http://twitter.com/WisBBYearbook/status/70538348036489216
2011 SF mervyn Lindsey
1 star 77 rating on ESPN
Unranked? At rivals
Quote from: socrplar125 on May 17, 2011, 12:51:34 PM
http://twitter.com/WisBBYearbook/status/70538348036489216
This will cause all sorts of headaches for many on this board. ESPN only rated him a 77 one star. Verballed to Texas Tech in April. Lefty shooter with decent range it appears.
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/64250/mervyn-lindsay
Seat next to Singleton on the bench... Red shirt?
I would think that with Faust on the market, and with Taylor/Ferguson coming in next year, that this is far from a certainty.
Lefty Shooter who has grown a few inches in the last year. If he is now 6'7" and growing, it could be interesting. Long arms. A little thin?
Quote from: MUfan12 on May 17, 2011, 01:01:12 PM
I would think that with Faust on the market, and with Taylor/Ferguson coming in next year, that this is far from a certainty.
Plus, you've got to wonder if Buzz would be in the business if swiping recruits out from under his friend, BCG.
"doesn't like to guard"
This information just doesn't make sense to me.
Quote from: Pakuni on May 17, 2011, 01:02:35 PM
Plus, you've got to wonder if Buzz would be in the business if swiping recruits out from under his friend, BCG.
Excellent point. Forgot about that factor as well. This kinda seems like Tony Kimbro part II. We read two or three times that he was signing with MU and it never happened. Could see this being the same type of deal.
Quote from: Slim on May 17, 2011, 01:02:45 PM
"doesn't like to guard"
This information just doesn't make sense to me.
And "doesn't have any signs of a mid-range game." So essentially he's a spot shooter who can't get to the basket who can't defend? Sure doesn't sound like a Buzz prospect.
Quote from: Bocephys on May 17, 2011, 01:05:06 PM
And "doesn't have any signs of a mid-range game." So essentially he's a spot shooter who can't get to the basket who can't defend? Sure doesn't sound like a Buzz prospect.
Sounds a lot like ZFFB in his Tuesday night game. :D
Quote from: ZiggysF*ckinFryBoy on May 17, 2011, 01:37:13 PM
Sounds a lot like ZFFB in his Tuesday night game. :D
Other than as a spot shooter, he actually makes baskets from time to time ...
Is this a sure thing, or just a rumor?
Quote from: msbjim on May 17, 2011, 01:49:35 PM
Is this a sure thing, or just a rumor?
Rumor right now.
A Texas Tech blog gave a run-down on the guy just last week: http://www.doubletnation.com/2011/5/12/2131414/texas-tech-basketball-position-preview-small-forward
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Merv Lindsay | 6-5/180 | Freshman
Lindsay is the latest commit for Texas Tech and after watching his video and reading a bit about his ESPN profile for a basketball program that is trying to pick itself back up off the bottom of the conference standings, I think that Lindsay is a good player that could transition into a good shooting guard or small forward for Texas Tech. Here's a bit from the aforementioned ESPN profile:
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Lindsay has grown a few inches in the last year and it appears he may not be done as he is a young looking prospect. His frame is outstanding with long arms and he has soft hands. The left-hander has a smooth stroke out to 22-feet, especially in a catch and shoot situation. In addition, he is an astute passer who can find the open man in the half court site.
He seems to favor being outside, which makes me think that he'd be a better shooting guard than small forward. Either way, he's a long, lean athlete. Surprise. My thought is that Lindsay should be redshirted and not see a minute of time this year. He's a project and I think that Petteway and Gotcher are better players, right now, over Lindsay. Give Lindsay time to develop and maybe he transitions into a true small forward if he keeps growing with an outside shot, that would be a tough matchup for a lot of opposing teams.
Kid's probably on the Mbao plan.
Bring him in for a year, see if he can hack it. If he can't tell him he should go elsewhere if he wants to play.
Quote from: Stone Cold on May 17, 2011, 01:58:05 PM
Kid's probably on the Mbao plan.
Bring him in for a year, see if he can hack it. If he can't tell him he should go elsewhere if he wants to play.
I miss how awkward Yous looked playing the top of the 1-3-1 zone press. Cracked me up every time.
Quote from: Bocephys on May 17, 2011, 02:00:00 PM
I miss how awkward Yous looked playing the top of the 1-3-1 zone press. Cracked me up every time.
