The dreaded 8 or 9 seed and will be playing in Cleveland, OH.
You might as well not even show up if you make it to the second round, in that case.
Playing Ohio State in Ohio? Just forfeit...
A disastrous draw, if the rumor is true.
If you believe that, then I have some nice swampland in Florida for sale...
Quote from: willie wampum on March 11, 2011, 04:55:48 PM
The dreaded 8 or 9 seed and will be playing in Cleveland, OH.
You might as well not even show up if you make it to the second round, in that case.
Playing Ohio State in Ohio? Just forfeit...
A disastrous draw, if the rumor is true.
Basically that is just the rumor on the "Scout" board. Pure BS if you ask me. Nobody has any inside knowledge on any MU message board on where MU will be seeded I can guarantee that.
Quote from: willie wampum on March 11, 2011, 04:55:48 PM
The dreaded 8 or 9 seed and will be playing in Cleveland, OH.
You might as well not even show up if you make it to the second round, in that case.
I think that's what Northern Iowa said last year about playing Kansas in St. Louis.
Willie, what you've just wrote is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever read...... I award you no points and may God have mercy on your soul.
Quote from: willie wampum on March 11, 2011, 04:55:48 PM
The dreaded 8 or 9 seed and will be playing in Cleveland, OH.
You might as well not even show up if you make it to the second round, in that case.
Playing Ohio State in Ohio? Just forfeit...
A disastrous draw, if the rumor is true.
What a complete farce of a post.
While I think this is a wildly false rumor. I also acknowledge that it could happen. I actually welcome this scenario. The way MU plays this year, we can beat, or lose to anyone. Assuming we manage to beat an opponent 8 or 9, I welcome the chance to play a #1 on a neutral court. In my mind we have just as good of a chance to win as just about any other seed. If you knock them off - AWESOME! If not, oh well.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 11, 2011, 05:21:39 PM
While I think this is a wildly false rumor. I also acknowledge that it could happen. I actually welcome this scenario. The way MU plays this year, we can beat, or lose to anyone. Assuming we manage to beat an opponent 8 or 9, I welcome the chance to play a #1 on a neutral court. In my mind we have just as good of a chance to win as just about any other seed. If you knock them off - AWESOME! If not, oh well.
I disagree strongly that MU could beat anyone, due to two reasons...
1. MU is not a good 3pt shooting team, so you don't have a scenario where the team gets red-hot from 3pt land and pulls the upset.
2. MU is a horrible....HORRIBLE...defensive team, so you can't count on lockdown defense to keep them close to a top-notch team.
I sure hope that rumor is false. If you thought Louisville dominated MU, Ohio State would slice and dice them and it would be brutal to watch.
Quote from: willie wampum on March 11, 2011, 05:33:08 PM
I disagree strongly that MU could beat anyone, due to two reasons...
1. MU is not a good 3pt shooting team, so you don't have a scenario where the team gets red-hot from 3pt land and pulls the upset.
2. MU is a horrible....HORRIBLE...defensive team, so you can't count on lockdown defense to keep them close to a top-notch team.
I sure hope that rumor is false. If you thought Louisville dominated MU, Ohio State would slice and dice them and it would be brutal to watch.
Then please, don't watch it. Better yet, don't post about it either. Man you are one debbie downer all the time. >:(
I don't mind discussing the hard facts every once in awhile but this willie dude is pretty much 24/7 bitching. Somebody throw him some prozac and a lithium.
Quote from: willie wampum on March 11, 2011, 05:33:08 PM
I disagree strongly that MU could beat anyone, due to two reasons...
1. MU is not a good 3pt shooting team, so you don't have a scenario where the team gets red-hot from 3pt land and pulls the upset.
2. MU is a horrible....HORRIBLE...defensive team, so you can't count on lockdown defense to keep them close to a top-notch team.
I sure hope that rumor is false. If you thought Louisville dominated MU, Ohio State would slice and dice them and it would be brutal to watch.
Willie, to use your own example against you (to prove my point that MU can beat anyone)....did MU have a chance to beat UL @ UL?
