Author Topic: Thought of the day (Read 9340 times)

Goose · « **on:** March 27, 2014, 08:56:15 PM »

Everyone has an opinion and a guy they want as coach and I appreciate that. That said, in what appears to be a cluster fxxk please tell me who anyone wanted that has signed elsewhere.

We have best job open and no one is going anywhere until MU makes a decision. We can chase Shaka or whomever and until we lose someone else why all the anger?

Frenns Liquor Depot · « **Reply #1 on:** March 27, 2014, 08:57:53 PM »

Or at least until Izzo goes to the NBA.

melissasmooth · « **Reply #2 on:** March 27, 2014, 08:58:29 PM »

im just chilling on this next target, a lot less F5

ChicosBailBonds · « **Reply #3 on:** March 27, 2014, 09:01:16 PM »

4everwarriors · « **Reply #4 on:** March 27, 2014, 09:02:43 PM »

Quote from: melissasmooth on March 27, 2014, 08:58:29 PM

im just chilling on this next target, a lot less F5

And more Jack Daniels, hey?

PuertoRicanNightmare · « **Reply #5 on:** March 27, 2014, 09:04:13 PM »

Goose · « **Reply #6 on:** March 27, 2014, 09:05:14 PM »

Chico's

Not great stamina, just common sense. Seriously, who on our list has signed elsewhere. We are in drivers seat. When I was young I was taught great lesson, when in drivers seat...drive.

Think MU is driving the bus and good will happen.

JakeBarnes · « **Reply #7 on:** March 27, 2014, 09:05:33 PM »

JakeBarnes · « **Reply #8 on:** March 27, 2014, 09:06:54 PM »

Quote from: Goose on March 27, 2014, 09:05:14 PM

Chico's

Not great stamina, just common sense. Seriously, who on our list has signed elsewhere. We are in drivers seat. When I was young I was taught great lesson, when in drivers seat...drive.

Think MU is driving the bus and good will happen.

I do too. Thanks for the rationality here Goose. The board has needed at least a pinch of it!

Milwarriorkee · « **Reply #9 on:** March 27, 2014, 09:07:15 PM »

What does it mean when a thread is moved behind the bar?

brandx · « **Reply #10 on:** March 27, 2014, 09:07:48 PM »

Quote from: Goose on March 27, 2014, 08:56:15 PM

Everyone has an opinion and a guy they want as coach and I appreciate that. That said, in what appears to be a cluster fxxk please tell me who anyone wanted that has signed elsewhere.

We have best job open and no one is going anywhere until MU makes a decision. We can chase Shaka or whomever and until we lose someone else why all the anger?

Thank you Goose. My thought as well. Appreciate you and Freeport Warrior, Richard Shaw, etc.

One quick question. Since the Cuonzo Martin rumors kind of came out of nowhere, do you think that has to do with the fact that he has recruited Diamond Stone and has a relationship with him?

The Process · « **Reply #11 on:** March 27, 2014, 09:08:18 PM »

Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 27, 2014, 09:02:43 PM

And more Jack Daniels, hey?

Got some of that stuff to share, 4ever?

NickelDimer · « **Reply #12 on:** March 27, 2014, 09:08:22 PM »

Quote from: csmithjump on March 27, 2014, 09:07:15 PM

What does it mean when a thread is moved behind the bar?

The link to that thread is dead. Mods?

ChicosBailBonds · « **Reply #13 on:** March 27, 2014, 09:08:44 PM »

Quote from: Goose on March 27, 2014, 09:05:14 PM

Chico's

Not great stamina, just common sense. Seriously, who on our list has signed elsewhere. We are in drivers seat. When I was young I was taught great lesson, when in drivers seat...drive.

Think MU is driving the bus and good will happen.

I don't know who is on our list.

I guess I find it odd that Bullseye is going so wild right now if he thought it was still going to happen. The other part of the equation is that it doesn't really matter if someone on our list hasn't signed with anyone else. Most guys aren't going to leave at all....they're going to stay put. If they stay put, that's no different if they chose BC, Wake Forest or somewhere else....still not here.

I agree we are the best job open, just not sure that equates to landing anyone no our "list"...or the A part of the list. Guess we find out, should be fun.

hepennypacker5000 · « **Reply #14 on:** March 27, 2014, 09:09:09 PM »

Quote from: csmithjump on March 27, 2014, 09:07:15 PM

What does it mean when a thread is moved behind the bar?

