1) Damian Saunders had 16 points, 16 rebounds, 6 steals, 3 blocks, and 2 assists in a 52-50 win over the Iowa Hawkeyes. (http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/boxscore?gameId=293212294)
2) Scott Christopherson had 15 points, 4 rebounds, and 5 assists in 29 minutes as Iowa State defeated Drake 90-70 (http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/boxscore?gameId=293212181). More impressive is Lucca Staiger's 32 points on 10 of 16 from the 3pt.
3) Tyshawn Taylor had 2 points, 3 rebounds, 5 assists, and 7 turnovers in a 57-55 win over Memphis.
4) Patrick Hazel (Boston U) and Nick Williams (Ole Miss) will sit out the entire season due to NCAA transfer rules.
5) Trevor Mbakwe hasn't played yet for Minnesota. :)
Who cares?
I, for one, care. Thanks for the information. Always interesting to see how the former-MU player's are doing.
Did BB beat South Carolina-Upstate?
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on November 18, 2009, 01:07:10 AM
5) Trevor Mbakwe hasn't played yet for Minnesota. :)
Based on some of the talk this offseason, Mbakwe was due to make a splash for Minnesota this year... what happened?
Eric Williams of MU is getting more minutes!
Quote from: TomW1365 on November 18, 2009, 10:09:04 AM
Eric Williams is getting more P.T. than Mbakwe?!? Yeesh.
Well, Mbakwe is out pending trial for his assault in FL. Not a "not getting PT" kind of situation.
Quote from: MU_B2002 on November 18, 2009, 10:15:29 AM
Well, Mbakwe is out pending trial for his assault in FL. Not a "not getting PT" kind of situation.
Good catch... I forgot about that. Hopefully everything works out.
More Mbakwe: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=4616237
You forgot one! :)
Brett Roseboro played 6 minutes for St. Bonaventure against St. John's last night...0-1 FG, 1 steal, 1 TO, 1 foul.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/boxscore?gameId=293212599 (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/boxscore?gameId=293212599)
Roseboro will get more PT. He's nursing a recently separated shoulder.
Mbakwe - of the trouble trio at Minnesota (the other two being Royce White [Mr. Basketball, highly rated frosh and Devron Bostick [Racine, WI JUCO transfer that played 11 mins/game last year for the Gophers], he's the only one to make an appearance in street clothes on the bench for both games this year (Bostick due to classes most likely... Royce due to him being a jagoff).
I doubt Royce or Trevor will ever play for the maroon and gold. Very upsetting.
Where did Bostick play in Racine?
Quote from: copious1218 on November 18, 2009, 11:15:21 AM
Where did Bostick play in Racine?
Didn't - played in Illinois for JUCO, but is from Racine, WI.
Quote from: copious1218 on November 18, 2009, 11:15:21 AM
Where did Bostick play in Racine?
he played high school ball at St. Cat's.
Thanks bma, I should have clarified my question. I went to HS in Racine so I'm always interested to follow others from there.
Quote from: copious1218 on November 18, 2009, 11:32:14 AM
Thanks bma, I should have clarified my question. I went to HS in Racine so I'm always interested to follow others from there.
No...I think Jay Bee is under the impression that players go right from middle school to JUCO.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on November 18, 2009, 11:35:36 AM
No...I think Jay Bee is under the impression that players go right from middle school to JUCO.
No, I thought the guy was asking where did he play JUCO ball as my initial post wasn't clear that I was saying he's a JUCO guy AND originally from Racine. I also think certain things of you.
Quote from: GOMU1104 on November 18, 2009, 05:48:20 AM
Who cares?
It's interesting to see a MU recruit at 6'7'' who grabs 35 rebounds over two games. Perhaps we should have Maymon take a chair and learn some knowledge from the Duquesne star.
Quote from: The Golden Avalanche on November 18, 2009, 11:56:36 AM
It's interesting to see a MU recruit at 6'7'' who grabs 35 rebounds over two games. Perhaps we should have Maymon take a chair and learn some knowledge from the Duquesne star.
They arent a part of the program, so it isnt "MU-related BK news"
Quote from: GOMU1104 on November 18, 2009, 01:08:32 PM
They arent a part of the program, so it isnt "MU-related BK news"
I hear ya. Your problem is one of semantics with the thread title, not necessarily the content of the thread.
My main point is that at 6'7'' Saunders is showing how to rebound. We'll need that this season if we continue forward with a preferred forward tandem of Butler--Hayward--Maymon.
Can't remember the history of Damian Saunders - did he sign with MU, but then had trouble or transferred? Did he ever enroll/practice with the team?
Nice game for Christopherson. Always liked that kid, hope he does well.
Quote from: Ners on November 18, 2009, 02:02:58 PM
Can't remember the history of Damian Saunders - did he sign with MU, but then had trouble or transferred? Did he ever enroll/practice with the team?
