I am posting this for 2 reasons:
1) Because I want the 95% of the good decent fans to know this is a team and especially our coach are people you can be proud of. Are they perfect no, but when they make a mistake they own it.
2) The main reason I am posting is because I am nauseated by some of the vile, discussing comments/rumors that the minority like to throw out there. I am not sure if they think they are being funny, or they build themselves up by tearing others down or they are just scum, the bottom line is that the record needs to be set straight.
Buzz is not going to share the details on what happen in WV because he views these as family (team) issues and he is not going to budge on that, so I am not going to betray that. What I can say is that what happened was a simple minor infaction of a team rule, that is it. But Buzz laid out the rules and the consequences at the start of each season. What I will tell you is that it is not:
1, Todd taking them out on the town,,,
2. Drinking or drugs
3. Involving Girls
4. Anything illegal.
For all of you that suggested, inferred or passed on those scenarios you need to own up and apologize.
In regard to Buzz and the reason he did this because he is on some type of probation is simply false and is BS. Buzz did this because he felt it was the right thing to do to teach his players as he said, "to be better fathers and better husbands." Stating that this team is being held accountable for the actions of last year's team shows such a lake of understanding of who Buzz is that I won't even argue with it. My Dad taught me not to argue with idiots because they will drag you down to their level and then win out of experience.
Look at the embrace between him and Jae...that is what he is about..notice it was not Buzz grabbing Jae, it was Jae that first reach out to Buzz.
Finally to further reflect on Buzz's character he spent most of the day yesterday reaching our to the entire WV administration and several media outlets to further apologize for his "dance" after the game. He is more worried about the negative image that may draw to the MU than the minor issue that as far as he is concerned is over and done with.
Let it go and root for this team, not because they are perfect, they are not, but because they are striving for it, they are fun to watch, they are generally a great group of young men and mostly because they are led by a man that is someone very special. Yeah I have a huge man crush on him.
On a positive note DG is planning to play on Wed...because it is "leap Year Day", he figure it has to help his vertical...should know more Tuesday.
Thanks a lot for your posts. Great information. Good to hear about Gardner. It did not appear he had any sort of brace on his knee during the game which is encouraging, although I'm guessing he may wear one while playing.
Thanks once again BD for your insight and inside info (and integrity in your non-reveal reveal).
Thanks BigDaddy. You sure have been a wonderful addition to this board!
Thanks for the info , BD - but I'll admit out front I am going to steal the line about arguing with idiots and use it shamelessly at work.
Thanks Big Daddy. Glad to hear Gardner will suit up. Hope Buzz uses him situationally to give guys a rest, keep out of foul trouble, etc., but doesn't overdo it until he is in good condition. Will be great to have another big for our tourney run though.
BigDaddy for poster of the year.
My Dad taught me not to argue with idiots because they will drag you down to their level and then win out of experience.
This is my new motto.. Thanks for the perspective and insight
Just to clarify..I did not say GD is playing on Wednesday..he is planning on it..but has not been cleared yet. Should know Tuesday.
PS Thanks for the kind words from many of you and my Dad would be proud if you used his quote..he had season Tix for MU for >40 years, drank more than a few with Al.
Great post! Love this team, love Buzz and, frankly almost every Marquette player in memory has been better behaved than I was in college so it's all good with me!
Thanks for the info and insight Big Daddy - with you 100%.
Quote from: MUMac on February 26, 2012, 01:14:36 PM
Thanks BigDaddy. You sure have been a wonderful addition to this board!
+1
BigDaddy-- Great post. Wish you had been around a longer period of time on here. I am one the idiots you outed and will stand corrected. For the record, my point simply was the infractions had to be small and not worth being discussed. Due to that I found surprising that years group of kids were the first ones in Buzz's time here to break small rules and be punished.
Still find it disturbing that we are suspensions this late in the year over small issues. Do the kids not know better or what? We have had more suspensions this year than all my years of watching MU and this since 1968. Hopefully the guys finally understand the rules. We can afford anymore suspensions the remainder of the year.
Just curious, do you know why suspensions being off the charts this year?
BD:
I am the idiot (or one of the idiots) that guessed that Todd took the guys out on the town. I'm glad I was wrong and I apologize for that.
You have any links of Buzz reaching out to the WV media to apologize for the dance? If they have been posted here, I have not seen them.
Thanks, Big Daddy! Appreciate the inside look.
Wow, were people really insinuating that stuff? When I see threads with titles that don't justify their multiple pages at all, I generally stay away - I assume either a Crean/Buzz argument started or it went off in some other stupid tangent that this board is known for.
For example, the "All speculation aside, what did the four MU players do that brought punishment?" thread should have been done after the 1st page & 1/2 - i.e., they were late for something. But somehow, they thing devolved for another 3+ pages.
BTW, thanks BigDaddy - the best and most trustworthy inside source this board has had in a long time (where'd bma go?)
Quote from: Goose on February 26, 2012, 01:59:26 PM
BigDaddy-- Great post. Wish you had been around a longer period of time on here. I am one the idiots you outed and will stand corrected. For the record, my point simply was the infractions had to be small and not worth being discussed. Due to that I found surprising that years group of kids were the first ones in Buzz's time here to break small rules and be punished.
Still find it disturbing that we are suspensions this late in the year over small issues. Do the kids not know better or what? We have had more suspensions this year than all my years of watching MU and this since 1968. Hopefully the guys finally understand the rules. We can afford anymore suspensions the remainder of the year.
Just curious, do you know why suspensions being off the charts this year?
Do you really think there hasn't been disciplined sit outs in the past? A player sitting on a bench for most of the BE season after seeing a lot of playing time earlier, and then a transfer? A sprained ankle and then a mid season transfer. A player deciding to study his senior year instead of playing, but then atoning and returning? Players not starting at the beginning of last season? And on and on. Read the code: a Buzz sprained ankle is often the same as a "Mafia heart attack".
These are students and we don't need to know about the details of these infractions unless made public. Thanks BD
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on February 26, 2012, 02:29:59 PM
Do you really think there hasn't been disciplined sit outs in the past? A player sitting on a bench for most of the BE season after seeing a lot of playing time earlier, and then a transfer? A sprained ankle and then a mid season transfer. A player deciding to study his senior year instead of playing, but then atoning and returning? Players not starting at the beginning of last season? And on and on. Read the code: a Buzz sprained ankle is often the same as a "Mafia heart attack".
These are students and we don't need to know about the details of these infractions unless made public. Thanks BD
This
Blackheart
Holding kids out and suspending kids are two different things. Coaches hold kids out for a ton of reasons. Being suspended is not something we have seen at MU in all my years of watching. Why being held out means nothing to me, as long as not legal issue. BD very well be right on the money.
Do find out funny that someone with 60 posts is so highly regarded. Usually those folks are raked across the coals..unless they say what everyone wants to hear. Find it harder to believe that anyone that really is in the inner, inner circle would waste time posting on here.
Good stuff Big Daddy...I hope that WVU game was a character builder for this team..
Goose,
First you out yourself....in a good way, after BD's post.
Then, in your next post, you essentially call BD a fraud.
I'm confused.
BD, thanks for the info.
Real
This site gets crazier and crazier. I do not think BD is a fraud anymore than I think I am a fraud. I have posted on here for awhile and will stand by my stance that the program is being monitored tighter this year. I can say anything about Big Daddy, he has posted on here for a short time and has offered info that any manager or friend of a manager would know.
I am old enough to have seen a lot of different things happen to our program. I will say I am not in the inner circle but am in communication with smart guys all the time.
