Apparently The Big Show started talking about Marquette Basketball yesterday and weren't exactly excited about our upcoming season.
Its not on podcast and I didnt listen live, but people on the Twitter were reporting what they said....and it didn't sound nice. Anyone actually catch it?
via @go_marquette
Shocked that @1250WSSP (Big Show guys) is looking at #mubb in a negative light. NOT!
@mjtimberlake @brewtownandy said team poster md team look like thugs. Said #mubb has no legacy (says that on poster). Said Buzz...(cont)
@mjtimberlake @brewtownandy only recruits JUCOs and guys of shady backgrounds. Callers chimed in saying #mubb is shady, they hate MU, etc
@mjtimberlake @brewtownandy shock, Sparky was the sanest,Gary was pulling the UW-is-holier-than-thou crap.It seriously was borderline racist
via @anonymouseagle
@go_marquette Decided to listen to Gary Ellerson's take on MU's basketball poster. That was quite an exercise in nonsense.
And lastly via @WSSP_Big_Show
Marquette basketball mean mugging poster thoughts? http://bit.ly/1250wssp
WSSP = World's Stupidest Sports Program....ugh. Hard to listen to these guys on any topic.
With the beatings that are about to happen to UW on behalf of MU, if you are an ideologue UW fan you have to start convincing yourself that MU is somehow shady or some how not one us because they are thugs. I don't care that that kid Taylor put up some nice games against Indiana and Penn State, I am not worried about them. Deep down, they know what is coming too.
If MU does not have a legacy based on having Al's years and now having one of the best coaches in the NBA and best players in the NBA right now, then I don't know who besides UCLA, Duke, etc. has a legacy.
That station has been a joke ever since they hit the airwaves. They are an embarassment.
I hope Broeker/Buzz get a hold of this and have some words for Ellerson's dumb ass.
I've never heard of the station or the show. Is it out of central/northern Wisconsin or something?
I didn't realize that talking heads on AM got any listeners anymore. /shrug
I don't know what's worse, sports talk radio or political talk radio. Basically, they're the same, a bunch of bitter, middle-aged, uninformed, borderline retarded and racist angry white men spouting nonsense. Que the "RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE" photo...
Quote from: lab_warrior on November 05, 2010, 09:38:51 AM
I don't know what's worse, sports talk radio or political talk radio. Basically, they're the same, a bunch of bitter, middle-aged, uninformed, borderline retarded and racist angry white men spouting nonsense. Que the "RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE" photo...
Answer: Political talk radio....it will drive you insane eventually.
Actually, Ive heard that sports talk radio has actually grown in the past 10-15 years and with all the smartphone apps and online streaming, you dont need to even be in the area or have an AM radio.
Quote from: HoopsMalone on November 05, 2010, 09:37:05 AM
If MU does not have a legacy based on having Al's years and now having one of the best coaches in the NBA and best players in the NBA right now, then I don't know who besides UCLA, Duke, etc. has a legacy.
+1
And MU's legacy is only getting better. Last year (2 yrs ago?), the Athletic Department had some figures about MU's all-time achievements relative to other programs....I can't find it but remember it being impressive.
Shamefully judging a book by its cover.
Lab_Warrior nice stereotype but you should keep your nose in your beakers and speak about that which you do know.
Major markets have better choices of who to listen to .
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Quote from: Nukem2 on November 05, 2010, 09:32:10 AM
WSSP = World's Stupidest Sports Program....ugh. Hard to listen to these guys on any topic.
Isn't that the truth! I moved out of Milwaukee 4 years ago, and while I always had a hunch that the local sports talk was less than mediocre on 1250(and in the 414 in general), it became clear that this is indeed the case after living in a different city (Cincinnati) and listening to their local guys for four years. Further, not only is the quality better overall, they cover college hoops extensively including Cincy, Xavier, Kentucky, Miami(OH), and even Louisville......and they show little to no bias in all cases. 1250 is garbage and I suggest that all of the 414/262 people simply make their statements by not listening when Gary Ellerson/Sparky are on. Hurt them through their ratings
Quote from: elephantraker on November 05, 2010, 09:55:20 AM
Lab_Warrior nice stereotype but you should keep your nose in your beakers and speak about that which you do know.
Major markets have better choices of who to listen to .
