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Title: Christopherson...seriously?
Post by: Jacks DC on January 18, 2012, 10:00:43 PM
Drills a game winning 3 off the glass.  Dude is on a roll.
Title: Re: Christopherson...seriously?
Post by: Ari Gold on January 18, 2012, 10:04:55 PM
A college player hits a shot?
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Title: Re: Christopherson...seriously?
Post by: MUCam on January 18, 2012, 10:31:51 PM
Quote from: Jacks DC on January 18, 2012, 10:00:43 PM
Drills a game winning 3 off the glass.  Dude is on a roll.

I don't care enough to look myself, but I find these updates interesting and I appreciate the information. Ari may speak for a smaller majority than he thinks.
Title: Re: Christopherson...seriously?
Post by: avid1010 on January 19, 2012, 06:48:41 AM
i like the updates...i think this entire board is about playing the "what if" game. 
Title: Re: Christopherson...seriously?
Post by: damuts222 on January 19, 2012, 06:57:46 AM
  I agree, it is interesting to watch transfers like Mbakwe, Christopherson, Tyshawn Taylor etc. There is no ill will towards players that transfer. Sometimes the shoe doesn't fit.
Title: Re: Christopherson...seriously?
Post by: Tugg Speedman on January 19, 2012, 07:09:49 AM
Quote from: damuts222 on January 19, 2012, 06:57:46 AM
  I agree, it is interesting to watch transfers like Mbakwe, Christopherson, Tyshawn Taylor etc. There is no ill will towards players that transfer. Sometimes the shoe doesn't fit.

Yes and don't forget Jmay, Reggie Smith, Mbao, McMorrow, Ewill, Newbill, and Roseboro.
Title: Re: Christopherson...seriously?
Post by: jesmu84 on January 19, 2012, 07:18:23 AM
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on January 19, 2012, 07:09:49 AM
Yes and don't forget Jmay, Reggie Smith, Mbao, McMorrow, Ewill, Newbill, and Roseboro.
Newbill was never enrolled, therefore could not have transferred.
Title: Re: Christopherson...seriously?
Post by: Tugg Speedman on January 19, 2012, 07:21:11 AM
Quote from: socrplar125 on January 19, 2012, 07:18:23 AM
Newbill was never enrolled, therefore could not have transferred.

He wanted to ... Ty Taylor did not enroll either.
Title: Re: Christopherson...seriously?
Post by: StillAWarrior on January 19, 2012, 08:14:23 AM
Quote from: MUCam on January 18, 2012, 10:31:51 PM
I don't care enough to look myself, but I find these updates interesting and I appreciate the information. Ari may speak for a smaller majority than he thinks.

I care too...

Perhaps Ari's speaking for a minority?  Or himself?  Or maybe if he doesn't care about something he could just not click on the thread rather than taking the time to post how little he cares.
Title: Re: Christopherson...seriously?
Post by: bilsu on January 19, 2012, 08:21:20 AM
I care, because it is interesting to see how wrong posters are about how good a player is. Many here did not think Christopherson would ever be any good. I do think he looked worse than he was, because he did not look like an athlete and as a freshmen he was playing with to McNeal, Matthews and James, who could make respectable athletes look nonathletic.
Title: Re: Christopherson...seriously?
Post by: CTWarrior on January 19, 2012, 08:25:41 AM
Agree that I like to know how some of the guys that have passed through here do elsewhere.  If Christopherson stayed at MU, he would have used up his eligibility last season, so no "what if" game for him this season.
Title: Re: Christopherson...seriously?
Post by: reinko on January 19, 2012, 09:09:09 AM
Quote from: CTWarrior on January 19, 2012, 08:25:41 AM
Agree that I like to know how some of the guys that have passed through here do elsewhere.  If Christopherson stayed at MU, he would have used up his eligibility last season, so no "what if" game for him this season.

Facts are for nerds.
Title: Re: Christopherson...seriously?
Post by: jmayer1 on January 19, 2012, 09:32:19 AM
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on January 19, 2012, 07:09:49 AM
Yes and don't forget Jmay, Reggie Smith, Mbao, McMorrow, Ewill, Newbill, and Roseboro.

Or Nick Williams.
Title: Re: Christopherson...seriously?
Post by: 77ncaachamps on January 19, 2012, 09:47:26 AM
Or Patrick Hazel

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/team/roster/_/id/104/boston-university-terriers
Title: Re: Christopherson...seriously?
Post by: Tugg Speedman on January 19, 2012, 09:58:04 AM
So 11 players are on D1 rosters this year that either sighed with MU, or transferred from MU.

