Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on November 02, 2024, 02:22:30 PMJust not sure how they can justify keeping Franklin yet again.

Guy is literally incapable of winning any semblance of a big game.

They aren't firing James Franklin. Cmon...

Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on November 02, 2024, 02:22:30 PMJust not sure how they can justify keeping Franklin yet again.

Guy is literally incapable of winning any semblance of a big game.

Justify keeping him? He's 95-39 at PSU and will almost certainly be coaching in the CFP this year.

Quote from: wadesworld on November 02, 2024, 02:34:13 PMJustify keeping him? He's 95-39 at PSU and will almost certainly be coaching in the CFP this year.

Yeah in the 12 team playoff. Where he isnt required to beat any team with a pulse

He cant win any game of note. Look at his record vs ranked teams even at home.

Hes can get you 10 wins and a bowl game(then a 50/50 shot to win that) but he cant get you any type of championship. Bring him to Minnesota or Illinois. Penn State? No.

Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on November 02, 2024, 02:44:08 PMYeah in the 12 team playoff. Where he isnt required to beat any team with a pulse

He cant win any game of note. Look at his record vs ranked teams even at home.

Hes can get you 10 wins and a bowl game(then a 50/50 shot to win that) but he cant get you any type of championship. Bring him to Minnesota or Illinois. Penn State? No.

Penn State? The last time they won a national championship was 40 years ago. He's done a good job with the program. He's finished in the top 10 half of the last eight seasons.

They aren't firing him. That's silly talk.

Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on November 02, 2024, 02:44:08 PMYeah in the 12 team playoff. Where he isnt required to beat any team with a pulse

He cant win any game of note. Look at his record vs ranked teams even at home.

Hes can get you 10 wins and a bowl game(then a 50/50 shot to win that) but he cant get you any type of championship. Bring him to Minnesota or Illinois. Penn State? No.

PSU had three 10+ win seasons from 2000 until when Franklin took over in 2014. This is his 10th season and he'll have 6 of those. He has won a B1G title. And he's going to have them in the CFP this year. There's maybe 3 programs in all of college football that might fire a coach after a CFP appearance (without scandal being involved).

PSU is not the program you think they are.

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on November 02, 2024, 02:49:43 PMPenn State? The last time they won a national championship was 40 years ago. He's done a good job with the program. He's finished in the top 10 half of the last eight seasons.

They aren't firing him. That's silly talk.

May not fire him but doesn't mean he'll be coaching in Happy Valley next fall

Quote from: Uncle Rico on November 02, 2024, 03:15:09 PMMay not fire him but doesn't mean he'll be coaching in Happy Valley next fall

Correct.

Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on November 02, 2024, 02:22:30 PMJust not sure how they can justify keeping Franklin yet again.

Guy is literally incapable of winning any semblance of a big game.

You are extremely tough on coaches, managers, etc.

Quote from: wadesworld on November 02, 2024, 02:50:55 PMPSU had three 10+ win seasons from 2000 until when Franklin took over in 2014. This is his 10th season and he'll have 6 of those. He has won a B1G title. And he's going to have them in the CFP this year. There's maybe 3 programs in all of college football that might fire a coach after a CFP appearance (without scandal being involved).

PSU is not the program you think they are.

https://x.com/CFBRep/status/1852793536984629468

The wildest thing about the push back on this is that I am not even giving some hot take or doing some sort of deep thinking.

Anyone who watches college football whether they cheer for Penn State or dont thinks the guy is awful.

Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on November 02, 2024, 03:24:09 PMhttps://x.com/CFBRep/status/1852793536984629468

The wildest thing about the push back on this is that I am not even giving some hot take or doing some sort of deep thinking.

Anyone who watches college football whether they cheer for Penn State or dont thinks the guy is awful.

He's not awful. That's nonsense.

Quote from: Lennys Tap on November 02, 2024, 03:20:00 PMYou are extremely tough on coaches, managers, etc.

By saying that coaches shouldnt lose???

Grady little was fired for losing a game 7 of the ALCS

But James Frankin losing over and over and over and over against teams with a pulse is where the line for being "tough" on coaches is drawn?

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on November 02, 2024, 03:25:04 PMHe's not awful. That's nonsense.

