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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: TallTitan34 on October 18, 2023, 02:37:27 PM

Title: New MU Court
Post by: TallTitan34 on October 18, 2023, 02:37:27 PM
https://x.com/marquettembb/status/1714726970662043903?s=46&t=jxqs74xjrj0YOEifH9UtCw

Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: BrewCity83 on October 18, 2023, 02:38:53 PM
I like it!
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: TallTitan34 on October 18, 2023, 02:44:17 PM
I think I would prefer the stripes on the sidelines like this concept from @And1Designs on twitter:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CL7w713UwAAeIme?format=png&name=medium)

EDIT: JUST TO CLARIFY THIS ISN'T THE NEW COURT
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: cheebs09 on October 18, 2023, 02:46:23 PM
I’m excited they are going to the blue lane. It looks really nice.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 18, 2023, 02:47:47 PM
That's pretty sexy. I like it.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: Uncle Rico on October 18, 2023, 02:48:43 PM
Awful
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: Coleman on October 18, 2023, 02:56:21 PM
I like the opposing M - nice homage to the Mecca and old courts...


However...no AL McGuire court anymore?
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on October 18, 2023, 03:00:01 PM
Awful

Is there anything you enjoy? Like if MU wins the National Title this year are you going to complain that the temperature outside was too cold to enjoy the game?
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: cheebs09 on October 18, 2023, 03:07:20 PM
I like the opposing M - nice homage to the Mecca and old courts...


However...no AL McGuire court anymore?

That’s not the new court. Just a rendering someone made.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: Uncle Rico on October 18, 2023, 03:07:51 PM
Is there anything you enjoy? Like if MU wins the National Title this year are you going to complain that the temperature outside was too cold to enjoy the game?

Depends
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: wadesworld on October 18, 2023, 03:09:40 PM
I'm a fan of clean.  Too much going on with the stripes around the court.  It's not awful, but I don't see it as an upgrade.

Would've been a lot more excited for new uniforms.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: TallTitan34 on October 18, 2023, 03:25:03 PM
I'm a fan of clean.  Too much going on with the stripes around the court.  It's not awful, but I don't see it as an upgrade.

Would've been a lot more excited for new uniforms.

I think this is where I fall too.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: StillAWarrior on October 18, 2023, 03:26:59 PM
<Clicking on Link> ("Please don't be an abomination like Oregon or Colorado State.")

That looks OK. I generally don't notice the court all that much unless it's terrible -- this one is not. Like Titan, I'd prefer the stripes on the side.

Quick question: where is the "77" that's visible at 0:11 in the video located? Obviously, it's in dark blue. Is it up near "Marquette"? In the key? Anyone know?

Edited to add: looking closer, I see chairs right above where the "77" is, so it must be right up top near the benches.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: Galway Eagle on October 18, 2023, 04:08:34 PM
We should've gone the northern Illinois route and had the floor be one of our main colors or even striped but a massive mascot logo instead of school logo.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on October 18, 2023, 04:13:23 PM
Notice they use "Golden Eagles" on the sideline. I believe that hasn't been done for awhile.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: 4everwarriors on October 18, 2023, 04:17:13 PM
Depends



Didn't ax ewe what ur wearin', hey?
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: Viper on October 18, 2023, 04:22:37 PM
Notice they use "Golden Eagles" on the sideline. I believe that hasn't been done for awhile.
not done for a while is good, imo. No mention of that name even better.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: BrewCity83 on October 18, 2023, 04:27:32 PM
not done for a while is good, imo. No mention of that name even better.

Agreed.  I don't ever use those words when talking about the team.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: BobWildLoyalist on October 18, 2023, 04:33:08 PM
After 10 Miller Lites, if you look closely enough at the new floor you can see Al gleefully raising his arms.

Amazing work everyone!
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: Johnny B on October 18, 2023, 04:43:14 PM
It’s ok . Stripes are a bit much
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: lawdog77 on October 18, 2023, 04:48:28 PM
After 10 Miller Lites, if you look closely enough at the new floor you can see Al gleefully raising his arms.

Amazing work everyone!
Is it a magic eye puzzle?

I remember looking at those in the Sunday paper and could never see the 3D image

(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/cf/9a/50/cf9a50f687067d50bc15ce3219f5d158.jpg)
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: YaBlueIt on October 18, 2023, 04:54:10 PM
I think I would have preferred to see those stripes in the paint instead of on the baseline.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: Goose on October 18, 2023, 05:03:06 PM
I think it is great looking court. Like the guys playing on it even more.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: Jay Bee on October 18, 2023, 05:05:06 PM
Fricken Bucks better not break our court again
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: PointWarrior on October 18, 2023, 05:10:47 PM
Is there anything Marquette does that you won’t complain about?


I'm a fan of clean.  Too much going on with the stripes around the court.  It's not awful, but I don't see it as an upgrade.

Would've been a lot more excited for new uniforms.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: muwarrior69 on October 18, 2023, 05:21:30 PM
Its fine, but why two shades of blue. I prefer the dark blue with the gold.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: wadesworld on October 18, 2023, 05:33:45 PM
Is there anything Marquette does that you won’t complain about?

Not sure that’s really complaining. Not sure what else Marquette has done that I have complained about.

But this is a marketing fail.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: MuggsyB on October 18, 2023, 06:45:17 PM
Fk yes!!! 
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: MuggsyB on October 18, 2023, 06:46:07 PM
That’s not the new court. Just a rendering someone made.

