NBA Thread 2020-21

[MuggsyB]

Bitch when they double off Green. Bitch when they don’t. Hard to take you seriously.

They just allowed Durant to catch the ball 15 feet from the rim and go one on one vs Middleton on an island.  WTF FBM?  The guy is like 15-20?  Yes, Green has killed them but no one else has hit jack squat. 

[PGsHeroes32]

They just allowed Duraht to catch the ball 15 feet from the rim and go one on one vs Middleton on an island.  WTF FBM?  The guy is like 15-20?  Yes, Green has killed them but no one else has hit jack squat.

But you literally were complaining strictly about Green getting open 3s and you blamed it all on Bud. You cannot have it every way you want.

The coaching to allow Durant to absolutely shred them on pick and rolls was horrendous. Not many people will argue that.

But you are calling every defensive option on Durant bad and Buds fault. Doesn't work that way.

[MU82]

Great players beat you sometimes. The Bucks need to answer when they’re on offense.

But every possession, whichever Buck has the ball at halfcourt goes 1-on-1. Holiday has been especially terrible, with several possessions reminiscent of the worst of Markus - dribble the clock down and then force a bad shot, with no teammate ever touching the basketball.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

But you literally were complaining strictly about Green getting open 3s and you blamed it all on Bud. You cannot have it every way you want.

The coaching to allow Durant to absolutely shred them on pick and rolls was horrendous. Not many people will argue that.

But you are calling every defensive option on Durant bad and Buds fault. Doesn't work that way.

Yep. Complaining about everything is exhausting.

[MuggsyB]

But you literally were complaining strictly about Green getting open 3s and you blamed it all on Bud. You cannot have it every way you want.

The coaching to allow Durant to absolutely shred them on pick and rolls was horrendous. Not many people will argue that.

But you are calling every defensive option on Durant bad and Buds fault. Doesn't work that way.

Both Green's threes and Durant isoing are Budenholzer's fault.  Have you looked at the stats of the other Nets players?

[MU82]

Sorry, but the last Buck possession suck. Giannis has a hampered Hardennon the block and settles for a 15-foot fadeaway.

The Nets will take that 100 times out of 100.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

My complaints are more on the offensive end right now.

[PGsHeroes32]

Both Green's threes and Durant isoing are Budenholzer's fault.  Have you looked at the stats of the other Nets players?

So double team Durant and Green?

Have the other 3 Nets play 3 on 1?

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Both Green's threes and Durant isoing are Budenholzer's fault.  Have you looked at the stats of the other Nets players?

Lol. I guess I’ll just have to ignore you in these threads.

[MuggsyB]

So double team Durant and Green?

Have the other 3 Nets play 3 on 1?

You get the ball out of Durant's hands.  Period.

[PGsHeroes32]

My one question is one that many are probably wondering.

Why has Giannis a supposed DPOY not guarded Durant at all?


Unless Bud has flat out told him no. This falls on both coach and player imo.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

I really don’t know what you can do when he is hitting those shots. They are spreading the floor and the double teams have to come from far away. Middleton’s defense wasn’t bad there either.

[MuggsyB]

Dammit.

[PGsHeroes32]

You get the ball out of Durant's hands.  Period.

"Terrible job by the Bucks.  Inexcusable they allowed the Nets back in the game.  This guy is shooting practice triples and is in rhythm.  Poor attention to detail by Budenholzer."

That's you complaining about the ball leaving Durants hands.

This is some like multiple personality type stuff you got going on here.

[MuggsyB]

I really don’t know what you can do when he is hitting those shots. They are spreading the floor and the double teams have to come from far away. Middleton’s defense wasn’t bad there either.

The Bucks had no business losing this game FBM.  We may disagree on particulars but I'm pretty sure you agree with this being a debacle.

[Jockey]

If the Bucks lose game 6, Bud will be fired.

[GB Warrior]

If the Bucks lose game 6, Bud will be fired.

Not sure Bud is back if they win game 6. No adjustments down the stretch, just banking on regression.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

My complaints are more the panic on the offensive end after running good offense all night. They respond by running isolations which hasn’t worked all series.

[Jockey]

My complaints are more the panic on the offensive end after running good offense all night. They respond by running isolations which hasn’t worked all series.

You’re right. It’s the same thing that has happened for 3 years in a row now.

[wadesworld]

My complaint is you have two First Team All Defensive players and neither of them spent a single possession on the best player in the world who was going for a 49 point triple double.

Jrue should’ve spent the first two minutes on Harden and when you realized Harden was a statue he shouldn’t have spent a single possession guarding him. Instead Bud kept him glued to Harden for 48 minutes. That’s insanity.

[Jockey]

My complaint is you have two First Team All Defensive players and neither of them spent a single possession on the best player in the world who was going for a 49 point triple double.

Jrue should’ve spent the first two minutes on Harden and when you realized Harden was a statue he shouldn’t have spent a single possession guarding him. Instead Bud kept him glued to Harden for 48 minutes. That’s insanity.

I think in-game adjustments have always been Bud’s Achilles heel.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

My complaint is you have two First Team All Defensive players and neither of them spent a single possession on the best player in the world who was going for a 49 point triple double.

Jrue should’ve spent the first two minutes on Harden and when you realized Harden was a statue he shouldn’t have spent a single possession guarding him. Instead Bud kept him glued to Harden for 48 minutes. That’s insanity.

Jrue hasn’t played KD very well this series, but I don’t know why they kept Tucker or Giannis off of him at the end.

[MU82]

In Muggsy’s defense …

In the 3Q, Durant wasn’t killing the Bucks on every possession. He’d be posting up and they kept using Green’s man to double him, leaving Green WIDE open. After awhile, you have to respect Green and at least keep somebody within a mile of him.

And then, down the stretch, Durant was absolutely on fire. On fire! So you say, “OK, even if we have to leave somebody else open, we have to do what we can to make things tougher for him.”

It’s an in-game adjustment.

Both can be true: You can’t leave Green wide, wide open in the 3Q when he keeps hitting 3s, AND you have to focus completely on Durant as he’s taking over down the stretch.

Having said all that, I think the Bucks lost because they stopped playing good team offense. Durant was gonna get his, but the Bucks blew possession after possession going 1-on-1.

[cheebs09]

My complaints are more the panic on the offensive end after running good offense all night. They respond by running isolations which hasn’t worked all series.

Yea. I think the Bucks need a new coach, but it’s not all on him. It’s like Packer fans blaming McCarthy. Some of it is the same stuff as when Kidd was there. Giannis goes iso and isn’t dynamic enough to do that under pressure. Then Middleton goes iso and forces a tough shot.

I think the Bucks need a new voice, but I don’t think they are filled with high BBall IQ or calm under pressure guys in their star positions.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

In Muggsy’s defense …

In the 3Q, Durant wasn’t killing the Bucks on every possession. He’d be posting up and they kept using Green’s man to double him, leaving Green WIDE open. After awhile, you have to respect Green and at least keep somebody within a mile of him.

And then, down the stretch, Durant was absolutely on fire. On fire! So you say, “OK, even if we have to leave somebody else open, we have to do what we can to make things tougher for him.”

It’s an in-game adjustment.

Both can be true: You can’t leave Green wide, wide open in the 3Q when he keeps hitting 3s, AND you have to focus completely on Durant as he’s taking over down the stretch.

Having said all that, I think the Bucks lost because they stopped playing good team offense. Durant was gonna get his, but the Bucks blew possession after possession going 1-on-1.

Durant was killing them by passing out of the double teams as soon as they ran the offense through KD. They didn’t play Claxton all second half because the strategy was clear.