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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: macman320 on October 07, 2011, 07:01:25 AM
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Anyone know anything about Thomas Hamilton from Illinois, Class of 2013? He's a top 30 overall, center, and has offers from Illinois and MSU according to rivals? Is this a guy we are interested in, or should be?
Thanks
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We're interested, at least. I've heard that Benford has watched him. Not sure what priority level he is. The ideal is for a big and a PG with our last two 2012-13 scholarships. But if a top-20 type switchable drops into your lap, do you pass? I don't think so.
EDIT: I was thinking of Paul White, but I know we've at least watched Hamilton.
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Illinois fans feel that they have him locked up.
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Illinois fans feel that they have him locked up.
Yes, his father played and was a star there.
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Yes, his father played and was a star there.
His father was anything but a star there. He was a very highly rated disappointment.
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His father was anything but a star there. He was a very highly rated disappointment.
I'll agree with that, used wrong term, but the fact his father went there will help them.
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We're interested, at least. I've heard that Benford has watched him. Not sure what priority level he is. The ideal is for a big and a PG with our last two 2012-13 scholarships. But if a top-20 type switchable drops into your lap, do you pass? I don't think so.
EDIT: I was thinking of Paul White, but I know we've at least watched Hamilton.
I beleive those that feel we will sign a big and a PG with the next 2 openings are using flawed logic. We will have 3 pgs in the program next year. We will have two the year after that and they will both be sophomores. Unless, Buzz decides throughout the course of this year that D. Wilson is simply not a BE PG and that TJ Taylor rated a 94 on ESPN can no longer get it done he will not necessarily need a PG. Not to mention it can be more difficult to bring in a big time Frosh PG when there are 2 sophs on the roster.
My guess is Buzz signs at leat one 4-5, and a 2-4 with the other. MY hope is for a 6'8"+ player this year and kendrick Nunn for next.
But then i could be wrong he might sign two PG's.
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Wasn't Thomas Hamilton a former president?
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I beleive those that feel we will sign a big and a PG with the next 2 openings are using flawed logic. We will have 3 pgs in the program next year. We will have two the year after that and they will both be sophomores. Unless, Buzz decides throughout the course of this year that D. Wilson is simply not a BE PG and that TJ Taylor rated a 94 on ESPN can no longer get it done he will not necessarily need a PG. Not to mention it can be more difficult to bring in a big time Frosh PG when there are 2 sophs on the roster.
My guess is Buzz signs at leat one 4-5, and a 2-4 with the other. MY hope is for a 6'8"+ player this year and kendrick Nunn for next.
But then i could be wrong he might sign two PG's.
Pretty exciting to thing about TJ Taylor ( I believe about 6'4" and 225) and a guy like Deonte Burton (6'5 - 235lbs) being on the floor. Add in Derrick Wilson and his physique, and MU will be ultra physical/muscular on the perimeter. Combine them with a few greyhounds like Jamil Wilson, Juan Anderson, Vander, Jamail...and then Devante anchoring the middle - pretty darn physical and diverse team.
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Yes, his father played and was a star there.
Was his dad Lowell Hamilton? I remember he played for Providence St. Mel when I was in high school. Make me feel old.
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Yes, his father played and was a star there.
Did he even play there? I thought he was recruited there, but was academically ineligble and left.
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I think his dad was Tommy Hamilton - who played with Rashard Griffin (Madison) at Chicago King ages ago.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Hamilton_%28basketball%29
http://www.chicagonewscoop.org/a-basketball-program-rises-by-dipping-lower/
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I think his dad was Tommy Hamilton - who played with Rashard Griffin (Madison) at Chicago King ages ago.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Hamilton_%28basketball%29
http://www.chicagonewscoop.org/a-basketball-program-rises-by-dipping-lower/
That's him. He was huge and never got his weight under control. Won state while at King...two seven footers on a high school team was ridiculous. Signed with Illinois, was ineligible so never played. Played in the NBA for a handful of games with Boston and Houston.
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Buzz has said he wants a PG each class, but I wouldn't be surprised to see a switchable for 2012. It really comes down to if Buzz believes Wilson and Taylor (or others) can handle the point when Cadougan graduates. We are still in on switchables for 2012.