Damn.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: swoopem on October 18, 2023, 07:15:45 PM
After 10 Miller Lites, if you look closely enough at the new floor you can see Al gleefully raising his arms.

Amazing work everyone!

10 Miller Lites? Why are your numbers so low?
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: BobWildLoyalist on October 18, 2023, 10:16:16 PM
10 Miller Lites? Why are your numbers so low?

They’re tall boy Miller Lites
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: #UnleashSean on October 19, 2023, 02:08:59 AM
I like the opposing M - nice homage to the Mecca and old courts...


However...no AL McGuire court anymore?

It was literally the first close up
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: Hards Alumni on October 19, 2023, 07:00:42 AM
Is it a magic eye puzzle?

I remember looking at those in the Sunday paper and could never see the 3D image

(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/cf/9a/50/cf9a50f687067d50bc15ce3219f5d158.jpg)

Rhythmic gymnastic lady with a ball?
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: rocky_warrior on October 19, 2023, 07:57:43 AM
Seriously - nobody attached a picture yet.  I think I'll add this to the OP.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: UWW2MU on October 19, 2023, 08:42:31 AM
While I'm not really a fan of the busy/blocky border areas, my general feelings about courts is that as long as they're not hideous, overly distracting, or seeping moisture from the ice rink below, then they're fine.  Same applies with uniforms (except the seeping from below, that's a whole different level of concern).  Generally speaking, I don't understand what all the excitement is about for them.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: Markusquette on October 19, 2023, 12:58:26 PM
I think the alternating color stripe is getting old and played out. I hoped to see something a little different by now. It's not bad, but I don't love the new court.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: Pepe Sylvia on October 19, 2023, 01:14:01 PM
I think the alternating color stripe is getting old and played out. I hoped to see something a little different by now. It's not bad, but I don't love the new court.
Disagree, its cool, no one else really does it, thrilled to see it on our court.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: CTWarrior on October 19, 2023, 03:39:35 PM
Count me among those who really like the new floor.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: Shooter McGavin on October 19, 2023, 03:59:20 PM
Count me among those who really like the new floor.

I agree.  It looks good.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: JakeBarnes on October 19, 2023, 04:01:10 PM
I like it. It's kinda fun and unique.

Only real improvement is if it had Holo Al moving up and down the court as well.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: StillWarriors on October 19, 2023, 04:04:27 PM
I agree.  It looks good.

Agree. Thumbs up. Just wish the unis had the border too, like the women's unis did last year.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: NCMUFan on October 19, 2023, 08:23:35 PM
If they win on it, who cares what it looks like.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: Tyler COLEk on October 19, 2023, 08:35:32 PM
That’s a significant upgrade. Now give the logo in the middle a nice tweak and we’d really be cooking.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: Daniel on October 19, 2023, 08:48:39 PM
That’s a significant upgrade. Now give the logo in the middle a nice tweak and we’d really be cooking.

Agree.  Our logo needs to be better.   Floor looks great
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: Shooter McGavin on October 19, 2023, 09:13:21 PM
Agree.  Our logo needs to be better.   Floor looks great

How would you tweak the logo?  I think it’s fine.  It’s finally recognizable because of the consistency over multiple years.  Changing it again and starting over hurts the brand.   Not sure what people want. 
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: Daniel on October 19, 2023, 09:31:40 PM
How would you tweak the logo?  I think it’s fine.  It’s finally recognizable because of the consistency over multiple years.  Changing it again and starting over hurts the brand.   Not sure what people want.

Not sure. Not a graphic artist.  But lots of great college team logos out there. Just my opinion
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: Tyler COLEk on October 19, 2023, 10:15:50 PM
I think a major problem with the logo is that it is NOT recognizable. A plurality of sports fans guess it’s Michigan. The next most popular vote would be “I dunno.” Otherwise, for me it’s 10-15 years dated. I’d say iterate something more contemporary or unique with “MU” or consider involving the Q, as in MARQ.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: Shooter McGavin on October 19, 2023, 11:10:32 PM
Changing it every 10-15 years will make it more unrecognizable.  Consistency is key along with success on the court. 

Every Big East fan knows the logo.  General CBB fans will as soon as MU has sustained success in the NCAA tournament.  Academicians will know the MU logo if somehow MU gets a US News top 25 ranking which isn’t happening soon.   
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: swoopem on October 20, 2023, 07:04:58 AM
How would you tweak the logo?  I think it’s fine.  It’s finally recognizable because of the consistency over multiple years.  Changing it again and starting over hurts the brand.   Not sure what people want.

Bring back the actual eagle from the early 2000s. I don’t mind the MU but they should also use the eagle
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: Uncle Rico on October 20, 2023, 07:31:15 AM
I’d like to see an Indian swinging a hatchet and wearing war paint
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: tower912 on October 20, 2023, 07:37:59 AM
I want the giant bleu muppet. 
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: Mu8891 on October 20, 2023, 07:40:35 AM
I don’t like it … the stripes on baseline are way too busy. 

But leave the MU alone…. If some people
mistake it for MICH ( U of M ) … oh well
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: Frenns Liquor Depot on October 20, 2023, 07:42:57 AM
I don’t like it … the stripes on baseline are way too busy. 

