getting his coaching tree started. I'd love to see Benford, Aki, and Monarch get shots at HC jobs elsewhere. I'm confident that just like Buzz has found diamonds in the rough in recruiting, he will find more diamonds in the rough in coaching. And 20-30 years down the road, I'd love to have a laundry list of ex-Marquette assistants out there salivating at the opportunity to come back and take over for their old boss when he steps down after 8 Final Fours and 3 national championships.
Best of luck to Tony!
Only 3 titles? You are
so negative!
I could see Buzz bringing in Coach Courtney from that Houston high school. He has D1 assistant coach experience, solid ties to Houston prep prospects and coached both Otule and Durley.
To me losing assistants is like debating social issues in an election. If that is the biggest issue at hand life is pretty good. Good programs replace assistants easily. I hope over the next twenty years the biggest problem our program has is replacing assistants.
Quote from: Goose on March 06, 2012, 08:14:32 AM
We are soon going to being hearing about our head coach mentioned for job openings, that is wat it has to do with it. I would prefer to be proactive, especially with what we are building.
You know that Buzz just signed a new contract last year, right? A 10 year roll-over contract that nets him $2mill+ with annual escalators and performance bonuses. Not sure about buy-out clauses (don't remember if they were removed in this last contract).
Quote from: lurch91 on March 06, 2012, 08:33:58 AM
You know that Buzz just signed a new contract last year, right? A 10 year roll-over contract that nets him $2mill+ with annual escalators and performance bonuses. Not sure about buy-out clauses (don't remember if they were removed in this last contract).
I thought the buy out clause went up significantly, though I'm not going to do any research to back up that claim.
Quote from: Goose on March 06, 2012, 08:32:50 AM
To me losing assistants is like debating social issues in an election. If that is the biggest issue at hand life is pretty good. Good programs replace assistants easily. I hope over the next twenty years the biggest problem our program has is replacing assistants.
+1000, agree, there are alot of assistants.
However, I do believe, assts who actually land a high major or mid major job, points to the success of the program.
Quote from: Goose on March 06, 2012, 08:32:50 AM
To me losing assistants is like debating social issues in an election. If that is the biggest issue at hand life is pretty good. Good programs replace assistants easily. I hope over the next twenty years the biggest problem our program has is replacing assistants.
Not sure that was the thinking of many when the last guy was here.
Different times. Different thoughts.
I wish Buzz having a long term contract meant he was here long term, but I also wish Santa Claus was a real dude.
Quote from: Goose on March 06, 2012, 08:57:26 AMI wish Buzz having a long term contract meant he was here long term, but I also wish Santa Claus was a real dude.
Buzz could have a 1-year contract renewed every year and I'm still confident he'd be here long term. After 4 years, he's done a great job, at least from my perspective, in earning faith and trust. He'll be here as long as we'll have him, which for me at least, is a long, long time.
Quote from: Goose on March 06, 2012, 08:57:26 AM
I wish Buzz having a long term contract meant he was here long term, but I also wish Santa Claus was a real dude.
good point, dude
Quote from: lurch91 on March 06, 2012, 08:33:58 AM
You know that Buzz just signed a new contract last year, right? A 10 year roll-over contract that nets him $2mill+ with annual escalators and performance bonuses. Not sure about buy-out clauses (don't remember if they were removed in this last contract).
Long-term contracts and buyout clauses mean nothing. Zero. Nada. Zilch. There are ways around them for every coach, and Buzz is no exception.
If he wants to stay, he'll stay. If he wants to go, he'll go. I hope he wants to stay, but by now we all should know how this works in college sports. I mean, Roy Williams left Kansas, for cripe's sake. Calipari might leave Kentucky for the NBA. Self left Illinois shortly after saying he was there for "the long haul." There are few, if any, true "destination" jobs. That's just the way it is.
I have a feeling this won't be the last time I have to write this, or something like it, in the coming weeks.
I want to see him succeed. So if he feels it's his time, God bless him.
But who will he take with him (recruits)? Who will replace him?