It's not a good chance - but I really believe we have a decent (20%) chance to beat just about anyone. If Purdue and Wiscy can beat OSU, then MU has a *chance*. Bring it on. I'd love to see the matchup. It also mean's we'd be playing at least our second game in the NCAAs!
Quote from: willie wampum on March 11, 2011, 04:55:48 PM
The dreaded 8 or 9 seed and will be playing in Cleveland, OH.
You might as well not even show up if you make it to the second round, in that case.
Playing Ohio State in Ohio? Just forfeit...
A disastrous draw, if the rumor is true.
tOSU is beatable. But, you MUST control the tempo. Northwestern took 'em to OT twice. UW controlled the pace in Madison and won and didn't in Columbus and had their asses sliced and diced.
Yeah Dodds put this "rumor" up on his site. While it is a possibility, no one could possibly know this until the committee meets on Sunday.
Only a billion dollar TV contract is riding on the seedings and they are so careless that a basketball message board knows where we are going 48 hours before the selection show?
I call BS and even if this is exactly the way it works out, I still call BS.
wampum, you should have immediately discounted this rumor as you don't think MU deserves to be in. To compromise the one principle you have (that MU stinks) simply to stir it up.....character revealed.
wampum-ya gotta ease up on the peyote buttons man. i thought you couldn't play on home floor or what could be contrued as a home field advantage in the dance?? i'm open for clarifications on this one
Quote from: wyzgy on March 11, 2011, 07:58:19 PM
wampum-ya gotta ease up on the peyote buttons man. i thought you couldn't play on home floor or what could be contrued as a home field advantage in the dance?? i'm open for clarifications on this one
Correct, but it is your home court. That is defined by the number of games you host on that court. A few years back, Nova played on their own home court and a few at the Wachovia Center (which hosted that year). They played fewer times at the Wachovia so it was not considered their "home court". They were then able to play there in the NCAA Tourney.
For Christ's sake, the FIELD isn't even SET YET, with respect to auto-bids, bubble teams, etc. How could they know where to put anyone?!? Such a sociopathically dimwitted "rumor."
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on March 11, 2011, 06:37:17 PM
Only a billion dollar TV contract is riding on the seedings and they are so careless that a basketball message board knows where we are going 48 hours before the selection show?
I call BS and even if this is exactly the way it works out, I still call BS.
I agree with this 100%. Assuming we end up an 8 or 9 which seems to be the general thought, this scenario has a 1 in 4 chance of happening and someone is going to be patting themselves on the back and expect lots of e-admiration as having some kind of great inside info.
The truth in this rumor is that if you throw enough dog crap against the wall eventually something will stick.
I believe information could easily have been occasionally leaked early to some teams in past years about destination/seed, but not this early.
However, if we do get the 8/9, there is a possibility ND & Pitt both get 1 seeds, which would put us against either KU or tOSU.
Life Rule #22:
When someone starts out "I heard a rumor that..." what follows next is assuredly 100% bull sh#*. In this case, it's not just sh#*, it's the steaming variety.
For further reading, I recommend the definitions of the following in Webster's Dictionary:
"Rumor" as in, "I heard a rumor that your mom had a sex change."
"Predict" as in, "I predict MU will play in Cleveland against tOSu."
"Sequestered" as in, "The tournament committee is sequestered in Indianapolis."
I saw an interview with a former SC member this week. He said that one year, after all the seeds were agreed upon, they realized they only had a half-hour left to seed the bracket. Something tells me they don't even have the seeds decided on yet, much less any idea of locations and match-ups on a Friday afternoon.
Quote from: willie wampum on March 11, 2011, 05:33:08 PM
I sure hope that rumor is false. If you thought Louisville dominated MU, Ohio State would slice and dice them and it would be brutal to watch.
Uhhh, yeah, we all said that about Duke. Don't recall the score offhand but don't think we were "blown out."
Also think Pittsburgh was a Top 5 team when we played them and......
If Northwestern can hang with OSU, i fell MU could also
Lunardi must know the guy at MU that heard the rumor....he has updated his bracket accordingly. :D
Quote from: wyzgy on March 11, 2011, 07:58:19 PM
wampum-ya gotta ease up on the peyote buttons man. i thought you couldn't play on home floor or what could be contrued as a home field advantage in the dance?? i'm open for clarifications on this one
Tthat rule does noy apply to Duke. They are exempt from all rules that would affect their chances to win. My guess is that Duke will get a number 1 seed just like just about every year.