He did use the qualifier that they were
basically the same thing...I would agree with lab that vast vast majority of sports radio is rabble rabble rabble. Good sports radio stations are most definitely the exception, not the rule
Basically ,they are not all angry white men etc.... Maybe in Milwaukee but I think he was actually making an angry statement about those with which he does not agree,hence the refernce to "stupid" et al. Which makes me think I'm back in grammar school with Lab _ Warrior only able to call people names. I'm sick of baseless attacks on persons with whom we do not agree regardless of their persuasion. It bespeaks a closed mind.
Quote from: OhioGoldenEagle on November 05, 2010, 09:59:34 AM
Isn't that the truth! I moved out of Milwaukee 4 years ago, and while I always had a hunch that the local sports talk was less than mediocre on 1250(and in the 414 in general), it became clear that this is indeed the case after living in a different city (Cincinnati) and listening to their local guys for four years. Further, not only is the quality better overall, they cover college hoops extensively including Cincy, Xavier, Kentucky, Miami(OH), and even Louisville......and they show little to no bias in all cases. 1250 is garbage and I suggest that all of the 414/262 people simply make their statements by not listening when Gary Ellerson/Sparky are on. Hurt them through their ratings
It's not just sports talk. Milwaukee has the absolute worst radio I've heard in my life. The fact that people actually listen to Bob and Brian is jaw-dropping. This is a show that is so desperate for "personality" that they have to have a guy call in from Washington DC! Are you kidding me? You're telling me there's nobody in (or from) Wisconsin with personality enough to discuss sports? It's an embarrassment.
And who cares what these losers from WSSP say. They're a bunch of guys making $15,000 a year.
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on November 05, 2010, 10:18:37 AM
The fact that people actually listen to Bob and Brian is jaw-dropping. This is a show that is so desperate for "personality" that they have to have a guy call in from Washington DC! Are you kidding me? You're telling me there's nobody in (or from) Wisconsin with personality enough to discuss sports? It's an embarrassment.
Got nothing to do with what's available in Wisconsin, the sports segment has always been about a nationally known sports reporter talking about sports on a national scale not local sports. They started with Dan Patrick back in his early days at ESPN, when he left they replaced him with Mark Patrick and then Czaben.
Quote from: bma725 on November 05, 2010, 10:35:12 AM
Got nothing to do with what's available in Wisconsin, the sports segment has always been about a nationally known sports reporter talking about sports on a national scale not local sports. They started with Dan Patrick back in his early days at ESPN, when he left they replaced him with Mark Patrick and then Czaben.
Dan Patrick is quite a bit different from Czaben. I'm from Chicago and I've never heard of the guy until I heard him in Milwaukee. And Mark Patrick? Are you kidding me? He's "nationally known?" I don't think so. It's embarrassing and extremely small time that they need to pipe a guy in from DC to talk sports.
Steve Czaban is awesome. Your opinions, PRN, are wrong.
Quote from: bma725 on November 05, 2010, 10:35:12 AM
Got nothing to do with what's available in Wisconsin, the sports segment has always been about a nationally known sports reporter talking about sports on a national scale not local sports. They started with Dan Patrick back in his early days at ESPN, when he left they replaced him with Mark Patrick and then Czaben.
The only reason they got Dan Patrick for that gig is because Patrick roomed with Dave Luczak, of "Dave and Carole" WKLH fame, at the University of Dayton, but they didn't think he was right for the KLH audience, and they sent him over to LZR, which are owned by the same company.
Is there a picture of the poster somewhere?
Quote from: elephantraker on November 05, 2010, 10:08:03 AM
Basically ,they are not all angry white men etc.... Maybe in Milwaukee but I think he was actually making an angry statement about those with which he does not agree,hence the refernce to "stupid" et al. Which makes me think I'm back in grammar school with Lab _ Warrior only able to call people names. I'm sick of baseless attacks on persons with whom we do not agree regardless of their persuasion. It bespeaks a closed mind.
You sound like an angry white man.
BTW, Ellerson better watch making too many "thug" labels considering the crowd he ran around Milwaukee with after his NFL playing days ended. I don't think he'd be real comfortable about some of those stories coming to light.