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i understand that he has stated he wants a 1 and a 5 in every class, but at the end of the day that is not practical. technically, that would leave him with 4 1's , 4 5's and 5 players for the 2-4. not gonna happen. If derrick shows well and TJ shows well at JUCO really no need for a PG until 2014 class.
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Wasn't Thomas Hamilton a former president?
You're confusing him with Alexander Jefferson.
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You're confusing him with Alexander Jefferson.
C'mon, keep the politics on the Superbar!
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i understand that he has stated he wants a 1 and a 5 in every class, but at the end of the day that is not practical. technically, that would leave him with 4 1's , 4 5's and 5 players for the 2-4. not gonna happen. If derrick shows well and TJ shows well at JUCO really no need for a PG until 2014 class.
I will guarantee Buzz recruits a point guard in the 2013 class. I'm not sold on TJ Taylor being a full time point guard at this level especially since he'll have to defend the position and with Cadougan graduating in 2013, Buzz will add one.
If it was up to me I'd add Aaron Durley to this class and let him develop behind Otule and Gardner and then add a point guard to go with Deonte Burton in 2013.
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C'mon, keep the politics on the Superbar!
What political point of view was expressed? You, sir, do not know the difference between politics and history!
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I will guarantee Buzz recruits a point guard in the 2013 class. I'm not sold on TJ Taylor being a full time point guard at this level especially since he'll have to defend the position and with Cadougan graduating in 2013, Buzz will add one.
If it was up to me I'd add Aaron Durley to this class and let him develop behind Otule and Gardner and then add a point guard to go with Deonte Burton in 2013.
I expect a big and a point, but what if a can't-pass switchable comes along? Do you turn down a Keith Frazier or Brannen Greene if they want to come?
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I'm probably different than Buzz, but yes I do target positions and want certain positions stocked correctly and I think you need 4 out of the 13 scholarships to go to center types and point guards.
In the end it doesn't matter what I think and I could be off base with Aaron Durley or anyone else in this class. The coaches have seen these guys work out and will hopefully make the best decision for the program.
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I'm hoping but not relying on Mayo/D.Wilson and/or TJ Taylor to step into the PG spot. It sounds as if Buzz is constantly looking for PG's in each class just like he said he would. Finding quality PG's are not easy to come by though. I have a really good feeling about TJ Taylor. It seems that some on here forget how highly regarded he was coming out of HS. Here is a link to an interview when he was still with OKlahoma...which i apologize considering I'm sure it's already been posted.
http://www.soonersports.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/082510aad.html (http://www.soonersports.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/082510aad.html)
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What political point of view was expressed? You, sir, do not know the difference between politics and history!
You sir, do not understand satire.
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C'mon, keep the politics on the Superbar!
Where is Aaron Burr in this recruitment?
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Where is Aaron Burr in this recruitment?
I believe he committed to play for Syracuse so he could play in the ACC
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For anyone who thinks McKay committing means we're done for 2013...
Roy Schmidt @prepbullseye: Can finally confirm that not only has Marquette offered 6'9 2013 PF Tommy Hamilton but r currently in top 3 along w/ Arizona & Michigan St.
Seems a likely top-20 player, Hamilton is very, very good. Would improve our length even more on a team in 2013-14 with 5 guys at 6'7" or taller.
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Seems a likely top-20 player, Hamilton is very, very good. Would improve our length even more on a team in 2013-14 with 5 guys at 6'7" or taller.
Top 20 in Illinois.
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Saw him play twice this spring on the Mac Irvin team. He looked bad in the first game and was about 0-8 from three. Second game he played inside more and had a much better game with a lot of dunks and drop step moves to the basket. He's a great athlete and has a college ready body so it's not hard to believe he's being looked at by some top schools. Would be a great sign.
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Top 20 in Illinois.
Nope he is a McDonald all American caliber player
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Rated 45 in the Rivals 150. Interesting to see Kendrick Nunn up to 22. What ever happened with him he seemed set on MU.
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I assume he stepped back to explore his options and MU moved on. Can't wait forever and miss out on other quality players.
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Nope he is a McDonald all American caliber player
Rated 45 in the Rivals 150
Don't believe everything you read.
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Yes, his father played and was a star there.
As Lenny's Tap has pointed out Thomas Hamilton was not a star at Illinois.
I'll agree with that, used wrong term, but the fact his father went there will help them.
