COVID-19 (f/k/a "the Coronavirus")

[injuryBug]

Just found out somebody donated over 100 n95 masks to the school my kids go to.  They are handing out lunches for kids but those should be donated to the hospital

[TSmith34, Inc.]

And for CDC, the directive would be familiar, because it would mean testing and contact tracing - exactly what it did duding the H1N1 outbreak in 2009.

Do we really want to do that? rocket told us what a disaster it was in 2009, killing 12,000+ people.

[WarriorDad]

Holy sh*t.  Really?

It's pretty simple.  Empower the CDC to do the job it was created to do.  Fund them.  Back them.  That's what he should do.

Maybe I am missing something.  They are empowered and they are making decisions based on scientific merit.  Unless there is something to suggest differently with the slow down, this is caused by the CDC and their processes not by the executive showing it down.  He does plenty wrong all the time, how is he the one slowing CDC down in this case?

[WarriorDad]

I hope this isn't a serious question because the answer is so obvious, but: we want Trump in charge of the country (and acting like a leader), and CDC in charge of the scientific and logistical aspects of pandemic response.

The path to this is quite simple for Trump; just order CDC to do the jobs for which it was created: "disease control and prevention." And for CDC, the directive would be familiar, because it would mean testing and contact tracing - exactly what it did duding the H1N1 outbreak in 2009.

I am responding to the article linked that shows the slowing of testing because of criteria and process used by CDC.  Those are CDC decisions are they not?  Or is the President dictating to CDC what the criteria is?

This is why I keep asking the blame game stuff.  He is worthy of plenty of blame and so are endless other entities.  In this case some of you seem to want to blame him for an action caused by the  very department (CDC) you want calling the shots.  They are calling the shots on this topic and you are blaming him for the shots they have called.  Unless you have evidence that suggests he is the one slowing it down.  The article provided shows nothing of the kind.

[rocket surgeon]

What do we want?

The right to infect others!

When do we want it?

Now!

Oh, you seem to remember when the AIDS epidemic hit too?  Just be careful or something, eyn’a?  Here’s a Trojan and a new needle, now go have fun.  Well, they’re gonna do it anyway, so ya might as well...

[rocky_warrior]

I am responding to the article linked that shows the slowing of testing because of criteria and process used by CDC.  Those are CDC decisions are they not?  Or is the President dictating to CDC what the criteria is?

Yes, the Prez is dictating what the CDC can and cannot do:
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/486475-trump-administration-overrode-health-officials-recommendation-that-elderly

[muguru]

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/coronavirus-wuhan-lab-china-compete-us-sources

[MU82]

Oh, you seem to remember when the AIDS epidemic hit too?  Just be careful or something, eyn’a?  Here’s a Trojan and a new needle, now go have fun.  Well, they’re gonna do it anyway, so ya might as well...

Huh?

[jesmu84]

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/coronavirus-wuhan-lab-china-compete-us-sources

Please, for the love of God, stop this conspiracy theory madness.

"Sources"? GTFO.

Show me scientific proof/evidence. Generally, the scientists involved with research behind this disease do not believe any of this crap.

Exhibit A: https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2020/03/17/covid-19-coronavirus-did-not-come-from-a-lab-study-shows-natural-origins/#4a1034723728

[Johnny B]

Course fox news is the only ones reporting

[forgetful]

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/coronavirus-wuhan-lab-china-compete-us-sources

The article uses as evidence that the wet-market didn't sell bats.

Studies have shown that coronaviruses in bats are not a good match for SARS-COV-2. The best matches are in pangolin's, which are sold in the wet-market.

But on top of that, the first known case dates back to Nov. by a person not connected to the wet market.

This article is reckless, and Trump is even more reckless for essentially supporting it in the press conference.

[GooooMarquette]

I am responding to the article linked that shows the slowing of testing because of criteria and process used by CDC.  Those are CDC decisions are they not?  Or is the President dictating to CDC what the criteria is?