Here's the link where you can see the poster and you can listen to the whole segment on MU by clicking on Hour 3 of the audio podcasts. They talk about MU for around 20 minutes.
http://www.sportsradio1250.com/The-Big-Show/300683
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Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on November 05, 2010, 10:55:53 AM
Dan Patrick is quite a bit different from Czaben. I'm from Chicago and I've never heard of the guy until I heard him in Milwaukee. And Mark Patrick? Are you kidding me? He's "nationally known?" I don't think so. It's embarrassing and extremely small time that they need to pipe a guy in from DC to talk sports.
Czaban isn't just some DC guy, when he started on Bob and Brian, he was hosting his own show for One-on-One Sports, the largest sports radio network in the country at that time. He's the only person in history to be a host on all three of the national sports radio networks, and he's been syndicated around the country in some capacity for more than a decade. You're not having heard of him says more about you not knowing the radio business than anything else.
Mark Patrick has been a part of the most successful syndicated morning show in radio for more than 20 years, he's had his own show on Fox Sports Radio and the MLB Radio Network, as well as working for ESPN Radio. He's been a name in the business since the mid 1980s.
The only problem I have with that poster is Joe Fulce's face. What is that??? Haha.
My goodness...*that's* the poster they are complaining about? Isn't getting all worked up over black guys with tats, cornrows and angry looks on their faces about 20 years old now?
Quote from: Skatastrophy on November 05, 2010, 10:59:05 AM
Steve Czaban is awesome. Your opinions, PRN, are wrong.
It's not even an opinion, it's a fact. Piping in a guy from Washington DC every morning to talk sports makes the station, and Milwaukee itself for listening, look like small potatoes. If you can tell me what I'm wrong about, I'm all ears. Are you saying this makes Milwaukee radio look big time?
First, not the image I would have chosen when I was doing the marketing there because I don't think it flows with the university's image. Having said that, things have changed. I don't read it as thuggery but more as intensity. Of course, if someone wants to push an agenda, then they can make this into something else.
Now, here is some of the irony....here is the poster for their radio station
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs111.snc1/4819_106005135002_106002890002_2139046_1765851_n.jpg)
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on November 05, 2010, 11:20:50 AM
It's not even an opinion, it's a fact. Piping in a guy from Washington DC every morning to talk sports makes the station, and Milwaukee itself for listening, look like small potatoes. If you can tell me what I'm wrong about, I'm all ears. Are you saying this makes Milwaukee radio look big time?
Milwaukee radio is small time.
Quote from: bma725 on November 05, 2010, 11:18:20 AM
Czaban isn't just some DC guy, when he started on Bob and Brian, he was hosting his own show for One-on-One Sports, the largest sports radio network in the country at that time. He's the only person in history to be a host on all three of the national sports radio networks, and he's been syndicated around the country in some capacity for more than a decade. You're not having heard of him says more about you not knowing the radio business than anything else.
Mark Patrick has been a part of the most successful syndicated morning show in radio for more than 20 years, he's had his own show on Fox Sports Radio and the MLB Radio Network, as well as working for ESPN Radio. He's been a name in the business since the mid 1980s.
And yet there's only one station in the country paying Czaben to call into their morning show.
WSSP makes me squirm and scream like a girl.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on November 05, 2010, 11:00:34 AM
The only reason they got Dan Patrick for that gig is because Patrick roomed with Dave Luczak, of "Dave and Carole" WKLH fame, at the University of Dayton, but they didn't think he was right for the KLH audience, and they sent him over to LZR, which are owned by the same company.
Patrick and Luczak do have the connection, but that's not how he got to WLZR. The reason Patrick ended up where he did was because his brother Dave was the station manager at WLZR back then and it had been his idea to bring Dan onto the show.
WKLH and WLZR didn't become sister stations until 1993, four years after Patrick had already joined the show.
These guys realize it's not the official team picture right? They compared it to the Bucks one on their website, which I took to mean the one that has them sitting on the court with the coaches and everything. Well we have that one too, this is more of a marketing thing, not our "official team picture" Isn't the 76-77 picture their official team picture?
The funniest part was saying you couldn't even tell Frozena was white in the picture. Really? That's a huge reach.
Overall I think this was just a sad, sad segment. It seemed like it was lets find something about Marquette, blow it out of proportion and just rag on everything Marquette.
Is that the same Sparky that was the Homer's b*tch on ISN?
WSSP is a Badgers station. It caters to Waukesha and other badger hot beds.
540 is a Marquette station. Even when homer is not on, it is much more pro marquette than WSSP is.
