COVID-19 (f/k/a "the Coronavirus")

[mu03eng]

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/29/health/coronavirus-transmission-dose.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur

Viral load + slowing the spread.

Great article that does a good job of explaining the underlying science of transmission and why masks help.

Really, really wish we could get universal mask adoption when in crowds or indoor spaces....I think the spread would really slowed.

If you are dubious in this thread, please just try it for two weeks, you'll get use to it and you'll be actively contributing to the fight against Covid. Further if you can advocate with others you know, that would be a huge help, we need a grass roots effort because Trump isn't going to rally people to them and the shame campaign is just gonna make it worse.

[MU Fan in Connecticut]

By the way Scott Gottleib said in an interview you shouldn’t trust one test.  However two positives would be somewhat conclusive.  Conversely I guess a negative result is more accurate/trustworthy.

I'm glad he's been over of the people advising our Governor on Coronavirus.

[WarriorDad]

Fauci flip flopping again.  Bill Maher called himself out on his show last night.  Fauci is all over the place of late.  CDC’s reputation needs to be rebuilt along with several other three letter organizations.

[Hards Alumni]

Fauci flip flopping again.  Bill Maher called himself out on his show last night.  Fauci is all over the place of late.  CDC’s reputation needs to be rebuilt along with several other three letter organizations.

When you start sounding like a Democrat, people will believe you are.  When you continue to push this sort of nonsense, people will forever believe that you are who you are.

Jamie from the O.C.

[MU82]

Supreme Court says it's OK for California to prohibit church services ...

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/30/us/supreme-court-churches-coronavirus.html?campaign_id=60&emc=edit_na_20200530&instance_id=0&nl=breaking-news&ref=headline&regi_id=108420427&segment_id=29632&user_id=d36dcf821462fdd16ec3636710a855fa

WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court on Friday turned away a request from a church in California to block enforcement of state restrictions on attendance at religious services.

The vote was 5 to 4, with Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. joining the court’s four-member liberal wing to form a majority.

“Although California’s guidelines place restrictions on places of worship, those restrictions appear consistent with the free exercise clause of the First Amendment,” Chief Justice Roberts wrote in an opinion concurring in the unsigned ruling.

“Similar or more severe restrictions apply to comparable secular gatherings, including lectures, concerts, movie showings, spectator sports and theatrical performances, where large groups of people gather in close proximity for extended periods of time,” the chief justice wrote. “And the order exempts or treats more leniently only dissimilar activities, such as operating grocery stores, banks and laundromats, in which people neither congregate in large groups nor remain in close proximity for extended periods.”

[Pakuni]

Fauci flip flopping again.  Bill Maher called himself out on his show last night.  Fauci is all over the place of late.  CDC’s reputation needs to be rebuilt along with several other three letter organizations.

Weird that you posted this shortly after Fox News posted a story about this.
Politics and strange bedfellows.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Weird that you posted this shortly after Fox News posted a story about this.
Politics and strange bedfellows.

He’s just a lifelong Democrat who gets his news from multiple sources. Because he’s smart and intelligent.

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

A good tool for those looking for death increase by state vs normal.  With view of unexplained increases not attributable to COVID.   

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/investigations/coronavirus-excess-deaths-may/?utm_campaign=wp_main&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook

[MU82]

Friday was the deadliest coronavirus day yet for North Carolina, and the last 4 days have been 4 of the 6 highest days for deaths.

The last 5 days also have been the highest on record for COVID-related hospitalizations in North Carolina.

If anything, the governor here is re-opening things here faster than the president's own guidelines and benchmarks recommended, yet the governor is getting ripped daily by the president for not re-opening fast enough.

[WarriorDad]

Weird that you posted this shortly after Fox News posted a story about this.
Politics and strange bedfellows.

Even more weird that I mentioned Bill Maher who said it last night on his HBO program and I referenced exactly that point.  HBO is available to anyone that wishes to purchase it is still the case?  Watch him every week and I don't think anyone would say he is conservative.  Ha ha   

[GooooMarquette]

Friday was the deadliest coronavirus day yet for North Carolina, and the last 4 days have been 4 of the 6 highest days for deaths.

The last 5 days also have been the highest on record for COVID-related hospitalizations in North Carolina.

If anything, the governor here is re-opening things here faster than the president's own guidelines and benchmarks recommended, yet the governor is getting ripped daily by the president for not re-opening fast enough.