This is why I keep asking the blame game stuff.  He is worthy of plenty of blame and so are endless other entities.  In this case some of you seem to want to blame him for an action caused by the  very department (CDC) you want calling the shots.  They are calling the shots on this topic and you are blaming him for the shots they have called.  Unless you have evidence that suggests he is the one slowing it down.  The article provided shows nothing of the kind.

I am not talking about CDC just recommending what others should do...I am talking about CDC being ordered by Trump to take the lead in doing what needs to be done.

Earlier I posted CDC’s summary of the actions it took in 2009. I am looking for similar actions this time, not just CDC making recommendations, with POTUS delegating responsibility to overburdened state and local public health departments to carry them out. This is a dereliction of duty (and a classic Trumpian deflection of responsibility).

[Jockey]

Huh?

He’s actually getting goofier than Trump.

[Jay Bee]

He’s actually getting goofier than Trump.

Hey maybe you and MU82 can tell everyone how to get back to work? You guys/girls are the experts, aina? Lol

[reinko]

Hey maybe you and MU82 can tell everyone how to get back to work? You guys/girls are the experts, aina? Lol

Thought these were last days, why would you care about getting folks back to work?

[MU82]

Thought these were last days, why would you care about getting folks back to work?

Hey, when you've never had a significant other and when you are convinced you are about to die a virgin, you pretty much lose your mind. So BJ's obsessions are understandable.

[Jay Bee]

Hey, when you've never had a significant other and when you are convinced you are about to die a virgin, you pretty much lose your mind. So BJ's obsessions are understandable.

Stick to facts, bub. Enjoy your stimulus check.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

I'm not constantly mad at old and poor people.

I dislike MU82 and Jockey for many reasons, and find it ironic that they have been on the sidelines of the workforce for years based on a lot of their commentary. They are both bad people.

Cura personalis.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Hey maybe you and MU82 can tell everyone how to get back to work? You guys/girls are the experts, aina? Lol

Once again, this has been answered many times over in this thread. Reading comprehension much?

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Fox News contributor Bill Bennett offered perhaps the most high-profile comments on this in recent days, doubting this is even a “pandemic.”

“If you look at those numbers, and see the comparable, we’re going to have fewer fatalities from this than from the flu,” Bennett said, citing the latest projections. “For this, we scared the hell out of the American people, we lost 17 million jobs, we put a major dent in the economy, we closed down the schools … shut down the churches, and so on. You know, this was not and is not a pandemic.”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/factcheck/6-zombie-claims-about-the-coronavirus-that-just-wont-go-away/ar-BB12GbF0?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=DELLDHP

Tom Tomorrow had it nailed

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

This could be good news.  Let’s get these blood tests going (at scale). 

https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/prevention-cures/492691-have-i-already-had-coronavirus-how-would-i-know

[Lighthouse 84]

Fox News contributor Bill Bennett offered perhaps the most high-profile comments on this in recent days, doubting this is even a “pandemic.”

“If you look at those numbers, and see the comparable, we’re going to have fewer fatalities from this than from the flu,” Bennett said, citing the latest projections. “For this, we scared the hell out of the American people, we lost 17 million jobs, we put a major dent in the economy, we closed down the schools … shut down the churches, and so on. You know, this was not and is not a pandemic.”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/factcheck/6-zombie-claims-about-the-coronavirus-that-just-wont-go-away/ar-BB12GbF0?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=DELLDHP

Tom Tomorrow had it nailed

Same thing Anderson Cooper said March 4. Lots o’ people got it wrong, hey?

[GooooMarquette]

This could be good news.  Let’s get these blood tests going (at scale). 

https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/prevention-cures/492691-have-i-already-had-coronavirus-how-would-i-know

Mayo Clinic currently has capacity to run 10k of these per day.

https://www.medcitybeat.com/news-blog/2020/mayo-clinic-laboratories-capacity-10000-serologic-tests

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Same thing Anderson Cooper said March 4. Lots o’ people got it wrong, hey?

March 4th

[WarriorDad]

Yes, the Prez is dictating what the CDC can and cannot do:
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/486475-trump-administration-overrode-health-officials-recommendation-that-elderly

Can you provide some evidence 6 weeks later as it pertains to this article on testing that the Prez is slowing the process?