I liked their whole explanation on how "Diverse" the UW Madison student body is ::) Werent they the same school that photoshopped a black kid into a picture???
I had to laugh at the guy talking about the fur coats from the 1976-77 team photo and arguing "where did the players get the fur coats"?
Good grief, hasn't anyone ever heard of props? I doubt each guy owned a tux, either...let alone the classic car in the background.
Listening to this is kind of funny. There are some valid points, don't get me wrong, but the commentary is funny. Sparky...good Lord. Guy was terrible with Homer and nothing has changed.
Quote from: cheebs09 on November 05, 2010, 11:41:24 AM
Overall I think this was just a sad, sad segment. It seemed like it was lets find something about Marquette, blow it out of proportion and just rag on everything Marquette.
That's basically what sportstalk radio is nowadays. Pick something out about (team/player/coach/university) that you don't particularly like, blow it out of proportion and talk it to death. We're talking about WSSP because of this so they've succeeded.
Also, it's sad to say, but a picture of young, black men who are trying to look intimidating is going to make some people uncomfortable and make some people think they're a bunch of thugs. Maybe next year they'll use a "funny face" picture.
1) Aren't the players in order by seniority? Wouldn't that jive with the "Continuing Legacy" theme?
2) Isn't it also a reference to being a Jordan Brand/Wade Brand school?
Damn. Even I could figure that out.
I like the "edge" of the poster -- looks like a bunch of gritty bad asses and enforcers.
If you don't get what those WSSP douches are saying, you're not being honest. There is a certain amount of disconnect between MU's high-and-mighty ultra Catholic agenda, overly WASPY Marquette population and the feel of this poster. Big deal. I much prefer this over a bright and smiley effort filled with Rod Grosses and Jared Lovettes. While it looks like a poster I would have expected from Cincy, I think it's awesome. They say "thugs" -- who cares? Having met more than a few of them, they seem to be a good, respectful group of kids. There's a lot of MU hate in this town. Bring it on.
>>> Small-time, big-time? Czabe is funny and interesting to me.
Two of them look like they just graduated from high school
I love Czaben
Sparky truly has no clue what he's talking about. As a %, Marquette is more diverse than UW-Madison....stats don't lie. Not sure why Sparky can't understand or do a little digging.
I love the stereotype of the Marquette "rich" kids, too. Does he not realize a huge number of students are on financial aid? Something like 75% or whatever it is?
Seriously, this Sparky guy is so devoid of any facts it boggles the mind.
Whenever I hear that Buzz is coming on WSSP I call and ask them to play the clip in which both Doug and Mike grade Buzz with an 'F' after Tyshan Taylor left. They never play it though. They said he was a terrible recruiter--which is funny and ironic because that has always been Buzz' strong suit.
I usually try Homer, but he won't talk about MU hoops unless you pull it out of him. I think Homer views his position as the voice of the Warriors as a job and would rather talk for hours about the 8-12 man on the Bucks roster, not MU.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on November 05, 2010, 11:21:02 AM
First, not the image I would have chosen when I was doing the marketing there because I don't think it flows with the university's image. Having said that, things have changed. I don't read it as thuggery but more as intensity. Of course, if someone wants to push an agenda, then they can make this into something else.
Now, here is some of the irony....here is the poster for their radio station
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs111.snc1/4819_106005135002_106002890002_2139046_1765851_n.jpg)
We are on the air, and we're talking about the Big Show team picture:
The picture of the Big Show cast, of a smiling black guy hanging two white guys, is a hate crime. Let's open up the phone lines...
Just so I understand, all 14 listeners of WSSP hate MU?
Dang, how will MU ever sellout the BC?
Quote from: LovinMUbBall on November 05, 2010, 01:00:30 PM
We are on the air, and we're talking about the Big Show team picture:
The picture of the Big Show cast, of a smiling black guy hanging two white guys, is a hate crime. Let's open up the phone lines...
That guy in the middle looks like Michael Clarke Duncan from The Green Mile. Except fat.
Quote from: Skatastrophy on November 05, 2010, 01:13:15 PM
That guy in the middle looks like Michael Clarke Duncan from The Green Mile. Except fat.
Except he was a gentle giant...who wouldn't have talked s**t about Marquette's "thuggish" poster. I'm still amazed at how ridiculous that segment was.
The first caller is a MU season-ticket holder, that doesn't like the poster.