The official excuse was that he wasn't admitted due to academic issues, though those "issues" were somehow not discovered until days before the fall semester was to start instead of several months earlier. Basically we had four players coming in with three open scholarships, you do the math. Saunders was cast off to Duquesne where he has been outstanding, Christopherson was cast off after a year to Iowa State where he was been playing very well, Mbakwe left, and Hazel was cast off after two years to Boston U. So it turned out to be a completely lost recruiting class.
Who was the head coach who recruited that entire lost class?
Quote from: chapman on November 18, 2009, 02:47:34 PM
The official excuse was that he wasn't admitted due to academic issues, though those "issues" were somehow not discovered until days before the fall semester was to start instead of several months earlier. Basically we had four players coming in with three open scholarships, you do the math. Saunders was cast off to Duquesne where he has been outstanding, Christopherson was cast off after a year to Iowa State where he was been playing very well, Mbakwe left, and Hazel was cast off after two years to Boston U. So it turned out to be a completely lost recruiting class.
Why wasnt Hazel just "cast off" then...seeing as Saunders was clearly the better player.
There was more to the situation.
Quote from: chapman on November 18, 2009, 02:47:34 PM
The official excuse was that he wasn't admitted due to academic issues, though those "issues" were somehow not discovered until days before the fall semester was to start instead of several months earlier. Basically we had four players coming in with three open scholarships, you do the math. Saunders was cast off to Duquesne where he has been outstanding, Christopherson was cast off after a year to Iowa State where he was been playing very well, Mbakwe left, and Hazel was cast off after two years to Boston U. So it turned out to be a completely lost recruiting class.
Lot more to it than that.
And Christopherson wasn't cast off. He chose to leave as soon as Crean left. If Crean were still here, Scott would be too.
Quote from: bma725 on November 18, 2009, 03:13:08 PM
Lot more to it than that.
And Christopherson wasn't cast off. He chose to leave as soon as Crean left. If Crean were still here, Scott would be too.
Only other thing to it is getting caught hotboxing during the summer. If it didn't look good to use that as an excuse that something else had to be made up then so be it. If there was a lot more than 4 scholarships < 3 available spots it would and should have been resolved much earlier than a couple days before the kid was to arrive on campus. The only other thing he could that could have got a kid abandoned by MU and happily added to Duquesne's roster in a week at that time would have been insulting the Harbaughs.
Christopherson didn't fit Buzz's system or ideal type of player, so he wasn't going to be scoring in double figures every game this year if he was still with us. He wouldn't even have made double figures in minutes. Call the situation what you want.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on November 18, 2009, 02:50:53 PM
Who was the head coach who recruited that entire lost class?
I believe some players departed AFTER that coach left not because he was going to stay.
Quote from: bma725 on November 18, 2009, 03:13:08 PM
Lot more to it than that.
And Christopherson wasn't cast off. He chose to leave as soon as Crean left. If Crean were still here, Scott would be too.
Ding ding ding....we have a winner!!
I wish we had a spot up shooter like him on this team. His defense wasn't great as a freshman, but if he's a Big 12 player, I think he could have done well in the Big East as well.
Quote from: chapman on November 18, 2009, 03:28:19 PM
Only other thing to it is getting caught hotboxing during the summer. If it didn't look good to use that as an excuse that something else had to be made up then so be it. If there was a lot more than 4 scholarships < 3 available spots it would and should have been resolved much earlier than a couple days before the kid was to arrive on campus. The only other thing he could that could have got a kid abandoned by MU and happily added to Duquesne's roster in a week at that time would have been insulting the Harbaughs.
Christopherson didn't fit Buzz's system or ideal type of player, so he wasn't going to be scoring in double figures every game this year if he was still with us. He wouldn't even have made double figures in minutes. Call the situation what you want.
You think you know everything, huh?
Quote from: GOMU1104 on November 18, 2009, 03:43:46 PM
You think you know everything, huh?
Was this a looking in the mirror Stuart Smalley-type post?
The scholarship situation was a problem going into that season (3 schollies for 4 players), and it was ultimately coming down to Hazel or Saunders losing out for obvious reasons. If I remember correctly, Saunders got in trouble at home in the spring/summer prior......think he was in a car that was pulled over that had marijuana in it. Damien was tied into the problem which made an easy decision for Crean to make. Saunders was released.
Quote from: The Golden Avalanche on November 18, 2009, 07:44:32 PM
Was this a looking in the mirror Stuart Smalley-type post?
Honestly...I dont know the EXACT circumstances surrounding Saunders' departure. However, I know two things:
1) There is ALWAYS more to every story, than what is reported in the media.
2) For more a long time, everyone that can be considered an "insider" into MU hoops (Dodds, IWB, Mark Miller, BMA) have been saying that there was more to Saunders' situation than the lack of open schollys, or his "extracurriculars"...While they havent divulged the real reasons, I will take their emphatic word for it.
Oh I failed to mention II in Puerto Rico to play in a basketball tournament and...work on a tan ;)
He was never an eagle, but Jamil Wilson off to a solid start out in Oregon.
19 min, 6 pts, 7 boards a game.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/teams/stats?teamId=2483