Arkansas deal with Anderson not a done deal yet either, at least according to papers in Arkansas.
Meh, who cares. His name is media regurgitation at this point. Probably baseless speculation.
Is NC State still open? I lose track of all the openings.
^
Yes and their list is hilarious.....don't have a chance in the world of landing anyone they're hoping for.
Georgia Tech + Buzz Williams = hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
Buzz has a job at one of the top 16 programs in the country -- as proven on the court. No need to ever go elsewhere, at least until he retires from coaching.
Yellow Jackets coached by a Buzz...... ;)
Quote from: WarriorHal on March 21, 2011, 12:58:50 PM
Buzz has a job at one of the top 16 programs in the country -- as proven on the court. No need to ever go elsewhere, at least until he retires from coaching.
Jim Boeheim to Georgia Tech.
Quote from: WarriorHal on March 21, 2011, 12:58:50 PM
Buzz has a job at one of the top 16 programs in the country -- as proven on the court. No need to ever go elsewhere, at least until he retires from coaching.
Top 16 programs in the tournament. People get a bit off the reservation (sorry, seeing your avatar couldn't help it) when they translate where a team finishes in the tournament to where they are overall. Don't you think it would be a little strange to say a team that was 9th in it's conference is 16th in the nation?
The tournament is a separate entity....no one in their right mind is going to say VCU is one of the top 16 programs in the country when many experts didn't think they should have been invited to a tournament of 68 teams.
That being said, I'm enjoying it a ton. A lot of Big East hatred at work today. Then Senator Mitch McConnell drops in which was pretty wild. Weird day.
I think Buzz's celebration last night shows us this kind of stuff is simply media speculation without substantiation.
Pearl is out at Tn., so Buzz will be going there, or he will replace Spoelstra with the Heat!!!
Quote from: willie warrior on March 21, 2011, 01:22:37 PM
Pearl is out at Tn.,
Yup, Pearl gone in an announcement to come tomorrow most likely.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 21, 2011, 01:18:06 PM
Top 16 programs in the tournament. People get a bit off the reservation (sorry, seeing your avatar couldn't help it) when they translate where a team finishes in the tournament to where they are overall. Don't you think it would be a little strange to say a team that was 9th in it's conference is 16th in the nation? The tournament is a separate entity....no one in their right mind is going to say VCU is one of the top 16 programs in the country when many experts didn't think they should have been invited to a tournament of 68 teams.
No..to answer the bolded question...considering UCONN was the Number 9 team in the country with the same 9-9 record as MU (and head to head 1-1). And judging by the way VCU PUMMLED the Big 10 runner up Purdue who was ranked 13th...I'd have to say VCU is a Top 16 team in the country.
I could care less about regular season results if my team advances to the Sweet 16 each year...
Posts like these are those that make you lose credibility - but I guess you are so far beyond concern for that, as you know you have ZERO credibility with 80% of this board...what's adding another 10% of Scoopers who perceive you as a tool?
Actually, my sources say that Mr. Obama has tabbed Buzz to be Qaddafi's replacement in Libya. I guess we'll just have to enjoy this run and see what happens after the Final Four.
By the way, next year's Final Four is in New Orleans. How about a run back there next year!!! The Warriors and Buzz have New Orleans ties that the press will love...
Quote from: willie warrior on March 21, 2011, 01:22:37 PM
Pearl is out at Tn., so Buzz will be going there, or he will replace Spoelstra with the Heat!!!
Buzz to manage the Cubs per ESPN Sources
Quote from: redbirdwarrior on March 21, 2011, 01:34:49 PM
Actually, my sources say that Mr. Obama has tabbed Buzz to be Qaddafi's replacement in Libya. I guess we'll just have to enjoy this run and see what happens after the Final Four.
By the way, next year's Final Four is in New Orleans. How about a run back there next year!!! The Warriors and Buzz have New Orleans ties that the press will love...
While a final four re-do in New Orleans would be sweet, It would be even cooler to get to Houston this year with all the Texas ties on the team - Buzz, Benford, Monarch, Joe, Jimmy, Erik, Chris, Junior, and Jae.
