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Let's check in on Harvard to see how they are doing considering they are doomed and all.

https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2024/5/23/harvard-college-yield-rate-2024/

"More than 84 percent of Harvard College’s admitted Class of 2028 will be enrolling, Dean of Admissions and Financial Aid William R. Fitzsimmons ’67 announced in his Class Day address to the Class of 2024.

The figure is slightly higher than last year’s yield, according to Fitzsimmons, and is a sign of further resilience for Harvard admissions amidst the most tumultuous year for the University in decades. Approximately 84 percent of the admitted Class of 2027 ultimately matriculated."


Huh.
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The Superbar / Re: US Economy thread
« Last post by The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on Today at 07:33:20 AM »
Then you're being as disingenuous as Heisey, or you didn't bother to read the article.  You're usually smarter than that, but maybe you were just being lazy.

If any of this was your attempt at a dunk, you got rejected by the rim.

BM at least posted actual current and relevant data.
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The Superbar / Re: US Economy thread
« Last post by Hards Alumni on Today at 06:17:08 AM »
I'm not entirely victim blaming, but the idea of "go to college and you'll be fine no matter what" hasn't been true for 20 years.  People using that myth to justify complaining that they can't find a job or they are underemployed with a degree from a middling university in a silly major.  Some of that definitely falls to parents for buying into it, but it wasn't a prevailing theme even recently.

I graduated HS in 2003 and even then my parents and my friends parents were very much of the mentality of "we'll help you with school, but make sure its a degree with value."  Hell, I was a Psych major (eventually double major) and I had to work out what I planned to do with it for my dad and my grandfather (one for college help, the other for avoiding stern lectures about my future).   I got into a good school so I was fortunate, but my neighbor who was a year younger ended up going to CC for 2 years and transferring to Marquette (instead of going 4 years at a lower level school), not in small part to discussions his father and my father had.

I'm firmly a millennial and I have siblings aged across the next decade into the zoomers, so I have a broad scope of viewpoints and experiences of the age range.  I don't disagree with some of the points, what I do disagree with is supposedly smart people (both parents and children) who employed little to no critical thinking and now perpetually complain about the system.  For everyone first generation college grad with a ton of debt who is underemployed (who has truly been screwed and I feel for) you have another one or two 20 somethings who graduated with a 3.0 from a mid level university with a marketing degree and expect a very well paying job because they have a degree.
 
Also, for your statement about middle class income, I think people havent scaled what they think of as middle class.  I saw median income for middle class nationally was roughly $91K.  I know 3 different friends/family who make within $10K of that number who are a single earner household with 1-2 kids.  They don't live in Lincoln Park or Brookfield or Highland Park (they are in Chicago, MKE, and Dallas burbs respectively) but they have no issue with it.  I would cede that its tougher with current interest rates, but 2 of them bought in the 4% range (the other still rents a 3BR apartment).  I feel like people making the "middle class can't do XYZ" argument still view middle class as $60-70K.

If you don't remember this being a part of the cultural zeitgeist of the mid 90s to middle 00s then I'm not sure you were paying attention.  It was pounded into me from an early age and I graduated HS in 2000.  Not only from my parents (both educators with advanced degrees), but TV and school as well.

I read TAMUs post and it is very similar to my experience.
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The Superbar / Re: US Economy thread
« Last post by Hards Alumni on Today at 06:12:12 AM »

If you think data that is nine years old supports your opinion, that's fine.

I don't though.

Then you're being as disingenuous as Heisey, or you didn't bother to read the article.  You're usually smarter than that, but maybe you were just being lazy.
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The Superbar / Re: US Economy thread
« Last post by Hards Alumni on Today at 06:10:27 AM »
!10% inflation for 10+ years with stagnant wages from the 70s until the 90s. You are being reductive, but I don't think it's on purpose. It's worth reading about imo.

People in the US are currently whining about 8% inflation for 1 year.

Edit: I'm not trying to say today is better or worse than the 70s because I don't think that argument is valuable to have. I'm just trying to say that you shouldn't discount dgies experience when he was fresh out of college. They were not easy times.

I'm not discounting them, and obviously there were a myriad of issues to contend with as a 1970s new college grad.  In contrast, he's suggesting that 'kids these days' don't have it so bad, and is comparing it back to a time where life was objectively more affordable.
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The Superbar / Re: US Economy thread
« Last post by jesmu84 on Today at 06:09:05 AM »
Expansion of the student loan debt relief program for teachers and law enforcement isn’t necessarily bad public policy.

The majority of the recently announced cancellations (I assume that's what rocket is referencing) is just upholding the governments side of legitimate PSLF claims.
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COVID-19 / Re: Will you get the Covid Vaccine?
« Last post by The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on Today at 05:18:14 AM »
Actually Reagan was a supporter of science…and knew about horses.

He’d be rolling over in his grave at doctors who think horse dewormer is a good treatment for a viral disease.
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The Superbar / Re: US Economy thread
« Last post by The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on Today at 05:16:10 AM »
seems like weekend has just turned this college thing into the "new bank bail out" operation.  way past due to put the financial onus on the colleges who offer these value-less "edumacations" so they can put their money where their mouth is.  make them responsible for collecting the debt. 
   maybe these schools would then quit offering some of these fairy tale majors the 'students" could learn in a few hours online on their own

btw wags, my youngest son story is very similar to yours.  I told him (gently however) to sprinkle  some business/marketing in with his psych major and he had the good fortunes of getting in to a work study with a prominent Milwaukee area business.  he walked straight off the stage with his diploma into this company's line and has been promoted numerous times and yes, it is within their marketing department.  my oldest, in finance, is also in the marketing department of a prominent national financial institution

Expansion of the student loan debt relief program for teachers and law enforcement isn’t necessarily bad public policy.
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COVID-19 / Re: Will you get the Covid Vaccine?
« Last post by rocket surgeon on Today at 05:05:36 AM »

He's 100x the doctor you are.

  so there!!   ouch!!  hahahahahah  you really know how to hurt a guy's feelings

  president reagan is rolling in his grave and would've chit-canned this fake if he knew what a fraud he has become

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The Superbar / Re: Golf 2024
« Last post by rocket surgeon on Today at 04:53:28 AM »
just finished our 3 day-4 round legend challenge over the past weekend.  the best may weekend we've had since I can remember.  one team of 12 from each of the 4 clubs in a modified Ryder cup style competition.  the most fun a group of guys can have (thankfully) with their clothes on.

all 4 courses are in incredible shape with Merrill getting ready for the wsga state amateur championship in July.  the rough is becoming tougher and jack will have the greens running at no less than a 14-15 stimp...no chit  to that as he does this for most big events including ours.  I've watched them check this myself with the ole stimpmeter

of the 4 courses, bergamont, an Andy North design, public/private course I believe one can golf for around $100, is an absolute bargain. 

ok reeeeeeko, yes, these are all dumps so please don't bother
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