Vaccinations & Antibodies

[DegenerateDish]

Round 3 of Moderna in my arm this morning. Little foggy this evening, but otherwise all good. My 3 kids get their first doses tomorrow.

[JWags85]

Round 3 of Moderna in my arm this morning. Little foggy this evening, but otherwise all good. My 3 kids get their first doses tomorrow.

Just got my round 3 of Pfizer around lunchtime.  Nothing of note for me, but my wife is starting to struggle.  Dose 1 hit her pretty good, so its not totally unsurprising

[pbiflyer]

Republican Washington State Senator Doug Ericksen, who has been fighting vaccine mandates, is stranded in El Salvador with COVID, and cannot get home.

https://twitter.com/MikeSington/status/1459619424634163201?s=20

Gee, that's too bad.

[forgetful]

Republican Washington State Senator Doug Ericksen, who has been fighting vaccine mandates, is stranded in El Salvador with COVID, and cannot get home.

https://twitter.com/MikeSington/status/1459619424634163201?s=20

Gee, that's too bad.

Willing to bet he gets the monoclonal antibodies down there (with the drugs shipped to him), while there are a lot of Americans who do not get it, because they are told they don't qualify.

[Uncle Rico]

Republican Washington State Senator Doug Ericksen, who has been fighting vaccine mandates, is stranded in El Salvador with COVID, and cannot get home.

https://twitter.com/MikeSington/status/1459619424634163201?s=20

Gee, that's too bad.

Thoughts and prayers

[Warriors4ever]

As of October, a visitor was required to show either proof of vaccination or a negative test to enter El Salvador.

[JWags85]

Willing to bet he gets the monoclonal antibodies down there (with the drugs shipped to him), while there are a lot of Americans who do not get it, because they are told they don't qualify.

He's a state senator, not a US senator.  I don't think he's gonna get super special treatment with a Democrat governor and a largely left leaning state government in his home state.

[MU82]

Once again, DeSantis and his toadies are working OT to make Floridians less safe and to ensure that COVID-19 will remain virulent in Florida longer. And they are doing it for purely political reasons.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-11-17/florida-legislators-agree-to-fine-employers-for-vaccine-mandates?campaign_id=4&emc=edit_dk_20211118&instance_id=45707&nl=dealbook&regi_id=108420427&segment_id=74731&te=1&user_id=d36dcf821462fdd16ec3636710a855fa

[Hards Alumni]

Once again, DeSantis and his toadies are working OT to make Floridians less safe and to ensure that COVID-19 will remain virulent in Florida longer. And they are doing it for purely political reasons.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-11-17/florida-legislators-agree-to-fine-employers-for-vaccine-mandates?campaign_id=4&emc=edit_dk_20211118&instance_id=45707&nl=dealbook&regi_id=108420427&segment_id=74731&te=1&user_id=d36dcf821462fdd16ec3636710a855fa

There is choice involved.  They can wear 'protective equipment' in lieu of being vaccinated. 

But this is all silliness at this point anyway.  Anyone who wants to be vaccinated or have their child over 5 vaccinated can do so.  Children under 5 have an incredibly tiny chance of being hospitalized and even smaller of dying.  Is it sad that 292 children have died of Covid19 in the last two years?  Of course. 

Short of holding people down and vaccinating them, this is what our society has decided we are okay with.  We won't have zero death rate ever since the virus is endemic worldwide.

It's probably okay to stop being outraged about vaccine mandates.  We are currently at 79.8% of all people over the age of 12 being vaccinated, and that number is climbing every day.  Our country is too misinformed to get above 90% so we should accept that what we have done is probably as good as we can expect.

[MU82]

There is choice involved.  They can wear 'protective equipment' in lieu of being vaccinated. 

But this is all silliness at this point anyway.  Anyone who wants to be vaccinated or have their child over 5 vaccinated can do so.  Children under 5 have an incredibly tiny chance of being hospitalized and even smaller of dying.  Is it sad that 292 children have died of Covid19 in the last two years?  Of course. 

Short of holding people down and vaccinating them, this is what our society has decided we are okay with.  We won't have zero death rate ever since the virus is endemic worldwide.

It's probably okay to stop being outraged about vaccine mandates.  We are currently at 79.8% of all people over the age of 12 being vaccinated, and that number is climbing every day.  Our country is too misinformed to get above 90% so we should accept that what we have done is probably as good as we can expect.

Curious where you get your numbers, Hards. I'm not seeing anywhere near that high a percentage of vaccinated Americans on any site I check.

For example, this one suggests much lower figures than 80% of 12+:

https://usafacts.org/visualizations/covid-vaccine-tracker-states/

I am NOT saying your stat is wrong. I'd like to see the source so I know where to get it quickly in the future.

And for the record, I'm only "outraged" at politicians who, for purely political purposes, go out of their way to undermine proven measures at combatting COVID-19.