Quote from: Ners on March 21, 2011, 01:28:21 PM
No..to answer the bolded question...considering UCONN was the Number 9 team in the country with the same 9-9 record as MU (and head to head 1-1). And judging by the way VCU PUMMLED the Big 10 runner up Purdue who was ranked 13th...I'd have to say VCU is a Top 16 team in the country.
I could care less about regular season results if my team advances to the Sweet 16 each year...
Posts like these are those that make you lose credibility - but I guess you are so far beyond concern for that, as you know you have ZERO credibility with 80% of this board...what's adding another 10% of Scoopers who perceive you as a tool?
On substantive posts, I agree with much of what you write Ners. On the other hand, I find myself agreeing with Chicos on some substantive posts as well. But let it the f*ck go will ya? Chicos could post that firetrucks are red and you'll accuse him of talking about I4. I'm in no way a Chicos apologist, but it's way old. If you want to make a counterpoint, do so but can it be done without the personal attacks with every one of your posts?
Ok, I'm off my soapbox. Fire Up Marquette.
Quote from: Lighthouse 84 on March 21, 2011, 01:52:20 PM
On substantive posts, I agree with much of what you write Ners. On the other hand, I find myself agreeing with Chicos on some substantive posts as well. But let it the f*ck go will ya? Chicos could post that firetrucks are red and you'll accuse him of talking about I4. I'm in no way a Chicos apologist, but it's way old. If you want to make a counterpoint, do so but can it be done without the personal attacks with everyone of your posts?
Ok, I'm off my soapbox. Fire Up Marquette.
+1,000,000,000,000,000,000
And Chicos bugs the crap out of me
Honestly, after hearing about the KLOVE call this morning. I really am not bothered by any of this useless speculation. Buzz calls up a Christian radio station to thank them for the service they provide? Can anyone imagine that flying at any public university, even in the South?
Marquette took a leap of faith by giving Buzz the reins. Buzz found a place where he fits perfectly after a lifetime of bouncing around from job to job. He will be here as long as we want him. For all the B-S-capades that that go on with other coaches around the country, we have one of the true, genuine coaches that wants to do right by his kids, right by the program, and for whom the only thing more important than the results on the court is the mission that Marquette serves, a mission that Buzz believes in.
I'll say it right now. He's going nowhere. Not this year. Not next year. Not in 5 years. And not in 10. Buzz will either be fired or he will retire from Marquette. Maybe we're not everyone's dream job, maybe for some Marquette isn't the "destination", but for Buzz, it is.
Marquette took a leap of faith when it hired Buzz. It's about damn time that the rest of us show some faith in him too.
Amen, Brother.
BrewCity77
I hope you are correct but think you have some wishful thinking. I did hear from two sources that Buzz does have some complaints with MU/city and they are real concerns. Not stirring the pot here and not saying that trouble is brewing. Just saying that Buzz has been great the last week and said and done a lot great things.
Quote from: Goose on March 21, 2011, 02:11:45 PM
BrewCity77
I hope you are correct but think you have some wishful thinking. I did hear from two sources that Buzz does have some complaints with MU/city and they are real concerns. Not stirring the pot here and not saying that trouble is brewing. Just saying that Buzz has been great the last week and said and done a lot great things.
What are the complaints?
"Buzz Williams possible to step out of the Marquette head coaching job for a chance to be on MTV's hit show America's Best Dance Crew (ABDC), Andy Katz reports mid monday afternoon."
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 21, 2011, 01:27:35 PM
Yup, Pearl gone in an announcement to come tomorrow most likely.
Good, lots of time to go golfin' now.
Quote from: Lighthouse 84 on March 21, 2011, 01:52:20 PM
On substantive posts, I agree with much of what you write Ners. On the other hand, I find myself agreeing with Chicos on some substantive posts as well. But let it the f*ck go will ya? Chicos could post that firetrucks are red and you'll accuse him of talking about I4. I'm in no way a Chicos apologist, but it's way old. If you want to make a counterpoint, do so but can it be done without the personal attacks with every one of your posts?
Ok, I'm off my soapbox. Fire Up Marquette.