Gary might be the only person on the planet who can't tell that Rob Frozena is white. Absurd.
does anyone have a link to the poster being referrenced...none of the links actually have it on there.
That's what WSSP personnel consider thuggish? I was expecting something else when I opened the pic. Instead, what jumps out is the scowl on the FrozenOne's face.
Perhaps they should be honest and have a poster with red/white team theme with actual mug shots for players from a certain team who have been charged with crimes, such as assault and battery, sexual assault, theft of video games, with BA's son microwaving a parrot with the caption "continuing the legacy"?
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on November 05, 2010, 11:14:16 AM
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This is the poster.
Quote from: cheebs09 on November 05, 2010, 11:41:24 AM
These guys realize it's not the official team picture right? They compared it to the Bucks one on their website, which I took to mean the one that has them sitting on the court with the coaches and everything. Well we have that one too, this is more of a marketing thing, not our "official team picture" Isn't the 76-77 picture their official team picture?
The funniest part was saying you couldn't even tell Frozena was white in the picture. Really? That's a huge reach.
Overall I think this was just a sad, sad segment. It seemed like it was lets find something about Marquette, blow it out of proportion and just rag on everything Marquette.
I can't tell he's white either. All the dark players around him aren't obvious enough to me. Besides, what would it even matter? I think it is kind of comical that a low class/creditable talk show judges a school's program as a whole because of a POSTER. Someone said it before and they're right...national championship, pride, tradition, success of the program (and the entire school/community as a whole)....how is that not working on continuing a legacy? Pride, tradition, success....something that station cannot say about themselves.
It's comical that they are spewing that stuff. It's too bad that this drivel gets on the radio.
From everything I've seen and heard, faith seems to be a big part of our team's makeup, and he's saying they like thugs on a poster? Didn't Diamond Taylor and Glover on Wiscy actually get arrested last year for burglary?
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/57613237.html
thanks for posting the poster....wow Jimmy butler looks like a real thug!! :)
What a bunch of a$$holes. Poster is more than fine to me.
First thing that actaully came to mind for me was what a great tribute to frozena to have him up front with the other seniors...when in most team picture the walkons are regulated to standing in the back row with the managers.
Who cares if they think we are thugs. If we win on the court does it really matter.
I wouldnt care if are team was full of former Ex-Cons and d students. As long as they are making it rain on the court I could care less!!!!
The good news is.....That is not the case!!
WSSP talks about MU being a white school.
Remember when Wisconsin got in trouble about 5 years or so for a student section picture at Camp Randell and UW photo shop in a black guy, because no blacks go to the football games in UW football's student section. UW is 4 times bigger than MU.
I believe I posted this a long time ago but during the week leading up to MU's Final Four appearance in 2003, I tuned in WISN (the MU flagship station at the time) to listen to Homer thinking it would be all MU. Mr. Sparky (non athlete in the WSSP photo) was filling in for Homer and spent the majority of the program talking about the Brewers (spring training if I remember right). Only time I have ever written a complaint email to a media outlet.
Needless to say, if Mr. Sparky is involved I am not surprised that MU was not talked about in a positive light.
I caught part of the segment yesterday by chance, and I rolled my eyes a bit. Otherwise, I don't think I wasted a second of my life fretting over the host or caller comments. Sports radio is not the place to go for reasonably intelligent conversation on race, perceptions of the black athlete, privilege, class, or any of the other tangent topics they were fumbling through yesterday.
With that being said...message boards might be the second worst place to go for those conversations.
One last point...I think my frustration with local radio hosts is that they don't seem to know the nuances of our team/university as well as the typical MUScoop junkie like me or you. When I look at that poster, it translates to toughness and intensity (because I've heard Buzz mention those attributes in every interview for 2 years running). When I see Joe or Jimmy's face in that poster, it's consistent with the levity they bring to the lockeroom (which I know because I've seen every video clip on-line for at least 2 years now.) When a caller calls our style 'streetball', we cringe b/c we see it as strategy (and we know the stats supporting Buzz's paint-touch mantra). When they rip on Juco's, they fail to recognize Buzz's roots or affection for those guys. When a radio caller says we're not diverse, he's making a hasty generalization (perhaps b/c he never had to take a required philosophy or reasoning class where such skills are learned).
In short, if you are an MU die hard (and you probably are if you are blowing off work or school to read this on a Friday afternoon), you'll probably never be satisfied with the depth of radio commentary on MU basketball. WSSP or otherwise.