But leave the MU alone…. If some people
mistake it for MICH ( U of M ) … oh well

It looks busy and really long but game day it will have people/cheer team covering like half of that space so my guess is will look better on game day.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: MattyWarrior on October 20, 2023, 08:04:17 AM
At least there’s no advertising on it
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: tower912 on October 20, 2023, 08:44:49 AM
It is fine.   Unique, which is what MU should strive for.  Nothing offensive or controversial.    Just because I am not a fan of the championship blue doesn't mean it shouldn't be used.   The scheme will look good on TV with a packed arena.  And most of the time, 'Golden Eagles' will be obscured on TV due to camera angle and fans.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: 21Jumpstreet on October 20, 2023, 08:52:10 AM
Super dig it, screams Marquette
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: 4everwarriors on October 20, 2023, 08:53:01 AM
I’d like to see an Indian swinging a hatchet and wearing war paint


Reakco, now ur talkin'. 'nough of dis pussification of hour alma mater, aina?
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: StillAWarrior on October 20, 2023, 08:57:02 AM
But leave the MU alone…. If some people
mistake it for MICH ( U of M ) … oh well

I also really like the MU logo (and prefer it when they don't include the "Marquette" banner across it as they often do. I'm a generally a fan of lettermarks that are recognizable (e.g., Purdue's P, Georgetown's G, Michigan's M, etc.).
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: Uncle Rico on October 20, 2023, 08:58:25 AM

Reakco, now ur talkin'. 'nough of dis pussification of hour alma mater, aina?

I’d like to see a path on the floor to the opposing teams locker room with tears on it.  Call it the “Trail of Tears” and play God Bless America when they leave the court after victories
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: Hards Alumni on October 20, 2023, 09:03:05 AM

Reakco, now ur talkin'. 'nough of dis pussification of hour alma mater, aina?

"I miss racism"
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: wadesworld on October 20, 2023, 09:14:45 AM
Should've just originally kept Warriors as the name but moved away from any imagery and come up with an MU logo at the time.  But it was too late for that.  Ranking the 10 nicknames offered in the vote:

1) Hilltoppers - fairly unique and already in Marquette's history
2) Golden Knights
3) Wolves
4) Golden Eagles
5) Golden Avalanche
6) Blue and Gold?
7) Saints?
8) Voyagers?
9) Explorers?
10) Spirit?

Hilltoppers was the very clear choice.  Could've done a lot of good stuff with that.

As it is, if you're going to have "Golden Eagles" on the court, you should put the Golden Eagle that was on the 2003 shorts at center court.  That's about as good of a logo as you can make for Golden Eagles.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: TallTitan34 on October 20, 2023, 09:23:08 AM
I also really like the MU logo (and prefer it when they don't include the "Marquette" banner across it as they often do. I'm a generally a fan of lettermarks that are recognizable (e.g., Purdue's P, Georgetown's G, Michigan's M, etc.).

IIRC they included the Marquette banner across the logo so the new logo could be identified. The long term goal was to transition to the bannerless monogram once the logo was known.

Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: Galway Eagle on October 20, 2023, 09:55:28 AM
Should've just originally kept Warriors as the name but moved away from any imagery and come up with an MU logo at the time.  But it was too late for that.  Ranking the 10 nicknames offered in the vote:

1) Hilltoppers - fairly unique and already in Marquette's history
2) Golden Knights
3) Wolves
4) Golden Eagles
5) Golden Avalanche
6) Blue and Gold?
7) Saints?
8) Voyagers?
9) Explorers?
10) Spirit?

Hilltoppers was the very clear choice.  Could've done a lot of good stuff with that.

As it is, if you're going to have "Golden Eagles" on the court, you should put the Golden Eagle that was on the 2003 shorts at center court.  That's about as good of a logo as you can make for Golden Eagles.

Golden Avalanche was better than eagles and wolves. Arguably on par with knights. It was also fairly unique and already a part of MU history. But agree that 03 logo was as good as it could get
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: muwarrior69 on October 20, 2023, 10:18:03 AM
I’d like to see an Indian swinging a hatchet and wearing war paint

and the scalp of every Badger.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: wadesworld on October 20, 2023, 10:19:41 AM
Golden Avalanche was better than eagles and wolves. Arguably on par with knights. It was also fairly unique and already a part of MU history. But agree that 03 logo was as good as it could get

Yeah 3-5 and 6-10 are all fairly interchangeable in my opinion.  To me Hilltoppers is the clear top choice and I think Golden Knights is a solid second.  Although I less like the actual nickname Golden Knights and more like what you could do with a MSU style logo (or Las Vegas Golden Knights).
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: Hards Alumni on October 20, 2023, 10:21:23 AM
Should've just originally kept Warriors as the name but moved away from any imagery and come up with an MU logo at the time.  But it was too late for that.  Ranking the 10 nicknames offered in the vote:

1) Hilltoppers - fairly unique and already in Marquette's history
2) Golden Knights
3) Wolves
4) Golden Eagles
5) Golden Avalanche
6) Blue and Gold?
7) Saints?
8) Voyagers?
9) Explorers?
10) Spirit?

Hilltoppers was the very clear choice.  Could've done a lot of good stuff with that.

As it is, if you're going to have "Golden Eagles" on the court, you should put the Golden Eagle that was on the 2003 shorts at center court.  That's about as good of a logo as you can make for Golden Eagles.

Nah, even as someone who attended during that period I don't miss that logo at all.

Having said that, the newest iteration of the MU logo is 18 years old.  Could use a refresh. 

(https://static.vecteezy.com/system/resources/previews/019/166/315/non_2x/eagle-head-eagle-logo-symbol-gaming-logo-elegant-element-for-brand-eagle-abstract-symbols-vector.jpg)

That's a good jumping off point.