I'll see what I can do 84 - and I don't rip everything the guy writes...and I don't care about I4 or Tom Crean. All that pisses me off about the guy is his double standards whereby he defends the hell out of Tom Crean...and
doesn't afford the coach of our team the same grace/latitude/respect. Go look at one of my first posts on Scoop...I talked about how people needed to have some gratitude for TC and the job he did..I still believe that...but after reading Chicos rants/slants against Buzz for the last 2.5 years..and how he gave Crean passes for everything and largely discredited the job Buzz had/has done...it just got REAL old..and thus some of the Buzz vs Crean threads I've gotten involved in..
I'm not starting thread topics here gloating about how right I am as a Buzz Williams fanboy..etc...I'm not trying to discount our Sweet 16 run by saying it is a "seperate season," and that we aren't a Top 16 team this year as a result of this run, etc. I mean who goes and recycles threads that make them look "right?" Wait...Chicos does. Who tries to rain on this years post season with the above garbage? Chicos. It is pathetic. end of rant.
What I heard would fall in line of almost any employee of a company. Basically a lack of appreciation and being thin skinned on some criticism. Only mention it because it probably is nothing if MU only gig open to him and could weigh in if choices need to be made.
I like Buzz and his schtick a lot. Find it very entertaining but believe some of the schtick might be just that. It is impossible to know a guy off sound bites. I will not assume I know Buzz because he called a Christian radio show or hugged his wife.
Quote from: Goose on March 21, 2011, 02:11:45 PM
BrewCity77
I hope you are correct but think you have some wishful thinking. I did hear from two sources that Buzz does have some complaints with MU/city and they are real concerns. Not stirring the pot here and not saying that trouble is brewing. Just saying that Buzz has been great the last week and said and done a lot great things.
ANYONE that prefaces an email with "not trying to stir the pot" is 100% trying to stir the pot.
I'm not trying to stir the pot, but rumors are that Goose's post is total b.s. Just sayin.
Niv--Believe what you want. I was responding to BrewCity77 and his post that Buzz will retire here. I hope he does. However I believe you have to believe in Santa Claus to think a guy is always 100% happy at current job and is willing to turn down more money if offered to him. Any time anyone says one thing in grey area they get jumped on. Seriously I really do not get it.
You are 100% incorrect on your post. Right now the last thing I want to do is be a buzz kill. I am enjoying the ride big time and hope it continues. However, I do have prepare myself of the possibility at just maybe Buzz does go back home.
Just sayin.
If anyone thinks that the Georgia Tech job is better than the Marquette job, please IM me. I have some beautiful pieces of land in the Florida Everglades for sale as well as a very, very nice bridge in Brooklyn, NY.
Quote from: Goose on March 21, 2011, 02:25:25 PM
What I heard would fall in line of almost any employee of a company. Basically a lack of appreciation and being thin skinned on some criticism. Only mention it because it probably is nothing if MU only gig open to him and could weigh in if choices need to be made.
I like Buzz and his schtick a lot. Find it very entertaining but believe some of the schtick might be just that. It is impossible to know a guy off sound bites. I will not assume I know Buzz because he called a Christian radio show or hugged his wife.
Hmmm, not sure this is detailed enough to be called "concerns about MU/city". Pretty vague, insignificant stuff.
Quote from: Niv Berkowitz on March 21, 2011, 02:27:57 PM
ANYONE that prefaces an email with "not trying to stir the pot" is 100% trying to stir the pot.
I'm not trying to stir the pot, but rumors are that Goose's post is total b.s. Just sayin.
I'm not trying to stir the pot, but Goose told me yesterday that Buzz Williams is "in over his head" in the Big East.
Hours later, he outcoached (yeah, I said it) the winningnest coach in Big East history.
Again, not trying to stir the pot.
Just sayin.
Pakuni--You love to pick and chose what you quote. Buzz Williams said he should not be the coach at MU based on the coaching talent in BE. On the surface he was and is in over his head. I am nuts or idiot for stated exactly what the coach said. Let me guess he was being sly with that comment.
He has delivered the goods this week and truthfully I am on cloud nine. However, I am not going to jump up and down and yell Buzz beat another HOF coach. When you have 10-15 games a year against HOF coaches you are going to win sometimes.