My questioning of BD is simply based off his comments. He posted his thoughts and told everyone what they want to hear. If he had sixty posts and said we were on verge of probation he would be called a troll by twenty guys.
Quote from: Goose on February 26, 2012, 03:04:39 PM
Real
This site gets crazier and crazier. I do not think BD is a fraud anymore than I think I am a fraud. I have posted on here for awhile and will stand by my stance that the program is being monitored tighter this year. I can say anything about Big Daddy, he has posted on here for a short time and has offered info that any manager or friend of a manager would know.
I am old enough to have seen a lot of different things happen to our program. I will say I am not in the inner circle but am in communication with smart guys all the time.
My questioning of BD is simply based off his comments. He posted his thoughts and told everyone what they want to hear. If he had sixty posts and said we were on verge of probation he would be called a troll by twenty guys.
I actually agree with Goose here. I appreciate BD's insight and if he is telling the truth, I hope he stays. But in this forum, he's also another (albeit valuable) poster. We can question him, as long as we are being fair and polite. Goose isn't out of line here. BD does only have 60 posts, its not absurd for Goose or anyone else to question his sources.
Love all the info and even if the info is false, considering Im not going to find out the whole story anyways I trust it, so the info is appreciated.
The only thing BD is your DG info. While you probably do truely have info on what you are saying, most of it is really open ended and things that I could just as easily say. "Davante is improving and wants to try and play wednesday but isnt for sure".
Just saying that I could just as easily say hes improving and going to try and play.
Goose, thanks for the response.
My "fraud" comment was based on you saying something to the effect of....I highly doubt someone in the inner circle would waste time posting here.
Hey....I enjoy your posts. However, IMHO, that last post sounded like you were questing BD. Perhaps I misunderstood you.....like your description of Buzz as "slippery". ;D
Quote from: BigDaddy84 on February 26, 2012, 01:08:46 PM
Buzz is not going to share the details on what happen in WV because he views these as family (team) issues and he is not going to budge on that, so I am not going to betray that. What I can say is that what happened was a simple minor infaction of a team rule, that is it. But Buzz laid out the rules and the consequences at the start of each season. What I will tell you is that it is not:
1, Todd taking them out on the town,,,
2. Drinking or drugs
3. Involving Girls
4. Anything illegal.
Hmmmm. So, I guess that the "rumor" going around "on campus" about a bar fight that was posted here during the game, was, indeed, completely fabricated, full of s***, and irresponsibly posted on here. Many thanks to adding your voice into calling these people out. This one, specifically:
Quote from: MURFC on February 24, 2012, 08:47:40 PM
Wide spread rumor on campus that this has nothing to do with being late to practice. More like trouble in a bar in Milwaukee.
Quote from: BigDaddy84 on February 26, 2012, 01:08:46 PM
My Dad taught me not to argue with idiots because they will drag you down to their level and then win out of experience.
Words to live by, for sure. But it's kind of difficult to not warn people who are deeply huffing fumes from the Speculo-Tron Rumor Maker 5000X.
Quote from: BigDaddy84 on February 26, 2012, 01:08:46 PM
On a positive note DG is planning to play on Wed...because it is "leap Year Day", he figure it has to help his vertical...should know more Tuesday.
If this is the case (and based on your track record, I have no reason to doubt), then it will be quite the awesome, Leap Day William based miracle. (Pretty sure it won't be too much trouble for me to avoid getting poked in the eye or my hair pulled since I'll be wearing plenty of blue and gold.) Glad that Sheesh is just able to make it back to play at all after that bad fall at 'Nova.
(http://www.mnn.com/sites/default/files/leap-mnn.jpg)
Real
My opinion of slippery may be out of the norm. I think slippery in this case is good. I think Buzz knew that his dance was over the top before he did. The smirk was off the charts to me. He follows that up with a proud pad of the back to himself on national TV. I love it. All attention moving forward is on him with opposing fans. Al always had the spotlight on
You can be assured that this dinosaur that still has Al pictures in his office loves Buzz. I love his shtick and I love direction of the team. Hands down the best coach since Al in my opinion and best salesman of the program. That nut will get me to open the check book for the school.
Quote from: Goose on February 26, 2012, 02:36:04 PM
Blackheart
Holding kids out and suspending kids are two different things. Coaches hold kids out for a ton of reasons. Being suspended is not something we have seen at MU in all my years of watching. Why being held out means nothing to me, as long as not legal issue. BD very well be right on the money.
I don't know where or how the word "suspended" came into play. Perhaps MU said they were suspended for the half. I believe, though, the term may have been misapplied here. I suspect the 4 were held out for a half for disciplinary reasons. Somewhere - either in communication to, or maybe the broadcast itself, "suspended" was used. I don't believe it is the correct word.
Goose, I have no doubt about your support of Buzz, and all other things Warrior. It's just that a few posts left latitude for interpretation. No big deal.
I do remember a post you made very early on in the season. It was something to the effect of....."we got the f***in horses this year to win this". Looks like you are spot on! ;D
Go Warriors!!!
So if you're "held out" for a semester and your scholarship isn't renewed (Hazel) that's less serious than being "suspended" for half a game? It's quibbling over semantics and couldn't be any more foolish.
Lenny,
Agreed on not being a big deal. My point is simple, this is a board to discuss all things MU ball. If the program is under a watchful eye by school I do think it is noteworthy. I have no interest in reason for suspensions. I have a very high interest in winning and becoming an elite program.
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on February 26, 2012, 02:01:53 PM
BD:
I am the idiot (or one of the idiots) that guessed that Todd took the guys out on the town. I'm glad I was wrong and I apologize for that.
You have any links of Buzz reaching out to the WV media to apologize for the dance? If they have been posted here, I have not seen them.
84 the below is not directed at you. But answers your question.
I have not seen anything, but haven't looked..I am only going off what Buzz told me....there now you guys know everything and I am out of here...I never shared any info that was shared in confidence, but yet was limited in who knew it. I thought the folks on this site would appreciate it..instead it becomes a string of left handed complements and others just calling me a liar. Also as FYI it was not Buzz that told me about DG..he would never share that and I would never ask.
Just so we can be clear I would be glad to share my last correspondence with buzz as a private message with any of the mods if they want it so you know I only shared the truth...but either way I am done.
I am not saying you should take everything at face value but let the facts speak for themselves,
I was the only one to share the Dx and degree of the sprain, that there was no tear and there would be no surgery.
Shared on 3 occasions that he was out for games 1-3 days prior to the game even when others were sharing he might play including the JS reporter.
Said he had his uniform for the ND game, but would not play and it was the first game he did not wear street clothes on the bench.
Either I knew what I was talking about or I was a really good guesser..
Crap I think I just broke my Dad's rule.....good bye and GO WARRIORS hope to see some of you in New Orleans
Quote from: Goose on February 26, 2012, 04:13:59 PM
Lenny,
Agreed on not being a big deal. My point is simple, this is a board to discuss all things MU ball. If the program is under a watchful eye by school I do think it is noteworthy. I have no interest in reason for suspensions. I have a very high interest in winning and becoming an elite program.
Goose,
Didn't want to leave the impression I was calling you out. In fact, with the changes in school and AD administration it is clear Marquette is going to be more upfront and open with actions than in the past, even though the discipline or punishment was doled out behind the scenes previously. This is good for PR, something the past administration may not have been. There is a change across the board not just in Athletics.