Same here in Minnesota. Our highest number of non-ICU hospitalizations was on Thursday and our highest number in ICU beds (so far) is today...yet we began opening weeks ago, and many are complaining our governor is moving too slowly.

An unfortunate lack of understanding of how viruses spread....

[forgetful]

Not sure if this site for looking at COVID data has been shared before (likely so) but I just found it.

https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-data-explorer?time=2020-02-19..&casesMetric=true&dailyFreq=true&perCapita=true&smoothing=7&country=USA~KOR~DEU~ITA~FRA~ESP~BRA~CAN

Pretty cool to look at trends from different countries.

[Mutaman]

Supreme Court says it's OK for California to prohibit church services ...

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/30/us/supreme-court-churches-coronavirus.html?campaign_id=60&emc=edit_na_20200530&instance_id=0&nl=breaking-news&ref=headline&regi_id=108420427&segment_id=29632&user_id=d36dcf821462fdd16ec3636710a855fa

WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court on Friday turned away a request from a church in California to block enforcement of state restrictions on attendance at religious services.

The vote was 5 to 4, with Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. joining the court’s four-member liberal wing to form a majority.

“Although California’s guidelines place restrictions on places of worship, those restrictions appear consistent with the free exercise clause of the First Amendment,” Chief Justice Roberts wrote in an opinion concurring in the unsigned ruling.

“Similar or more severe restrictions apply to comparable secular gatherings, including lectures, concerts, movie showings, spectator sports and theatrical performances, where large groups of people gather in close proximity for extended periods of time,” the chief justice wrote. “And the order exempts or treats more leniently only dissimilar activities, such as operating grocery stores, banks and laundromats, in which people neither congregate in large groups nor remain in close proximity for extended periods.”

https://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2020/05/one-vote-from-wisconsin

[Warriors4ever]

https://elemental.medium.com/coronavirus-may-be-a-blood-vessel-disease-which-explains-everything-2c4032481ab2

Another theory.

[WarriorDad]

Maher’s own words.  Not sure what their is to fault here, Fauci has been all over the place and flipped back and forth on too many health claims.

 https://twitter.com/billmaher/status/1266573910255874050?s=21

[WarriorDad]

When you start sounding like a Democrat, people will believe you are.  When you continue to push this sort of nonsense, people will forever believe that you are who you are.

Jamie from the O.C.

Michael is my birth name.  What does sounding like a Democrat mean?  Sounding like Democrat Joe Lieberman or AOC?  Which one?  Seems in your world and some of the hard core partisans here there is only one version.

Did you know Illinois had more than 50% of registered voters were Democrats back in 2007.  That number dropped in 2014 and again in 2016.  Not surprising, it is happening to both parties in many states.  People are tired of the partisanship.  You do not determine what it is to be a Democrat.  Part of the problem both parties have now are the crazies are dominating them.  Twitter is full of them and it is ultimately going to end very poorly for this country if we don’t get back to the middle.

[mu03eng]

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/planning-scenarios.html

Current best data for all sorts of metrics related to onset, mean time to hospitalization that's relevant to the, it's been two weeks people are dying in the streets discussion

[MU82]

Wonderful column from Leonard Pitts of the Miami Herald:


Always before, there have been words. Always before, someone crafted them with writerly skill and gave them to the president to give to us. Always, before.

When seven people died aboard the Space Shuttle Challenger, President Ronald Reagan spoke of how, just that morning, they “waved goodbye and ‘slipped the surly bonds of Earth’ to ‘touch the face of God.’”

When 168 people died in the Oklahoma City bombing, President Bill Clinton told survivors, “You have lost too much, but you have not lost everything, and you have certainly not lost America, for we will stand with you for as many tomorrows as it takes.”

When 2,977 people died in the Sept. 11 attacks, President George W. Bush said, “Today our nation saw evil – the very worst of human nature – and we responded with the best of America.”

Yet as we pass a somber milestone – 100,000 Americans dead of the coronavirus pandemic – Donald Trump says nothing. At least, not about the moment. Instead, he tweets.

“OBAMAGATE!!”

And “Sleepy Joe Biden …” and “Psycho Joe Scarborough … ” and “Crazy Nancy Pelosi … ” and “Fake news … ”

Always before, the president would craft language as a vessel for our grief and a sword of our resolve; he would center us, comfort us, remind us to keep faith with tomorrow and aspire to the best version of ourselves.

In a word, he would console us. You just took it for granted. Nine people were massacred in a church in Charleston, S.C., and President Barack Obama went there and spoke of grace, even singing the old hymn about how amazing grace is, because of course he did. Twenty small children and six adults were murdered at an elementary school in Newtown, Conn., and Obama fought back tears and declared, “Our hearts are broken today,” because of course he did.