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on November 05, 2010, 01:45:47 PM
Who cares if they think we are thugs. If we win on the court does it really matter.
I wouldnt care if are team was full of former Ex-Cons and d students. As long as they are making it rain on the court I could care less!!!!
The good news is.....That is not the case!!
You sir are in the minority.
It seems a modern irony for people posting the written word on the internet to berate, belittle or complain about people using a call in show , on an older medium (of the radio) to verbalize, rather than type out their opinions.
Whatever the medium, or source, opinions are like %(%%)*&^*&^%, and everyone has one.
What's worse is Gary Ellerson spent years as a pitch man for Big Brothers/Big Sisters; an organization that is supposed to help kids/young adults realize their potential and build their futures....yet turns around and rips these kids for how they look on a poster. Someone call Don Imus.....gary's a fraud.
Quote from: mupanther on November 05, 2010, 01:48:43 PM
WSSP talks about MU being a white school.
Remember when Wisconsin got in trouble about 5 years or so for a student section picture at Camp Randell and UW photo shop in a black guy, because no blacks go to the football games in UW football's student section. UW is 4 times bigger than MU.
Here you go:
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Quote from: MUMBA on November 05, 2010, 01:58:57 PM
I caught part of the segment yesterday by chance, and I rolled my eyes a bit. Otherwise, I don't think I wasted a second of my life fretting over the host or caller comments. Sports radio is not the place to go for reasonably intelligent conversation on race, perceptions of the black athlete, privilege, class, or any of the other tangent topics they were fumbling through yesterday.
With that being said...message boards might be the second worst place to go for those conversations.
One last point...I think my frustration with local radio hosts is that they don't seem to know the nuances of our team/university as well as the typical MUScoop junkie like me or you. When I look at that poster, it translates to toughness and intensity (because I've heard Buzz mention those attributes in every interview for 2 years running). When I see Joe or Jimmy's face in that poster, it's consistent with the levity they bring to the lockeroom (which I know because I've seen every video clip on-line for at least 2 years now.) When a caller calls our style 'streetball', we cringe b/c we see it as strategy (and we know the stats supporting Buzz's paint-touch mantra). When they rip on Juco's, they fail to recognize Buzz's roots or affection for those guys. When a radio caller says we're not diverse, he's making a hasty generalization (perhaps b/c he never had to take a required philosophy or reasoning class where such skills are learned).
In short, if you are an MU die hard (and you probably are if you are blowing off work or school to read this on a Friday afternoon), you'll probably never be satisfied with the depth of radio commentary on MU basketball. WSSP or otherwise.
Perfectly stated.
I'd also add what's frustrating is that the radio guys aren't experts on MU hoops, but somehow they want to pretend to be.
I don't expect radio hosts to be experts on every single team in the state, but they shouldn't pretend to know something and trot out tired cliches like "streetball" or "thugs".
I am looking forward to my daughters getting their posters at tomorrow's game.
To my school-aged kids, the guys on the team are all just that: guys on the team. They're not black or white or thugs or anything.
When they get them I know exactly what my kid's gonna say, and it's not going to have anything to do with skin color or whether they look like thugs. She's going to say "I met all those guys last summer at basketball camp! They were nice!"
WSSP are idiots. Please ignore them.
Quote from: bma725 on November 05, 2010, 11:31:04 AM
Patrick and Luczak do have the connection, but that's not how he got to WLZR. The reason Patrick ended up where he did was because his brother Dave was the station manager at WLZR back then and it had been his idea to bring Dan onto the show.
WKLH and WLZR didn't become sister stations until 1993, four years after Patrick had already joined the show.
Thanks for correcting me...once again... ;)
Thugs? Really?
I guess I can see where they're coming from. Frozena is a pretty threatening guy.
I think Junior is one of the "tougher" looking ones and he's from Canada.
Quote from: MUDPT on November 05, 2010, 08:51:57 PM
I think Junior is one of the "tougher" looking ones and he's from Canada.
african-canadians have to be more thuggish because they're from canada.
Quote from: SacWarrior on November 05, 2010, 08:09:12 PM
Thugs? Really?
I guess I can see where they're coming from. Frozena is a pretty threatening guy.
You don't just get a nickname like "The Wild Rumpus" on accident.