Or when Buzz had to holler at him to start moving his arms when he was defending the guy inbounding the ball? lol
Quote from: Pakuni on May 17, 2011, 01:02:35 PM
Plus, you've got to wonder if Buzz would be in the business if swiping recruits out from under his friend, BCG.
Payback for when Buzz sent our potential walk on to Kentucky. He lasted one year at Kentucky.
Quote from: MUMac on May 17, 2011, 01:39:53 PM
Other than as a spot shooter, he actually makes baskets from time to time ...
tell you what, MUMac, you come ball with us. we're always looking for dudes. :-* I usually am good for 1 or 2 3's a night...
I'm figurin' you old farts can't run around playin' half court without collapsin' or poppin' a gasket.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Mervyn-Lindsay-126460
Not ranked at all by Rivals.
http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=8&c=1&nid=4955367
Not ranked at all by Scout either.
i figured there'd be way more outcry over this. this seems to me to be a waste of a scholarship.
Is this someone's attempt at humor? Too bad I don't have any eligibility left.
Could be the next Mbao. Could be the next Jimmy Butler.
I trust Buzz's opinion more than I trust the opinion of any posters on here regardless of what Scout and Rivals tell them.
Quote from: socrplar125 on May 17, 2011, 03:03:27 PM
i figured there'd be way more outcry over this. this seems to me to be a waste of a scholarship.
The only real way to waste a scholarship is to leave it open for a season.
Quote from: Skatastrophy on May 17, 2011, 03:23:52 PM
The only real way to waste a scholarship is to leave it open for a season.
You say that now, and I'd agree with you, but hell hath no fury like message board posters after an underachieving kid decides to transfer because he can't crack the rotation.
Quote from: Bocephys on May 17, 2011, 03:39:47 PM
You say that now, and I'd agree with you, but hell hath no fury like message board posters after an underachieving kid decides to transfer because he can't crack the rotation.
Agreed. Hopefully Buzz ignores the Internet, cause I think he's been doing a great job recruiting without our help :)
I'd rather bank it than use it on a 1-star perimeter kid, who'll most likely be buried deep on the depth chart.
Quote from: Skatastrophy on May 17, 2011, 03:43:15 PM
Agreed. Hopefully Buzz ignores the Internet, cause I think he's been doing a great job recruiting without our help :)
I don't know...I think he should consult Lenny, Ners and Marquette84 before he signs anyone.
Quote from: Boone on May 17, 2011, 03:54:26 PM
I'd rather bank it than use it on a 1-star perimeter kid, who'll most likely be buried deep on the depth chart.
Why? We have nothing to lose by offering it to this kid. Worst case he provides us a practice body and emergency depth and then we move on after a year when he decides to transfer. Best case he develops nicely due to an underlying skill that Buzz saw and liked and we get a solid contributor.
The grass isn't always greener, if we need a scholarship for a 2012 guy the administration will make sure we have on available by the time fall 2012 classes start.
If there's one thing I've learned about MU fans, it's this- He may not be very good now, but if he transfers after one year he becomes a huge loss.
Bank the scholly. 2012 is stacked, and 2013 is loaded in WI.
His game looks a lot like Jones - strictly a perimeter shooter.
We need some players that can come off the bench and hit threes. That Louisville player (Kuric ?) killed us by hitting 7(?) threes. That really sicked, because he had been in a slump the prior three games.
Quote from: bilsu on May 17, 2011, 05:01:20 PM
We need some players that can come off the bench and hit threes. That Louisville player (Kuric ?) killed us by hitting 7(?) threes. That really sicked, because he had been in a slump the prior three games.
Kuric was 2nd on the Cards in minutes played last season. ;)
I think you meant Mike Marra --- he had his career night against MU in the BET
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hn_49z9XfgE
Quote from: Jamil_toMU10 on May 17, 2011, 05:51:06 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hn_49z9XfgE
Just want to point out that a few of those shots were "reversed." So what seemed like a right handed layup, was actually a left-handed one.
weak video
Quote from: Bocephys on May 17, 2011, 03:39:47 PM
You say that now, and I'd agree with you, but hell hath no fury like message board posters after an underachieving kid decides to transfer because he can't crack the rotation.