That said, don't expect full disclosure folks. In fact, if you want to check your own kid's grades or health records today even though you pay the tuition, forget it unless they as adults agree to share...so folks don't expect to know DJO was 5 minutes late to practice.
Also, great to see Williams obviously has full support of the new Williams with the multiple high fives on a vixtory under the agreed upon right actions by those in charge.
Quote from: Victor McCormick on February 26, 2012, 03:08:24 PM
I actually agree with Goose here. I appreciate BD's insight and if he is telling the truth, I hope he stays. But in this forum, he's also another (albeit valuable) poster. We can question him, as long as we are being fair and polite. Goose isn't out of line here. BD does only have 60 posts, its not absurd for Goose or anyone else to question his sources.
Quote from: Goose on February 26, 2012, 02:36:04 PM
Blackheart
Holding kids out and suspending kids are two different things. Coaches hold kids out for a ton of reasons. Being suspended is not something we have seen at MU in all my years of watching. Why being held out means nothing to me, as long as not legal issue. BD very well be right on the money.
Do find out funny that someone with 60 posts is so highly regarded. Usually those folks are raked across the coals..unless they say what everyone wants to hear. Find it harder to believe that anyone that really is in the inner, inner circle would waste time posting on here.
So number of posts get respect on this site? Interesting. So if Buzz himself created an account and began posting on here we would have to wait until he had 1,000 posts to take him seriously? Some people here are hilarious. Not trying to pick on 4ever here, but he has a ton of posts, about 95% of which are completely sarcastic and may of them jokingly mocking other posters. So when he responds to somebody's story about Buzz sitting a guy for the first half and telling him on the bench that "he would get him in" during the 2nd half and he says "Frozena got the cold tit?" you guys really believe that Frozena was the player the story was about, because a poster with a ton of posts was the one who posted that?
Some people are REALLY dumb here.
Gotta love the people who are too proud to appreciate actual good information for once on this board and run the few posters who contribute valuable information away.
Wades world,
If Buzz is posting on here he has too much time ion his hands.
BD
Please continue to post. Many on here very much respect your opinion and at the least others look forward to hearing it. My no stretch am I saying you are wrong, only provide more details than implying you know what Buzz is doing.
If you want to know my place in MU ball history I will gladly share it.
Big Daddy
Do not run away. If you are confident in more than who is dressing for game....stay in the game. Awesome job on the DG updates, now take it to the next level. I get bashed here daily and keep posting, you get stroked off and run. Keep providing updates and earn your stripes. I am not against opposing opinions.
Quote from: BigDaddy84 on February 26, 2012, 05:30:41 PMCrap I think I just broke my Dad's rule.....good bye and GO WARRIORS hope to see some of you in New Orleans
A couple things...
First, I'm glad for what you've been posting. Like you said, either you know what you're talking about or you're a good guesser, but regardless of which is true (I strongly suspect the former) it's been valuable to us on this site.
Second, don't take the Internet too seriously. My fiancee finally signed up for FaceBook last week. Now she's getting offended at what people write in responses to news articles on the various pages, like Fox 6, NBC 4, etc. I told her the same thing I'd like to tell you: don't take this personal. There are stupid people out there. There are people that won't appreciate what you offer, even when it's of value to them. And that's not just the Internet, that's life.
Go work in any job out there and I guarantee you that there will be people that take you for granted, people that you help and yet still seem bitter at you. Whether it's as a clerk at a retail store, an administrative assistant that makes things go behind the scenes, or the lone bartender at the busy bar struggling to keep up with everyone's drink orders.
In general, when you do good work, 1 in 10 people will tell someone about it. When you do lousy work, 1 person will tell 10 people about it. The nature of humanity is that we are more likely to complain. So if you get 2-3 compliments for every 10 complaints, you're well ahead of the natural curve. Embrace the good, let the bad run off your back like water off a duck, and you'll live a much happier life, and definitely navigate the Internet far more successfully.
Quote from: Goose on February 26, 2012, 04:13:59 PM
I have no interest in reason for suspensions. I have a very high interest in winning and becoming an elite program.
With you on this Goose
Bigdaddy... I appeciate all the info u have stated. And as far as the speculation that is what happens on message boards... People hear rumors etc and the speculation begins. Personally i dint participate in it but that sure isnt gonna stop it. Go to the nd or lsu football boards and it is 1000000 x's worse.
However, i would suggest if u do have connections to the program, that although info is appreciated, i would suggest you dont post it. It can bring no good. And prolly only bring bad things ultimately for u. Maybe feel free to post but i would not offer any non public info.
I'd like to know what time practice is tomorrow.
Band or player?
BD, we all enjoy your posts....at least most of us. ;D
Just know, there will always be someone who takes issue with anything you post....anything. It's what happens on the Internet.
Dimes is right....you might want to think twice about posting inside scoop. As much as we all like it, it may not be worth the hassle for you in the long run.....it's your call.
They were late for practice. Big Daddy, if I'm wrong feel free to correct me.
I've got pretty good sources myself.
Big Daddy, next time you have a personal conversation with Buzz, can you please ask him to recruit and sign a 6 ft 8in, 230lb bada$$, enforcer, power forward........
On the same note as others, thanks for the updates which appear to be credible and you don't have to justify your existence.
Big Daddy's posting hours reinforce the idea that he is a legitimate source as he doesn't post anything outside of normal business hours with the exception of weekend days. As for the rest of us, we have no governor's over our hours. Thanks BD.
Possible Identities of "BigDaddy84":
1. A dork team manager who is going to get himself relieved from his duties with the team
2. A friend of a dork team manager that is going to get his friend relieved from his duties with the team
3. A dork student or young fan that doesn't have any information (<--- Most likely identity)
Possible Consequences of "BigDaddy84" if He has Actually Leaked Information:
1. Gifting a competitive edge to all MUBB opponents
Possible Consequences of "BigDaddy84" if He is a Fraud
1. Confusion among the MUBB fan-base
2. Embarrassment among those members that trusted him
Reaction Upon Departure of "BigDaddy84"
Good riddance.
Quote from: MUStudent on February 27, 2012, 12:16:09 AM
Possible Identities of "BigDaddy84":
1. A dork team manager who is going to get himself relieved from his duties with the team
2. A friend of a dork team manager that is going to get his friend relieved from his duties with the team
3. A dork student or young fan that doesn't have any information (<--- Most likely identity)
Possible Consequences of "BigDaddy84" if He has Actually Leaked Information:
1. Gifting a competitive edge to all MUBB opponents
Possible Consequences of "BigDaddy84" if He is a Fraud
1. Confusion among the MUBB fan-base
2. Embarrassment among those members that trusted him
Reaction Upon Departure of "BigDaddy84"
Good riddance.
Stupid, stupid, stupid. He was one of the few posters with legit information here. Just like bma was. Without him, we're that much closer to a ladies hair salon.
Quote from: MUStudent on February 27, 2012, 12:16:09 AM
Possible Identities of "BigDaddy84":
1. A dork team manager who is going to get himself relieved from his duties with the team
2. A friend of a dork team manager that is going to get his friend relieved from his duties with the team
3. A dork student or young fan that doesn't have any information (<--- Most likely identity)
Possible Consequences of "BigDaddy84" if He has Actually Leaked Information:
1. Gifting a competitive edge to all MUBB opponents
Possible Consequences of "BigDaddy84" if He is a Fraud
1. Confusion among the MUBB fan-base
2. Embarrassment among those members that trusted him
Reaction Upon Departure of "BigDaddy84"
Good riddance.