Not fit for human consumption.

nyg · « **Reply #15 on:** March 27, 2014, 09:09:16 PM »

Quote from: csmithjump on March 27, 2014, 09:07:15 PM

What does it mean when a thread is moved behind the bar?

It is dead and locked. That was due to the political and racism comments made. Along with insults.

Jet915 · « **Reply #16 on:** March 27, 2014, 09:09:34 PM »

Very true, just worried Howland will sign with someone else like Wake Forest.

Frenns Liquor Depot · « **Reply #17 on:** March 27, 2014, 09:10:10 PM »

Quote from: nyg on March 27, 2014, 09:09:16 PM

It is dead and locked. That was due to the political and racism comments made. Along with insults.

too bad a third of that thread was insightful

dinger · « **Reply #18 on:** March 27, 2014, 09:10:19 PM »

Since the other thread got killed, this was my reaction to Goose saying Shaka is still in play...

4everwarriors · « **Reply #19 on:** March 27, 2014, 09:11:30 PM »

Quote from: csmithjump on March 27, 2014, 09:07:15 PM

What does it mean when a thread is moved behind the bar?

Keep lookin' for the "Behind the bar tab" on your keyboard.

JakeBarnes · « **Reply #20 on:** March 27, 2014, 09:11:46 PM »

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 27, 2014, 09:08:44 PM

I don't know who is on our list.

I guess I find it odd that Bullseye is going so wild right now if he thought it was still going to happen. The other part of the equation is that it doesn't really matter if someone on our list hasn't signed with anyone else. Most guys aren't going to leave at all....they're going to stay put. If they stay put, that's no different if they chose BC, Wake Forest or somewhere else....still not here.

Bullseye going wild is weird. His facts don't mesh properly with the facts I have heard from different sources, so it feels like he is both a little out of the loop AND a little bit loopy at the moment. Kinda weird. I'm just gonna keep the faith and sit tight. And give the gift of gifs

Freeport Warrior · « **Reply #21 on:** March 27, 2014, 09:13:26 PM »

Quote from: dinger on March 27, 2014, 09:10:19 PM

Since the other thread got killed, this was my reaction to Goose saying Shaka is still in play...

I don't know why, but I still want to believe he is still in play as well. Maybe just delusional from staring at the screen for so many days.

mr.MUskie · « **Reply #22 on:** March 27, 2014, 09:13:34 PM »

So, with his record, would Shaka be such a hot commodity if his name was Bob Jones? Does the cool name play into the mystique?

JakeBarnes · « **Reply #23 on:** March 27, 2014, 09:15:23 PM »

Quote from: My source on March 27, 2014, 09:13:34 PM

So, with his record, would Shaka be such a hot commodity if his name was Bob Jones? Does the cool name play into the mystique?

Milwarriorkee · « **Reply #24 on:** March 27, 2014, 09:15:33 PM »

Quote from: dinger on March 27, 2014, 09:10:19 PM

Since the other thread got killed, this was my reaction to Goose saying Shaka is still in play...

Yes I would love to hear more on that. IWB even stated on his podcast that it was dead. But as Ellis Redding once said, "hope is a dangerous thing."

Benny B · « **Reply #25 on:** March 27, 2014, 09:16:32 PM »

It isn't dead til Shaka says it's dead.

And never trust a mouse.

Goose · « **Reply #26 on:** March 27, 2014, 09:17:56 PM »

Chico's

You if anyone knows your stuff. We need one guy to say yes and everyone else can stand pat. Our job is best in country this year and guys are lining up. If we dance with Shaka for a week and nothing happens it might be time well spent.

ChicosBailBonds · « **Reply #27 on:** March 27, 2014, 09:18:33 PM »

So the guy saying DONE DEAL says it is dead? Well, it would seem to me Miller, IWB, Bullseye are connected....that's not a bad thing, they should be based on their jobs, etc. If Bullseye says it then it only makes sense IWB and likely Miller say the same thing. Mark started pushing others, however, a few days ago like NIU's coach. But early on he was all in as well. Probably all getting the same information from the same source or sharing amongst themselves?

Goose · « **Reply #28 on:** March 27, 2014, 09:20:14 PM »

For the record...I want Marshall. I am not banging on Shaka drum because he is my only guy. I think he would be great hire and hope we get who school wants.

