NBA Thread 2020-21

[wadesworld]

That call to end the Bucks game was sure something.

[GooooMarquette]

I haven't followed very closely but is there a reason he's nor in the MVP discussion?  Would that team win 15 games without him?

I think it’s because guys rarely get much notice for MVP when their team is on the fringe of making the playoffs. But you’re right; Golden State would be positively awful without him.

[MuggsyB]

I think it’s because guys rarely get much notice for MVP when their team is on the fringe of making the playoffs. But you’re right; Golden State would be positively awful without him.

He's never had a season where he's shot under 41% from distance.  Think about that for a second.  He's way more than just a shooter but he's certainly the best long-distance shooter ever.  The thing is unlike other great shooters he can spot-up and drain it off the dribble.  He's also only shooting .922 from the line this year.  Tough question but where would you rank him all-time?  I think he's top 15.  Certainly the best under 6'4.  I actually think he's underrated because he creates so many opportunities for his teammates.

[cheebs09]

Really glad the Bucks picked Monta Ellis over Steph in the Bogut trade so they could make a run at the 8 seed. Granted, they might have done NBA fans a favor because I don’t think Steph becomes this good with that coaching staff.

[forgetful]

I haven't followed very closely but is there a reason he's nor in the MVP discussion?  Would that team win 15 games without him?

There was some chatter earlier in the year, and now again during this run, but not as much as is deserved. Likely, simply due to their record.

But despite his supernatural performances, Jokic has been unreal from a statistical perspective and should be the hands down favorite. If Embiid returns to his earlier season form he is also a front runner.

Jokic, Embiid, Curry, Harden, Giannis, and Lillard, are all having great years and down the stretch we'll have to see who differentiates themselves.

No one else should even be in the conversation.

[MU82]

There was some chatter earlier in the year, and now again during this run, but not as much as is deserved. Likely, simply due to their record.

But despite his supernatural performances, Jokic has been unreal from a statistical perspective and should be the hands down favorite. If Embiid returns to his earlier season form he is also a front runner.

Jokic, Embiid, Curry, Harden, Giannis, and Lillard, are all having great years and down the stretch we'll have to see who differentiates themselves.

No one else should even be in the conversation.

I know you hate LeBron so much that you would be saying he’s undeserving even if the Lakers were unbeaten and he were averaging 50-30-20.

But they’re not, he’s not, and I agree with your list.

[Jockey]

He's never had a season where he's shot under 41% from distance.  Think about that for a second.  He's way more than just a shooter but he's certainly the best long-distance shooter ever.  The thing is unlike other great shooters he can spot-up and drain it off the dribble.  He's also only shooting .922 from the line this year.  Tough question but where would you rank him all-time?  I think he's top 15.  Certainly the best under 6'4.  I actually think he's underrated because he creates so many opportunities for his teammates.

I think he could end up borderline top 10. Besides the obvious greatness, he has changed the way the game is played.

Candidates for lower end of top 10 includes guys like Kobe, Oscar, Duncan, Shaq, Moses, West, Hakeem. I think Steph is in that group.

[MuggsyB]

I think he could end up borderline top 10. Besides the obvious greatness, he has changed the way the game is played.

Candidates for lower end of top 10 includes guys like Kobe, Oscar, Duncan, Shaq, Moses, West, Hakeem. I think Steph is in that group.

Is the top 6?

Jordan
Kareem
Lebron
Wilt
Bird
Magic

As far a 7-10 I think it's inordinately difficult.  Can you really not have Russell?  I have a really tough time not having Shaq there as well.  It's really, really, tough after what I would imagine is most people's 1-6.

[Jockey]

Is the top 6?

Jordan
Kareem
Lebron
Wilt
Bird
Magic

As far a 7-10 I think it's inordinately difficult.  Can you really not have Russell?  I have a really tough time not having Shaq there as well.  It's really, really, tough after what I would imagine is most people's 1-6.

It’s easy to name the top guys. It’s hard to set a particular order for them.

Even when narrowing it down to top 3 - MJ, Lebron, and Kareem - it’s hard to put then in order.

[GooooMarquette]

It’s easy to name the top guys. It’s hard to set a particular order for them.

Even when narrowing it down to top 3 - MJ, Lebron, and Kareem - it’s hard to put then in order.