Good thing you're still a student, you have a lot to learn. What has the guy revealed that would give "MUBB" opponents a competitive advantage? He seems to have some pretty good information to me.
This post screams "LOOK AT ME!" Are you also one of the meatheads chanting "AUTOMATIC" while your own, home team shoots free throws?
Tool.
Quote from: wadesworld on February 27, 2012, 12:21:27 AM
Good thing you're still a student, you have a lot to learn. What has the guy revealed that would give "MUBB" opponents a competitive advantage? He seems to have some pretty good information to me.
This post screams "LOOK AT ME!" Are you also one of the meatheads chanting "AUTOMATIC" while your own, home team shoots free throws?
Tool.
What if BD84 was credible and Cincinnati read that Davante Gardner was playing on Wednesday? Do you think that's information the basketball team wants released by anybody other than a team official? Do you understand the ripple effect information leaks have within the program? At best, a lot of trust is lost within coaches and other staff.
And feel free to look into my posting history. You'll see I vehemently opposed the idiot that admitted he was chanting that at the BC.
What screams "LOOK AT ME" is somebody that's leaking (or pretending to be leaking) info on a message board. Do you think this guy cares about your knowledge of Davante Gardner's injury status? No, he's begging for attention (whether he is credible or not) and members like you are giving it to him.
Quote from: MUStudent on February 27, 2012, 12:28:24 AM
What if BD84 was credible and Cincinnati read that Davante Gardner was playing on Wednesday? Do you think that's information the basketball team wants released by anybody other than a team official? Do you understand the ripple effect information leaks have within the program? At best, a lot of trust is lost within coaches and other staff.
And feel free to look into my posting history. You'll see I vehemently opposed the idiot that admitted he was chanting that at the BC.
What screams "LOOK AT ME" is somebody that's leaking (or pretending to be leaking) info on a message board. Do you think this guy cares about your knowledge of Davante Gardner's injury status? No, he's begging for attention (whether he is credible or not) and members like you are giving it to him.
:'(
Nothing "valuable" comes from BD84's posts. Even with 100% accuracy, his information hasn't even been decisive enough to give any fan peace of mind about Davante (which could hardly be considered valuable anyway). He's either lying and deceiving or releasing confidential medical/personal information.
Quote from: wadesworld on February 27, 2012, 12:30:59 AM
:'(
From the poster that brought you: "Tool."
Quote from: MUStudent on February 27, 2012, 12:28:24 AM
What if BD84 was credible and Cincinnati read that Davante Gardner was playing on Wednesday? Do you think that's information the basketball team wants released by anybody other than a team official? Do you understand the ripple effect information leaks have within the program? At best, a lot of trust is lost within coaches and other staff.
And feel free to look into my posting history. You'll see I vehemently opposed the idiot that admitted he was chanting that at the BC.
What screams "LOOK AT ME" is somebody that's leaking (or pretending to be leaking) info on a message board. Do you think this guy cares about your knowledge of Davante Gardner's injury status? No, he's begging for attention (whether he is credible or not) and members like you are giving it to him.
Anyways, to answer your question, you don't think Cinci is prepared both to play against Davante and to play against Marquette without Davante? Marquette has been saying that he plans on playing when he's ready ever since the injury happened. BigDaddy has said nothing more or less than that. That he is planning on playing, but may not be ready to play. You think a Division 1 team who has already played Marquette is going to be unprepared for either situation? OK, if you really believe that then good for you.
And how does giving answers to the biggest question Marquette fans have had over the past month, a question that has been posted before and after every single game, scream "LOOK AT ME!" It's not like he came on here and without any prompting gave us an update on Gardner. People have been ASKING for a long time now, and he has ANSWERED. Nothing like making a d-bag post about someone who has provided us with some good, valuable information, which is hard to find on this board as it is. THAT is screaming "LOOK AT ME!"
Quote from: MUStudent on February 27, 2012, 12:34:10 AM
Nothing "valuable" comes from BD84's posts. Even with 100% accuracy, his information hasn't even been decisive enough to give any fan peace of mind about Davante (which could hardly be considered valuable anyway). He's either lying and deceiving or releasing confidential medical/personal information.
From the poster that brought you: "Tool."
LOL! Which is it? So, he gives nothing "valuable" and he doesn't give enough information for fans to have peace of mind about Davante, yet his information is valuable enough to give opponents a competitive advantage? Man oh man. That makes a lot of sense.
Quote from: wadesworld on February 27, 2012, 12:35:02 AM
Anyways, to answer your question, you don't think Cinci is prepared both to play against Davante and to play against Marquette without Davante? Marquette has been saying that he plans on playing when he's ready ever since the injury happened. BigDaddy has said nothing more or less than that. That he is planning on playing, but may not be ready to play. You think a Division 1 team who has already played Marquette is going to be unprepared for either situation? OK, if you really believe that then good for you.
And how does giving answers to the biggest question Marquette fans have had over the past month, a question that has been posted after before single game, scream "LOOK AT ME!" It's not like he came on here and without any prompting gave us an update on Gardner. People have been ASKING for a long time now, and he has ANSWERED. Nothing like making a d-bag post about someone who has provided us with some good, valuable information, which is hard to find on this board as it is. THAT is screaming "LOOK AT ME!"
There's no question Cincy's staff is looking at Davante, but the degree in which they do so would change if they thought there was a "90% chance" he would play. Ignoring any rumor we read on this board, could Cincinnati really think it's likely that Gardner will play? He's been "doubtful" for weeks, and the team hasn't given much of an indication of an improvement in his condition. And if you think BigDaddy hasn't actually confirmed anything new, then why would this be a topic of conversation? You failed to address my comment about the effect leaks have on a program.
So BD84 has entirely selfless motives? I guess he had been reading the boards, felt the pain of our posters and just had to ease our minds. Of course, it can't be that he just feels good letting others know he knows secrets (look no further than his purposely vague post about the suspensions, a topic in which he provided no information whatsoever). See my previous post on the "value" of his information.
Quote from: wadesworld on February 27, 2012, 12:37:14 AM
LOL! Which is it? So, he gives nothing "valuable" and he doesn't give enough information for fans to have peace of mind about Davante, yet his information is valuable enough to give opponents a competitive advantage? Man oh man. That makes a lot of sense.
There are different standards of information for what gives us peace of mind and what alarms oppositions. I will admit, however, that if I were Mick Cronin, I would not use or trust any information posted by BigDaddy. But you want BD84 to stick around because you want inside information that actually MATTERS. If a poster established credibility and did provide that sort of information, there is no doubt that other teams could and would use it. Nobody here should want that.
Since we know Buzz talks to Crean on a regular basis, I'm figurin' BigDaddy is actually Crean. Ya know the dude is sly as a fox.
Quote from: MUStudent on February 27, 2012, 12:28:24 AM
What if BD84 was credible and Cincinnati read that Davante Gardner was playing on Wednesday? Do you think that's information the basketball team wants released by anybody other than a team official? Do you understand the ripple effect information leaks have within the program? At best, a lot of trust is lost within coaches and other staff.
Are you f*ckin serious? If Mick Cronin is trolling the Scoop looking for a competitive advantage, we pretty much have already won the game.
