Per ChiCitySports
http://www.chicitysports.com/2010/10/26/breaking-news-mike-shaw-to-end-recruitment-thursday/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
And Sun Times:
http://yourseason.suntimes.com/2835348,1025-mike-shaw-college-announcement-recruiting.article
Well, hopefully that source is wrong... Glad his coach has not taken us out of it.
Booo!
It is so disappointing to put so much effort in and get so close, only to come up short. Especially for a guy who seemed like a perfect fit for our roster. Oh well.
Quote from: HoopsMalone on October 25, 2010, 11:12:55 PM
Well, hopefully that source is wrong... Glad his coach has not taken us out of it.
There is always hope until a guy signs on the dotted line, but these early reports are right way more often than not.
I don't know. Lebron and Bosh were going everywhere until the morning before they committed to the Heat. ESPN threw everything at the wall and were wrong 100 million times.
That was completely different as it was the NBA, the biggest story in the world, and everyone was desperate to break the scoop.
In cases like this when early word of a commit comes out right after it is announced that a decision is coming in the next couple days, they are almost never wrong.
We don't need him...sure it would be nice but Jamil and Juan already make a great class to me
I've kind of followed that line of thinking in the case we miss out on these guys. However, I think Shaw could help us a lot. Hood also seems to fit very well. While we have a lot of talent, I want to get a little greedy and start pulling in guys like Hood who are five stars or Shaw who is considered one of the better PFs in his class and in Chicago. I want to have another top 25 recruiting class. While I think we will still have a lot of talent with the guys that would be returning, I think getting these guys could take us to another level.
Quote from: jhags15 on October 25, 2010, 11:59:52 PM
We don't need him...sure it would be nice but Jamil and Juan already make a great class to me
We also don't NEED to field a basketball team. But I sure do like having one!
Disappointed to hear, hopefully they're wrong, but the timing being right after his Illinois visit makes it seem likely. Hopefully Buzz can find another big that will fit the bill, or shock us all and get Hood and Faust.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on October 26, 2010, 01:04:16 AM
We also don't NEED to field a basketball team. But I sure do like having one!
+1
I don't know...until he actually makes his decision, I don't consider this true. They're both Chicago-based articles...of course Shaw is going to pick Illinois according to them.
D@mn...i hope this is incorrect as well. I really would like to see Shaw make his way to MU.
Can't speak to the Shaw-to-ILL. rumor, but heard we're out of it.
This is what can happen when a recruit falls asleep at madness.
I think there is only one logical answer of why Shaw isn't coming to Marquette, MUScoop.
From negative posting to sharing posters personal information, this board is reckless. I know if I was an 18 year-old prospect, I would be on this board daily and making my decision to go elsewhere.
Anyone else think the Chicitysports conclusion seems a bit off? His quote from his fbook page:
"Its been a long and crazy process but I know what school im going to now...i wanted to finish all my visit before i made my decision..now i know what colors im gonna be wearing next year..press conference Thursdays at De la salle.."
It almost sounds like he's saying taking his visit to Champaign last weekend was a formality, not a deciding factor. Then they quote some source saying its Illinois. Doesn't exactly sound like a rock solid conclusion to me.
Quote from: jhags15 on October 25, 2010, 11:59:52 PM
We don't need him...sure it would be nice but Jamil and Juan already make a great class to me
A silly bit of sour grapes.
I still believe Shaw may choose Marquette. He will have an excellent opportunity to play significant minutes along with a highly talented group of players.
Quote from: jhags15 on October 25, 2010, 11:59:52 PM
We don't need him...sure it would be nice but Jamil and Juan already make a great class to me
I'm getting tired of all these posts saying that next year's class is "Jamil and Juan." I understand that Jamil won't be eligible to play in games until next year, but he's not a member of the 2011 recruiting class. He'll be a sophomore (eligibility-wise) next year, so he's really part of that class.
At present, our 2011 recruiting class is Juan Anderson. He's a great player and I'm happy he's coming. But let's not try to dress up the class by repeatedly suggesting that Jamil Wilson is part of the class -- he's not. Our 2011 class will be judged by the kids that Buzz signs for that class. As of right now, the class is pretty thin. Hopefully Buzz will land another one or two good players (either JUCO or one of the others we've discussed). Call me a hater or a Crean fan or whatever you want, but if Buzz doesn't add another good player or two, I will be disappointed in this class. Not disappointed with Anderson, mind you, just disappointed with the class as a whole. Given the high standard Buzz has set in his short tenure (making us all spoiled), I would suggest that anybody who says he would not be disappointed by this is not being completely honest.