I don't question Buzz when it comes to recruiting, because he has done an extremely good job. but I've also gotta agree with the previous statement. Outward appearance of giving a scholarship to a kid, and taking it away after a year because the kid isn't very good is questionable at best; much worse when the kid is rated so terribly by 3 services.
Quote from: Bocephys on May 17, 2011, 02:00:00 PM
I miss how awkward Yous looked playing the top of the 1-3-1 zone press. Cracked me up every time.
Agree. Even Manute knew what to do!
Judging by the content on the board the last few days, Warrior Nation is getting pretty impatient for some real news.
Is it official? Has he committed to MU?
Quote from: socrplar125 on May 17, 2011, 06:48:23 PM
I don't question Buzz when it comes to recruiting, because he has done an extremely good job. but I've also gotta agree with the previous statement. Outward appearance of giving a scholarship to a kid, and taking it away after a year because the kid isn't very good is questionable at best; much worse when the kid is rated so terribly by 3 services.
Really? You don't question Buzz on recruiting? Pretty forgiving standards.
Hope this isn't true with a lot of activity still left on the market.
Quote from: The Golden Avalanche on May 17, 2011, 08:14:28 PM
Really? You don't question Buzz on recruiting? Pretty forgiving standards.
Could you share with us your recruiting standards? If you were coach at MU, can you tell us your airtight recruiting methodologies that would result in an entire roster full of Top 100 players, that never transfer - particularily when you have virtually no coaching track record to go off? Thank you in advance for your input. I'll ensure it gets forwarded to the current coaching staff - so they can meet your standards.
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on May 17, 2011, 03:58:18 PM
I don't know...I think he should consult Lenny, Ners and Marquette84 before he signs anyone.
How could you leave willie off that list?
Still waiting to read a confirmation that this recruit actually committed and/or signed a LOI. Does anyone know?
Quote from: ringout on May 18, 2011, 10:03:23 AM
How could you leave willie off that list?
Good point - you'd need to balance 2 Pro-Buzz guys (Me and Lenny), with 2 anti-Buzz guys (84 and Willie).
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on May 17, 2011, 03:58:18 PM
I don't know...I think he should consult Lenny, Ners and Marquette84 before he signs anyone.
Ners and I have probably seconded guessed Buzz as rarely as anyone on this board. Don't know why you think we would want to be consulted. 84, Chicos, Willie, Groove and others will surely be up in arms if we sign this guy. Not me.
Quote from: msbjim on May 18, 2011, 10:25:32 AM
Still waiting to read a confirmation that this recruit actually committed and/or signed a LOI. Does anyone know?
He hasn't, and I'd be surprised if he did.
Read toward the end:
http://areacodesbasketball.blogspot.com/2011/05/san-diego-warriors-win-adidas-elite-8.html
"Star watch: Mervyn Lindsey from Inland was supposed to sign with Texas Tech University, but is rumored to sign with Marquette. Lindsey is a 6 foot 7 shooting guard from Moreno Valley, CA and was unstoppable this weekend."
This is the *exact* type of recruit you want with your last scholarship. He sounds like a late boomer and a late grower. I mean a 6'7" shooting guard??? Look, get him here...get him in the weight room...get him into practice for a year, and who knows what you might end up with. This is a kid that might have huge potential...don't worry about the rating.
As for banking this for next year, there are 12 months between now and then. During the Buzz-era, have we ever gone 12 months without some sort of decommit or a transfer? The roster is going to be fluid...I have no doubt that something will happen that will free up a scholarship...
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on May 18, 2011, 11:00:36 AM
This is the *exact* type of recruit you want with your last scholarship. He sounds like a late boomer and a late grower. I mean a 6'7" shooting guard??? Look, get him here...get him in the weight room...get him into practice for a year, and who knows what you might end up with. This is a kid that might have huge potential...don't worry about the rating.
As for banking this for next year, there are 12 months between now and then. During the Buzz-era, have we ever gone 12 months without some sort of decommit or a transfer? The roster is going to be fluid...I have no doubt that something will happen that will free up a scholarship...
agree completely. The rankings are meaningless. If the kid is willing to work hard to improve when he gets here, he is welcome.
I don't think you would ever want to bank 2, and that is how many extra we have. If he has grown 2 inch's in the last year maybe he has got a little more left? Even 6-8 would make him probably the 2nd tallest player on the team. I also like player's that are left handed? They seem a little harder to defend.