Quote from: MUStudent on February 27, 2012, 12:16:09 AM
Possible Identities of "BigDaddy84":
1. A dork team manager who is going to get himself relieved from his duties with the team
2. A friend of a dork team manager that is going to get his friend relieved from his duties with the team
3. A dork student or young fan that doesn't have any information (<--- Most likely identity)
Possible Consequences of "BigDaddy84" if He has Actually Leaked Information:
1. Gifting a competitive edge to all MUBB opponents
Possible Consequences of "BigDaddy84" if He is a Fraud
1. Confusion among the MUBB fan-base
2. Embarrassment among those members that trusted him
Reaction Upon Departure of "BigDaddy84"
Good riddance.
What did he bang your girlfriend this weekend or something?
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on February 27, 2012, 07:51:43 AM
Are you f*ckin serious? If Mick Cronin is trolling the Scoop looking for a competitive advantage, we pretty much have already won the game.
You beat me to it, Sultan.
I hope anybody with any info stops posting because everybody knows that opposing coaches rely on Internet message boards when crafting game plans.
Quote from: lab_warrior on February 26, 2012, 03:25:53 PM
Hmmmm. So, I guess that the "rumor" going around "on campus" about a bar fight that was posted here during the game, was, indeed, completely fabricated, full of s***, and irresponsibly posted on here. Many thanks to adding your voice into calling these people out. This one, specifically:
If what BigDaddy's post is accurate, I am happy the campus rumors are untrue. However, I am not going to apologize for posting the story being circulated on campus. This has been debated ad naseum. I do not think it crossed the line into irresponsibility. It is a rumor which is by its very nature unsubstantiated. If you don't like to read rumor/hearsay, then dismiss such posts and move on. Giving attention to a behavior you dislike will only perpetuate it.
And I stand by my assessment of Lab being a tool and agree with other poster's calling him out as an "internet tough guy".
Irresponsible? If you want facts, go read wikipedia. If you want rumors, hearsay, guesses, etc. welcome to muscoop and every other message board known to man.
Quote from: MURFC on February 27, 2012, 08:06:41 AM
If what BigDaddy's post is accurate, I am happy the campus rumors are untrue. However, I am not going to apologize for posting the story being circulated on campus. This has been debated ad naseum. I do not think it crossed the line into irresponsibility.
I agree with you that it isn't irresponsible, but I will say that it is interesting how often "campus rumors" have been shown to be completely and utterly false.
As one who has been a Warrior fan(atic) for over half a century and who lives over 1,000 miles from Milwaukee I genuinely miss the inside type info that had been provided by posters like bma. Being so far distant, I don't have the luxury of listening to the local sportscasts and getting the local "buzz" about the team.
Now, along comes BD who seems to have similar connections and whom I, and others, find credible. His posts, whether you find his info reliable or not, are entertaining and fill the news gap on the team. Hope he does not become frustrated and is not "run off" the message board by those self aggrandizing posters who hope to show how smart or important they are by promoting themselves at BD's expense.
This thread is a perfect example of why we can't ever have nice things. You're all a bunch of ruiners.
Quote from: dwaderoy2004 on February 27, 2012, 08:10:28 AM
If you want facts, go read wikipedia.
Jeez, I hope this is not where you or anybody else goes for facts.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on February 27, 2012, 07:51:43 AM
Are you f*ckin serious? If Mick Cronin is trolling the Scoop looking for a competitive advantage, we pretty much have already won the game.
What if BigDaddy were to correctly predict Davante's injury status for the next few games and leak more correct information between now and the NCAA tournament? We're in the Sweet 16 and he's posting that an injured player will or will not play in the elite eight game. Even if there is only a microscopic chance somebody of importance catches wind of the leak, is that a risk you'd be willing to take as an MU fan?
Quote from: MU82 on February 27, 2012, 08:01:17 AM
You beat me to it, Sultan.
I hope anybody with any info stops posting because everybody knows that opposing coaches rely on Internet message boards when crafting game plans.
No, but coaches will look for any edge possible. College coaches are nuts. They won't base their gameplan on scoop, but will incorporate any info they can find into their plan. Huggy pulled some info off of the marquette scout boards a few years back and used it in the game. If I remember correctly...Crean was planning to throw some 1-3-1 zone at WVU to try to steal a possession or two...Huggy had his o prepped for it before the game. I remember the poster who brought the info up apologizing for it later.
Quote from: MUStudent on February 27, 2012, 09:38:59 AM
What if BigDaddy were to correctly predict Davante's injury status for the next few games and leak more correct information between now and the NCAA tournament? We're in the Sweet 16 and he's posting that an injured player will or will not play in the elite eight game. Even if there is only a microscopic chance somebody of importance catches wind of the leak, is that a risk you'd be willing to take as an MU fan?
Yes because good coaches will prepare for all scenarios and pay little attention to message board chatter. Furthermore, since portions of practices are open, and a player would be hobbling around on crutches, it would be fairly obvious that someone is injured and might not play.
Honestly, you are acting like an opposing coach knowing the injury status of a player is a huge deal. How would Cronin knowing if Gardner is playing be that big of a deal anyway? He would have to devote about five minutes of practice time adjusting his defense and his offense...and that's about it.
Quote from: MUStudent on February 27, 2012, 09:38:59 AM
What if BigDaddy were to correctly predict Davante's injury status for the next few games and leak more correct information between now and the NCAA tournament? We're in the Sweet 16 and he's posting that an injured player will or will not play in the elite eight game. Even if there is only a microscopic chance somebody of importance catches wind of the leak, is that a risk you'd be willing to take as an MU fan?
I'd probably stop now.
Quote from: Tmreddevil on February 27, 2012, 09:48:09 AM
No, but coaches will look for any edge possible. College coaches are nuts. They won't base their gameplan on scoop, but will incorporate any info they can find into their plan. Huggy pulled some info off of the marquette scout boards a few years back and used it in the game. If I remember correctly...Crean was planning to throw some 1-3-1 zone at WVU to try to steal a possession or two...Huggy had his o prepped for it before the game. I remember the poster who brought the info up apologizing for it later.
Completely different scenario than what we are talking about here. Here a poster is giving some vaugue comments on the injury status of a player...and everyone knows that Gardner is hurt and may or may not play. Hell, Dodds posted pretty much the same thing on the Scout board.
This is much different than giving up a game plan.
Quote from: Skatastrophy on February 27, 2012, 09:20:27 AM
This thread is a perfect example of why we can't ever have nice things. You're all a bunch of ruiners.
+1
Quote from: MUStudent on February 27, 2012, 09:38:59 AMWhat if BigDaddy were to correctly predict Davante's injury status for the next few games and leak more correct information between now and the NCAA tournament? We're in the Sweet 16 and he's posting that an injured player will or will not play in the elite eight game. Even if there is only a microscopic chance somebody of importance catches wind of the leak, is that a risk you'd be willing to take as an MU fan?
Why, are you the urine tester for Ryan Braun?
Seriously, you are being insanely hyper-sensitive, and it's these types of posts that drive good posters (like bma) away. If MUScoop is where opposing coaches and their assistants like to troll for information on how to beat Marquette, I suspect that Buzz will have the coaching advantage, even if they know Davante isn't (or is) playing. Get over yourself, the guy is trying to offer some information that many of us don't have access to, chastising him for that and acting as though it's some sort of state secret is just silly.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on February 27, 2012, 09:50:30 AM
Completely different scenario than what we are talking about here. Here a poster is giving some vaugue comments on the injury status of a player...and everyone knows that Gardner is hurt and may or may not play. Hell, Dodds posted pretty much the same thing on the Scout board.
This is much different than giving up a game plan.
Both of your posts have very fair points, but I suppose I'd be more worried about a different scenario (as Tmreddevil pointed out, for example). I don't want harmless leaks to turn into harmful ones. And as I said previously, even harmless leaks can have negative effects within the MUBB program.