All that said, I think we'll have a very nice team with more talent than we've seen in a long, long time.
It's October 2010. Wait until the spring signing period is over before you judge the class.
me thinks you guys worry too much. Buzz will get one more HS guy this fall and then a JUCO all american in the spring.
Quote from: dwaderoy2004 on October 26, 2010, 09:18:34 AM
me thinks you guys worry too much. Buzz will get one more HS guy this fall and then a JUCO all american in the spring.
this
Quote from: BrewCity on October 26, 2010, 09:15:31 AM
It's October 2010. Wait until the spring signing period is over before you judge the class.
I agree completely, and I'm not particularly worried. That's why I prefaced my comment by saying, "if Buzz doesn't add another good player or two." I'm really just responding to the people who are spinning things and arguing "Jamil and Juan" are a good class.
If that's how things end up, it would be disappointing and anyone who says otherwise has set standards too low or isn't being honest. I'm confident, though, that this isn't how things will end up.
Quote from: dwaderoy2004 on October 26, 2010, 09:18:34 AM
me thinks you guys worry too much. Buzz will get one more HS guy this fall and then a JUCO all american in the spring.
In Buzz We Trust. C'est la vie. Que sera sera. A penny saved is a penny earned.
Out of curiosity... what would it take to silence the negativity about "lost recruits" (not this thread specifically, but in general over the last couple months)?? Recruiting has been as good (if not better) in the past few years than it has since the 70's. Marquette is one of TWO teams that has won 10 games in the Big East every year since 2005. Marquette continues to outperform expectations. This small university in Milwaukee is fielding a basketball team that is competing against, and on some nights beating, the best basketball teams in the country.
Will the critics ever be satisfied? What more can we ask for? A Big East Tournament Championship? A Sweet Sixteen Appearance? Another Final Four? A National Championship? Buzz ascending on the Third Day?
I find it hard to think that we are the only logical reason he chose the illini. However if people in the know hear that this is the case I would hope they speak up so we can use this case as an example.
Quote from: Benny B on October 26, 2010, 09:32:22 AM
Will the critics ever be satisfied? What more can we ask for? A Big East Tournament Championship? A Sweet Sixteen Appearance? Another Final Four? A National Championship? Buzz ascending on the Third Day?
I'm a fan, not a critic. I want to win it all. Buzz has done a great job, and I don't remember a time when I was more excited about the direction the program was heading (and that includes the year after the FF). But that doesn't mean that I can't be disappointed. I've gotten spoiled; first by Crean, and now by Buzz. I want top 10 recruiting classes, conference championships and more. If Marquette wins every game except one, I'll be disappointed that we lost that game. It doesn't mean I'd be disappointed with Buzz or the "state of the program." I don't think that makes me a "critic." I think it makes me a fan.
Fans often lack patient and a good grip of realty. Illinois fans are a good example of this. I think two years ago they all wanted to throw their coach under the bus. Now he will have two very good classes in a row and the future is looking up for them. There are a lot of factors that go into recruiting. As we could see with Crean he could come up with a super class and he could come up with a bad class. Somethimes it has to do with targeting a player like Brian Butch, who we probably never had a chance with. Or targeting a player early on that just blows up on you and you lose him to another program. The problem with recruiting a player early is that you can become the boring suiter. I think that is one of the reasons Crean lost that guard to Georgia Tech. I think one of the problems with this year's class is that the these three players did not decide a month ago. Losing out now leaves you with few alternatives.
Quote from: Benny B on October 26, 2010, 09:32:22 AM
Will the critics ever be satisfied? What more can we ask for? A Big East Tournament Championship? A Sweet Sixteen Appearance? Another Final Four? A National Championship? Buzz ascending on the Third Day?
Funny, those words could have been said in 2006, 2007, 2008......
Quote from: StillAWarrior on October 26, 2010, 09:11:13 AM
I'm getting tired of all these posts saying that next year's class is "Jamil and Juan."
At present, our 2011 recruiting class is Juan Anderson. He's a great player and I'm happy he's coming. But let's not try to dress up the class by repeatedly suggesting that Jamil Wilson is part of the class -- he's not. Our 2011 class will be judged by the kids that Buzz signs for that class. As of right now, the class is pretty thin.
How dare you state that the class is thin. To some of the thin skinned people, that is blasphemy, because we will have 7 top 100 recruits on the roster next year.