ChicosBailBonds · « **Reply #29 on:** March 27, 2014, 09:20:52 PM »

Quote from: Goose on March 27, 2014, 09:17:56 PM

Chico's

You if anyone knows your stuff. We need one guy to say yes and everyone else can stand pat. Our job is best in country this year and guys are lining up. If we dance with Shaka for a week and nothing happens it might be time well spent.

Hope so. In 2008 I was on vacation when the announcement came. I'm going on vacation tomorrow for the next 8 days skiing. Can't imagine we have a vacancy when I return.

onepost · « **Reply #30 on:** March 27, 2014, 09:22:18 PM »

OK, then here's another question I have: how sure are we that Howland will not make a move to Wake (BC ain't happening) if we keep stalling with this Shaka fiasco? The difference between him and the next candidate (sans Marshall) is pretty great in my opinion. I probably prefer Howland to Shaka anyway, especially after hearing all of the demands he's asking for and not coming through on.

onepost · « **Reply #31 on:** March 27, 2014, 09:24:07 PM »

In other words, are we thinking that he's given us the OK to check out Shaka/whoever and that he won't do anything until we've made a move?

ChicosBailBonds · « **Reply #32 on:** March 27, 2014, 09:24:28 PM »

Quote from: Goose on March 27, 2014, 09:20:14 PM

For the record...I want Marshall. I am not banging on Shaka drum because he is my only guy. I think he would be great hire and hope we get who school wants.

I'm down with that.

thekahoona · « **Reply #33 on:** March 27, 2014, 09:26:10 PM »

Here's my view. We just lost a coach that didn't really want to be here. Why spend so much time trying to woo a guy who seems like he doesn't want to be here?

mechaghidorah · « **Reply #34 on:** March 27, 2014, 09:29:10 PM »

Quote from: My source on March 27, 2014, 09:13:34 PM

So, with his record, would Shaka be such a hot commodity if his name was Bob Jones? Does the cool name play into the mystique?

There's definitely something about the guy that makes him the "cool" candidate. IMO, his being Black helps in that respect. He campaigned for Obama and is an outspoken liberal politically, which endears him to the vast majority of sportswriters and the media in general, as well as college kids. This all makes him seem a bit larger than life and, in all reality, better than he's actually been as a coach. He's the "it" guy, no doubt about it. If he had come to MU, I have no doubt Hill affirms his commitment immediately.

Was in the bank a few days ago, and guys in line were actually talking about Shaka Smart possibly coming to MU and how great it would be. You never hear people talking about MU. The topic had captured the public's imagination.

brandx · « **Reply #35 on:** March 27, 2014, 09:32:00 PM »

Quote from: mechaghidorah on March 27, 2014, 09:29:10 PM

There's definitely something about the guy that makes him the "cool" candidate. IMO, his being Black helps in that respect. He campaigned for Obama and is an outspoken liberal politically, which endears him to the vast majority of sportswriters and the media in general, as well as college kids. This all makes him seem a bit larger than life and, in all reality, better than he's actually been as a coach. He's the "it" guy, no doubt about it. If he had come to MU, I have no doubt Hill affirms his commitment immediately.

Was in the bank a few days ago, and guys in line were actually talking about Shaka Smart possibly coming to MU and how great it would be. You never hear people talking about MU. The topic had captured the public's imagination.

Wasn't once enough for you douchebag? GO AWAY!!!!!

Henry Sugar · « **Reply #36 on:** March 27, 2014, 09:33:33 PM »

Seems like the right spot to repost these thoughts, which I originally posted on the CS twitter feed two days ago.

Although I got caught up in Shakawatch like everyone else, I was never convinced he was the absolute best candidate.

It was pretty clear he was prioritizing TO% as his top focus. Except that it should be eFG%

VCU's eFG% hasn't been great. Twice in the 200s offensively; worse than 100 defensively 3x. Granted, I would have had a lot of fun complaining about eFG% for the next six years, but it definitely concerned me.

He wasn't a slam dunk or significantly better than any other candidate.

