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Author Topic: Big East Polls, NET Rankings and Team Sheets  (Read 110743 times)

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Re: Big East Polls, NET Rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #625 on: February 28, 2022, 08:48:03 AM »
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Feb 27, 2022
•   After beating Butler 64-56 yesterday, Marquette is now projected to finish the regular season 19-11 (11-8 Big East).
•   We currently rank Marquette as the #41 team in the country, and the #6 team in the Big East.
•   Next game: Wed, Mar 2 at #94 DePaul. Our power ratings give the Golden Eagles a 57% chance to win.
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Make NCAA Tournament 100%
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Projected Seed 8

Yuck! Sure who wouldn't like to be a 6 or 7, I'd rather be a 10 or 11 as you play a 6 or 7 anyway than a 8 or 9.

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Re: Big East Polls, NET Rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #626 on: February 28, 2022, 09:03:04 AM »
Yuck! Sure who wouldn't like to be a 6 or 7, I'd rather be a 10 or 11 as you play a 6 or 7 anyway than a 8 or 9.

Unless we get up to a 6. It doesnt matter much.

8/9 sucks typically. But for us the second game is gonna be all about getting the right 1 or 2 seed anyways.

We could be an 8 that is assigned to 1 seed Baylor. Or a 7 with 2 seed Kentucky.

I want Baylor without hesitation.

Kentucky is the biggest nightmare for us. Unless they somehow move up to a 1(unlikely at this point) I basically wanna stay outta 7/10 to avoid that match up at all costs.
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Re: Big East Polls, NET Rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #627 on: February 28, 2022, 11:53:52 AM »
Unless we get up to a 6. It doesnt matter much.

8/9 sucks typically. But for us the second game is gonna be all about getting the right 1 or 2 seed anyways.

We could be an 8 that is assigned to 1 seed Baylor. Or a 7 with 2 seed Kentucky.

I want Baylor without hesitation.

Kentucky is the biggest nightmare for us. Unless they somehow move up to a 1(unlikely at this point) I basically wanna stay outta 7/10 to avoid that match up at all costs.
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Re: Big East Polls, NET Rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #628 on: February 28, 2022, 12:02:06 PM »
We went down 2 spots in the NET after winning and then up 2 spots after not playing.

We're 57% likely to beat DePaul, and probably even more likely to beat St. John's, but we're projected to only go 1-1 in those 2 games.

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Re: Big East Polls, NET Rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #629 on: February 28, 2022, 12:15:42 PM »
We went down 2 spots in the NET after winning and then up 2 spots after not playing.

We're 57% likely to beat DePaul, and probably even more likely to beat St. John's, but we're projected to only go 1-1 in those 2 games.

Can't beat this stuff for fun!

61% vs. DePaul, 72% vs. SJU, per Kenpom.

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Re: Big East Polls, NET Rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #630 on: February 28, 2022, 12:35:07 PM »
Big East Poll Rankings as of February 28,2022

AP
9. Cooley & Company
11.Nova
18. U Conn
Others Receiving Votes
MU
Coaches
8. Cooley & Company
11.Nova
19. U-Conn
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MU, The Hall, Creighton
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Re: Big East Polls, NET Rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #631 on: February 28, 2022, 01:02:50 PM »
We went down 2 spots in the NET after winning and then up 2 spots after not playing.

We're 57% likely to beat DePaul, and probably even more likely to beat St. John's, but we're projected to only go 1-1 in those 2 games.

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I think Illinois win helped
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Re: Big East Polls, NET Rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #632 on: February 28, 2022, 01:23:41 PM »
We went down 2 spots in the NET after winning and then up 2 spots after not playing.

Didn't beat Butler by as much as we were supposed to which is the main reason we moved down.

We moved up because Illinois got a big win over Michigan which improved our score...and also dropped Michigan from above us to below us. DePaul also beat St. John's so that improved our score because we haven't played SJU yet (will correct once we do play them).

We're 57% likely to beat DePaul, and probably even more likely to beat St. John's, but we're projected to only go 1-1 in those 2 games.

Can't beat this stuff for fun!

We're actually projected as having a 61% chance at beating DePaul and a 72% chance of beating St. John's. The reason we are projected to go 1-1 is because you don't look at every game individually, you look at all the the remaining games together. To calculate that, you multiple 61% by 72% which gives you 43.9%. So KenPom is giving us 43.9% chance to go 2-0, a 10.9% chance of going 0-2, and a 45.2% chance of going 1-1.
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Re: Big East Polls, NET Rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #633 on: February 28, 2022, 01:34:13 PM »
Marquette is 29th in Coaches Poll and 34th in AP Poll

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Re: Big East Polls, NET Rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #634 on: February 28, 2022, 01:37:14 PM »
Didn't beat Butler by as much as we were supposed to which is the main reason we moved down.

We moved up because Illinois got a big win over Michigan which improved our score...and also dropped Michigan from above us to below us. DePaul also beat St. John's so that improved our score because we haven't played SJU yet (will correct once we do play them).