Because that’s what presidents do.

Or did. And we are only discovering how important that is in its absence.

Because 100,000 people are dead, and it feels almost as if it didn’t really happen, as if it carries no weight. One hundred thousand of our mothers, fathers, sisters and brothers, a college professor, a New York cabbie, a coach, a sharecropper’s son, an LGBTQ activist, a stamp collector, a jazz patriarch – 100,000 of us gone, yet there is no national moment, memorial or mourning. Each family and circle of friends are left to grieve alone.

Pundits and preachers will try to fill the void as best they can. But only a president can do what needs doing here. Only a president has the pulpit from which to address all of us and draw us together upon higher ground. Unfortunately, it is a task to which Trump is ill-suited and in which he has no apparent interest.

So we are left remembering how it was before, when a president might use a moment like this to send a needed message to a hurting nation. The message always was substantially the same, a sermon of hope and resilience that ennobled our pain and left us better for having listened. By contrast, Donald Trump engages in name-calling, whiny self-pity and nonsense conspiracies. People die, he tweets.

And that sends a message, too.

[Jockey]

Wonderful column from Leonard Pitts of the Miami Herald

Yet as we pass a somber milestone – 100,000 Americans dead of the coronavirus pandemic – Donald Trump says nothing. At least, not about the moment. Instead, he tweets.

Always before, the president would craft language as a vessel for our grief and a sword of our resolve; he would center us, comfort us, remind us to keep faith with tomorrow and aspire to the best version of ourselves.

You weren’t listening, Mike. He did speak and I quote, “Fore”.

Every American should listen to the words of senile old Biden. American leaders are still able to speak with empathy and passion. Just not the self-absorbed monster we are stuck with. Even when a reporter lobs a softball question like “ what do you say to families that are suffering?”, he can’t do it and instead attacks the media.

[WarriorDad]

In case you haven’t paid attention, he has never been nor ran on the idea of being what Presidents have done in the past.  That is one reason he got elected if you go back and ask people why they voted for him.  Because they didn’t want the same approach and didn’t want someone that did what presidents have always done.  That has been clear long before the election and why does it keep stunning people years later as if they are surprised?  It should have surprised nobody.  In November people will have an option to decide again.

[WarriorDad]

Take your Vitamin D, get out into the sun, be careful in northern countries like the Nordics, Canada, or even northern states if you have darker skin.  Get outside.

https://youtu.be/tBSfIckPV44

[Uncle Rico]

In case you haven’t paid attention, he has never been nor ran on the idea of being what Presidents have done in the past.  That is one reason he got elected if you go back and ask people why they voted for him.  Because they didn’t want the same approach and didn’t want someone that did what presidents have always done.  That has been clear long before the election and why does it keep stunning people years later as if they are surprised?  It should have surprised nobody.  In November people will have an option to decide again.

Yes, there are a lot of morons in America

[GooooMarquette]

Wonderful column from Leonard Pitts of the Miami Herald

Great column.

Yes, the electoral college chose in 2016 to move away from empathy and compassion...and we are now seeing what that can mean.

Hopefully, we as a nation can find empathy and compassion elsewhere, and perhaps we have also learned that it also helps to get some from our leader.

[Hards Alumni]

Michael is my birth name.  What does sounding like a Democrat mean?  Sounding like Democrat Joe Lieberman or AOC?  Which one?  Seems in your world and some of the hard core partisans here there is only one version.

Did you know Illinois had more than 50% of registered voters were Democrats back in 2007.  That number dropped in 2014 and again in 2016.  Not surprising, it is happening to both parties in many states.  People are tired of the partisanship.  You do not determine what it is to be a Democrat.  Part of the problem both parties have now are the crazies are dominating them.  Twitter is full of them and it is ultimately going to end very poorly for this country if we don’t get back to the middle.

Thanks for the education, Jamie.

You're so smart.

For the record, I'm not a Democrat, and neither are you, nor have you ever been.

[MU82]

Great column.

Yes, the electoral college chose in 2016 to move away from empathy and compassion...and we are now seeing what that can mean.

Hopefully, we as a nation can find empathy and compassion elsewhere, and perhaps we have also learned that it also helps to get some from our leader.

Well, at least we know President Pandemic has no chance of getting the vote of lifelong Democrat WD/Cheeks/chicos/Jams/hoopaloop!