Quote from: willie warrior on October 26, 2010, 10:54:05 AM
How dare you state that the class is thin. To some of the thin skinned people, that is blasphemy, because we will have 7 top 100 recruits on the roster next year.
Hi Willie - Guess what...Buzz will either sign 2 more kids..1 this fall and 1 in the spring..which will fill the class..and not make it "thin." Or, Buzz will bank one of the scholarships and not waste it on some kid who has NO chance to ever play high major ball...a la Niv Berkowitz.
There are plenty of 3 star recruits out there that would want to come to Marquette if offered the chance to do so...it's not about being able to sign 3 players this class..we could do that right now if we wanted..but its about signing the best possible players you can. So we swung and missed with some Top 50 guys who would have been 2nd or 3rd string on the depth chart at MU. Big Deal.
Quote from: willie warrior on October 26, 2010, 10:54:05 AM
How dare you state that the class is thin. To some of the thin skinned people, that is blasphemy, because we will have 7 top 100 recruits on the roster next year.
You complain the most about our recruiting.
Quote from: Ners on October 26, 2010, 11:33:25 AM
Hi Willie - Guess what...Buzz will either sign 2 more kids..1 this fall and 1 in the spring..which will fill the class..and not make it "thin." Or, Buzz will bank one of the scholarships and not waste it on some kid who has NO chance to ever play high major ball...a la Niv Berkowitz.
There are plenty of 3 star recruits out there that would want to come to Marquette if offered the chance to do so...it's not about being able to sign 3 players this class..we could do that right now if we wanted..but its about signing the best possible players you can. So we swung and missed with some Top 50 guys who would have been 2nd or 3rd string on the depth chart at MU. Big Deal.
Why do you keep saying 3 stars...I was told here we would not take 3 stars anymore.
Alright Chicos....
God, not only do you know how to beat a dead horse, you manage to run it over a few times, stomp on it, and light it on fire.
We get it.
Quote from: Benny B on October 26, 2010, 09:32:22 AM
In Buzz We Trust. C'est la vie. Que sera sera. A penny saved is a penny earned.
Out of curiosity... what would it take to silence the negativity about "lost recruits" (not this thread specifically, but in general over the last couple months)?? Recruiting has been as good (if not better) in the past few years than it has since the 70's. Marquette is one of TWO teams that has won 10 games in the Big East every year since 2005. Marquette continues to outperform expectations. This small university in Milwaukee is fielding a basketball team that is competing against, and on some nights beating, the best basketball teams in the country.
Will the critics ever be satisfied? What more can we ask for? A Big East Tournament Championship? A Sweet Sixteen Appearance? Another Final Four? A National Championship? Buzz ascending on the Third Day?
I think a sweet 16 run would silence a lot of people. The consistency is great, love it, hard to really ask for more in the regular season, and I think we will get a big east title sooner than later. But we just haven't had any postseason results since the final four season. And for all of the success we have had in the regular season, that is frustrating. Because, really, it's consistent postseason success that means the most, from players, to alumni, to recruits and the administration.
Hang on a second hear. I thought Buzz didn't recruit 3 stars anymore but 4 and 5 stars. Did I miss something here?
Quote from: Jay-Z on October 26, 2010, 03:30:02 PM
Hang on a second hear. I thought Buzz didn't recruit 3 stars anymore but 4 and 5 stars. Did I miss something here?
1. You just stole someone's beat-to-death joke and tried to use it... in the same thread they were? weak.
2. It's Jeezy, not Jesus. Fool.
Quote from: Skatastrophy on October 26, 2010, 03:38:54 PM
1. You just stole someone's beat-to-death joke and tried to use it... in the same thread they were?
Yayyyyyy...you can read
Quote from: dwaderoy2004 on October 26, 2010, 03:22:13 PM
I think a sweet 16 run would silence a lot of people. The consistency is great, love it, hard to really ask for more in the regular season, and I think we will get a big east title sooner than later. But we just haven't had any postseason results since the final four season. And for all of the success we have had in the regular season, that is frustrating. Because, really, it's consistent postseason success that means the most, from players, to alumni, to recruits and the administration.
The sad reality about MU basketball the last 5 years is that we have truly been snake bitten by injuries and buzzer beaters come Big East and NCAA tourney time. That's not excuse making either, it is just a reality. As Buzz said all of last year our margin for error has been so small...largely due to having a roster of only about 5-6 true, Big East caliber players...but then having significant talent drop off for players 6-12 on the roster. As Buzz says...getting the roster to where we have 13 high major players is what is going to take this program to the next level.