[4everwarriors]

Once again, DeSantis and his toadies are working OT to make Floridians less safe and to ensure that COVID-19 will remain virulent in Florida longer. And they are doing it for purely political reasons.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-11-17/florida-legislators-agree-to-fine-employers-for-vaccine-mandates?campaign_id=4&emc=edit_dk_20211118&instance_id=45707&nl=dealbook&regi_id=108420427&segment_id=74731&te=1&user_id=d36dcf821462fdd16ec3636710a855fa

You don't live in his state, so this does not concern you. And, for those who do, they can move to tax hell California and be among like minded folks, aina?

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

You don't live in his state, so this does not concern you. And, for those who do, they can move to tax hell California and be among like minded folks, aina?

Yes good point.  Because the virus stops at state lines.

It's amazing how quickly pro-business types turn anti-business when they make decisions they don't like.

[tower912]

You don't live in his state, so this does not concern you. And, for those who do, they can move to tax hell California and be among like minded folks, aina?

Cuz thee crayzee fooker iz thankin bout the big chare.   

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Curious where you get your numbers, Hards. I'm not seeing anywhere near that high a percentage of vaccinated Americans on any site I check.

For example, this one suggests much lower figures than 80% of 12+:

https://usafacts.org/visualizations/covid-vaccine-tracker-states/

I am NOT saying your stat is wrong. I'd like to see the source so I know where to get it quickly in the future.

And for the record, I'm only "outraged" at politicians who, for purely political purposes, go out of their way to undermine proven measures at combatting COVID-19.

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#vaccinations_vacc-total-admin-rate-total

80% of 12+ have received at least one dose.  About 70% are fully vaccinated.  Your data shows percent of US population.

The fact that we are at 80% receiving one dose is frankly miraculous considering how loud the idiotic anti-vaccine message is right now.  And it also shows how much in the minority those people are.

[tower912]

They have their borax baths to take away the sting.   

[Hards Alumni]

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#vaccinations_vacc-total-admin-rate-total

80% of 12+ have received at least one dose.  About 70% are fully vaccinated.  Your data shows percent of US population.

The fact that we are at 80% receiving one dose is frankly miraculous considering how loud the idiotic anti-vaccine message is right now.  And it also shows how much in the minority those people are.

Thanks, I was about to link the same.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Thanks, I was about to link the same.

And I agree with you that the 80% figure is likely good enough.  At some point, we have to move on here.

[Warriors4ever]

https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2021-11-17/sweden-to-introduce-covid-vaccine-passes-for-indoors-events?context=amp

Well well well. Look who is introducing vaccine passes.

[MU82]

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#vaccinations_vacc-total-admin-rate-total

80% of 12+ have received at least one dose.  About 70% are fully vaccinated.  Your data shows percent of US population.

The fact that we are at 80% receiving one dose is frankly miraculous considering how loud the idiotic anti-vaccine message is right now.  And it also shows how much in the minority those people are.

I appreciate the link, Sultan. Just what I was looking for. I've bookmarked it.

At some point, we have to move on here.

Move on from what? From caring that politicians keep trying to prevent private companies from protecting their employees and customers?

[MU82]

You don't live in his state, so this does not concern you. And, for those who do, they can move to tax hell California and be among like minded folks, aina?

You don't live in his state, either. And yet you defend somebody who is willing to let people die or get seriously ill for purely political reasons, nu?

[4everwarriors]

When are you going to turn the corner? When Fr. Fauci says its ok to breathe again? The vaccine has limited efficacy. Waitin' on effective, available therapeutics.
BTW, should Gov. DeSantis decide to pursue the presidency in 2024, FD Joe, Harris, or Mayor Pete can't beat him, hey?

[tower912]

When are you going to turn the corner? When Fr. Fauci says its ok to breathe again? The vaccine has limited efficacy. Waitin' on effective, available therapeutics.
BTW, should Gov. DeSantis decide to pursue the presidency in 2024, FD Joe, Harris, or Mayor Pete can't beat him, hey?

When I stop doing CPR on the unvaxxed.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

When are you going to turn the corner? When Fr. Fauci says its ok to breathe again? The vaccine has limited efficacy.

Something tells me that you don't understand "efficacy."

https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/covid-19-vaccine-efficacy-and-effectiveness

[MU Fan in Connecticut]

When are you going to turn the corner? When Fr. Fauci says its ok to breathe again? The vaccine has limited efficacy. Waitin' on effective, available therapeutics.
BTW, should Gov. DeSantis decide to pursue the presidency in 2024, FD Joe, Harris, or Mayor Pete can't beat him, hey?

DeSantis had been hanging with Gaetz apparently.

[tower912]

When are you going to turn the corner? When Fr. Fauci says its ok to breathe again? The vaccine has limited efficacy. Waitin' on effective, available therapeutics.
BTW, should Gov. DeSantis decide to pursue the presidency in 2024, FD Joe, Harris, or Mayor Pete can't beat him, hey?

How many people that you are connected to have died from COVID?  For me, between retirees who were once my friends, my relatives, parents of co-workers, and patients I have done CPR on, the number is in the upper teens.   

Yeah, it is irksome.  Still fatal.   Or with symptoms that don't leave. 

But if everyone had just submitted to authority, it would be far less.  Aina.