I think we have our Non-Conference Schedule!

Title: Re: Christopherson...seriously?
Post by: 77ncaachamps on January 19, 2012, 10:00:16 AM
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on January 19, 2012, 09:58:04 AM
So 11 players are on D1 rosters this year that either sighed with MU, or transferred from MU.

I think we have our Non-Conference Schedule!



I don't think we want any "revenge" matches that would lead to "breakout" games by the non-MUers.

But we DID beat Nick Williams.
Title: Re: Christopherson...seriously?
Post by: lab_warrior on January 19, 2012, 10:01:27 AM
Quote from: avid1010 on January 19, 2012, 06:48:41 AM
i like the updates...i think this entire board is about playing the "what if" game. 

Yeah, WHAT IF a spot-up shooter who can't guard anyone or rebound took up valuable roster space for 4 years.  I DO WONDER ABOUT THAT OFTEN.

/lived through Mike Deane era
Title: Re: Christopherson...seriously?
Post by: The Man in Gold on January 19, 2012, 10:02:14 AM
Quote from: StillAWarrior on January 19, 2012, 08:14:23 AM
I care too...

Perhaps Ari's speaking for a minority?  Or himself?  Or maybe if he doesn't care about something he could just not click on the thread rather than taking the time to post how little he cares.

You're seriously overestimating the value of Ari's time.
Title: Re: Christopherson...seriously?
Post by: lab_warrior on January 19, 2012, 10:14:11 AM
Quote from: Jacks DC on January 18, 2012, 10:00:43 PM
Drills a game winning 3 off the glass.  Dude is on a roll.

AND what a HUGE shot it was, beating a .500 team... with a sub .500 conference record... at home.

THAT KID IS GOING PLACES!

Title: Re: Christopherson...seriously?
Post by: Ari Gold on January 19, 2012, 10:25:18 AM
Quote from: The Man in Gold on January 19, 2012, 10:02:14 AM
You're seriously overestimating the value of Ari's time.

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Title: Re: Christopherson...seriously?
Post by: wyzgy on January 19, 2012, 03:08:57 PM
Quote from: Jacks DC on January 18, 2012, 10:00:43 PM
Drills a game winning 3 off the glass.  Dude is on a roll.

good for him 8-)
Title: Re: Christopherson...seriously?
Post by: wadesworld on January 19, 2012, 03:55:29 PM
Quote from: lab_warrior on January 19, 2012, 10:14:11 AM
AND what a HUGE shot it was, beating a .500 team... with a sub .500 conference record... at home.

THAT KID IS GOING PLACES!



Considering they're on pace to go to the NCAA Tournament this year, had he missed that shot and they lost in OT that would obviously not have been a great loss. That shot could be the difference between NCAA and NIT for Iowa State. So yeah, it could be a HUGE shot. The kid scored 17 last night and 19 against the top 5 squad Missouri. Not sure what your beef is with him, maybe he schooled you back in the LaCrosse area high school. He was Honroable Mention All Big 12 last year, yet he'd be a waste of a sholarship for 4 years? God forbid we someone on our roster who is so bad at basketball he can only make Honorable Mention in a high-major conference. Childish.

Best of luck to Scott. Glad he's getting it done at Iowa State.
Title: Re: Christopherson...seriously?
Post by: wadesworld on January 25, 2012, 08:23:30 PM
Quote from: lab_warrior on January 19, 2012, 10:14:11 AM
AND what a HUGE shot it was, beating a .500 team... with a sub .500 conference record... at home.

THAT KID IS GOING PLACES!



Looks like that same .500 team is now back to .500 after beating #2 Missouri.  Weird.
Title: Re: Christopherson...seriously?
Post by: GGGG on January 25, 2012, 08:32:48 PM
Odd that the collective MUScoop didn't think Christopherson could do anything for us now gets excited about Jake Thomas.
Title: Re: Christopherson...seriously?
Post by: 🏀 on January 25, 2012, 08:34:34 PM
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on January 25, 2012, 08:32:48 PM
Odd that the collective MUScoop didn't think Christopherson could do anything for us now gets excited about Jake Thomas.

SC was only like five star recruit when he committed after this sophomore year. For the rest of my thoughts, see the Vander thread.
Title: Re: Christopherson...seriously?
Post by: Hoopaloop on January 27, 2012, 03:35:39 PM
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on January 25, 2012, 08:32:48 PM
Odd that the collective MUScoop didn't think Christopherson could do anything for us now gets excited about Jake Thomas.

