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He was a point guard ball who dominated the ball. He was surrounded by one elite and one outstanding 3 pt shooter. The 125th assist rate in the nation under those circumstances is (IMO) disappointing.
I love having Markus on the team, and I look forward to telling my grandkids someday that I got to watch one of the greatest scorers of his era. I am disappointed in supposed Marquette fans who bash not only his considerable basketball skills but also his character. The latter is especially disturbing.However ...Markus simply is not very good at getting teammates involved in the offense. That's OK. It apparently is what Wojo wanted from him last season; if not, Wojo would have corrected it, or at least tried to (and not doing so is a valid criticism of Wojo, IMHO). Pretending that Markus was good at getting teammates involved last season because he ranked 125th in assists for a team with elite shooters ... that seems a little over the top to me. It's OK to point that out while also saying that, otherwise, Markus has been an amazing Warrior.I am hoping that the additions of Koby and Symir and the return of GE will make it less necessary for Markus to have the ball 90% of the time this season, and will make him a more efficient, healthier and even more dangerous player this season.
I posted this a few weeks back.Top 5 candidates listed for the 2020 Cousy AwardCassius Winston: 44.8 assist rate/17.5 Turnover rateMarkus Howard: 27.2 assist rate/18.4 turnover rateTre Jones: 24 assist rate/14.7 turnover rateAshton Hagans: 27 assist rate/28.4 turnover rateAnthony Cowan: 26.1 assist rate/18.6 turnover rateAll those guys played with players as talented, probably more talented than Joey and Sam. Tre Jones is a likely first round pick in the 2020 draft. That’s good company Markus is in for a point guard and his assist rate is quite similar to the best returning point guards save the unicorn, Cassius Winston
Markus was fine as a shooting guard playing point guard
Markus is here. Joey is not. In conclusion, go Markus.You’d think that’d be a pretty easy conclusion to come to for people on an MU basketball board. Instead we have people claiming Markus, the guy Andy Katz just ranked his number 2 overall college basketball player going into the 2019-2020 college basketball season, is a cancer.
Well, some people want Wojo - and, by extension, MU - to fail. So they have to rationalize everything through that mindset.
they don't WANT them to fail. they just don't feel MU has the best chance to improve as we stand at the moment. i'm a "half-full" guy. i like our chances better going forward, but we still have to play the games. in some circles, people can have dissenting opinions, and that's o.k.
BS. Some people want Wojo out. And they figure the only way is for him to lose and get fired. So, they hope for that. Of course, that means MU failing. Those people would be happy with MU failing if it meant getting rid of Wojo.
You did miss the posts because no one would overtly say as much.Much of the anti-wojo scoopers have to be careful what they say so as to not fall into this trap. Many have therefore been very passive aggressive regarding their hope that wojo will fail (unsaid but implied MU will fail as well). There are only a few posters who outright will tell you wojo is the wrong coach and they want him out (and they know this means MU has to fail for this to happen). Why we tip toe around this subject and pretend no one is inferring this in their posts (that they are rooting for MU to fail in recruiting and on the floor this year) is somewhat pathetic. Read between the passive aggressive lines. People can clammer about how great of fans they have been their whole lives but if they want wojo out they are routing for MU to lose. Can’t have one without the other.And its really ok to admit it. Especially if you think it’s the best way for the program to be successful again. Just get some balls and say it.
Zion was "a hell of a player." KD, as a freshman, was "a hell of a player." Anthony Davis was "a hell of a player."
Joey, as a freshman, had some very good moments ... but, looking at his overall body of work, he was decent. There's no shame in being a decent 10-and-5 guy as a freshman on a good team. Let's not make him out to be something he wasn't.
so shooter, would you say that wojo has been successful so far? i like wojo and i'd have to say so far he really hasn't. if you think he has been successful, then you are part of the problem of those accepting mediocrity when we should be expecting better. i think he could be the right person for MU, but he has to bring it up a COUPLE of notches before we can talk about SUCCESS. that being said, those who don't like wojo are really not MU haters and do not want us to fail. they just don't think he has represented MU the way we need our coach to do so. losing 2 players didn't sit well with them. i get that. if wojo does do well next season with this group of players, which i thjnk he will, they will be cheering as much as anyone else. if wojo fails, they will be leading the charge to get rid of him. i don't think they want to suffer through another year of their lives with suck
RocketI think everyone is forgetting just how much success Wojo had produced right up until the wheels fell off. I was shocked that we basically blew four chances to secure the outright BigEast title. In hindsight, not only was the team not firing on all cylinders with Markus wearing down due to our thin backcourt....there was a downright insurrection which more and more is looking to have been caused by a Freshman. The fact that our team got so hosed by the BET refs in the Seton Hall game and yet didn’t respond, at all, in their next game, matchups aside, told me something was wrong. After all, the chip of all chips should have been on their shoulders. None of us knew exactly what it was until weeks later. To be so on the cusp of a championship season and have it fall prey to immaturity and petty divisions....that was tough to take. However, all the signs are pointing to a frenetically charged, united team with both skill and athleticism. Sit back and watch them outperform your expectations. Had nothing changed and attitudes not been righted, this upcoming year would’ve been a massive underachievement anyway. Everything is as it’s supposed to be....the guys who are here truly love MU and want to be here....and the right guy is at the helm of it all.
i don't believe there was much he could have done except ride the storm out, cut out the cancer and rally what he had left around perhaps one of the best guards in the country. yes, there was some serious dead tissue left after the cancer was removed, but it seems as though that has been healing. the core group of guys seem to have rallied around wojo. he has got them onboard and focused on the team goals. this is huge because now we have a healthy attitude breading healthy attitudes to the new guys coming in as opposed to a couple of "dividers' poisoning some of the others. the "other guys" were poison and made up their minds way before the end of the season. we won despite them. unfortunately, they were causing a malaise in the locker room. in retrospect, what if wojo would have benche (and rightly so) the freshman cancer right when it first started. that would have taken a set of stones man. but it also would have blown up the team right then and there. markus would surely be gone as we speak and the talk of any chance of having a decent year, this year would be laughable. ya think this would have been smart? so what other recourse did wojo have? he wasn't going to change any minds. i hope some are seeing where the real problem was here, let's say MU doesn't even get joey-the never wojo guys would be pooping themselves- but would have been the best thing to have never happened to us.