Also having a 6-7 player that is a good 3 point shooter is a plus, It spreads the floor.
I don't think rankings are meaningless, some people can be slightly overranked or underranked but in general they are a very good gauge. This is a gamble, if it was not, why doesnt he have lots of HM interest? MU has the only good staff in the country looking for talent? Roseboro was not highly rated? how did that turn out?
That is assuming he ends up at MU.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on May 18, 2011, 11:00:36 AM
This is the *exact* type of recruit you want with your last scholarship. He sounds like a late boomer and a late grower. I mean a 6'7" shooting guard???
There is also an interview with him from December that had him listed at 200 lbs. 6'7" and 200 some lbs is a lot different than the espn evaluation of 6'5" and 180. It has also been noted that he is young for his class. With Jimmy fresh on Buzz's mind, he may be thinking of some late bloomer opportunity...
Ratings aren't meaningless...but they are a series of snapshots...they don't really project a prospect's potential all that well. Compare and contrast JFB to EWill to show what the problems with rankings might be.
Quote from: socrplar125 on May 17, 2011, 03:03:27 PM
i figured there'd be way more outcry over this. this seems to me to be a waste of a scholarship.
Perhaps because it's hard to generate any real outrage over an unconfirmed report of a signing by a kid I would guess few or none of us ever heard of before yesterday, much less know enough to form an informed opinion. Declaring a signing a "waste of a scholarship" having never seen or even heard of a kid seems silly.
Also because Buzz has shown an ability to get quality players whom previously were unheard of around here (i.e. DJO) or vastly underrated (i.e. Jimmy Butler).
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on May 18, 2011, 11:25:03 AM
Ratings aren't meaningless...but they are a series of snapshots...they don't really project a prospect's potential all that well. Compare and contrast JFB to EWill to show what the problems with rankings might be.
Maybe I should have been more specific. For kids that are not in the upper echelon of recruits for a given year and are rarely seen and/or evaluated by the various services, they are pretty close to meaningless. Kids at that age can change a lot in a very brief period of time.
I will say that kids that stop growing early a more likely to be overrated and kids that grow well into college tend to be underrated, for a few reasons. 1)more height is almost always better in basketball. 2)Until you stop growing its much harder for your body to fill out and gain weight. 3)It seems like its easier to improve your skills when you are not growing 2-3 inch's per year. You tend to be a little clumsy during those periods.
Quote from: socrplar125 on May 17, 2011, 03:03:27 PM
i figured there'd be way more outcry over this. this seems to me to be a waste of a scholarship.
I figure Buzz knows more about this stuff than I do. So while I will question why he is doing something, I would never outcry over it.
Untill Todd Rosiak or MU puts it out, I'll take it with a grain of salt.
Is Lindsay the best we can do? Then we are sure slipping in recruiting. We must get a player we can count on. Bank the other schollie if we have two schollies.
Quote from: Earl Tatum on May 18, 2011, 02:46:25 PM
Is Lindsay the best we can do? Then we are sure slipping in recruiting. We must get a player we can count on. Bank the other schollie if we have two schollies.
Banking a schollie won't help the team this year. There's no reason not to give a young man with a high ceiling a chance. I mean, BCG was on the guy and now Buzz supposedly is? He can't be all bad.
Quote from: Earl Tatum on May 18, 2011, 02:46:25 PM
Is Lindsay the best we can do? Then we are sure slipping in recruiting. We must get a player we can count on. Bank the other schollie if we have two schollies.
Oh you must have seen him play. What are YOUR thoughts? Is this a second screen name for Willie???
Quote from: Skatastrophy on May 18, 2011, 03:03:15 PM
Banking a schollie won't help the team this year. There's no reason not to give a young man with a high ceiling a chance. I mean, BCG was on the guy and now Buzz supposedly is? He can't be all bad.
Agree completely. Buzz's job is always to win this year, not keep talking about our next year's recruiting class. How does banking a scholarship help us win this year? This kid has clearly shown something excellent to have legitimate schools offering him.
For a guy who doesn't pay a ton of attention to recruiting, just read a little bit about Mitch McGarry. MU any shot yet on him, or has he gotten too big?
Quote from: Eye on May 18, 2011, 04:08:18 PM
For a guy who doesn't pay a ton of attention to recruiting, just read a little bit about Mitch McGarry. MU any shot yet on him, or has he gotten too big?