Wisco · « **Reply #37 on:** March 27, 2014, 09:33:41 PM »

Quote from: mechaghidorah on March 27, 2014, 09:29:10 PM

There's definitely something about the guy that makes him the "cool" candidate. IMO, his being Black helps in that respect. He campaigned for Obama and is an outspoken liberal politically, which endears him to the vast majority of sportswriters and the media in general, as well as college kids. This all makes him seem a bit larger than life and, in all reality, better than he's actually been as a coach. He's the "it" guy, no doubt about it. If he had come to MU, I have no doubt Hill affirms his commitment immediately.

Was in the bank a few days ago, and guys in line were actually talking about Shaka Smart possibly coming to MU and how great it would be. You never hear people talking about MU. The topic had captured the public's imagination.

You're awful. Just awful. Posters on the VCU board are howling at your expense right now. I feel sorry for your offspring.

Milwarriorkee · « **Reply #38 on:** March 27, 2014, 09:35:31 PM »

I just thought I would share a quote that I heard tonight from someone close to the program. "Lack of AD is [messing] things up. Anything you hear is bullsh!t."

brandx · « **Reply #39 on:** March 27, 2014, 09:35:48 PM »

Quote from: Henry Sugar on March 27, 2014, 09:33:33 PM

Seems like the right spot to repost these thoughts

Although I got caught up in Shakawatch like everyone else, I was never convinced he was the absolute best candidate.

It was pretty clear he was prioritizing TO% as his top focus. Except that it should be eFG%

VCU's eFG% hasn't been great. Twice in the 200s offensively; worse than 100 defensively 3x. Granted, I would have had a lot of fun complaining about eFG% for the next six years, but it definitely concerned me.

He wasn't a slam dunk or significantly better than any other candidate.

Do you have the same info for A.Miller, Marshall, or Martin. I would expect all may be better.

brandx · « **Reply #40 on:** March 27, 2014, 09:37:09 PM »

Quote from: csmithjump on March 27, 2014, 09:35:31 PM

I just thought I would share a quote that I heard tonight from someone close to the program. "Lack of AD is [messing] things up. Anything you hear is bullsh!t."

I think that was obvious when cords said he was staying for another year.

4everwarriors · « **Reply #41 on:** March 27, 2014, 09:38:32 PM »

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 27, 2014, 09:20:52 PM

Hope so. In 2008 I was on vacation when the announcement came. I'm going on vacation tomorrow for the next 8 days skiing. Can't imagine we have a vacancy when I return.

Is it hard to refresh the page while goin' downhill?

Wisco · « **Reply #42 on:** March 27, 2014, 09:38:49 PM »

Quote from: Henry Sugar on March 27, 2014, 09:33:33 PM

Seems like the right spot to repost these thoughts

Although I got caught up in Shakawatch like everyone else, I was never convinced he was the absolute best candidate.

It was pretty clear he was prioritizing TO% as his top focus. Except that it should be eFG%

VCU's eFG% hasn't been great. Twice in the 200s offensively; worse than 100 defensively 3x. Granted, I would have had a lot of fun complaining about eFG% for the next six years, but it definitely concerned me.

He wasn't a slam dunk or significantly better than any other candidate.

Henry, have always appreciated your posts.

Allow me to share my thoughts on the issue. I do think Shaka is still finding the proper balance with his system. I believe his ideal version is closer to something that Florida runs. He's just needed the right athletes. I consider it a minor miracle that his numbers have been what they are with the recruits he's had to work with. Mostly 1 and 2 star guys that were brought in for CAA play. He's finally bringing in the big guns beginning with next year: ~6'8" guys that have guard-like skills and can press effectively.

I've been told that he talks to Pomeroy on a regular basis and I have no reason to doubt that fact. So, if that is in fact true, I'm sure he's well aware of the eFG% issue. His offense is evolving so I'm willing to give him a few years with the newer recruits to see if he can balance the two ratings.

Henry Sugar · « **Reply #43 on:** March 27, 2014, 09:39:21 PM »

Quote from: brandx on March 27, 2014, 09:35:48 PM

Do you have the same info for A.Miller, Marshall, or Martin. I would expect all may be better.

I did the Marshall information here (sorta)

http://www.crackedsidewalks.com/2014/03/some-coaching-candidates-by-numbers.html

Henry Sugar · « **Reply #44 on:** March 27, 2014, 09:43:24 PM »

Quote from: Warrior Ram on March 27, 2014, 09:38:49 PM

Henry, have always appreciated your posts.

Allow me to share my thoughts on the issue.

At this point, I don't really care if Shaka fixes his eFG% issue or not.