My prediction: These next 5 years will be some glory years for MU basketball, and some of the bad breaks we've had the last 5 years won't continue, but we might even get a little bit of "make up" from the basketball gods. I'll be shocked if we don't get to a Final Four in the next 5 years.
Quote from: Jay-Z on October 26, 2010, 03:41:20 PM
Yayyyyyy...you can read
(http://mirror.servut.us/kuvat/hurr.jpg)
Quote from: Ners on October 26, 2010, 03:45:15 PM
The sad reality about MU basketball the last 5 years is that we have truly been snake bitten by injuries and buzzer beaters come Big East and NCAA tourney time. That's not excuse making either, it is just a reality. As Buzz said all of last year our margin for error has been so small...largely due to having a roster of only about 5-6 true, Big East caliber players...but then having significant talent drop off for players 6-12 on the roster. As Buzz says...getting the roster to where we have 13 high major players is what is going to take this program to the next level.
My prediction: These next 5 years will be some glory years for MU basketball, and some of the bad breaks we've had the last 5 years won't continue, but we might even get a little bit of "make up" from the basketball gods. I'll be shocked if we don't get to a Final Four in the next 5 years.
Please don't jinx us. I don't think any team should be shocked to NOT go to a Final Four in 5 years! The Tournament is referred to as Madness for a reason. It is unpredictable more than any other sport. I don't care if you are Duke, KU, UNC or UK, you cannot simply "expect" to go to a Final Four just because you have a certain amount of talent....every team that makes it has a lot of breaks go their way - and not just in the tourney.
Quote from: Ners on October 26, 2010, 03:45:15 PM
My prediction: These next 5 years will be some glory years for MU basketball, and some of the bad breaks we've had the last 5 years won't continue, but we might even get a little bit of "make up" from the basketball gods. I'll be shocked if we don't get to a Final Four in the next 5 years.
I love your enthusiasm for the program and find myself agreeing with your POV more often than not, but this statement is borderline insane. I hope you are right but man, I don't have that same feeling. I do think we'll be a good team and have success in the regular season and continue to make the tournament...BUT lots of stars have to align to get to a Final Four...again, hope like hell you are right.
Quote from: Aughnanure on October 26, 2010, 03:53:58 PM
Please don't jinx us. I don't think any team should be shocked to NOT go to a Final Four in 5 years! The Tournament is referred to as Madness for a reason. It is unpredictable more than any other sport. I don't care if you are Duke, KU, UNC or UK, you cannot simply "expect" to go to a Final Four just because you have a certain amount of talent....every team that makes it has a lot of breaks go their way - and not just in the tourney.
Can you explain your logic behind a jinx? I'd like to hear how you think posting something on a message board by a fan affects the outcome of a basketball tournament.
Give it your best shot.
Quote from: Ners on October 26, 2010, 03:45:15 PM
I'll be shocked if we don't get to a Final Four in the next 5 years.
Quote from: Ners on October 26, 2010, 03:45:15 PM
I'll be shocked if we don't get to a Final Four in the next 5 years.
Quote from: Ners on October 26, 2010, 03:45:15 PM
I'll be shocked if we don't get to a Final Four in the next 5 years.
Quote from: Ners on October 26, 2010, 03:45:15 PM
I'll be shocked if we don't get to a Final Four in the next 5 years.
Anyone want to take this one?
Quote from: Jay-Z on October 26, 2010, 04:02:42 PM
Anyone want to take this one?
1977 to 2003 was 26 years. I hope we get there before that, but at this point I be elated if we did not get to the sweet 16 at least once in the next 5 years. We need to stay away form the big injury and get good matchups. The NCAA is often about matchups.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on October 26, 2010, 01:18:17 PM
Alright Chicos....
God, not only do you know how to beat a dead horse, you manage to run it over a few times, stomp on it, and light it on fire.
We get it.
Frequency...is the advertising \ marketing background in me. Or maybe it's just to counter the post after post after post that said we wouldn't sink so low to get those players. ;)
Quote from: Jay-Z on October 26, 2010, 04:00:58 PM
Can you explain your logic behind a jinx? I'd like to hear how you think posting something on a message board by a fan affects the outcome of a basketball tournament.
Give it your best shot.
I'd like to know this as well. I hate it if I'm watching a game on TV and someone actually believes in a jinx. Same for the internet. Like my mind waves are going to transmit across the air to a place 100's of miles away and actually effect events.... wow!!