Or something like this.
(https://t4.ftcdn.net/jpg/05/55/02/61/360_F_555026179_L08M3AsMS0s3i8uganMQe2r2lbwco0rn.jpg)

I'd alter the color palette to fit Marquette more as well.    But keep the high contrast.  I don't have a clue what to do about font though.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: wadesworld on October 20, 2023, 10:22:45 AM
Nah, even as someone who attended during that period I don't miss that logo at all.

Having said that, the newest iteration of the MU logo is 18 years old.  Could use a refresh. 

(https://static.vecteezy.com/system/resources/previews/019/166/315/non_2x/eagle-head-eagle-logo-symbol-gaming-logo-elegant-element-for-brand-eagle-abstract-symbols-vector.jpg)

That's a good jumping off point.

Or something like this.
(https://t4.ftcdn.net/jpg/05/55/02/61/360_F_555026179_L08M3AsMS0s3i8uganMQe2r2lbwco0rn.jpg)

I'd alter the color palette to fit Marquette more as well.    But keep the high contrast.  I don't have a clue what to do about font though.

I like the top one.  It just feels almost like the generic logos you could use in like NCAA Football 2010 when you were creating your own school.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: Hards Alumni on October 20, 2023, 10:25:09 AM
I like the top one.  It just feels almost like the generic logos you could use in like NCAA Football 2010 when you were creating your own school.

Yeah, someone with some actual graphic design talent could make it look much better.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: muwarrior69 on October 20, 2023, 10:41:42 AM
More photos.

Are the numbers honoring former players?

https://gomarquette.com/galleries/mens-basketball/al-mcguire-court-fiserv-forum/2987
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: Galway Eagle on October 20, 2023, 10:43:42 AM
Yeah 3-5 and 6-10 are all fairly interchangeable in my opinion.  To me Hilltoppers is the clear top choice and I think Golden Knights is a solid second.  Although I less like the actual nickname Golden Knights and more like what you could do with a MSU style logo (or Las Vegas Golden Knights).


Ah yeah I'd agree with that, definitely more potential with knights than avalanche.

Nah, even as someone who attended during that period I don't miss that logo at all.

Having said that, the newest iteration of the MU logo is 18 years old.  Could use a refresh. 

(https://static.vecteezy.com/system/resources/previews/019/166/315/non_2x/eagle-head-eagle-logo-symbol-gaming-logo-elegant-element-for-brand-eagle-abstract-symbols-vector.jpg)

That's a good jumping off point.

Or something like this.
(https://t4.ftcdn.net/jpg/05/55/02/61/360_F_555026179_L08M3AsMS0s3i8uganMQe2r2lbwco0rn.jpg)

I'd alter the color palette to fit Marquette more as well.    But keep the high contrast.  I don't have a clue what to do about font though.

Those are solid. At this point I just want to get rid of the cartoonish logo. Didn't like it in 08 when I got my first shirt for touring MU and here we are 15yrs later without any change except they added the version where it's facing you on some gear.


Wild idea that'd totally get shot down, you know how the Aztecs used to dress as animals for war? What if we did a warrior with a golden eagle war helmet on? No? Canceled? I'll see myself out.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: Uncle Rico on October 20, 2023, 10:45:29 AM
and the scalp of every Badger.

That’s not a bad idea.  Maybe a scalp board?  Instead of a rain dance, maybe a rally dance if the good guys fall behind?  Now we’re getting somewhere
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: Hards Alumni on October 20, 2023, 10:50:49 AM
That’s not a bad idea.  Maybe a scalp board?  Instead of a rain dance, maybe a rally dance if the good guys fall behind?  Now we’re getting somewhere

Pass me the fire water, Reeko!
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: BrewCity83 on October 20, 2023, 10:51:48 AM
Pass me the Peace Pipe
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: Uncle Rico on October 20, 2023, 10:54:44 AM
Pass me the Peace Pipe

I like where your heads are at but I’m not sure Marquette wants to promote peace
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: muwarrior69 on October 20, 2023, 11:10:59 AM
I like where your heads are at but I’m not sure Marquette wants to promote peace

...especially with Badgers.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: Jay Bee on October 20, 2023, 11:27:25 AM
Bring back the actual eagle from the early 2000s. I don’t mind the MU but they should also use the eagle

No chickens
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: Hards Alumni on October 20, 2023, 12:05:53 PM
No chickens

For real.  Even the current logo mascot thing has the wrong color gradient for what a Golden Eagle looks like.  Their faces are dark and are more golden towards the back of their head.  That small of a fix would remove the chicken feelings.

edit: Is this a better color scheme?  I'm not sure.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: Uncle Rico on October 20, 2023, 01:14:22 PM
...especially with Badgers.

In general, I don’t think we want a Jesuit institution involved with peace
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: Viper on October 20, 2023, 01:36:07 PM
I’d like to see an Indian swinging a hatchet and wearing war paint
yup
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: The Lens on October 20, 2023, 01:40:54 PM
This is not a MU complaint bc all football and basketball entities do it but I hate how the court is orientated for TV.  If you sit 5th row center on the other side you're seeing the court in reverse.

I prefer the name of the team in a ring around the jump circle.  But I would guess I am in the minority.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: Uncle Rico on October 20, 2023, 02:28:38 PM
yup

How can people be offended by that?
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: NCMUFan on October 20, 2023, 02:51:51 PM
I’d like to see an Indian swinging a hatchet and wearing war paint
You can always dress up like that for games.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: TallTitan34 on October 20, 2023, 03:05:48 PM
I like it waaaaaay better with the back half of the stripes covered.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: StillAWarrior on October 20, 2023, 03:57:37 PM
I like it waaaaaay better with the back half of the stripes covered.