Quote from: MUStudent on February 27, 2012, 09:55:01 AM
Both of your posts have very fair points, but I suppose I'd be more worried about a different scenario (as Tmreddevil pointed out, for example). I don't want harmless leaks to turn into harmful ones. And as I said previously, even harmless leaks can have negative effects within the MUBB program.
Point made -- thanks.
MU Student:
I don't understand why you think that the team managers are automatically dorks? And how does that have any relevance? Just curious.
Quote from: icheights on February 27, 2012, 04:31:55 PM
MU Student:
I don't understand why you think that the team managers are automatically dorks. Probably because you are an ignorant 19 year old. Grow up. If you are really an MU student maybe you should stop going to school and paying tuition because it is obviously a waste of money on you...but then again you are an MU student so my guess is you are on mommy and daddys tab...
Glad we won't be getting any more info from BD because of ignorance like yours.
I believe Rick Majeros was a team manager.
Nah, he just ate the team manager
I am pretty sure DG was in street clothes during the ND game.
This gets really tiring about posters getting slammed for providing info. I had a friend first post here that had absolute knowledge of Dominic James coming back from his injury for the NCAA tourney. He posted that and was clobbered on this board. Result? No more posts on this board.
The only logical conclusion is people do not like inside info. Would much rather have conjecture.
Quote from: MarquetteDano on February 28, 2012, 10:28:13 AM
This gets really tiring about posters getting slammed for providing info. I had a friend first post here that had absolute knowledge of Dominic James coming back from his injury for the NCAA tourney. He posted that and was clobbered on this board. Result? No more posts on this board.
The only logical conclusion is people do not like inside info. Would much rather have conjecture.
Couldn't agree more Dano. I loved the updates from Big Daddy and others who have great info to share with the rest of the class. It's the self-proclaimed Mr. Know-it-alls who ruin it for the rest of us who actually like the information and are willing to see how it plays out before ripping the OP a new arsehole for posting the info.
I agree it's too bad that people get run off. The problem is that it's impossible to know what's conjecture or not. Someone coming on here and saying James is gonna play certainly sounds like conjecture based on what we knew at the time. oh well.
Quote from: MarquetteDano on February 28, 2012, 10:28:13 AM
This gets really tiring about posters getting slammed for providing info. I had a friend first post here that had absolute knowledge of Dominic James coming back from his injury for the NCAA tourney. He posted that and was clobbered on this board. Result? No more posts on this board.
The only logical conclusion is people do not like inside info. Would much rather have conjecture.
I've posted with knowledge before and all I received was abuse about being the worst MU fan in history (next to Stalin, of course) and a man who's only purpose in life was to portray MU in a negative light.
Hell, even one nutjob in this forum went to the lengths of starting new threads calling me out. You can see why people wouldn't bother.
Quote from: MarquetteDano on February 28, 2012, 10:28:13 AM
This gets really tiring about posters getting slammed for providing info. I had a friend first post here that had absolute knowledge of Dominic James coming back from his injury for the NCAA tourney. He posted that and was clobbered on this board. Result? No more posts on this board.
Yeah, I remember that. And that was a shame.
What I hate most is the assumption by some regular posters that the facts or opinions of new/infrequent posters are either unreliable or less valuable than their own. This shouldn't be some sort of fraternity where newcomers are childishly hazed and forced to prove their worth - rather they should be made to feel welcome. If you disagree or doubt them fine - but do it on merit, not something as arbitrary as number of posts.
Lenny
I agree completely. I think it starts when someone does not like what was stated in a post. I have commented on here, with above average knowledge, and if not in the majority opinion it gets blasted. My only comment on Big Daddy was just because he posted positive things it made him an expert. If he had stated all negative or questionable posts he would have been called a troll.
I think all new posters should get a chance before getting ripped or praised on here. More people posting on here makes it better site.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on February 28, 2012, 11:04:38 AM
What I hate most is the assumption by some regular posters that the facts or opinions of new/infrequent posters are either unreliable or less valuable than their own. This shouldn't be some sort of fraternity where newcomers are childishly hazed and forced to prove their worth - rather they should be made to feel welcome. If you disagree or doubt them fine - but do it on merit, not something as arbitrary as number of posts.
Completely agreed. It's a joke to say "And what, he only has 60 posts?" It's just screaming "Look at me, I have 200 posts, go to the school and hear these rumors! How can people not believe the rumors I post on here going around campus to be fact, while this guy has been correct on all of his posts but only has 60 posts?" I was at Marquette until last year and heard all the rumors...THEY'RE NOWHERE NEAR THE TRUTH! News flash: Some Marquette students despise the basketball fans (see the Tribune article about not putting basketball players on a pedistal) and want to bring you down to that level with them. That is how rumors circulate around campus, and it's a joke. In fact, I would much rather hear from an anonymous source that I have no idea where he gets the information from than a Marquette student who heard some campus rumors. You know campus rumors are as far from the truth as possible.
The saddest part is that the people who are complaining about number of posts are those who are also new to the board. It just screams "How come he gets respect when I can't get any?" Well, when you act like that, it's pretty obvious why you aren't getting any.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on February 28, 2012, 11:04:38 AM
What I hate most is the assumption by some regular posters that the facts or opinions of new/infrequent posters are either unreliable or less valuable than their own. This shouldn't be some sort of fraternity where newcomers are childishly hazed and forced to prove their worth - rather they should be made to feel welcome. If you disagree or doubt them fine - but do it on merit, not something as arbitrary as number of posts.
Pretty sure Ari Gold is the worst offender at this. SNAP.
I had enjoyed the bit of anarchy that ruled this board. I appreciate the mods letting us battle it out to a degree, and stepping in on a limited basis.
I am a serious MU fan, but life is serious...MU hoops is where I go for relief. I always read Buzz vs Crean threads for the one post that would make me squirt milk out my nose. This board was way more fun than Dodds board, with the same amount of good info.
The treatment of Big Daddy is causing me to rethink this approach. We have lost good posters, with valuable info, due to the infantile behavior of a small minority. Too bad.
Quote from: MU_LOL on February 28, 2012, 11:30:43 AM
Pretty sure Ari Gold is the worst offender at this. SNAP.
Not that anyone has to defend Ari other than Ari but I don't get that impression from Ari's posts.
Ringout is right. We lose some good posters because of a few mopes whose egos are so large they can't bear to have someone provide good information if it comes from anyone other than them. How do we know it's good info? Let it play out. If it turns out the information given is wrong,
then rip the poster. Or at least go back and tell the poster
you were wrong and be man enough to apologize.
Quote from: MUStudent on February 27, 2012, 12:16:09 AM
Possible Identities of "BigDaddy84":
1. A dork team manager who is going to get himself relieved from his duties with the team
2. A friend of a dork team manager that is going to get his friend relieved from his duties with the team
3. A dork student or young fan that doesn't have any information (<--- Most likely identity)
Possible Consequences of "BigDaddy84" if He has Actually Leaked Information:
1. Gifting a competitive edge to all MUBB opponents
Possible Consequences of "BigDaddy84" if He is a Fraud
1. Confusion among the MUBB fan-base
2. Embarrassment among those members that trusted him
Reaction Upon Departure of "BigDaddy84"
Good riddance.
Speaking of dorks.
If it turns out the information given is wrong, then rip the poster. Or at least go back and tell the poster you were wrong and be man enough to apologize.