He is awful when it matters, every single time.

Hes great against Purdue and Northwestern.

Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on November 02, 2024, 03:26:43 PMHe is awful when it matters, every single time.

Hes great against Purdue and Northwestern.

It's fine if you don't think he's a good coach. Though you seem to think a lot of people are poor coaches so there's a bit of a "boy who cried wolf" thing going on.

But he's not "awful" and he's not getting fired. Because PSU is run by competent adults and not message board dorks.

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on November 02, 2024, 03:30:13 PMIt's fine if you don't think he's a good coach. Though you seem to think a lot of people are poor coaches so there's a bit of a "boy who cried wolf" thing going on.

But he's not "awful" and he's not getting fired. Because PSU is run by competent adults and not message board dorks.

Im not sure why you keep telling me hes not going to get fired

If its outward stupidity or what I truly dont know. But I flat out said hes not going to get fired. I said he should be.

The numbers dont lie.

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on November 02, 2024, 03:30:13 PMIt's fine if you don't think he's a good coach. Though you seem to think a lot of people are poor coaches so there's a bit of a "boy who cried wolf" thing going on.

But he's not "awful" and he's not getting fired. Because PSU is run by competent adults and not message board dorks.

1. Think you need to learn what that phrase means. It would not apply to an opinion.

2. I think the number of coaches I have definitively said are bad is extremely small(Baldelli, Rocco). There is a an extreme differnce between a coaches decision being moronic and outwardly stating that said coach overall sucks.

3. We are acting like its Nick Saban or Erik Spolstra or Bill Self Im critiquing here

Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on November 02, 2024, 03:32:52 PMIm not sure why you keep telling me hes not going to get fired

If its outward stupidity or what I truly dont know. But I flat out said hes not going to get fired. I said he should be.

The numbers dont lie.

Went through all your posts today and you never said the bolded.

I'll accept your apology.

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on November 02, 2024, 03:39:08 PMWent through all your posts today and you never said the bolded.

I'll accept your apology.

So I said hes going to get fired?

Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on November 02, 2024, 03:38:13 PM1. Think you need to learn what that phrase means. It would not apply to an opinion.

2. I think the number of coaches I have definitively said are bad is extremely small(Baldelli, Rocco). There is a an extreme differnce between a coaches decision being moronic and outwardly stating that said coach overall sucks.

3. We are acting like its Nick Saban or Erik Spolstra or Bill Self Im critiquing here

A the ole shifting goalposts. Nice, nice... 

Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on November 02, 2024, 03:40:12 PMSo I said hes going to get fired?

No. But you never "flat out said hes (sic) not going to get fired."

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on November 02, 2024, 03:40:27 PMA the ole shifting goalposts. Nice, nice... 

What goal post was shifted?

You improperly using a phrase?

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on November 02, 2024, 03:42:11 PMNo. But you never "flat out said hes (sic) not going to get fired."

So why do you keep telling me hes not going to get fired? I never once said he was.

Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on November 02, 2024, 03:45:20 PMSo why do you keep telling me hes not going to get fired? I never once said he was.

So you claimed to flat out say something, that you didn't actually say, and by pointing that out, it's "stupidity" on my part?  😂😂😂

Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on November 02, 2024, 03:44:37 PMWhat goal post was shifted?

You improperly using a phrase?

Didn't improperly use anything. I never claimed he was a coach the level of Nick Saban.

You want to keep going? Or are you going to argue with more for...actually quoting what you said.

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on November 02, 2024, 03:51:31 PMSo you claimed to flat out say something, that you didn't actually say, and by pointing that out, it's "stupidity" on my part?  😂😂😂


Didn't improperly use anything. I never claimed he was a coach the level of Nick Saban.

You want to keep going? Or are you going to argue with more for...actually quoting what you said.

Who said he was on the level of Nick Saban?? You know, since we are quoting what was said and all. Still waiting on who said he Franklin would be fired as well.

You did improperly use the phrase. Again, look up what the boy who cried wolf meaning is.Its mind blowing you can be this stupid

Anyway you cut it, the result hurts the Big East

What a catch that will not count do to the flag.

Oregon is stacked at receiver