I agree.

Four pages on the new court. We need the season to get started already.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: wadesworld on October 20, 2023, 04:01:18 PM
I like it waaaaaay better with the back half of the stripes covered.

It's better.  I think it'd be even better if the entire sideline was all navy, instead of big blocks of the secondary colors in the corner.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on October 20, 2023, 04:32:13 PM
A bigger question is which Courtside Cougar will spill the first beer when Stevie Mitchell dives for a loose ball?
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: Viper on October 20, 2023, 06:36:59 PM
How can people be offended by that?
my roommate/housemate was the First Warrior at the time. Full Menomonie  Indian. Many on here might know Rick. Great guy. He was never offended and had/has really interesting insight on topic. He was ignored by the BOD at the time. Golden Eagles it is.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: Frenns Liquor Depot on October 20, 2023, 10:14:28 PM
A bigger question is which Courtside Cougar will spill the first beer when Stevie Mitchell dives for a loose ball?

Mrs Dr B?
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on October 20, 2023, 11:56:31 PM
Mrs Dr B?

The RN doesn't let me sit near Pat Driscoll.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: muwarrior69 on October 24, 2023, 06:06:01 AM
my roommate/housemate was the First Warrior at the time. Full Menomonie  Indian. Many on here might know Rick. Great guy. He was never offended and had/has really interesting insight on topic. He was ignored by the BOD at the time. Golden Eagles it is.

Not just him, but a huge majority of alumni at the time.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: WellsstreetWanderer on October 24, 2023, 09:44:57 AM
Not just him, but a huge majority of alumni at the time.
I was one of them. Suggested a Viking or Celt replacement if Willie was offensive. Warriors is a strong nickname.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: Uncle Rico on October 24, 2023, 10:45:33 AM
I was one of them. Suggested a Viking or Celt replacement if Willie was offensive. Warriors is a strong nickname.

I suggested a warrior crusader trying to take back the holy land
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 24, 2023, 11:53:44 AM
Too young to vote at the time, but I've liked the idea pitched here about switching to St. Joan of Arc as the mascot. Probably too processive for the mid-90s but with the St. Joan of Arc chapel on campus and Marquette being the first Catholic University to admit women, I think it would have been fitting to have the first female primary mascot in D1.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: Viper on October 24, 2023, 11:59:18 AM
I was one of them. Suggested a Viking or Celt replacement if Willie was offensive. Warriors is a strong nickname.
it definitely is and was frustrating at the time the closed door BOD’s.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: Viper on October 24, 2023, 12:00:33 PM
Too young to vote at the time, but I've liked the idea pitched here about switching to St. Joan of Arc as the mascot. Probably too processive for the mid-90s but with the St. Joan of Arc chapel on campus and Marquette being the first Catholic University to admit women, I think it would have been fitting to have the first female primary mascot in D1.
what nickname you thinking w/a St. Joan of Arc mascot?
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 24, 2023, 12:22:42 PM
what nickname you thinking w/a St. Joan of Arc mascot?

Warriors with St. Joan of Arc as the mascot.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: Coleman on October 24, 2023, 01:17:14 PM
my roommate/housemate was the First Warrior at the time. Full Menomonie  Indian. Many on here might know Rick. Great guy. He was never offended and had/has really interesting insight on topic. He was ignored by the BOD at the time. Golden Eagles it is.

First Warrior was the most respectful iteration of the Warrior, however, the nickname/mascot clearly could not be separated by the more offensive iterations, which is obvious from the fact that they are still continually posted on this board.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: Coleman on October 24, 2023, 01:17:57 PM
Warriors with St. Joan of Arc as the mascot.

This would have been cool as hell.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: tower912 on October 24, 2023, 01:18:21 PM
Amen.   To your last two posts.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: MUfan12 on October 24, 2023, 01:20:12 PM
Warriors with St. Joan of Arc as the mascot.

This was brought up in the 2005 fiasco, but dismissed immediately. The Jesuits thought it was disrespectful to have a Saint used as a mascot.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: cheebs09 on October 24, 2023, 01:24:43 PM
This was brought up in the 2005 fiasco, but dismissed immediately. The Jesuits thought it was disrespectful to have a Saint used as a mascot.

Too bad Providence didn’t have a similar line of thinking.

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Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: tower912 on October 24, 2023, 01:33:38 PM
Eeeww.   They are looking up his frock.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on October 24, 2023, 01:36:38 PM
Too bad Providence didn’t have a similar line of thinking.

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Not a specific saint. Just a generic friar.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: Uncle Rico on October 24, 2023, 01:48:06 PM
This was brought up in the 2005 fiasco, but dismissed immediately. The Jesuits thought it was disrespectful to have a Saint used as a mascot.

Imagining the family values crowd reacting to a female mascot is a vision
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: StillAWarrior on October 24, 2023, 01:51:42 PM
This was brought up in the 2005 fiasco, but dismissed immediately. The Jesuits thought it was disrespectful to have a Saint used as a mascot.

Could have done essentially the same thing without using Joan of Arc by using the imagery of a "warrior" of the time as the mascot. I've always thought this could have been a really cool compromise. Even if they didn't want to make Joan of Arc the official mascot.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: muwarrior69 on October 24, 2023, 02:22:06 PM
Our present mascot is offensive to Golden Eagles. We should have the real thing, like Butler's Bulldog.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: StillAWarrior on October 24, 2023, 03:01:27 PM
Our present mascot is offensive to Golden Eagles. We should have the real thing, like Butler's Bulldog.