My point was that he wasn't a slam dunk.

Goose · « **Reply #45 on:** March 27, 2014, 09:44:07 PM »

You never know what tomorrow brings. March 28 is big day in school history if memory serves me.

ChicosBailBonds · « **Reply #46 on:** March 27, 2014, 09:44:45 PM »

Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 27, 2014, 09:38:32 PM

Is it hard to refresh the page while goin' downhill?

Exactly

Buchec18 · « **Reply #47 on:** March 27, 2014, 09:46:04 PM »

This is how I've felt these last few days with people posting nonsense.

warriorstrack · « **Reply #48 on:** March 27, 2014, 09:46:30 PM »

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 27, 2014, 09:20:52 PM

Hope so. In 2008 I was on vacation when the announcement came. I'm going on vacation tomorrow for the next 8 days skiing. Can't imagine we have a vacancy when I return.

Sunriver Oregon I hope

jakeec · « **Reply #49 on:** March 27, 2014, 09:49:18 PM »

This has been interesting to watch. You guys still think he's in play?

TX_AZ_Warrior · « **Reply #50 on:** March 27, 2014, 10:04:24 PM »

tried to do gif. Failed..... some other time.

dinger · « **Reply #51 on:** March 27, 2014, 10:14:53 PM »

Quote from: jakeec on March 27, 2014, 09:49:18 PM

This has been interesting to watch. You guys still think he's in play?

TX_AZ_Warrior · « **Reply #52 on:** March 27, 2014, 10:19:49 PM »

I think this might be the echo chamber we had the last few days.

TX_AZ_Warrior · « **Reply #53 on:** March 27, 2014, 10:21:59 PM »

Hoping the search doesn't end like this......

Blackhat · « **Reply #54 on:** March 27, 2014, 10:23:15 PM »

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TX_AZ_Warrior · « **Reply #55 on:** March 27, 2014, 10:23:59 PM »

Thanks Stone Cold.

GooooMarquette · « **Reply #56 on:** March 27, 2014, 10:26:42 PM »

Quote from: Goose on March 27, 2014, 09:44:07 PM

You never know what tomorrow brings. March 28 is big day in school history if memory serves me.

67-59. Good times!

Scooter22 · « **Reply #57 on:** March 28, 2014, 02:18:03 AM »

Quote from: brandx on March 27, 2014, 09:37:09 PM

I think that was obvious when cords said he was staying for another year.

Particularly when this little gem of news commands its own press conference...
why else would MU call a press conference about nothing? They are sending a message that the new coach will get to be involved in the AD hire, which is not a bad thing, necessarily, as they both need to get along....

Still, the situation is not ideal. This is like hiring a head football coach without a GM in place, Packers have been there, done that...

Scooter22 · « **Reply #58 on:** March 28, 2014, 02:20:24 AM »

Quote from: TX_AZ_Warrior on March 27, 2014, 10:21:59 PM

Hoping the search doesn't end like this......

I hope there was some netting down below...

keefe · « **Reply #59 on:** March 28, 2014, 03:24:07 AM »

Quote from: warriorstrack on March 27, 2014, 09:46:30 PM

Sunriver Oregon I hope

Mt Hood and Mt Bachelor is good skiing. I prefer Hood but Bachelor is near Bend which is a great western town.

keefe · « **Reply #60 on:** March 28, 2014, 03:25:48 AM »

My view on events of this week is that the week isn't over and the heavy set female has yet to warble. Color me an optimist but I think the jury is still out.

MU Buff · « **Reply #61 on:** March 28, 2014, 04:20:53 AM »

Quote from: keefe on March 28, 2014, 03:25:48 AM

My view on events of this week is that the week isn't over and the heavy set female has yet to warble. Color me an optimist but I think the jury is still out.

Are you saying the MU-Shaka saga is not over?

willie warrior · « **Reply #62 on:** March 28, 2014, 05:50:27 AM »

Quote from: Goose on March 27, 2014, 09:17:56 PM

Chico's

You if anyone knows your stuff. We need one guy to say yes and everyone else can stand pat. Our job is best in country this year and guys are lining up. If we dance with Shaka for a week and nothing happens it might be time well spent.

No Goose--we need the right guy to say yes. How do you feel about Wardle saying yes?
frankly, I am glad that Smart turned us down. A prima donna who would likely do Obamacare commercials in his free time.