You guys win. I will keep my mouth shut and go back to watching and not posting unless I can 100% agree on how great everything is all the time. Not sure why a web site with one opinion is interesting, but guess I am in minority.
FYI--I might be the only guy on here with an opinion that actually wants to be wrong. Guys on here pull back their posts from months ago to prove how smart they are. I want to be the dumbest guy on here and have it rubbed in my face that these points are flat out wrong:
1. Buzz could possibly take another job for money or going closer to home.
2. That Buzz has a lot to learn as a game coach to compete year in and year out in BE.
3. That being 4 seed gives you a better chance for FF than being an 11 seed.
Until proven otherwise I will politely watch from the sidelines as the KoolAid is sucked down. Funny thing is I have posted the following:
1. We are an elite program
2. We are a destination job.
3. High level confidence in team going into tourney
4. I really do like Buzz and hope he stays.
Just sayin
Goose, you doth protest too much.
Talking about Buzz' pros/cons is one thing. Bringing up rumor/innuendo w/the 'not trying to stir the pot' precursor does that. If you were to say some of the same things, only differently, they may come out better. That was cause for my retort. It's like the news stations today talking to their subject and beginning an interview with "some people say..." and then using that intro as a gateway into asking any absurd question/statement imaginable. What "people"? What sources? That is all.
Quote from: Goose on March 21, 2011, 02:25:25 PM
What I heard would fall in line of almost any employee of a company. Basically a lack of appreciation and being thin skinned on some criticism. Only mention it because it probably is nothing if MU only gig open to him and could weigh in if choices need to be made.
I like Buzz and his schtick a lot. Find it very entertaining but believe some of the schtick might be just that. It is impossible to know a guy off sound bites. I will not assume I know Buzz because he called a Christian radio show or hugged his wife.
I've heard a little of the "he's really thin skinned" talk, too. It makes some sense if you recall his lashing out at McIlvaine on the postgame show a year or two ago when he thought a question was overly critical (and it was totally harmless).
But I've also had a personal experience with Buzz where I ran into him with my family and he just started to talk to us out of the blue and he talked and talked and talked and talked and could not have been any nicer or genuine, if a bit eccentric. Him calling into a little known Christian radio station out of the blue is very "Buzz like."
I'd be VERY surprised to see him leave. But if some school decides to open up the Brinks truck, you never know.
Nibv--Do you really think anyone with "real" sources is going to out their source on here. Honestly I do not care if you believe my posts, agree with them or disagree with them. When I say I am not trying to stir the pot I mean that. My posts never were meant to cause an argument, just state a fact.
If you are anybody else needs me to say insider x told me y and z is a possibility it is not going to happen. Guess I look at things differently and assume posters are telling the truth. If you do not like what someone says they are a liar. Not sure what evidence you can provide on my lying on here.
No offense intended to all the schools that Buzz is being mentioned with, but what do they have to offer that he doesn't have RIGHT NOW?
not a god damn thing.
If those are the types of issues that are out there, I can't imagine he'd be better off at Oklahoma where they'd tell him he needs to give up his parking spot for the new running backs coach.
Quote from: Litehouse on March 21, 2011, 04:23:36 PM
If those are the types of issues that are out there, I can't imagine he'd be better off at Oklahoma where they'd tell him he needs to give up his parking spot for the new running backs coach.
...or how fast they dumped Capel after some of the success he had there...
I'm worried about the Tennessee opening. Marquette coaches have a tradition of going there after the Sweet Sixteen... Doh!
Quote from: Niv Berkowitz on March 21, 2011, 02:27:57 PM
ANYONE that prefaces an email with "not trying to stir the pot" is 100% trying to stir the pot.
Always remember that everything before "but" is almost always a lie.
I'm not trying to stir the pot, but rumors are that Goose's post is total b.s. Just sayin.
My thought is that we are all feeling a bit jilted three years later by the departure of Crean. He came in, brought us back to the Final Four, then turned down job after job while collecting extension after extension. Just as we seem to have a team that can compete for Final Fours again, he up and leaves us for a program in ruins, proclaiming "It's Indiana, it's Indiana" as though Marquette was always just some red-headed stepchild of the college basketball world.