Or Georgetown's bulldog. Or Georgia's. Or Yale's. Or Drake's. Or Bryant's. Or...
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: AlienWarrior on October 24, 2023, 04:13:52 PM
Is the head of the chicken gonna be on the court?
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: Viper on October 24, 2023, 08:25:57 PM
First Warrior was the most respectful iteration of the Warrior, however, the nickname/mascot clearly could not be separated by the more offensive iterations, which is obvious from the fact that they are still continually posted on this board.
…yet Marquette hasn’t modified the school seal…a Native American in a canoe. Is this hypocritical of MU? (I’m with my buddy Rick. Should have stayed with the logo I posted prior, kept Warriors.) Oh well, at this point GEagles has been the nickname pushing 30 yrs. Crazy it’s been that long.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: SlowJoe on October 24, 2023, 08:33:25 PM
…yet Marquette hasn’t modified the school seal…a Native American in a canoe. Is this hypocritical of MU? (I’m with my buddy Rick. Should have stayed with the logo I posted prior, kept Warriors.) Oh well, at this point GEagles has been the nickname pushing 30 yrs. Crazy it’s been that long.

They just updated the seal a couple years ago. Now it shows wild rice instead of Fr. Marquette in a canoe.

https://www.marquette.edu/about/history-logos.php
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: tower912 on October 24, 2023, 08:35:35 PM
I remember when the seal change was the end of the world.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: WellsstreetWanderer on October 24, 2023, 08:52:30 PM
Eeeww.   They are looking up his frock.
Is he going “commando”?
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: WellsstreetWanderer on October 24, 2023, 08:53:36 PM
They just updated the seal a couple years ago. Now it shows wild rice instead of Fr. Marquette in a canoe.

https://www.marquette.edu/about/history-logos.php
Surprised it wasn’t a field of soybeans
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: muwarrior69 on October 25, 2023, 03:22:51 PM
Too young to vote at the time, but I've liked the idea pitched here about switching to St. Joan of Arc as the mascot. Probably too processive for the mid-90s but with the St. Joan of Arc chapel on campus and Marquette being the first Catholic University to admit women, I think it would have been fitting to have the first female primary mascot in D1.

https://www.orientaltrading.com/womens-a-knight-to-remember-costume-a2-14108593.fltr?csku=UR28619LG&sku=UR28619LG&BP=PS544&ms=search&source=google&cm_mmc=GooglePLA-_-19741228719-_-147937386193-_-UR28619LG&cm_mmca1=OTC%2BPLAs&cm_mmca2=GooglePLAs&gclid=CjwKCAjw-eKpBhAbEiwAqFL0mpKwgfAWXmXOnniHgI_SKdSZn52sGw4nAoLy0hdotQigInd7OWAkBRoCyngQAvD_BwE
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: Viper on October 25, 2023, 09:00:09 PM
They just updated the seal a couple years ago. Now it shows wild rice instead of Fr. Marquette in a canoe.

https://www.marquette.edu/about/history-logos.php
thx. I had missed that. Rice. No maze? Show goes on.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 25, 2023, 11:19:55 PM
This was brought up in the 2005 fiasco, but dismissed immediately. The Jesuits thought it was disrespectful to have a Saint used as a mascot.

I mean, that's not an unreasonable take. I figured that even if you could get the mid-90s fanbase to accept a female mascot, having a saint as your mascot would probably be frowned upon by they guys in the big pointy hats
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: WhiteTrash on October 26, 2023, 08:03:48 AM
They just updated the seal a couple years ago. Now it shows wild rice instead of Fr. Marquette in a canoe.

https://www.marquette.edu/about/history-logos.php
The rice paddies in Milwaukee always gave me flash backs to Vietnam.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on October 26, 2023, 08:46:10 AM
The rice paddies in Milwaukee always gave me flash backs to Vietnam.

There is a new MU committee formed exploring a name change to Rice University.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: 4everwarriors on October 26, 2023, 09:37:48 AM
Addin' Krispy wood bea a nice touch, aina?
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: Hards Alumni on October 26, 2023, 09:55:57 AM
Addin' Krispy wood bea a nice touch, aina?

Krispy Crean.  Sounds like a winner.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: BrewCity83 on October 26, 2023, 03:47:59 PM
The Marquette Golden Rice Krispies.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on October 26, 2023, 04:47:33 PM
The Marquette Golden Rice Krispies.

No marshmallows now that Wojo left.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: brewcity77 on October 26, 2023, 04:57:34 PM
The answer was always too just drop the nickname all together. Virtually all the branding & fan engagement is based around "We Are Marquette" not any mascot. And if you drop the mascot, fans can use whatever they like.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: MU62 on October 27, 2023, 08:30:18 AM
Snap, Crackle, and Pop!
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: Coleman on October 27, 2023, 09:25:25 AM
The answer was always too just drop the nickname all together. Virtually all the branding & fan engagement is based around "We Are Marquette" not any mascot. And if you drop the mascot, fans can use whatever they like.