We're actually projected as having a 61% chance at beating DePaul and a 72% chance of beating St. John's. The reason we are projected to go 1-1 is because you don't look at every game individually, you look at all the the remaining games together. To calculate that, you multiple 61% by 72% which gives you 43.9%. So KenPom is giving us 43.9% chance to go 2-0, a 10.9% chance of going 0-2, and a 45.2% chance of going 1-1.

Not much though will it?

I mean we play DePaul for a second time on Wednesday then SJU on Saturday. So DePaul will still hold more weight.

By playing SJU finally all their results will finally have an actual impact though I guess.
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Re: Big East Polls, NET Rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #635 on: February 28, 2022, 01:39:46 PM »
Unless we get up to a 6. It doesnt matter much.

8/9 sucks typically. But for us the second game is gonna be all about getting the right 1 or 2 seed anyways.

We could be an 8 that is assigned to 1 seed Baylor. Or a 7 with 2 seed Kentucky.

I want Baylor without hesitation.

Kentucky is the biggest nightmare for us. Unless they somehow move up to a 1(unlikely at this point) I basically wanna stay outta 7/10 to avoid that match up at all costs.

If you can't be a 6 the way I see it an 11 is just as good. If you win that game you play the 3. For the stat guys is there really that much of difference between the 6-11 seeds.
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« Reply #636 on: February 28, 2022, 01:42:35 PM »
If you can't be a 6 the way I see it an 11 is just as good. If you win that game you play the 3.

Yes of course.

But two things

1. your first round game is still much tougher than what youd ideally want

2. There is almost no way we end up a 11 seed. To get that we literally have to actively cheer  for the team to lose their last 3...and even that leaves a 11 seed as unlikely. I for one will not be cheering for 3 losses.

So time to play for a 6. Otherwise pray we don't get a one of the top dogs with dominate bigs.
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Re: Big East Polls, NET Rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #637 on: February 28, 2022, 02:05:54 PM »
We went down 2 spots in the NET after winning and then up 2 spots after not playing.

We're 57% likely to beat DePaul, and probably even more likely to beat St. John's, but we're projected to only go 1-1 in those 2 games.

Can't beat this stuff for fun!
if DeP beats us by double-figures, I won’t be surprised. Hopefully the ‘home’ crowd helps.

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« Reply #638 on: February 28, 2022, 02:23:54 PM »
Didn't beat Butler by as much as we were supposed to which is the main reason we moved down.
The spread was 8.  MU won by 8.
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« Reply #639 on: February 28, 2022, 02:38:19 PM »
The spread was 8.  MU won by 8.

That was the betting line.  However if you look at the current Sagarin numbers (albeit this is now post game) we should have won by 11.5.  Not sure if the other metrics also expected a larger win but I would not be surprised.

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« Reply #640 on: February 28, 2022, 02:40:05 PM »
The spread was 8.  MU won by 8.

Pomeroy / Torvic expected a 11/10.8 point spread.

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« Reply #641 on: February 28, 2022, 02:51:27 PM »
I guess MU should have started playing defense sooner.
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« Reply #642 on: February 28, 2022, 03:26:53 PM »
if DeP beats us by double-figures, I won’t be surprised. Hopefully the ‘home’ crowd helps.

I think MU matches up pretty well with DePaul. They will kill us on the boards, but other than that we should have the advantages. They don't play defense well and on offense they are very ISO heavy. The way to beat MU seems to be attack our aggressive closeouts and rotate the ball, forcing MU to scramble. DePaul doesn't do a lot of that.

Most importantly, they don't defend the pick and roll very well.

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« Reply #643 on: February 28, 2022, 05:01:05 PM »
Truthfully, I cannot believe all of the comments about being worried about the DePaul game. Sure, you can lose any game that you play, but I think both sides of shown a body of work this season and I like ours better.

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« Reply #644 on: February 28, 2022, 05:16:13 PM »
Truthfully, I cannot believe all of the comments about being worried about the DePaul game. Sure, you can lose any game that you play, but I think both sides of shown a body of work this season and I like ours better.


Especially since we will have the home crowd…

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Re: Big East Polls, NET Rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #645 on: February 28, 2022, 05:55:37 PM »
Goose - the COLE is still strong in some. 


Truthfully, I cannot believe all of the comments about being worried about the DePaul game. Sure, you can lose any game that you play, but I think both sides of shown a body of work this season and I like ours better.

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« Reply #646 on: February 28, 2022, 06:08:58 PM »
Goose - the COLE is still strong in some.

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Re: Big East Polls, NET Rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #647 on: February 28, 2022, 06:12:07 PM »

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« Reply #648 on: February 28, 2022, 06:22:27 PM »
A win at DePaul and at home vs. StJ would be quad 2 wins for us based on the NET Rankings today.  Then if Seton Hall can win big vs. GTown and beat Creighton on the road, then our home victory against the Hall earlier in the year should become a Quad 1.  SH is a 32 NET rank now and home wins vs. 30 NET rank or better are Quad 1's.  So before the BET we can pick up 2 quad 2 wins and a quad 1.  Of course, the Creighton away loss could drop for a Quad 1 to a 2, so....

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« Reply #649 on: February 28, 2022, 08:16:12 PM »
That's not COLE...  I have much higher expectations than how they are current playing. They have been playing like crap for long stretches, and they may not win again this year unless they improve.  I expect them to improve.


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