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Title: Jeff Goodman says MU in Maui in 2012
Post by: Sir Lawrence on July 07, 2011, 05:52:34 PM
From his twitter feed:

https://twitter.com/#!/GoodmanCBS

Source told CBSSports.com that Maui 2012 field is UNC, Texas, Butler, Marquette, Illinois, USC, Mississippi State and Chaminade.

Title: Re: Jeff Goodman says MU in Maui in 2012
Post by: Shanunu on July 07, 2011, 05:58:35 PM
That's quite an impressive lineup. Huge step up from the Paradise Jam this year.
Title: Re: Jeff Goodman says MU in Maui in 2012
Post by: nyg on July 07, 2011, 06:19:07 PM
It is also a nice recruiting aspect.  That is a loaded field. 
Title: Re: Jeff Goodman says MU in Maui in 2012
Post by: Mr. Nielsen on July 07, 2011, 07:20:48 PM
This really sucks for my wife and I.
Todd Rosiak reported last year, that MU was going be in the 76st Classic in Anaheim in 2012. We were planning on going to see MU on Turkey Day, Friday and Sunday. Plus, on Saturday we were going to the Notre Dame-USC football game.

L'ville dropped out of Maui and MU took the place. That is the best move for MU. Just sucks for me.  :'(
Title: Re: Jeff Goodman says MU in Maui in 2012
Post by: 🏀 on July 07, 2011, 08:22:14 PM
I want Illinois sooooo bad.
Title: Re: Jeff Goodman says MU in Maui in 2012
Post by: NersEllenson on July 07, 2011, 08:31:40 PM
Does Butler have any talent on the roster for the 2012 season?  I just can't see Butler continuing to play at a high level, or having Mack, Hayward, Howard kind of talent.  Stevens can coach but you need some horses too - think Butler will be outclassed in this awesome field..
Title: Re: Jeff Goodman says MU in Maui in 2012
Post by: Mr. Nielsen on July 07, 2011, 08:36:18 PM
Quote from: Ners on July 07, 2011, 08:31:40 PM
Does Butler have any talent on the roster for the 2012 season?  I just can't see Butler continuing to play at a high level, or having Mack, Hayward, Howard kind of talent.  Stevens can coach but you need some horses too - think Butler will be outclassed in this awesome field..
Not that I disagree with. Who had them in the title game again last year or maybe even in the dance.

UConn had a huge Maui run this past season. I guess I'm say anything can happen.
Title: Re: Jeff Goodman says MU in Maui in 2012
Post by: Marqus Howard on July 07, 2011, 08:38:41 PM
Quote from: marqptm on July 07, 2011, 08:22:14 PM
I want Illinois sooooo bad.

I'd rather have UNC...
Title: Re: Jeff Goodman says MU in Maui in 2012
Post by: 🏀 on July 07, 2011, 08:49:32 PM
Quote from: TrueBlueAndGold on July 07, 2011, 08:38:41 PM
I'd rather have UNC...

In the title game.
Title: Re: Jeff Goodman says MU in Maui in 2012
Post by: shoothoops on July 07, 2011, 11:09:00 PM
Butler is recruiting well.  They will be good for a while.

Good event for Marquette.
Title: Re: Jeff Goodman says MU in Maui in 2012
Post by: copious1218 on July 07, 2011, 11:51:33 PM
Quote from: mupanther on July 07, 2011, 07:20:48 PM
This really sucks for my wife and I.
Todd Rosiak reported last year, that MU was going be in the 76st Classic in Anaheim in 2012. We were planning on going to see MU on Turkey Day, Friday and Sunday. Plus, on Saturday we were going to the Notre Dame-USC football game.

L'ville dropped out of Maui and MU took the place. That is the best move for MU. Just sucks for me.  :'(

Why did LVille pull out (insert pitino joke here)?
Title: Re: Jeff Goodman says MU in Maui in 2012
Post by: NersEllenson on July 08, 2011, 12:06:30 AM
Quote from: mupanther on July 07, 2011, 08:36:18 PM
Not that I disagree with. Who had them in the title game again last year or maybe even in the dance.

UConn had a huge Maui run this past season. I guess I'm say anything can happen.