That was the case after the Gold debacle probably until about the end of the Buzz era, but the Eagle is making a comeback. Naming the mascot Iggy, creating new cartoon versions of him, the logo popping up more. It seems like they are finally embracing it a bit. I think it would be a great time for a true Eagle logo refresh.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: Pepe Sylvia on October 27, 2023, 09:30:00 AM
I would go turn of the century baseball style and name us the bats because of that one time there was a bat on the court. No one else is using a bat as a mascot, so thats unique, and its something even tangenitally related to Marquette, unlike a golden eagle. Also bats are pretty cool, as far as animals go.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: muwarrior69 on October 27, 2023, 10:11:41 AM
I would go turn of the century baseball style and name us the bats because of that one time there was a bat on the court. No one else is using a bat as a mascot, so thats unique, and its something even tangenitally related to Marquette, unlike a golden eagle. Also bats are pretty cool, as far as animals go.

I can see Count Dracula sucking the blood of our opponents. Not bad.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: cheebs09 on October 27, 2023, 11:23:12 AM
I can see Count Dracula sucking the blood of our opponents. Not bad.

I’d be prefer not to have Bo Ryan associated with Marquette basketball.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: brewcity77 on October 27, 2023, 11:30:40 AM
I would go turn of the century baseball style and name us the bats because of that one time there was a bat on the court. No one else is using a bat as a mascot, so thats unique, and its something even tangenitally related to Marquette, unlike a golden eagle. Also bats are pretty cool, as far as animals go.

It would be interesting to see how they worked that into the color scheme, because the blue and gold seems like something that is never leaving.

That was the case after the Gold debacle probably until about the end of the Buzz era, but the Eagle is making a comeback. Naming the mascot Iggy, creating new cartoon versions of him, the logo popping up more. It seems like they are finally embracing it a bit. I think it would be a great time for a true Eagle logo refresh.

I'm also in the minority in thinking Gold was a perfectly fine option. It seemed odd at the time (cue that iconic pic from the announcement) but eventually it would've been no different than how Heat, Thunder, or Jazz were received, all more abstract concepts than mascots. Hell, Stanford makes Cardinal work with a damn tree mascot, Gold would've been just fine.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on October 27, 2023, 11:33:22 AM
I’d be prefer not to have Bo Ryan associated with Marquette basketball.

Score
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: Pepe Sylvia on October 27, 2023, 12:32:05 PM
It would be interesting to see how they worked that into the color scheme, because the blue and gold seems like something that is never leaving.

Something like this, but i'd take the different colors used down to 3 or 4.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: PointWarrior on October 27, 2023, 12:37:55 PM

While we are picking new mascots, are we bringing back football too?
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: cheebs09 on October 27, 2023, 12:47:34 PM
While we are picking new mascots, are we bringing back football too?

The Marquette Doctors (to reflect our bringing back of the Medical School)
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: Pepe Sylvia on October 27, 2023, 12:48:34 PM
While we are picking new mascots, are we bringing back football too?
Well now i'm just having fun with ai image generators
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: muwarrior69 on October 27, 2023, 01:05:49 PM
I’d be prefer not to have Bo Ryan associated with Marquette basketball.

I thought he looked like the Grinch.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on October 27, 2023, 01:24:29 PM
Well now i'm just having fun with ai image generators

Wombats?
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: Viper on October 27, 2023, 03:35:24 PM
Wombats?
…well, we did have a 🦇 bat go after Ed Cooley
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: The Lens on October 27, 2023, 04:03:36 PM
That was the case after the Gold debacle probably until about the end of the Buzz era, but the Eagle is making a comeback. Naming the mascot Iggy, creating new cartoon versions of him, the logo popping up more. It seems like they are finally embracing it a bit. I think it would be a great time for a true Eagle logo refresh.

If they had simply put the original Golden Eagle in a Blue Letter sweater it would have tied the old and the new. Instead they had it in full uniform with basketball shoes etc. It looked new and stupid instead of traditional and classic.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: brewcity77 on October 27, 2023, 06:28:49 PM
Well now i'm just having fun with ai image generators

Alright, I'm in.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: willie warrior on October 28, 2023, 07:03:21 AM
Go back to the Warrior swinging the tomahawk. That would bring in the booster dollars and the old folks.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: Uncle Rico on October 28, 2023, 07:15:41 AM
Go back to the Warrior swinging the tomahawk. That would bring in the booster dollars and the old folks.

Nobody wants the old folks back
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: 🏀 on October 28, 2023, 08:36:27 AM
Nobody wants the old folks back

I can think of one guy.

(https://media.tenor.com/j4P2KbY-RAkAAAAC/death-grim-reaper.gif)
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: TallTitan34 on October 29, 2023, 11:12:23 AM
At this point I have to imagine there’s more Golden Eagle alumni than Warrior alumni.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: Jay Bee on October 29, 2023, 11:31:21 AM
At this point I have to imagine there’s more Golden Eagle alumni than Warrior alumni.

That’s a disturbing thought.  Not sure it’s true though. I say NO.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: TallTitan34 on October 29, 2023, 03:27:43 PM
This year will be the 30th year of Golden Eagles.

Before that there were 40 years of Warriors.

I’m assuming there was smaller enrollment in those 40 years and more people have died from that Warrior group.

If it hasn’t happened yet, it’s close.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 29, 2023, 08:52:48 PM
This year will be the 30th year of Golden Eagles.

Before that there were 40 years of Warriors.

I’m assuming there was smaller enrollment in those 40 years and more people have died from that Warrior group.

If it hasn’t happened yet, it’s close.