Probably the latter, but MU was one of the first in the picture. That should keep them in it for awhile, I would think.
Lindsay is decent 2 year project, he is not that good, but would rather go after Bryant because of the upside since Faust went back to Maryland. WENT NEED A POWER FORWARD.
6-8 225. Think we are out of luck
Quote from: Bocephys on May 18, 2011, 03:16:19 PM
Agree completely. Buzz's job is always to win this year, not keep talking about our next year's recruiting class.
The only place on college basketball landscape where talking about next year's recruiting class trumps winning this year? Bloomington, and it's been that way for three years now.
QuoteThe only place on college basketball landscape where talking about next year's recruiting class trumps winning this year? Bloomington, and it's been that way for three years now.
Can we ever move on from this obsession? God, it is old and tired.
Quote from: Eye on May 18, 2011, 04:08:18 PM
For a guy who doesn't pay a ton of attention to recruiting, just read a little bit about Mitch McGarry. MU any shot yet on him, or has he gotten too big?
I know someone who has spoken with McGary - she said that his three favorites are Texas, Duke, and UNC. Texas is his dream school, but if any of those three offer to him they will likely have a big advantage (not that that's all that different from most recruits).
As of right now, none of those schools have offered, although they have seen him play.
Marquette was also one of the first schools that he visited and he seemed to like it.
Thanks gentlemen.
One of those schools is sure to offer now that he has blown up to 5 star status.
Anyone have any updates on the merv situation?
Quote from: MUcookie30 on May 18, 2011, 11:03:03 PM
Anyone have any updates on the merv situation?
This was posted recently:
http://lubbockonline.com/interact/blog-post/courtney-linehan/2011-05-18/lindsay-not-committed-texas-tech
Doesn't mention MU, but it seems more and more likely that he won't be playing for Texas Tech...
Quote from: NYWarrior on May 17, 2011, 05:16:53 PM
I think you meant <insert 3 point shooter here>--- he had his career night against MU i
Fixed it ;D
Quote from: Ruby on May 18, 2011, 05:27:00 PM
Can we ever move on from this obsession? God, it is old and tired.
No, he cannot.
Is there no recruiting news about anyone??????
Yeah, F*ckin' pulled his groin at Tuesday night hoops while on the pines. Should be on da DL for a couple of weeks.
Erik Williams got recruited to play for the Milwaukee Blast.
It seems that this blog and most of MU Scoop has bottomed out. It's time we all take a break for the summer. See you in September.
Quote from: jesmu84 on May 17, 2011, 12:51:34 PM
http://twitter.com/WisBBYearbook/status/70538348036489216
2011 SF mervyn Lindsey
1 star 77 rating on ESPN
Unranked? At rivals
[size=8]TWITTA TRACKA...
Quote from: @GoodmanCBSKansas freshman guard Merv Lindsay is transferring, source told CBSSports.
No idea if we'd have any interest, especially after he didn't do anything at KU, playing only 26 total minutes in 12 games (and only 10 minutes after the New Year), but when I saw his name pop up on Twitter, I thought it might be worth mentioning. I'm sure we have a number of names ahead of him, but Lindsey does have the body type of a Buzz kind of player, though not sure if he has the game.
...interest? I really hope not...
Bill Self recruited and signed a one star to Kansas and lived to tell the tale? He wouldn't get away with that here.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on April 16, 2012, 04:00:14 PM
Bill Self recruited and signed a one star to Kansas and lived to tell the tale? He wouldn't get away with that here.
My guess is Lindsey is a great athlete that just isn't polished. He put up some monster HS numbers, and the interest from Marquette, Kansas, and other high majors indicates he's got some ability, but he might just be better-suited for a mid-major program. I could see him really being a star at that level, but am not sold he'd beat out the more polished players he'd have to compete with at a program like ours or KU's.
Did Durley have interest from Kansas?
Quote from: brewcity77 on April 16, 2012, 04:24:33 PM
My guess is Lindsey is a great athlete that just isn't polished. He put up some monster HS numbers, and the interest from Marquette, Kansas, and other high majors indicates he's got some ability, but he might just be better-suited for a mid-major program. I could see him really being a star at that level, but am not sold he'd beat out the more polished players he'd have to compete with at a program like ours or KU's.
Lindsay is not a great athlete and that aspect of his game was the biggest question I had last spring when MU was involved.