Crean left, and left a lot of us bitter and jaded. But let's remember that he did so after 9 years, and didn't leave until one of the true blue-bloods of college basketball opened up their vault to bring him in. Oklahoma's not Indiana. Arkansas isn't Indiana. Georgia Tech sure as hell isn't Indiana. And the only way you can compare Tennessee to Indiana is if Pat Summit joins Bruce Pearl on the unemployment line.
Buzz has a long way to go before he's getting the kind of offer that finally pried Crean away. And a run like this one will certainly get him the kind of contract extension that should keep him here and happy for at least 2-3 years before the real heavy-hitters, schools like Kansas if Bill Self tried the NBA, or Kentucky if the NCAA caught up with Calipari's dodgy dealings, or even hometown Texas if Rick Barnes suddenly forgot how to do his job, decide to come sniffing around after Buzz.
If I'm proven wrong and Buzz up and bolts as soon as we're knocked out of the tournament, stepping out of the team bus after they get back from success/failure in Newark/Houston and saying "Great run, but it's Georgia Tech, it's Georgia Tech, see you suckers later!" then I will willingly eat the crow I'm sure I will deserve. I just don't think we're close to that happening, and all the Andy Katz's and Gary Parrish's of the world can't change that.
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 21, 2011, 09:32:05 PM
My thought is that we are all feeling a bit jilted three years later by the departure of Crean. He came in, brought us back to the Final Four, then turned down job after job while collecting extension after extension. Just as we seem to have a team that can compete for Final Fours again, he up and leaves us for a program in ruins, proclaiming "It's Indiana, it's Indiana" as though Marquette was always just some red-headed stepchild of the college basketball world.
Crean left, and left a lot of us bitter and jaded. But let's remember that he did so after 9 years, and didn't leave until one of the true blue-bloods of college basketball opened up their vault to bring him in. Oklahoma's not Indiana. Arkansas isn't Indiana. Georgia Tech sure as hell isn't Indiana. And the only way you can compare Tennessee to Indiana is if Pat Summit joins Bruce Pearl on the unemployment line.
Buzz has a long way to go before he's getting the kind of offer that finally pried Crean away. And a run like this one will certainly get him the kind of contract extension that should keep him here and happy for at least 2-3 years before the real heavy-hitters, schools like Kansas if Bill Self tried the NBA, or Kentucky if the NCAA caught up with Calipari's dodgy dealings, or even hometown Texas if Rick Barnes suddenly forgot how to do his job, decide to come sniffing around after Buzz.
If I'm proven wrong and Buzz up and bolts as soon as we're knocked out of the tournament, stepping out of the team bus after they get back from success/failure in Newark/Houston and saying "Great run, but it's Georgia Tech, it's Georgia Tech, see you suckers later!" then I will willingly eat the crow I'm sure I will deserve. I just don't think we're close to that happening, and all the Andy Katz's and Gary Parrish's of the world can't change that.
I'm going with IWB on this one... Buzz isn't going anywhere. My guess is that his extension is already in place... they're just waiting on making the announcement.
Quote from: Ners on March 21, 2011, 01:28:21 PM
No..to answer the bolded question...considering UCONN was the Number 9 team in the country with the same 9-9 record as MU (and head to head 1-1). And judging by the way VCU PUMMLED the Big 10 runner up Purdue who was ranked 13th...I'd have to say VCU is a Top 16 team in the country.
I could care less about regular season results if my team advances to the Sweet 16 each year...
Posts like these are those that make you lose credibility - but I guess you are so far beyond concern for that, as you know you have ZERO credibility with 80% of this board...what's adding another 10% of Scoopers who perceive you as a tool?
Ners...I don't think I'm wrong on this but you're entitled to your opinion. By your logic, George Mason a few years ago was the 3rd best team in the country because they went to the Final Four. I would argue, correctly, that they finished 3rd best in the NCAA Tournament which is different than being 3rd best in the country. The tournament is a one and done affair in which often the best team in the country doesn't win the championship. One bad day, and you're gone.
There will be some years when we will go farther than our true measurement is just as there will be some years where we will get knocked out earlier than when we should. That's the nature of the tournament.
I'm sorry you took such exception to it, but I believe most college experts would agree with me.
