Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on November 02, 2024, 03:55:11 PMWho said he was on the level of Nick Saban?? You know, since we are quoting what was said and all. Still waiting on who said he Franklin would be fired as well.

You did improperly use the phrase. Again, look up what the boy who cried wolf meaning is.Its mind blowing you can be this stupid.

Wow. I have literally pointed out something you have said by repeatedly quoting you... and you can't understand it?

And now you are lashing out and calling me stupid for what exactly? Quoting you and directly using phrases correctly?

Are you not well or something???

Nebraska only down 20 at home in the 3rd against an explosive UCLA juggernaut.  Huskers might be back

Quote from: Uncle Rico on November 02, 2024, 04:53:15 PMNebraska only down 20 at home in the 3rd against an explosive UCLA juggernaut.  Huskers might be back

The Matt Rhule experiment isn't looking great in year two.

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on November 02, 2024, 05:02:21 PMThe Matt Rhule experiment isn't looking great in year two.

He's recruited better but they need to win this one.  At USC, vs. UW-Madison and at Iowa to close.

Nebraska's loss at home against a terrible UCLA team doesn't bode well for Georgetown.

Quote from: Lennys Tap on October 26, 2024, 04:52:31 PMIndiana 8-0. Every win by 14 or more. Won vs Washington behind their back up QB. First D1 team in 20 years to play 8 games without ever being behind. They're pretty good.

Indiana is 9-0. Every win by 14 or more. Trailed today (for the first time all year) 10-0 on the road, came back to score 47 straight and win 47-10. They're pretty good.

Quote from: Lennys Tap on November 02, 2024, 06:35:55 PMIndiana is 9-0. Every win by 14 or more. Trailed today (for the first time all year) 10-0 on the road, came back to score 47 straight and win 47-10. They're pretty good.

IU has been very impressive. I think they were picked last in the B10 preseason.

Quote from: Lennys Tap on November 02, 2024, 06:35:55 PMIndiana is 9-0. Every win by 14 or more. Trailed today (for the first time all year) 10-0 on the road, came back to score 47 straight and win 47-10. They're pretty good.

Game against Ohio State looks like a B10 Championship Game semifinal.

Wisconsin should give Fickell a raise. 

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on November 02, 2024, 07:39:55 PMGame against Ohio State looks like a B10 Championship Game semifinal.

They should beat Michigan(when has Indiana football ever said that?). If they do you're right about IU vs OSU.

Iowa looks really good. 

Rough night for Tyler from Spartanburg.

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on November 02, 2024, 05:02:21 PMThe Matt Rhule experiment isn't looking great in year two.

Fickell sucks worse   

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on November 02, 2024, 07:39:55 PMGame against Ohio State looks like a B10 Championship Game semifinal.

Will get smoked by TOSU.

Quote from: Pakuni on November 02, 2024, 10:37:17 PMRough night for Tyler from Spartanburg.

For all the talk of Franklin, Clemson is in a way worse position.  The only job Dabo probably would have left for is Bama, and thats never happening now.  And you can't fire a guy who has 2 Nattys in the last decade, but they are a ship adrift in windless seas.  Unless he suddenly changes his mind on the portal, they are gonna be a good but very flawed team every year like this.

As for Franklin, I think the criticism is overstating what Penn State is.  Its a one coach program in the modern era, and the last decade of Paterno was worse than what Franklin is doing, and that was before the massive black eye.  JoePa finished in the top 10 4 times in his last 17 years.  Franklin has finished in the top 10 4 times in the last 8.

Its Penn State, its not OSU, its not Michigan, its not Bama.  Its more like VT or Iowa than the others.

Also, if Clemson divorced from Dabo somehow, they have a lot of attractive candidates in the mix.  Penn St?  Not so much

I think Penn State would be a more attractive job than when Franklin took over, but yeah. That is largely correct. On top of that, it's a bit of a quirky place. Geographically and culturally isolated.

Quote from: PointWarrior on November 02, 2024, 11:39:08 PMFickell sucks worse   

That certainly looks to be the case. It's one thing to see a Wisconsin team losing to a team like Ohio State or Michigan with better skill-position players, but it's quite another to see an Iowa team completely dominating both sides of the line of scrimmage like yesterday.

Moving on from Chryst was a no-brainer. The offense was old-fashioned and the recruiting wasn't great. He hasn't had a sniff for another power job as a result.

The Fickell hire obviously was considered a coup. But the Longo hire looks like a disaster, and defensively I have no idea what they are doing. They look so weak on the first and second levels defensively - Iowa ran the same run play to the left over and over, and UW looked hopeless.

Moving so far from a certain "style" of play has left them without any identity whatsoever. I don't think most Wisconsin fans believe they should be constant contenders. Even when you look at Barry Alvarez's record, you will see a number of very average years in between successful ones.  But they always had an identity - strength on the lines, decent RBs and LBs who played hard and fundamentally well, but whose success was largely due to variance in talent at the QB, WR and DB positions.  Now I have no idea what they are doing.