Well done.  Afterall, the kid is merely an all-conference player in the Big 12 (rated #1 or #2 in just about every conference ratings system and ahead of the Big East).

This notion that the guy cannot guard anyone shows me that the experts on this board don't agree with the actual college basketball coaches in the Big 12.
Title: Re: Christopherson...seriously?
Post by: dwaderoy2004 on January 27, 2012, 03:51:35 PM
Quote from: Hoopaloop on January 27, 2012, 03:35:39 PM
Well done.  Afterall, the kid is merely an all-conference player in the Big 12 (rated #1 or #2 in just about every conference ratings system and ahead of the Big East).

This notion that the guy cannot guard anyone shows me that the experts on this board don't agree with the actual college basketball coaches in the Big 12.

Well, he WAS an all conference player, last year, when the big 12 was more like #3 or #4, and Iowa St. was really bad (3-13 in conference).  And can you produce any quote from a coach in the big 12 saying that Christopherson is a good defender?

I don't even really disagree with your premise...I think he would have been a useful player for us.  But your statements are 1) incorrect and 2) unsupported.

ADDED: The coaches actually thought so highly of him that they failed to put him on the preseason all conference first team or honorable mention after being given the honor last season.
Title: Re: Christopherson...seriously?
Post by: MU B2002 on January 27, 2012, 06:31:39 PM
This month's ESPN the magazine has a feature on Iowa State and the rise in the program with the transfers they have brought in.  4 players are featured in the photos in the article, and Scotty C is not one of them. Which is kind of odd, maybe after I read the article it will make more sense. But I guess ESPN doesn't think much of him either. 
Title: Re: Christopherson...seriously?
Post by: wadesworld on January 27, 2012, 08:11:35 PM
Quote from: MU B2002 on January 27, 2012, 06:31:39 PM
This month's ESPN the magazine has a feature on Iowa State and the rise in the program with the transfers they have brought in.  4 players are featured in the photos in the article, and Scotty C is not one of them. Which is kind of odd, maybe after I read the article it will make more sense. But I guess ESPN doesn't think much of him either. 

That's too bad.  He's had a couple big games and big shots lately.  19 points against Missouri, buzzer beating, game winning 3 pointer (and 17 points) against Oklahoma State.  He shoots 41% from 3 point land (DJO leads Marquette at 39%...but I forgot, Scott would've never been able to get his shot off in the Big East.  He's lucky he plays in such a weak, slow, unathletic conference like the Big 12...) and shoots 92% from the free throw line (Todd leads Marquette players who average more than 5 mpg at 79%).  Lord knows Marquette could use a ball handler who can step up to the line and put games away at the free throw line at the end of games.  When's the last time Marquette had somebody who shot above 90% from the free throw line?  Novak?
Title: Re: Christopherson...seriously?
Post by: MU B2002 on January 27, 2012, 09:24:42 PM
 I never said he wasn't a good player just simply found it interesting that they wouldn't give him the courtesy of a photo.  Considering all you have mentioned (all conference, scoring, etc.)
Title: Re: Christopherson...seriously?
Post by: MU B2002 on January 28, 2012, 09:31:46 AM
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Title: Re: Christopherson...seriously?
Post by: Hoopaloop on January 28, 2012, 10:38:29 AM
Quote from: dwaderoy2004 on January 27, 2012, 03:51:35 PM
Well, he WAS an all conference player, last year, when the big 12 was more like #3 or #4, and Iowa St. was really bad (3-13 in conference).  And can you produce any quote from a coach in the big 12 saying that Christopherson is a good defender?

I don't even really disagree with your premise...I think he would have been a useful player for us.  But your statements are 1) incorrect and 2) unsupported.

ADDED: The coaches actually thought so highly of him that they failed to put him on the preseason all conference first team or honorable mention after being given the honor last season.

Did I say something wrong?  Looks like my response to you was deleted but I am not certain why.

The coaches in the Big 12 for the preseason only pick honorable mention and first team.  A total of 12 players.  The actual awards for the Big 12 for all-conference are 29 selections.  A first team, second team, third team (accounting or 18 players) and then honorable mention.  Christopherson not making the preseason selections is not surprising.  Nor would it be surprising if he makes the final list at the end of the year because there are many more actual awards than the preseason selections account for.

I don't think my comments are incorrect because he is a reigning all-conference player.  The new team isn't selected until the season is over. 
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