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Author Topic: NFC North/NFL Thread 2016-17  (Read 253281 times)

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Re: NFC North/NFL Thread 2016-17
« Reply #575 on: September 21, 2016, 10:50:58 AM »
I can't even remember the last time the offense ran 5 wide or went to a heavy package. The offense these days is basically advanced RPO (run-pass option). They line up in the 11, have a play scheme called, each scheme has a run option built in they can audible to or from, then there is a quick pass option if they stay in the run and finally all the receivers have route combinations they read out of their positions that the QB has to also read and hope they match up.

Problem is they are running the same receiving trees out of the same same positions with the same formations so the defenses can read it too.


Question is, are they getting this predictible because the personnel can't run anything more complicated or is McCarthy trying to be too cute by half?

I think you covered a lot of the problem in your post.

Then, add the fact that Rodgers refuses to set in the pocket and use proper footwork on his throws and it is easy to see why it has been a long time since the QB who regularly put up 100+ ratings over the course of a season can't even do it in a single game anymore.

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Re: NFC North/NFL Thread 2016-17
« Reply #576 on: September 21, 2016, 11:16:43 AM »
Question is, are they getting this predictible because the personnel can't run anything more complicated or is McCarthy trying to be too cute by half?


I think they are trying to run uptempo more often which requires the same package to be on the field.  And uptempo has worked at times.

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Re: NFC North/NFL Thread 2016-17
« Reply #577 on: September 21, 2016, 11:30:07 AM »

I think they are trying to run uptempo more often which requires the same package to be on the field.  And uptempo has worked at times.

What's interesting is that when they go to the 4 min offense they seemingly have more success. I think McCarthy thinks they can run the 4 min offense slower and still have success which it clearly isn't.
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Re: NFC North/NFL Thread 2016-17
« Reply #578 on: September 21, 2016, 12:10:13 PM »

I think they are trying to run uptempo more often which requires the same package to be on the field.  And uptempo has worked at times.

Considering they ranked 23rd in total offense last year and are 29th in offense so far this year, I would venture that it is not working very often.

Their offense is a train wreck right now. They are averaging about 50 yards a game less than juggernauts like Tennessee, Cleveland, Miami and the Eagles (rookie QB).

Plenty of blame to go around, but it starts with the coach and the QB.
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Re: NFC North/NFL Thread 2016-17
« Reply #580 on: September 21, 2016, 09:44:05 PM »
http://www.barstoolsports.com/chicago/svp-summed-up-this-bears-season-perfectly/

And yet I will still stay up until 1:00 AM UK time to watch them Sunday night. Its just not fun, you want to talk about Cutlers lack of effort, how about the rest of the entire team?

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Re: NFC North/NFL Thread 2016-17
« Reply #581 on: September 22, 2016, 05:25:41 AM »
I think you covered a lot of the problem in your post.

Then, add the fact that Rodgers refuses to set in the pocket and use proper footwork on his throws and it is easy to see why it has been a long time since the QB who regularly put up 100+ ratings over the course of a season can't even do it in a single game anymore.

Hard to "set in pocket" when ya got over a thousand lbs of PED enhanced ATP firing on all cylinders trying to de-melon-ize you
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Re: NFC North/NFL Thread 2016-17
« Reply #582 on: September 25, 2016, 11:45:10 AM »
Wonder how the NFL and panthers have prepared for the protesters today.

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Re: NFC North/NFL Thread 2016-17
« Reply #583 on: September 25, 2016, 01:11:10 PM »
Wonder how the NFL and panthers have prepared for the protesters today.

Lots of po-lice pertekshun 'ey?
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Re: NFC North/NFL Thread 2016-17
« Reply #584 on: September 25, 2016, 01:17:31 PM »
Lots of po-lice pertekshun 'ey?

A couple of brief mentions on tv, but that's it.

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Re: NFC North/NFL Thread 2016-17
« Reply #585 on: September 25, 2016, 01:18:19 PM »
Wow, Susie Walsh just  missed a PAT

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Re: NFC North/NFL Thread 2016-17
« Reply #586 on: September 25, 2016, 01:20:11 PM »
Lions defense still at the airport.
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Re: NFC North/NFL Thread 2016-17
« Reply #587 on: September 25, 2016, 01:20:34 PM »
Mac calling a great game. Pack rolling. Jordy looking healthy and Rodgers actually making some throws.
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« Reply #588 on: September 25, 2016, 02:04:43 PM »
The stadium in Charlotte is 25% filled, at best in the second half.  TONS of people left (fled) apparently at halftime.

Must be a NASCAR rerun on a local Charlotte tv station that everyone went home watch.   :(

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Re: NFC North/NFL Thread 2016-17
« Reply #589 on: September 25, 2016, 02:18:12 PM »
The stadium in Charlotte is 25% filled, at best in the second half.  TONS of people left (fled) apparently at halftime.

Must be a NASCAR rerun on a local Charlotte tv station that everyone went home watch.   :(

Looking like the 75% who left includes many Panther players....

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Re: NFC North/NFL Thread 2016-17
« Reply #590 on: September 25, 2016, 02:20:23 PM »
The stadium in Charlotte is 25% filled, at best in the second half.  TONS of people left (fled) apparently at halftime.

Must be a NASCAR rerun on a local Charlotte tv station that everyone went home watch.   :(

Race did start a hour ago

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Re: NFC North/NFL Thread 2016-17
« Reply #591 on: September 25, 2016, 02:30:15 PM »
Vikes D is no joke.

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Re: NFC North/NFL Thread 2016-17
« Reply #592 on: September 25, 2016, 02:31:06 PM »
Wow, Vikes Puttin' the wood to Newton.  Six sacks. Still a close game. 

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Re: NFC North/NFL Thread 2016-17
« Reply #593 on: September 25, 2016, 02:41:06 PM »
That pass to Theilen and his catch was terrific.  D2 grad from Mankato State.

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Re: NFC North/NFL Thread 2016-17
« Reply #594 on: September 25, 2016, 02:45:22 PM »
SKOL Vikings, the CONSENSUS is back!!!
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Re: NFC North/NFL Thread 2016-17
« Reply #595 on: September 25, 2016, 02:47:35 PM »
Not a fan of the Pack second half game plan.

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Re: NFC North/NFL Thread 2016-17
« Reply #596 on: September 25, 2016, 03:05:16 PM »
Total BS.  Announcers subtlety blaming the Panthers loss on shooting.  Can't make this stuff up. 


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Re: NFC North/NFL Thread 2016-17
« Reply #597 on: September 25, 2016, 03:05:51 PM »
Not a fan of the Pack second half game plan.

Me neither, coaching staff seems to have issues with play calling.  Nearly gave this one away.

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Re: NFC North/NFL Thread 2016-17
« Reply #598 on: September 25, 2016, 03:13:49 PM »
Total BS.  Announcers subtlety blaming the Panthers loss on shooting.  Can't make this stuff up.
Was that after the Panther's jumped out to a 10 point lead?

I missed the game but that is one heck of a stat line for the D - SKOL

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Re: NFC North/NFL Thread 2016-17
« Reply #599 on: September 25, 2016, 03:34:59 PM »
Mac's the only thing that can keep the Packers down. Problem is, he often does.
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