Oso planning to go pro
How about that episode, huh?
What is the MU Scoop over / under on how many years George Martin Has left. He does kind of look like a coronary arrest on legs, after all.
I don't actually care that much if he finishes the books or not. Sure, reading them is enjoyable, but at this point I'm more interested in knowing how the story ends. The TV show will do a fine (and arguably tighter) job of doing that.
The show will likely be deviating from the plotlines that Martin has.
Decent start, as usual mostly setup. Really looking forward to the story at the Wall this season, and how they handle Tyrion's journey.
For those who don't binge watch previous season the weeks, days, hours leading up to the season premiere episodes like last night are necessary because of everything going on. Needs to re-establish characters and start rebuilding on them. Only thing that stinks is its 10% of the season. Oh well...its necessary.Who else has the first four episodes on their laptop?
I had a friend who's a major fanboy and read the books before watching the show and he said 95% of the time the show improved things when they made changes from the books.Does there come a point where Martin gets hamstrung by what the tv show presents versus the previous paradigm? Is this a totally stupid line of discussion?
Watched the premiere using HBO Now. Ordered through Apple (will switch when Amazon gets it ~July), watched on a Windows laptop. No issues at all - well done, HBO. When factoring what would be practical for the show versus books, I'd say it's about evenly divided between an improvement, worse, or the same either way. Some things are logical and well done - they combine characters from books into one show character very well without missing anything. Others suck - they have completely botched the Stannis character, one of the fan favorites from the books. This season should have more changes - Sansa seems to be on a path far more interesting than the books; Jaime on one that will cause them to forgo one of my favorite scenes in all the books. The books won't lose their value. There are a ton of theories, hidden messages, and other things that unfold/will unfold in the books; even though the show has been pitched as believing people are smart and can follow it compared to most dumbed-down programming, it's still a drop in the water of the books.
absolutely. I think the previous quote of 95% of the time they improved is an overstatement. Having read the books, you notice so many more nuances, character development, more characters, and a lot of foreshadowing. The books will always be canon to me, with the show being an abridged version (Readers Digest version).
I've been reading A Song of Ice and Fire for 15 years. He'd better finish the freaking books!It was bad enough with Robert Jordan died without finishing the Wheel of Time series! Gah!
So what happens if the show has to move on without the books because they aren't done in time. Does that ruin the books or ruin the show or neither? Does that put Martin in a box or will it be ok with the show goes a completely different direction than the books to wrap it up?Side note, how many books are there out now and how many left to finish the series?