Good point - I certainly didn't think they'd do much of anything in the NCAA - as they struggled to win the Horizon league. 

Quote from: shoothoops on July 07, 2011, 11:09:00 PM
Butler is recruiting well.  They will be good for a while.

Good event for Marquette.
Thanks for the thoughts on Butler recruiting...certainly should be a great event to be a part of
Title: Re: Jeff Goodman says MU in Maui in 2012
Post by: Rollout-the-Barrel on July 08, 2011, 05:58:09 AM
Quote from: mupanther on July 07, 2011, 07:20:48 PM
This really sucks for my wife and I.
Todd Rosiak reported last year, that MU was going be in the 76st Classic in Anaheim in 2012. We were planning on going to see MU on Turkey Day, Friday and Sunday. Plus, on Saturday we were going to the Notre Dame-USC football game.

L'ville dropped out of Maui and MU took the place. That is the best move for MU. Just sucks for me.  :'(
Crap! Sucks for my family as well. Was going to do a Disneyland trip combined with Anaheim tourney next year. That's another reason for me to dislike pitino.
Title: Re: Jeff Goodman says MU in Maui in 2012
Post by: mu_hilltopper on July 08, 2011, 10:50:31 AM
Great news.  Now the question becomes .. can my then 4.5 year old make it 9 hours on a plane to Maui?

Wonder if MU will have a charter from MKE.
Title: Re: Jeff Goodman says MU in Maui in 2012
Post by: 4everwarriors on July 08, 2011, 11:28:00 AM
Sure, just make sure you buy him a seat within the aircraft.
Title: Re: Jeff Goodman says MU in Maui in 2012
Post by: Brewtown Andy on July 08, 2011, 01:52:47 PM
Quote from: marqptm on July 07, 2011, 08:22:14 PM
I want Illinois sooooo bad.

If Goodman's list is the order in which the tournament brain trust are currently seeding the teams, Marquette would be playing Illinois.

Things can obviously change, though...
Title: Re: Jeff Goodman says MU in Maui in 2012
Post by: 77ncaachamps on July 08, 2011, 01:55:53 PM
Quote from: Brewtown Andy on July 08, 2011, 01:52:47 PM
If Goodman's list is the order in which the tournament brain trust are currently seeding the teams, Marquette would be playing Illinois.

Things can obviously change, though...

The battle for Chitown recruiting. We need to win out.
Title: Re: Jeff Goodman says MU in Maui in 2012
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on July 08, 2011, 02:10:30 PM
Quote from: Ners on July 07, 2011, 08:31:40 PM
Does Butler have any talent on the roster for the 2012 season?  I just can't see Butler continuing to play at a high level, or having Mack, Hayward, Howard kind of talent.  Stevens can coach but you need some horses too - think Butler will be outclassed in this awesome field..

They will be real solid. Their big man Andrew Smith will be a senior, Marshall who the lenghty Forward from this years team will be a junior and a couple of their shooters from this past years team will be juniors and seniors.

Mix that with a solid recruiting class and possibly that guy from Arkanasas and they will be good.
Title: Re: Jeff Goodman says MU in Maui in 2012
Post by: wojosdojo on July 09, 2011, 01:02:48 PM
Quote from: marqptm on July 07, 2011, 08:22:14 PM
I want Illinois sooooo bad.

Sign me up too!!!
Title: Re: Jeff Goodman says MU in Maui in 2012
Post by: mu_hilltopper on July 09, 2011, 07:37:04 PM
Anyone know .. did MU have a charter plane (for fans) from MKE to Maui, last time we were in the tourny?
Title: Re: Jeff Goodman says MU in Maui in 2012
Post by: reinko on July 12, 2011, 01:21:58 PM
Yumma Humma.  Just looked up flights from Boston to Maui over Thanksgiving (2011, because 2012 is not available yet) for a ballpark figure.  A cool $1700, with 3 flights each leg, and each leg lasting around 15 hours...
Title: Re: Jeff Goodman says MU in Maui in 2012
Post by: mu_hilltopper on July 12, 2011, 03:28:42 PM
3 flights, each leg lasting 15 hours?  As your travel agent not to route you Boston to Anchorage to Beijing to Maui.
Title: Re: Jeff Goodman says MU in Maui in 2012
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on July 12, 2011, 04:44:45 PM
Quote from: reinko on July 12, 2011, 01:21:58 PM
Yumma Humma.  Just looked up flights from Boston to Maui over Thanksgiving (2011, because 2012 is not available yet) for a ballpark figure.  A cool $1700, with 3 flights each leg, and each leg lasting around 15 hours...