Umm the information has been wrong chief. Using percentages to keep the posters "Look at me i'm 100% right all the time" is no way to prove your credible. So BD wants people to apologize if they assumed that the guys who were "Benched" were out partying, getting laid, whatever it is they came up with, but yet BD shouldn't be held accountable for his errors? Makes a lot of sense to me. I guess i'll just hope that De' De' will play against Cincy as i'm now 90% sure he will from the info I was provided.
Gardner hasn't even practiced with the team yet.
Gardner hasn't even practiced with the team yet.
You're picking up on my sarcasm i see.
Not to state the obvious, but some posters need to learn to read...and not just what they think is between the lines.
Once again, some posters can't stand someone having more information than they have. It is too bad.
Just caught up on this thread and really liked what BD had to share.
MUStudent:
The opposing team is going to know if DG is playing before the game actually starts anyway. It's not going to make a difference when they find it out, because they will be preparing for him anyway. Buzz has said over and over that DG may have a limited roll when he comes back anyway because what we're doing now is working without him, so that team shouldn't be overly worried if he's in the game or not. They are Division I athletes. . . they'll already be prepared for him no matter what.
In response to another post you had about BD not offering valuable information. I think everyone on this board is now more comfortable knowing that our players weren't involved in illegal activity, which equals . . . valuable information.
Big Daddy, thank you for what you brought. Don't let the actions of a few sour you on the whole.
Once again, some posters can't stand someone having more information than they have. It is too bad.
Yeah, that's entirely it...Damn do i wish I could report that information. Because that's what my world revolves around. Your response is about as smart as me saying "I'm younger than you so you're jealous" Pretty intellegent right?
Quote from: JDuquaine on February 28, 2012, 01:38:13 PM
Once again, some posters can't stand someone having more information than they have. It is too bad.
Yeah, that's entirely it...Damn do i wish I could report that information. Because that's what my world revolves around. Your response is about as smart as me saying "I'm younger than you so you're jealous" Pretty intellegent right?
If you're too slow to figure out the "quote" button, then you're too slow to talk about the intelligence of others.
Quote from: Skatastrophy on February 28, 2012, 01:40:56 PM
If you're too slow to figure out the "quote" button, then you're too slow to talk about the intelligence of others.
Ahh yes, another Gem here. So because I chose to use a different color instead of the quote button I'm not "intelligent" Again I post facts, you....well you just post insults because apparently you have no argument to mine. Congrats!
Quote from: JDuquaine on February 28, 2012, 01:03:36 PM
If it turns out the information given is wrong, then rip the poster. Or at least go back and tell the poster you were wrong and be man enough to apologize.
Umm the information has been wrong chief. Using percentages to keep the posters "Look at me i'm 100% right all the time" is no way to prove your credible. So BD wants people to apologize if they assumed that the guys who were "Benched" were out partying, getting laid, whatever it is they came up with, but yet BD shouldn't be held accountable for his errors? Makes a lot of sense to me. I guess i'll just hope that De' De' will play against Cincy as i'm now 90% sure he will from the info I was provided.
Another Marquette student begging for attention. Have you never heard an athlete or coach or team doctor say there was an (enter percentage) chance they will be playing? Maybe you haven't...
Quote from: JDuquaine on February 28, 2012, 01:44:30 PM
Ahh yes, another Gem here. So because I chose to use a different color instead of the quote button I'm not "intelligent" Again I post facts, you....well you just post insults because apparently you have no argument to mine. Congrats!
What facts have you posted?
R u argueing over whose right???? Whats the purpose?
PEACE DUDE
What facts have you posted?
I posted facts that, BD was wrong with his information, I believe other posters were saying De' De' would be back within 4 weeks, when that was never announced by anybody. BD also stated Ox packed his Jersey for the WV game, when really that had no relevance at all as he hasn't gotten through a full practice. (I guess when i hear the head coach state that De' De' has been struggling and hasn't gotten through a practice what would make BD believe he would play at all, especially if he's an "insider") It was also posted that he would be "90% ready for Cincy and 99% ready for G-town" It seems to me that this would be incorrect, hence me pointing out facts that this is untrue.
Quote from: JDuquaine on February 28, 2012, 01:56:18 PM
What facts have you posted?
I posted facts that, BD was wrong with his information, I believe other posters were saying De' De' would be back within 4 weeks, when that was never announced by anybody. BD also stated Ox packed his Jersey for the WV game, when really that had no relevance at all as he hasn't gotten through a full practice. (I guess when i hear the head coach state that De' De' has been struggling and hasn't gotten through a practice what would make BD believe he would play at all, especially if he's an "insider") It was also posted that he would be "90% ready for Cincy and 99% ready for G-town" It seems to me that this would be incorrect, hence me pointing out facts that this is untrue.
He was in uniform at the WV game. So BD was 100% correct, in that they packed his jersey.
He was in uniform at the WV game. So BD was 100% correct, in that they packed his jersey.
I stand corrected, i apologize, but in regards to him being or not being in uniform, who cares if he cannot play? I guess that's my point.
Thumbs up - Big Daddy
Thumbs Down- Duquaine
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on February 27, 2012, 07:51:43 AM
Are you f*ckin serious? If Mick Cronin is trolling the Scoop looking for a competitive advantage, we pretty much have already won the game.
+1
Agree with others BigDaddy. If you have the inside scoop, you should think about keeping it to yourself. The trouble is not worth it.
Quote from: JDuquaine on February 28, 2012, 01:56:18 PM
What facts have you posted?
I posted facts that, BD was wrong with his information, I believe other posters were saying De' De' would be back within 4 weeks, when that was never announced by anybody. BD also stated Ox packed his Jersey for the WV game, when really that had no relevance at all as he hasn't gotten through a full practice. (I guess when i hear the head coach state that De' De' has been struggling and hasn't gotten through a practice what would make BD believe he would play at all, especially if he's an "insider") It was also posted that he would be "90% ready for Cincy and 99% ready for G-town" It seems to me that this would be incorrect, hence me pointing out facts that this is untrue.
You know "Chief", I don't think I'm alone when I say I still haven't seen any facts posted by you or anyone that says Big Daddy was "wrong" with his information. Big Daddy posted what he's obviously heard from either Buzz or from DG. But then, that's quite different than the gems you posted about your conversations with your buddy Chris.
But then, that's quite different than the gems you posted about your conversations with your buddy Chris.
Yeah? And what did i provide that was incorrect? Please enlighten me! Just because I didn't tell you anything that makes my info wrong. How does failing feel?
Quote from: JDuquaine on February 28, 2012, 02:27:08 PM
But then, that's quite different than the gems you posted about your conversations with your buddy Chris.
Yeah? And what did i provide that was incorrect? Please enlighten me! Just because I didn't tell you anything that makes my info wrong. How does failing feel?
I just don't like because you have yet to figure how to quote another post. It ain't that hard.
Quote from: strotty on February 28, 2012, 01:03:56 PM
Gardner hasn't even practiced with the team yet.
Ever? Or just since his injury?
Quote from: reinko on February 28, 2012, 02:29:17 PM
I just don't like because you have yet to figure how to quote another post. It ain't that hard.
Please look at the first post on this page, as i clearly demonstrated how to....Maybe this will help.
I'm beginning to wonder on how MU is rated as a top 75 school academically in America. ?-(
Quote from: reinko on February 28, 2012, 02:29:17 PM
I just don't like because you have yet to figure how to quote another post. It ain't that hard.
Wow...this thread is getting ridiculously childish.