Quote from: Goose on March 06, 2012, 08:02:45 AM
Pay the man his money and get out of the way is great way to stop the discussion. If anyone thinks the dance was bad for the school I think they do not understand the business of sports today. Buzz has high school kids talking about MU ball and that is a good thing. Buzz and the team has put a spotlight over the university and anything other than appreciation and thanks is insane.
Isn't Buzz already one of the top 10 paid coaches in the country? He's done a great job but the man is getting paid. MU has had a spotlight from basketball for the last decade. Let's not get ahead of ourselves. He's paid very well and he has the #2 basketball budget in the country.
Quote from: Hoopaloop on March 06, 2012, 03:09:13 PM
Isn't Buzz already one of the top 10 paid coaches in the country? He's done a great job but the man is getting paid. MU has had a spotlight from basketball for the last decade. Let's not get ahead of ourselves. He's paid very well and he has the #2 basketball budget in the country.
No kidding - I hope MU as an employer isn't immature enough to blindly give our coach another raise each year (on top of his existing incentives) because the rumor mill begins buzzing every March. We haven't had one post-season win yet.
Quote from: Hoopaloop on March 06, 2012, 03:09:13 PM
Isn't Buzz already one of the top 10 paid coaches in the country? He's done a great job but the man is getting paid. MU has had a spotlight from basketball for the last decade. Let's not get ahead of ourselves. He's paid very well and he has the #2 basketball budget in the country.
After reading the story on the Loserville site that they have gotten Pitino's real compensation I am not so certain.....it depends on how many coaches have this type of sweet-heart deal....
$7.5 mildo from all sources.......WOW!
They are so pissed at Loserville......
Quote from: Tulsa Warrior on March 06, 2012, 08:30:47 AM
I could see Buzz bringing in Coach Courtney from that Houston high school. He has D1 assistant coach experience, solid ties to Houston prep prospects and coached both Otule and Durley.
Would that mean that Durley would have to spend the entire year on the bench?
Quote from: LittleMurs on March 06, 2012, 08:17:27 PM
Would that mean that Durley would have to spend the entire year on the bench?
Post of the week
Bart Lundy would probably get promoted, then we'd offer some 3rd tier assistant for director of basketball operations.
Not sure why Buzz wants to do it this way. Be better to lure a mid-high major assistant with experience recruiting at that level, imo.
Quote from: Stone Cold on March 06, 2012, 09:29:42 PM
Bart Lundy would probably get promoted, then we'd offer some 3rd tier assistant for director of basketball operations.
Not sure why Buzz wants to do it this way. Be better to lure a mid-high major assistant with experience recruiting at that level, imo.
Good point. He has failed doing it the way he does. Needs to change!
wow, clip this thread, change the names and run it again next March.
Assistants come and go and Buzz has a great eye for talent. I hope he stays at Marq a long time. If he is happy and he is sincere (and he seems to be both), he will stay because he says, "Don't mess with happy." He won't find a more supportive community elsewhere. He is not from MKE/ WI and I think he knows that.
Benford deserves a HC job. The mark of a good program is great assisitants who move up to HC jobs.
Having said all that can we PLEASE wait until April to have this discussion? Can we just enjoy the ride this March and dance with the guys we got?????
Go back 12 months... before the season was even over, Andy Katz was already speculating how "Buzz Williams will be the most sought after coach on the carousel this year" (paraphrasing) and even tossed out a couple teams who would be potential attractors.
Jump ahead to today... aside from fan board speculation, how many potential job openings are there for which the media has already pegged Buzz as a candidate? Right there... that should tell you something. Buzz has gone from 11-seed coaching candidate to the stars to 3-seed coach of a star. Assistants will come and go, but I have a feeling the summer BBQ behind Raynor is going to be a campus mainstay for a loooooong time. And if I'm wrong, so what... Buzz will leave us in better condition than he found us.
"Wisconsin-style BBQ has a certain ring to it. It's not so much a sauce as it is getting sauced."