There's no way that it hasn't happened yet.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: Viper on October 30, 2023, 08:21:58 AM
Go back to the Warrior swinging the tomahawk. That would bring in the booster dollars and the old folks.
this one?
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: Viper on October 30, 2023, 08:22:24 AM
this one?
or…
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: Viper on October 30, 2023, 08:24:34 AM
or…
I never saw a prob with this one, but I’m just whitie in the ‘burbs
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: TallTitan34 on October 30, 2023, 08:57:13 AM
See other old MU logos at www.muoverload.com > Media > Logos.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: Jay Bee on October 30, 2023, 09:09:31 AM
This year will be the 30th year of Golden Eagles.

Before that there were 40 years of Warriors.

I’m assuming there was smaller enrollment in those 40 years and more people have died from that Warrior group.

If it hasn’t happened yet, it’s close.

You’d need to be more specific on definitions. For example, technically I was on campus when we were officially the Warriors, but also spent time with the sham Golden Eagles. I IDENTIFY as a Warrior. So, that cuts well into the 30 years
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: TallTitan34 on October 30, 2023, 09:27:22 AM
You’d need to be more specific on definitions. For example, technically I was on campus when we were officially the Warriors, but also spent time with the sham Golden Eagles. I IDENTIFY as a Warrior. So, that cuts well into the 30 years

While definitely fewer, there would also be people who spent time on campus as the Hilltoppers and the Warriors.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: muwarrior69 on October 30, 2023, 09:46:46 AM
Go back to the Warrior swinging the tomahawk. That would bring in the booster dollars and the old folks.

Did not a booster offer 2 million to the University to keep Warriors, but the PC admins turned it down. I am sure if they offered 2 billion today the powers that be would still turn it down.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: Coleman on October 30, 2023, 09:48:04 AM
Did not a booster offer 2 million to the University to keep Warriors, but the PC admins turned it down. I am sure if they offered 2 billion today the powers that be would still turn it down.

An academic institution selling their soul to the highest bidder typically doesn't end well.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on October 30, 2023, 09:53:25 AM
Did not a booster offer 2 million to the University to keep Warriors, but the PC admins turned it down. I am sure if they offered 2 billion today the powers that be would still turn it down.


Two Trustees (Wayne Sanders and an anonymous one) offered to give $1 million each to revert back to Warriors. With all due respect to them, that's really not a lot of money in the Marquette grand scheme of things - they are about to wrap up a $750 million fundraising campaign. (And my understanding was Sanders made the gift anyway.)

Regardless it's not a great look for any school to base decisions like these on donor pressure.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: Hards Alumni on October 30, 2023, 09:57:50 AM
Yeah, he did it at my grad ceremony.  Thanks Wayne!
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: brewcity77 on October 30, 2023, 10:22:43 AM
You’d need to be more specific on definitions. For example, technically I was on campus when we were officially the Warriors, but also spent time with the sham Golden Eagles. I IDENTIFY as a Warrior. So, that cuts well into the 30 years

Grads are identified by graduating class, so you're a Golden Eagle. From now on, it's probably best we all refer to you as Golden Eagle Jay Bee, just so everyone is clear on that.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: StillAWarrior on October 30, 2023, 11:11:19 AM

Two Trustees (Wayne Sanders and an anonymous one) offered to give $1 million each to revert back to Warriors. With all due respect to them, that's really not a lot of money in the Marquette grand scheme of things - they are about to wrap up a $750 million fundraising campaign. (And my understanding was Sanders made the gift anyway.)

Regardless it's not a great look for any school to base decisions like these on donor pressure.

(https://mathymomentscom.files.wordpress.com/2018/06/ndbb96k.png?w=564)
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: muwarrior69 on October 30, 2023, 02:16:47 PM

Two Trustees (Wayne Sanders and an anonymous one) offered to give $1 million each to revert back to Warriors. With all due respect to them, that's really not a lot of money in the Marquette grand scheme of things - they are about to wrap up a $750 million fundraising campaign. (And my understanding was Sanders made the gift anyway.)

Regardless it's not a great look for any school to base decisions like these on donor pressure.

...but a good look when they would not even allow a fair election by the alumni to choose the school mascot.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on October 30, 2023, 02:17:50 PM
...but a good look when they would not even allow a fair election by the alumni to choose the school mascot.


Honestly they shouldn't have even put it up for a vote.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: muwarrior69 on October 30, 2023, 02:31:01 PM

Honestly they shouldn't have even put it up for a vote.

...for even a worse look.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on October 30, 2023, 02:32:18 PM
...for even a worse look.


Not really. Alumni really don't need to make that decision.

Maybe a governing board member should know better than to make a surprise announcement at a Commencement ceremony.
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: Spotcheck Billy on November 09, 2023, 11:37:13 AM
Ben Steele with background on the new court:
Here's the story behind Marquette basketball's new court at Fiserv Forum
 (https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/college/marquette/2023/11/09/marquette-basketball-staff-member-ben-retzlaff-helped-design-new-court/71513403007/)
Quote
The biggest change from last season is the blue-and-gold piping on the baseline, a nod to the program's long history of unique uniforms. (https://archive.jsonline.com/sports/goldeneagles/39180482.html/)
"One of the emphases Coach had last spring was building on this idea of blending past and present," Retzlaff said. "And then also messaging that to our future.
"So when you think of messaging, we want to message our current players, our former players and the players that will be a part of this program."
Title: Re: New MU Court
Post by: wadesworld on November 09, 2023, 12:25:58 PM
Ben Steele with background on the new court:
Here's the story behind Marquette basketball's new court at Fiserv Forum
 (https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/college/marquette/2023/11/09/marquette-basketball-staff-member-ben-retzlaff-helped-design-new-court/71513403007/)

Hopefully a hint at new uniforms coming soon.