Oso planning to go pro
Livingston was injured - not nexessarily over rated.Love is comparable to Bosh 4 years ago - a very good player, but not sure I would call him elite.
I know Sheridan reported it, but I still believe the Wolves are leaking this.This Bulls offer is the same one they offered last year (Gibson, Mirotic, 1st rounder, which is McDermott).I'm not buying into any of it.
I'm not saying it isn't legit, it's just the same offer that's been on the table for months (except McDermott is the first round pick).This is quite easy to report, because its existed for so long.I'd like to see the Bulls keep one of either Mirotic or McDermott personally, and send Kings protected 2015 first rounder, but probably not enough.
I'd like to see what Nikola has, but won't be upset to see him go.Of course if they trade Taj, he's going to average 20/15 on the Wolves. #chicagostupid
Ive never been that impressed with Taj. Never struck me as a player who could be a solid starter night in and night out.
I'm intrigued by Miritoc and McDermott, mostly because the Bulls have lacked pure scorers for so long, and because Noah is an ideal guy for them to play with.Love is clearly a top 10-5 player, and if he's available, you get him.All comes down to Rose and whatever he has left.
Love averaged 26 points, 13 rebounds, and 4.5 assists per game last year on 46% shooting and 37% from beyond the arc last year. Curious to know what he has to do to be considered elite in your mind.
I agree. He has some great, great bursts of output though. He also tugs at the strings of the meatheads.This is what worries me. If Rose has 85%+ of what he had, make the trade for Love. Go for it.If Rose is less than that, I don't trade those assets. I don't know what to do except tickle the flames of basketball hell.
I don't want to argue on this cuz you'd probably win. I guess maybe my point was that big numbers on a non-playoff team don't mean that much to me. When you are the best offensive option (by far) on a bad team and always the #1 option when your team has the ball, you are gonna have big numbers.Bosh averaged 24 pts and 11 Rebs in his last year with the Raptors. Those, too, are elite - or near elite - numbers but I considered him a very good player rather than elite.So, I guess our difference is that you think he is elite and I consider him to be a very good player - maybe not top 10 in the league, but close.If he goes to Cleveland and puts up something like 24 and 12 while playing solid "D" - then I would put him at the elite category. Because he would be doing that on a team with 2 other very good offensive options.
If the Bulls trade for Love is Pau the 6th man or do they both start and Love plays the 3?Obviously these are problems you worry about once Love is a Bull, but it'll be interesting.
+ InfinityIf Rose is close to old Rose, you're all in on Love.If Rose sucks, you almost need those guys to give you more scoring options. Clearly Love is the best player here, but I think for a potential trade to be great, Rose has to be good to great again. We'll see.
Absolutely. The ability to bring Pau off the bench, and manage his minutes, given that he's had a few injuries and is in his mid 30s would be excellent in terms of increasing his effectiveness and efficiency.
I think the Cavs gave up too much. But, they're going to be fun to watch next season.
You think so? Wiggins absolutely has potential and could become a star, but that could take 5 years which is how long Love's deal is. Bennett on the other hand might turn into a role player if he has vast improvement. I'm not ready to write him off. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt, but I don't think he'll be a, say, 16 & 8 type of guy. Also, the first round pick is protected which works in Cleveland's favor. If I'm Cleveland I do this trade 8 days a week.
Gave up too much??? Anthony Bennett was awful last year for a 1st overall pick, Andrew Wiggins has never played a minute in the NBA, and the Cavs 1st round pick is likely to be in the high 20's. Sounds like a great deal for the Cavs.