Thomas Hamilton , in fact, never played for Illinois as he was academically ineligible, and transferred to Pitt where he also never played. So he neither starred, nor sucked as a college basketball player, he was a no show.
I'm skeptical that that result will give Illinois much of a leg up in recruiting.
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I beleive those that feel we will sign a big and a PG with the next 2 openings are using flawed logic. We will have 3 pgs in the program next year. We will have two the year after that and they will both be sophomores. Unless, Buzz decides throughout the course of this year that D. Wilson is simply not a BE PG and that TJ Taylor rated a 94 on ESPN can no longer get it done he will not necessarily need a PG. Not to mention it can be more difficult to bring in a big time Frosh PG when there are 2 sophs on the roster.
My guess is Buzz signs at leat one 4-5, and a 2-4 with the other. MY hope is for a 6'8"+ player this year and kendrick Nunn for next.
But then i could be wrong he might sign two PG's.
A slight correction, if your talking Derrick Wilson and TJ Taylor, they will both be juniors the year after next, and Duane Wilson will be a freshman, so we will have three point guards then. Your point that Buzz would necessarily be looking for a PG with the next two openings not being true, still holds.
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I think his dad was Tommy Hamilton - who played with Rashard Griffin (Madison) at Chicago King ages ago.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Hamilton_%28basketball%29
http://www.chicagonewscoop.org/a-basketball-program-rises-by-dipping-lower/
Rashard Griffith.
The once-heralded center of the future at Wisky.
Couldn't earn a cup of coffee in the League after being drafted by YOUR Milwaukee Bucks.
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Wasn't Thomas Hamilton a former president?
I think the guy you're referring to was the first Secretary of the Treasury, and was called Alexander Hamilton. At least that's what my cabinet members trading cards tell me.
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You're confusing him with Alexander Jefferson.
I'm betting 90% miss your clever little joke.
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What political point of view was expressed? You, sir, do not know the difference between politics and history!
You should go all Aaron Burr on his ass!
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I will guarantee Buzz recruits a point guard in the 2013 class. I'm not sold on TJ Taylor being a full time point guard at this level especially since he'll have to defend the position and with Cadougan graduating in 2013, Buzz will add one.
If it was up to me I'd add Aaron Durley to this class and let him develop behind Otule and Gardner and then add a point guard to go with Deonte Burton in 2013.
That ship has sailed to TCU.
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Don't believe everything you read.
Agreed, he's ranked on size, not skills. Having a famous father, and playing at Whitney Young provide him with a much higher profile then he would otherwise have. Still for a developmental big guy, not too shabby.
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Murs...
You posted five times in a row on this post, has to be record.
Also has to be a record for quoting 4ever all the way from 10/7/11.
Good work today.
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Murs...
You posted five times in a row on this post, has to be record.
Also has to be a record for quoting 4ever all the way from 10/7/11.
Good work today.
Very busy last October, and Mary was out this a.m.
I thought that this was a new thread. I was wondering how so much got posted in such a short time, thanks for the heads up.
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Ya gotta forgive Murray as he suffers from Half-Heimers.
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FWIW, the proud Whitney Young/MU alum, Cordell Henry, worked out with Hamilton's WY teammate Jahlil Okafor back on May 29ish:
"cordell henry @cdell112
Had a great workout with the #1 sophmore in USA, @jahprobound. 6'11'' skilled big man with all the tools. I killed his abs lol. Great kid!!"
Some video from Whitney Young (Hamilton, Okafor, White) vs Neuqua Valley at the Riverside-Brookfield Summer Shootout:
http://www.highschoolcube.com/tournaments/10th-annual-riverside-brookfield-summer-shootout/video/10th-annual-riverside-brookfield-summer-shootout-whitney-young-vs-neuqua-valley-203339
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Very busy last October, and Mary was out this a.m.
I thought that this was a new thread. I was wondering how so much got posted in such a short time, thanks for the heads up.
If the wife is out, Scoop is glad to tear you away from wanktube.
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"cordell henry @cdell112
Had a great workout with the #1 sophmore in USA, @jahprobound. 6'11'' skilled big man with all the tools. I killed his abs lol."
no h***?
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Illinois fans feel that they have him locked up.
Of course, Illinois fans thought they had Isaac Chew locked up, too.