Quote from: JWags85 on November 02, 2024, 11:41:59 PMFor all the talk of Franklin, Clemson is in a way worse position.  The only job Dabo probably would have left for is Bama, and thats never happening now.  And you can't fire a guy who has 2 Nattys in the last decade, but they are a ship adrift in windless seas.  Unless he suddenly changes his mind on the portal, they are gonna be a good but very flawed team every year like this.

As for Franklin, I think the criticism is overstating what Penn State is.  Its a one coach program in the modern era, and the last decade of Paterno was worse than what Franklin is doing, and that was before the massive black eye.  JoePa finished in the top 10 4 times in his last 17 years.  Franklin has finished in the top 10 4 times in the last 8.

Its Penn State, its not OSU, its not Michigan, its not Bama.  Its more like VT or Iowa than the others.

Also, if Clemson divorced from Dabo somehow, they have a lot of attractive candidates in the mix.  Penn St?  Not so much

Penn State isn't Michigan?  Not so sure about that.  Michigan had a great 3-year run but have basically been on the same level as Penn State since Carr retired.  If Michigan can have a 3-year run like they did, no reason Penn State can't.

WIAC Results that directly impact Marquette's cause:

UW-Oshkosh 42 UWEC 31

UW-Platteville 42 UWSP 14

UW-LaCrosse 33 UW-Stout 31

UW-Whitewater 13 UW-River Falls 7

Quote from: Uncle Rico on November 03, 2024, 07:10:31 AMPenn State isn't Michigan?  Not so sure about that.  Michigan had a great 3-year run but have basically been on the same level as Penn State since Carr retired.  If Michigan can have a 3-year run like they did, no reason Penn State can't.

Penn State is an interesting program. Personally, they would not be on my 'Blue Blood' list but Michigan would. Now 'Blue Blood' is the the very definition of subjective ranking or classification. They are a very good program but the lack of CFP appearances hurts them in my eyes. Look at TCU, not a 'Blue Blood', has finished #2 twice in the past 20 years and 5 or 6 top 10 finishes. Penn State is more consistent than a TCU but is missing the elite teams from its resume. IMO Penn State is as close to 'Blue Blood' without being a 'Blue Blood' as you can get.

Quote from: WhiteTrash on November 03, 2024, 07:39:20 AMPenn State is an interesting program. Personally, they would not be on my 'Blue Blood' list but Michigan would. Now 'Blue Blood' is the the very definition of subjective ranking or classification. They are a very good program but the lack of CFP appearances hurts them in my eyes. Look at TCU, not a 'Blue Blood', has finished #2 twice in the past 20 years and 5 or 6 top 10 finishes. Penn State is more consistent than a TCU but is missing the elite teams from its resume. IMO Penn State is as close to 'Blue Blood' without being a 'Blue Blood' as you can get.

Michigan last won an "outright" national title in 1948 before last year, sharing the '97 title with Nebraska.  Penn State won two national titles in the 80's.  They're basically the same.

They were something like 2-8 in Rose Bowls under Bo. 

Michigan has the better past half decade.  Penn State can match those results.  Both need a lot of luck and a lot to go right. 

Quote from: Uncle Rico on November 03, 2024, 07:58:52 AMMichigan last won an "outright" national title in 1948 before last year, sharing the '97 title with Nebraska.  Penn State won two national titles in the 80's.  They're basically the same.

They were something like 2-8 in Rose Bowls under Bo. 

Michigan has the better past half decade.  Penn State can match those results.  Both need a lot of luck and a lot to go right. 

Great points. I guess I bought into the media hype of Michigan over PSU.

Quote from: Uncle Rico on November 03, 2024, 07:10:31 AMPenn State isn't Michigan?  Not so sure about that.  Michigan had a great 3-year run but have basically been on the same level as Penn State since Carr retired.  If Michigan can have a 3-year run like they did, no reason Penn State can't.

Michigan is arguably the best college football program in history (wins, winning seasons, poll appearances, etc...)  They've had lean years recently, but they are a legendary program.  Obviously that doesn't guarantee current and future success, as we've seen with Notre Dame or Texas until Sark, but it puts them at a different level and baseline than Penn State.

Can Penn State have a run?  Sure.  But I'm saying the expectation is more detached from reality at PSU than Michigan.  Michigan has had 4 different coaches since 1970 who coached at least 5 seasons who have a better winning percentage than JoePa.

Quote from: JWags85 on November 03, 2024, 08:07:53 AMMichigan is arguably the best college football program in history (wins, winning seasons, poll appearances, etc...)  They've had lean years recently, but they are a legendary program.  Obviously that doesn't guarantee current and future success, as we've seen with Notre Dame or Texas until Sark, but it puts them at a different level and baseline than Penn State.

Can Penn State have a run?  Sure.  But I'm saying the expectation is more detached from reality at PSU than Michigan.  Michigan has had 4 different coaches since 1970 who coached at least 5 seasons who have a better winning percentage than JoePa.

It's a fun argument.  I think what Michigan did the last 3 years will be the exception, not the rule.

I'm no Penn State fan.  I do think they have a program that is capable of reaching another level with the right coach in place.  I'm ok with Frames keeping the gig and keeping them just out of reach of real greatness

Huskers lose at home to Bruins. Still have a long way to go in their return to respectability.

Badgers may end up regretting Big Ten expansion as another brutal game looms on the horizon against Ducks