Quote from: willie warrior on March 12, 2011, 01:30:39 PMTthat rule does noy apply to Duke. They are exempt from all rules that would affect their chances to win. My guess is that Duke will get a number 1 seed just like just about every year.
It will depend on what they do in the ACC tournament. No way they get one if they don't win their conference title. Though it looks like UNC is doing everything they can to make the Dookies' road easier.
I think there's a pretty good chance we'll be in either Cleveland with a potential match up against Ohio St or Chicago with a potential match up against Kansas. We seem to be in the 8/9 range.
Quote from: TJ on March 12, 2011, 01:56:19 PMI think there's a pretty good chance we'll be in either Cleveland with a potential match up against Ohio St or Chicago with a potential match up against Kansas. We seem to be in the 8/9 range.
My guess is Kansas will be playing in Tulsa their opening weekend. My guess is they will have a pod there, as will Texas.
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 12, 2011, 02:15:47 PM
My guess is Kansas will be playing in Tulsa their opening weekend. My guess is they will have a pod there, as will Texas.
Exactly.....No way Kansas goes anywhere other than Tulsa.
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 12, 2011, 02:15:47 PM
My guess is Kansas will be playing in Tulsa their opening weekend. My guess is they will have a pod there, as will Texas.
Oops - missed Tulsa when I was looking through the list of first round sites, and Chicago seemed to be closest after that. You are right, Kansas will definitely be in Tulsa.
Am I stating the obvious by pointing out that we would have to win a first round game before we play Ohio State or Kansas? If we are looking to get the best second round matchup, shouldn't we want to be a #16 seed and get Ohio State out of the way early?
Quote from: Jacks DC on March 12, 2011, 05:03:19 PMAm I stating the obvious by pointing out that we would have to win a first round game before we play Ohio State or Kansas? If we are looking to get the best second round matchup, shouldn't we want to be a #16 seed and get Ohio State out of the way early?
We all know that, but trying to figure out our first round opponent is near insanity. I did that on CS the other day and had a list of 18 potential first round opponents. It's much harder to figure out how we match up against that quantity of opponents that are included from the 6 to 11 seed lines than it is to look at the first three seed lines, especially when you can rule out half of those teams (Pitt, ND, Duke, Louisville, Syracuse, UConn) because we already played them.
Quote from: Jacks DC on March 12, 2011, 05:03:19 PM
Am I stating the obvious by pointing out that we would have to win a first round game before we play Ohio State or Kansas? If we are looking to get the best second round matchup, shouldn't we want to be a #16 seed and get Ohio State out of the way early?
Good way of thinking of it actually
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 12, 2011, 05:07:00 PM
We all know that, but trying to figure out our first round opponent is near insanity. I did that on CS the other day and had a list of 18 potential first round opponents. It's much harder to figure out how we match up against that quantity of opponents that are included from the 6 to 11 seed lines than it is to look at the first three seed lines, especially when you can rule out half of those teams (Pitt, ND, Duke, Louisville, Syracuse, UConn) because we already played them.
I saw that on CS - didn't bother to read it but I'm sure it was brilliant. I just think it's crazy to say that we would rather be a 10 seed than an 8 seed for a better second round matchup. Having said that if we get UNLV and then BYU I'm booking tickets to the Sweet Sixteen.
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 12, 2011, 05:07:00 PM
We all know that, but trying to figure out our first round opponent is near insanity. I did that on CS the other day and had a list of 18 potential first round opponents. It's much harder to figure out how we match up against that quantity of opponents that are included from the 6 to 11 seed lines than it is to look at the first three seed lines, especially when you can rule out half of those teams (Pitt, ND, Duke, Louisville, Syracuse, UConn) because we already played them.
I still think at least one pod is going to end up with two Big East teams. The easiest way to select 11 Big East teams and claim there was no bias in such is to make sure that a few of them eliminate each other before the regional rounds.