it would be cheaper to FedEx yourself.  probably quicker too.
Title: Re: Jeff Goodman says MU in Maui in 2012
Post by: Mayor McCheese on July 12, 2011, 10:15:22 PM
Butler has been in 2 National Championship games in a row... for some odd reason, I see recruits will want to play for Brad Stevens - he is the best young coach in the game right now.
Title: Re: Jeff Goodman says MU in Maui in 2012
Post by: rocky_warrior on July 13, 2011, 12:44:45 AM
Quote from: reinko on July 12, 2011, 01:21:58 PM
Yumma Humma.  Just looked up flights from Boston to Maui over Thanksgiving (2011, because 2012 is not available yet) for a ballpark figure.  A cool $1700, with 3 flights each leg, and each leg lasting around 15 hours...

Tell you what, I'll sell you the flights I just found for a cool $1400 :)
Title: Re: Jeff Goodman says MU in Maui in 2012
Post by: brewcity77 on July 13, 2011, 07:20:35 AM
With this taking up three 2012 games, then adding in Wisconsin, LSU, UW-M, and UW-GB, I hope Broeker and company try to schedule top-200 buys for most of the rest of the games. That'll likely have at least four tourney teams, no need to try to get more unless they're either auto-bids that we get lucky to schedule or maybe one neutral court like Washington this year.
Title: Re: Jeff Goodman says MU in Maui in 2012
Post by: MUMac on July 13, 2011, 08:05:48 AM
Quote from: brewcity77 on July 13, 2011, 07:20:35 AM
With this taking up three 2012 games, then adding in Wisconsin, LSU, UW-M, and UW-GB, I hope Broeker and company try to schedule top-200 buys for most of the rest of the games. That'll likely have at least four tourney teams, no need to try to get more unless they're either auto-bids that we get lucky to schedule or maybe one neutral court like Washington this year.

Maui is an exempt tournament.  It counts as 2 games in a 29 game regular season (actually, the rule states either 29 games or 27 games plus one in-season tournament with no more than 4 maximum games allowed).  MU has 5 other nonconference games to schedule, in additon to the 4 you mentioned above.
Title: Re: Jeff Goodman says MU in Maui in 2012
Post by: Mr. Nielsen on July 13, 2011, 12:14:56 PM
I would say 6 games to get to a total of 31 games.
Title: Re: Jeff Goodman says MU in Maui in 2012
Post by: MUMac on July 13, 2011, 12:32:31 PM
Quote from: mupanther on July 13, 2011, 12:14:56 PM
I would say 6 games to get to a total of 31 games.

The only way they can get to 31 games is if the exempt tournament they play in is 4 games.  The rule states either 29 games or 27 games plus an exempt tournament with up to a maximum of 4 games.  The BE slate is 18 games.  Brew mentioned 4 games plus Maui.  That allows 5 other nonconference games to be scheduled.

http://www.momentummedia.com/articles/cm/cm1406/bbtwoinfour.htm (http://www.momentummedia.com/articles/cm/cm1406/bbtwoinfour.htm)

"Under the new rules, teams can play either 29 regular season games or 27 regular season games plus no more than four games in one multi-team tournament for a maximum of 31 games. Conference and other postseason tournaments do not count against the limit. Before the change, teams were limited to 28 games, with exempt multi-team events counting as one of those 28 contests."

http://www.bloggingthebracket.com/2009/9/24/1052438/spreading-the-wealth-the (http://www.bloggingthebracket.com/2009/9/24/1052438/spreading-the-wealth-the)

"Before we look at exempt events, here's Men's Division I basketball scheduling for Dummies.  The NCAA lets teams play 29 regular season games.  However, schools can up that number to 30 or 31 by playing in an exempt event (27 single regular season games, plus 3 or 4 in the event)."