I don't think Buzz is leaving either. I think brewcity's point about how it took nine years before IU got TC to leave MU is a good one. I don't think anyone blames TC for leaving MU when he did. Nine years is a long time. IU is a very nice program.
I have heard from a couple people that Buzz loves the team and the University...but that he isn't all that fond of Milwaukee both from a personal and recruiting standpoint. I don't think he spends the rest of his career here. But I don't think he is leaving yet.
Quote from: Ners on March 21, 2011, 01:28:21 PM
I could care less about regular season results if my team advances to the Sweet 16 each year...
I have a hard time believing this. If MU wins the Big East next season, and gets knocked out before the elite 8, there will be pissed off posters who will attack Buzz and say he should be fired because only results in March matter.
I have a feeling you will suddenly care about the regular season, and quite frankly, you should.
The tournament is a fantastic sporting event. However, it's not a fantastic evaluation tool as the sample size is so small.
I thought Sunday's game was awesome, but if DJO misses that jumper, it doesn't suddenly mean that MU's season is a failure. Conversely, a made jumper doesn't suddenly mean that Buzz is the greatest coach on the planet.
Perspective, gentlemen.
A buddy just texted and said Bill King on Rivals radio said he does not expect Buzz to stay at Marquette. Said he expects him to take OU or Arkansas. FWIW.
Quote from: NickelDimer on March 22, 2011, 08:30:57 AM
A buddy just texted and said Bill King on Rivals radio said he does not expect Buzz to stay at Marquette. Said he expects him to take OU or Arkansas. FWIW.
And who is Bill King and what inside sources might he have? I'm not asking this in a jack ass way..but I've not heard of him. Does he have credibility?
MUalum---Great post. It seems that many do not evaluate the full body of work. I would say this season is different because expectations were lower and the NCAA performance made the year. However, hopefully down the down the road the expectations are higher and we care from Oct. 15- first week of April.
Quote from: Ners on March 22, 2011, 09:00:16 AM
And who is Bill King and what inside sources might he have? I'm not asking this in a jack ass way..but I've not heard of him. Does he have credibility?
I was going to ask the same thing, "Who is Bill King?".
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 22, 2011, 09:17:18 AM
I was going to ask the same thing, "Who is Bill King?".
Former Sixers GM?
He's Rivals radio's, (on Sirius) resident NCAA guru. Hopefully he's an idiot.
When all of you fret and pull your hair over the thought of Buzz leaving for Oklahoma, or Arkansas or Georgia Tech or wherever, you are essentially admitting that you think the head coaching job at those schools are more attractive than the one at Marquette. In other words, you don't hold Marquette in the same esteem.
As a proud alum of my beloved Marquette, I'm sick of it. Buzz is lucky to be the head coach at Marquette. He says so himself. There are only a handful of jobs in the country that are better than Marquette. Indiana may be one of them and that's what it took to get the prior coach to leave.
Ask Kevin O'Neill if the grass is always greener on the other side. Marquette is a great job. Tons of money, history of success, great facilities, Big East, massive alumni support, community support, university support, near Great Lakes region recruiting, etc. Buzz isn't leaving all of that for some southern land grant school.
Also when KO left, Marquette didn't have the facilities it has now, we weren't in the Big East, and we hadn't been to six straight NCAAs.
Quote from: Avenue Commons on March 22, 2011, 12:08:45 PM
When all of you fret and pull your hair over the thought of Buzz leaving for Oklahoma, or Arkansas or Georgia Tech or wherever, you are essentially admitting that you think the head coaching job at those schools are more attractive than the one at Marquette. In other words, you don't hold Marquette in the same esteem.
That's not necessarily true.
What it admits is that a Texas guy, with a wife from Texas, who attended school in Oklahoma, has strong professional ties to Texas and has spent the majority of his professional career in that part of the country might find the opportunity to coach closer to home as very appealing.
Quote from: Pakuni on March 22, 2011, 12:18:30 PM
That's not necessarily true.
What it admits is that a Texas guy, with a wife from Texas, who attended school in Oklahoma, has strong professional ties to Texas and has spent the majority of his professional career in that part of the country might find the opportunity to coach closer to home as very appealing.
+1