Agreed. And I think part of the difficulty is that those three guys had such monumentally different games.

[Spaniel with a Short Tail]

Didn't Curry's run start with Juan getting more minutes!?!

[forgetful]

I know you hate LeBron so much that you would be saying he’s undeserving even if the Lakers were unbeaten and he were averaging 50-30-20.

50-30-20 and unbeaten, and I might, I emphasize might, give it to him. 40-20-10 and 1 loss, no chance in hell.

[Pakuni]

What's up with Tyler Herro?

https://sports.yahoo.com/report-heat-concerned-tyler-herro-191203649.html

[cheebs09]

What's up with Tyler Herro?

https://sports.yahoo.com/report-heat-concerned-tyler-herro-191203649.html

It looks like there’s rumors that his girlfriend who is an Instagram model is pregnant. But that’s hardly news for an NBA player.

Partying too much?

[MU82]

Maybe Sam and Joey were right about not wanting Herro as a teammate, after all.

[MU82]

50-30-20 and unbeaten, and I might, I emphasize might, give it to him. 40-20-10 and 1 loss, no chance in hell.

 

[JWags85]

What's up with Tyler Herro?

https://sports.yahoo.com/report-heat-concerned-tyler-herro-191203649.html

He’s not set the world on fire this year, but I think it’s oversized expectations based on an unexpected boost to start his career. His shooting numbers (3PT% and EFG) are down a bit, nothing extreme, and his other stats have actually improved.  He just hasn’t taken a leap.

Listen, the Heat very well may have concerns, but they are hyper sensitive, and as noted, had similar concerns during the Big 3 when they were winning titles.  It’s part of what makes them a successful franchise. But by and large this feels like just hunting for a headline and story.

[ATL MU Warrior]

It looks like there’s rumors that his girlfriend who is an Instagram model is pregnant. But that’s hardly news for an NBA player.

Partying too much?

Miami is a dangerous place to live if you have a lot of money and like to party.  Can easily spiral out of control.

[rocket surgeon]

lebron the insurrectionist and his 50 million twitter followers...he needs to apologize and call off his dogs.  he just put the ohio cop and his family in danger, not to mention countless others  this is not the way to unite and heal.  this cop probably saved some black lives

[wadesworld]

lebron the insurrectionist and his 50 million twitter followers...he needs to apologize and call off his dogs.  he just put the ohio cop and his family in danger, not to mention countless others  this is not the way to unite and heal.  this cop probably saved some black lives

After the last 4 years you’re just now becoming worried about putting people on blast on Twitter?

[GB Warrior]

lebron the insurrectionist and his 50 million twitter followers...he needs to apologize and call off his dogs.  he just put the ohio cop and his family in danger, not to mention countless others  this is not the way to unite and heal.  this cop probably saved some black lives

I really need to watch the news more, as I wasn't aware we elected him as president

[Plaque Lives Matter!]

Ah yes, the good old “He should know his place”

[rocket surgeon]

After the last 4 years you’re just now becoming worried about putting people on blast on Twitter?

in other words you approve of what he said?  i thought BLM meant something?  so which "lives" matter to you?  just change the fake name man

[Skatastrophy]

What's up with Tyler Herro?

https://sports.yahoo.com/report-heat-concerned-tyler-herro-191203649.html

Herro balled out tonight. 22 points, 5-6 from 3.

https://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore/_/gameId/401307687

KNunn continunig to look pretty good. The Heat have a talented young roster.

[Mutaman]

Is the top 6?

Jordan
Kareem
Lebron
Wilt
Bird
Magic

As far a 7-10 I think it's inordinately difficult.  Can you really not have Russell?  I have a really tough time not having Shaq there as well.  It's really, really, tough after what I would imagine is most people's 1-6.

Russell has 5 MVPs (playing against Wilt,Oscar and Baylor) and 11 championships in 13 years. Not to mention what he did in college. have to put him near the top of the list and certainly in the top 5 with the other two centers and Jordan and LaBron,  Would also put the Big O over Bird and Magic. Shaq never led the league in rebounding. Russell led the NBA in rebounds four times, had a dozen consecutive seasons of 1,000 or more rebounds,and remains second all-time in both total rebounds and rebounds per game.