Quote from: Jay-Z on October 26, 2010, 04:00:58 PM
Can you explain your logic behind a jinx? I'd like to hear how you think posting something on a message board by a fan affects the outcome of a basketball tournament.
Give it your best shot.
Are you joking? No, I don't believe in superstition in any way and don't think it will be affecting any game. But, really? Are you really taking that THAT seriously? Its just a saying. Its like saying a "a watched pot never boils." Does it ever boil? Yes, but it may feel like it never will.
If you don't understand what someone means by "don't jinx it," you should probably not ask for the logic behind it.
Quote from: Aughnanure on October 26, 2010, 04:10:50 PM
Are you joking? No, I don't believe in superstition in any way and don't think it will be affecting any game. But, really? Are you really taking that THAT seriously? Its just a saying. Its like saying a "a watched pot never boils." Does it ever boil? Yes, but it may feel like it never will.
If you don't understand what someone means by "don't jinx it," you should probably not ask for the logic behind it.
Unfortunately, there are a lot of people that actually belive in a jinx. Glad to know that you are not one of them.
Quote from: Aughnanure on October 26, 2010, 04:10:50 PM
Are you joking? No, I don't believe in superstition in any way and don't think it will be affecting any game. But, really? Are you really taking that THAT seriously? Its just a saying. Its like saying a "a watched pot never boils." Does it ever boil? Yes, but it may feel like it never will.
If you don't understand what someone means by "don't jinx it," you should probably not ask for the logic behind it.
You're probably the guy who freaks out when you're buddy says, "We're going to win this one," during the game before it is over while MU has the lead.
Quote from: Jay-Z on October 26, 2010, 03:30:02 PM
Hang on a second hear. I thought Buzz didn't recruit 3 stars anymore but 4 and 5 stars. Did I miss something here?
Three stars belong in Bloomington, IN.
Quote from: Jay-Z on October 26, 2010, 04:14:14 PM
You're probably the guy who freaks out when you're buddy says, "We're going to win this one," during the game before it is over while MU has the lead.
Actually Im that guy that says that...and then we lose.
Hmm...most times when we go off-topic, it's Buzz v Crean. This time it's, uhh...well...erm...I don't even really know what this thread is about anymore. Recycled jokes 2 posts or less later and a Final Four jinx?
Quote from: Jay-Z on October 26, 2010, 04:02:42 PM
Anyone want to take this one?
As the original poster, can I take this one? It is a bold statement for sure..no doubt..but my crystal ball tells me Buzz can coach his A$$ off, we have more depth of talent than at any time I can remember in the last 20 years, we've had our fair share of bad luck/injuries come tourney time in the past. Hell, we were basically 2 seconds away last year from being a Sweet 16 team..as Washington DRUBBED New Mexico State..pretty sure we would have beat them.
I do agree that matchups/bracket can be HUGE in determining how far a team will go...but..usually the cream rises to the top and it is very rare that a team seeded lower than 3 makes the Final Four. Assuming DJO stays for next year..I could easily see us competing for a Big East Championship..which usually results in a 1 seed in the NCAA...maybe we get a 2 or 3 seed in 2012..but at that point we have a legit chance to go on a run...
I like DJO, but he's not THAT good...yet!
A four year recruiting battle between Illinois and Depaul,pulease. Marquette
is a much better school with a tradition those two can't touch...
Quote from: Skatastrophy on October 26, 2010, 03:38:54 PM
2. It's Jeezy, not Jesus. Fool.
+1
hahaha, Jesus payin LeBron...
Quote from: Randy on October 26, 2010, 06:27:53 PM
A four year recruiting battle between Illinois and Depaul,pulease. Marquette
is a much better school with a tradition those two can't touch...
You do realize that Illinois is a higher ranked educational institution by pretty much all publications right? And that although they have never won a championship, Illinois' program is among the winningest of all time. Not to mention they are stocked with at least as much young talent as Marquette right now along with a coach who has already made the championship game. Illinois has a top recruiting assistant coach who has locked down their borders, Shaw already knows most of the players from AAU ball, and it is his home state school.
Marquette has a ton to offer too, but to say it is cut and dry towards MU...well I disagree.