If Big Daddy has really decided not to post further he is SOFT. Everyone gets busted on here from time to time.
Quote from: reinko on February 28, 2012, 02:29:17 PM
I just don't like because you have yet to figure how to quote another post. It ain't that hard.
His color coded posts are awesome, though!
Quote from: JDuquaine on February 28, 2012, 02:31:16 PM
Please look at the first post on this page, as i clearly demonstrated how to....Maybe this will help.
I'm beginning to wonder on how MU is rated as a top 75 school academically in America. ?-(
Settle down Nancy.
LOUD NOISES!!!!
I hope the mods lock this thread. Is anyone getting anything from this thread anymore?? What a joke. I'm so sorry BD.
Quote from: JDuquaine on February 28, 2012, 02:27:08 PM
But then, that's quite different than the gems you posted about your conversations with your buddy Chris.
Yeah? And what did i provide that was incorrect? Please enlighten me! Just because I didn't tell you anything that makes my info wrong. How does failing feel?
What did you provide that was incorrect? Nothing. You just didn't tell us anything. What did Big Daddy provide that was incorrect? Nothing. But since you feel he didn't tell us anything, in your mind that's wrong information.
I'm not even going to address your "failing" comment. Welcome to ignore.
Quote from: JDuquaine on February 28, 2012, 02:27:08 PM
But then, that's quite different than the gems you posted about your conversations with your buddy Chris.
Yeah? And what did i provide that was incorrect? Please enlighten me! Just because I didn't tell you anything that makes my info wrong. How does failing feel?
You made the exact same claim about BigDaddy. You claimed that because he ruled out the reasons being thrown around on this board as the real reason for the suspension without giving the actual reason he did not give us any facts.
Quote from: JDuquaine on February 28, 2012, 01:56:18 PM
What facts have you posted?
I posted facts that, BD was wrong with his information, I believe other posters were saying De' De' would be back within 4 weeks, when that was never announced by anybody. BD also stated Ox packed his Jersey for the WV game, when really that had no relevance at all as he hasn't gotten through a full practice. (I guess when i hear the head coach state that De' De' has been struggling and hasn't gotten through a practice what would make BD believe he would play at all, especially if he's an "insider") It was also posted that he would be "90% ready for Cincy and 99% ready for G-town" It seems to me that this would be incorrect, hence me pointing out facts that this is untrue.
It's funny that you try to take shots at other peoples' intelligence. That first sentence is incomprehensible. What are you trying to show? "I posted facts that BD was wrong." Again, please state the facts that you posted, I don't see them and you didn't provide them. "I believe other posters were saying De' De' would be back in 4 weeks, when that was never announced." OK, so what does that have to do with facts that you provided? Or with BigDaddy? "Ox" did pack his jersey for West Virginia. Isn't it interesting that the first time BigDaddy told us that Davante had a real chance to play and at least had his uniform packed, was the first time he was NOT in street clothes on the bench? Weird. Looks like BigDaddy had his facts right. But hey, he must have just been a good guesser there, right? Correct me if I'm wrong, but we haven't played at Cinci or at home against Georgetown yet, have we? I think I'm right on that. Maybe not. So how do you know if Davante will play or not? Not to mention, how is he wrong if he doesn't play when he says there's a 90% chance he plays? He didn't say 100% chance. He didn't say he absolutely will play. He said he wanted to play.
I fail to see where you provided any facts...
Oh no wait...please don't ignore!!
I had zero problem with BD stating the DG news but his comments on the suspensions. He clearly outed me for stating that the suspensions were not based off last years issues. He stated, contrary to me, that Buzz is not on some secret probation. His stance was as open ended as mine, yet his was taken as gospel. My post was based off information I heard from reliable sources. My feeling on the situation is simple, Buzz was told to run a tighter ship by his boss(es)...no big deal.
I have since communicated via PM with BD and will stand with my statement that this years suspensions are based off last years behavior issues. If anything after our PM communication I fell more confident on my sources.
He can post about jerseys, playing time or whatever he wants. But, if he is going to call out a poster he needs to back it up in my opinion.
Quote from: DienerTime34 on February 28, 2012, 02:43:01 PM
LOUD NOISES!!!!
Above is great evidence of someone with low numbers of posts contributing something worthwhile. As much as I love Brick Tamland (more than lamp!) I think my guy Walter is more appropriate for how badly this thread has gone off the rails. Has this whole board gone crazy?!
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Quote from: Goose on February 28, 2012, 03:06:49 PM
I had zero problem with BD stating the DG news but his comments on the suspensions. He clearly outed me for stating that the suspensions were not based off last years issues. He stated, contrary to me, that Buzz is not on some secret probation. His stance was as open ended as mine, yet his was taken as gospel. My post was based off information I heard from reliable sources. My feeling on the situation is simple, Buzz was told to run a tighter ship by his boss(es)...no big deal.
I have since communicated via PM with BD and will stand with my statement that this years suspensions are based off last years behavior issues. If anything after our PM communication I fell more confident on my sources.
He can post about jerseys, playing time or whatever he wants. But, if he is going to call out a poster he needs to back it up in my opinion.
All I read was:
Nananananana, I was right. I have sources.
/felt like getting in on the childishness
Lance
All I care about is the following:
Deep, depp run into March
Locking Buzz down to remaining at MU
Other than that, it is all entertaining to me
Quote from: Goose on February 28, 2012, 03:17:18 PM
Lance
All I care about is the following:
Deep, depp run into March
Locking Buzz down to remaining at MU
Other than that, it is all entertaining to me
+1,000,000
Two many people take things way to seriously in here.
Quote from: JDuquaine on February 28, 2012, 03:57:58 PM
+1,000,000
Two many people take things way to seriously in here.
LOL. And you were trying to insult other posters' intelligence earlier...
You tried to be funny and sarcastic with your first misuse of the word "too," and then went on to
actually misuse it. Incredible.
Quote from: JDuquaine on February 28, 2012, 03:57:58 PM
+1,000,000
Two many people take things way to seriously in here.
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Wow, this thread is still going? Must be one hell of a pissing match.
Hey, we are ranked #7!!!!
Quit feeding the trolls.
LOL. And you were trying to insult other posters' intelligence earlier...
You tried to be funny and sarcastic with your first misuse of the word "too," and then went on to actually misuse it. Incredible.
Very smart I see... Next time i'll use teal.
Quote from: JDuquaine on February 28, 2012, 01:56:18 PM
What facts have you posted?
I posted facts that, BD was wrong with his information, I believe other posters were saying De' De' would be back within 4 weeks, when that was never announced by anybody. BD also stated Ox packed his Jersey for the WV game, when really that had no relevance at all as he hasn't gotten through a full practice. (I guess when i hear the head coach state that De' De' has been struggling and hasn't gotten through a practice what would make BD believe he would play at all, especially if he's an "insider") It was also posted that he would be "90% ready for Cincy and 99% ready for G-town" It seems to me that this would be incorrect, hence me pointing out facts that this is untrue.
It was a decision that would be made after Thursday's practice, which I believe was in WV. Thus, the uniform was packed, he attended practice and the decision was made, which BD reported, that he would not play. He did, however, suit up. I do not believe his uniform was packed for any other road game since Nova. He did, according to Mac, go through pregame warm ups. Why is this so hard for you to comprehend?
speaking of rumors, does anyone remember the "Britney Spears is coming to marquette" rumor, circa 1998-99? That was awesome.
EDIT: Was going to say something but have come to the conclusion this thread just isn't worth the effort anymore...