Title: Re: Jeff Goodman says MU in Maui in 2012
Post by: Mr. Nielsen on July 13, 2011, 03:49:32 PM
I didn't even read what you wrote, but it will be 31 total games. It always is!

Old Spice, Par. Jam, Maui are all 3 games. Why would next year be any different than this seaon or in 2009?
Title: Re: Jeff Goodman says MU in Maui in 2012
Post by: spartan3186 on July 13, 2011, 04:11:21 PM
Quote from: mupanther on July 13, 2011, 03:49:32 PM
I didn't even read what you wrote, but it will be 31 total games. It always is!

Old Spice, Par. Jam, Maui are all 3 games. Why would next year be any different than this seaon or in 2009?

Paradise Jam in 4 games. We are playing Norfolk St as part of that event, but in Milwaukee.

When we played in Maui in 2007 we only played 30 games

http://wiki.muscoop.com/doku.php/men_s_basketball/2007
Title: Re: Jeff Goodman says MU in Maui in 2012
Post by: MUMac on July 13, 2011, 06:53:06 PM
Quote from: mupanther on July 13, 2011, 03:49:32 PM
I didn't even read what you wrote, but it will be 31 total games. It always is!

Old Spice, Par. Jam, Maui are all 3 games. Why would next year be any different than this seaon or in 2009?


Don't let facts get in your way.   Maybe you should have actually read it before making that post.  ::)

PS  The last time MU was in Maui we played 30 games.  '09/10 was also 30 games.  That is because Maui and Old Spice are only 3 game tournaments, not 4.
Title: Re: Jeff Goodman says MU in Maui in 2012
Post by: Mr. Nielsen on July 13, 2011, 07:12:12 PM
Ok, then there might/will be 30 games. I was at work, didn't have time to read your book. Think it's funny, since I've hit every date for MU's non-league games on the nose. Ya, what do I know.  ::)

Don't forget the Maui, starting this season is playing games in the US. So, MU might have 4 total in Maui. 1 at the BC and 3 in Maui.

I guess we will find out in Sept. 2012  ;)

Title: Re: Jeff Goodman says MU in Maui in 2012
Post by: brewcity77 on July 13, 2011, 07:33:55 PM
Quote from: mupanther on July 13, 2011, 07:12:12 PM
Don't forget the Maui, starting this season is playing games in the US. So, MU might have 4 total in Maui. 1 at the BC and 3 in Maui.

Or we might have a game on the road. First it'd depend on how many games they had, if it was 2 pre-Maui games or 4. I'd guess UNC and Texas would be certain home teams. Butler and Chaminade would probably have to play road games if they were included. That leaves Marquette, Illinois, USC, and Mississippi State with the potential to host games. I wouldn't consider us a lock out of those four teams. If there were four games, I'd say Illinois and us should be the other hosts, but again, no guarantee.
Title: Re: Jeff Goodman says MU in Maui in 2012
Post by: MUMac on July 13, 2011, 07:39:44 PM
Congrats on getting the dates correct.  I guess you missed, though, the NCAA change in  2006 with regards to scheduling and exempt tournaments, so I guess you do not know it all.    ;)

I have not seen exactly how Maui will fill out the brackets.  I know there are 3 formats, but I have not seen how it schedules out.  If it does become a 4 game tournament, then MU will play 31 games.  That, though, is the only way it become 31 next year.  Not because "It always is!".   ;)
Title: Re: Jeff Goodman says MU in Maui in 2012
Post by: Mr. Nielsen on July 13, 2011, 08:32:34 PM
My bag, I look in 2009, it was 30 games. :-[

Ya, well let's get things set for 2011-12 season.

I was going to see MU play in 2012 76st classic in Anaheim, but I don't blame MU for dropping out and playing in Maui.
Title: Re: Jeff Goodman says MU in Maui in 2012
Post by: Mr. Nielsen on July 13, 2011, 08:39:06 PM
We don't know if MU & UWM will be playing in 2012. 2011 is the final year of the 5 year deal. Nothing has been signed yet for 2012.
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