However against DePaul, I agree :D
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on October 26, 2010, 04:10:29 PM
Frequency...is the advertising \ marketing background in me. Or maybe it's just to counter the post after post after post that said we wouldn't sink so low to get those players. ;)
Don't you know that frequency is dead? It's all about engagement now! ::)
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on October 27, 2010, 07:05:56 AM
Don't you know that frequency is dead? It's all about engagement now! ::)
It's part of the mix, it most certainly isn't the lead pony....yet. Besides, you need to lead the horse to water and more than half this country (mostly due to age) that want nothing to do with engagement marketing. So frequency is still a heavy player but will will lessen as the younger folks eventually outpace the older dudes. Not there yet.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on October 27, 2010, 07:36:32 AM
It's part of the mix, it most certainly isn't the lead pony....yet. Besides, you need to lead the horse to water and more than half this country (mostly due to age) that want nothing to do with engagement marketing. So frequency is still a heavy player but will will lessen as the younger folks eventually outpace the older dudes. Not there yet.
OT marketing question for you Chico (or anyone else): what the hell is the point of a 90 second Nike spot? Is there anywhere that that spot can actually air? Does anyone run 90 second spots? Or are they just banking on the fact that ESPN will run it
on Sportscenter (not during a commercial break) and people will talk about it and watch it on the internet? I'm just amazed that Nike can create what seems like an "unairable" spot and then get it played/discussed all over the place...possibly without paying anyone to play it.
Quote from: StillAWarrior on October 27, 2010, 07:54:54 AM
What the hell is the point of a 90 second Nike spot? Is there anywhere that that spot can actually air? Does anyone run 90 second spots? Or are they just banking on the fact that ESPN will run it on Sportscenter (not during a commercial break) and people will talk about it and watch it on the internet? I'm just amazed that Nike can create what seems like an "unairable" spot and then get it played/discussed all over the place...possibly without paying anyone to play it.
I see it as twofold. 1) They can run it on the internet and get a much larger buzz than if it was only 30 seconds. Remember, NIke isn't so much trying to sell shoes with ads like these. They are trying to go viral and get people to talk about it, which is exactly what happened.
2)On TV, they will cut down the commercial into 30 second blips. The same thing happened with the Nike ad campaign "write the future" during the World Cup. The commercial was 3 minutes long online, on TV, they cut it into chunks and had 6 commercials ready.
And sometimes these ads will be played in full, and will constitute the entire ad break. This happened many times during the World Cup coverage, although not necessarily during games. And this ad isn't nearly as long as that one.
Difference is, that World Cup ad was Awesome.
Quote from: StillAWarrior on October 27, 2010, 07:54:54 AM
OT marketing question for you Chico (or anyone else): what the hell is the point of a 90 second Nike spot? Is there anywhere that that spot can actually air? Does anyone run 90 second spots? Or are they just banking on the fact that ESPN will run it on Sportscenter (not during a commercial break) and people will talk about it and watch it on the internet? I'm just amazed that Nike can create what seems like an "unairable" spot and then get it played/discussed all over the place...possibly without paying anyone to play it.
Nike ran all 90 seconds of it last night, I believe between the 1st and 2nd quarters of the game.
Quote from: reinko on October 27, 2010, 11:46:41 AM
Nike ran all 90 seconds of it last night, I believe between the 1st and 2nd quarters of the game.
That can easily be done...most marketers can't afford it, but it can be done. Probably not on all networks. It's also much easier to do on a National level than on a specific market (Chicago, Atlanta, etc.) level.
"Don't give up, don't ever give up." - Jim Valvano
Back to Shaw talk... is everyone ready to get geared up for disappointment #5 tomorrow afternoon?!? Outside of Q-Miller, the possibility of Shaw choosing Marquette had me really excited. These recent reports (or leaks) saying he's chosen U of IL is really upsetting. Let's hope for an upset!
Quote from: TomW1365 on October 27, 2010, 02:33:29 PM
Back to Shaw talk... is everyone ready to get geared up for disappointment #5 tomorrow afternoon?!? Outside of Q-Miller, the possibility of Shaw choosing Marquette had me really excited. These recent reports (or leaks) saying he's chosen U of IL is really upsetting. Let's hope for an upset!
I am definitely not giving up on Shaw. I have heard some rumors that Illinois isn't a lock.
Could you specify who your sources are? It gives us more assurance :)
Google or Twitter Mike Shaw
EDIT;
For example: http://www.illinoisloyalty.com/Forums/showthread.php?p=358156
Official : http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/1016344.html
Quote from: Aughnanure on October 28, 2010, 01:00:44 PM
Official : http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/1016344.html
Uh Oh
Well, that sucks :(
Illinois is going to be a very tough team. That is one heck of a recruiting class for Bruce Weber. You can put two losses on the board for Indiana if you want some kind of positive spin. (I didn't say Wisco because it hurts our SOS, though Shaw is the athletic big man who will give Bo trouble)