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ATWizJr

....don't you think? 

He is going to North Carolina to play in a high profiile tourney this weekend.  There is a high probability that he will draw interest from additional schools/coaches and may even be offered by some new suitors.

Then, he is going to return home where he and his parents will have roughly 24 hours to review the 9 current offers and any new offers and will have this all sorted out first thing in the morning on Tuesday for an 8 AM announcement.

Doesn't sound like enough time for a thoughtful, final decision.  I wonder if we really will know on Tuesday?  And if so, will it be a final decision?

For this time frame to work, he would pretty much have to already have his mind made up and also be confident that he will reject any new offers.

That said, which of the 9 programs is most able to offer him what he says he wants most, the instant ability to start? 

Probably Baylor or Iowa State. 

LastWarrior

Quote from: ATWizJr on May 23, 2008, 05:52:40 PM

Then, he is going to return home where he and his parents will have roughly 24 hours to review the 9 current offers and any new offers and will have this all sorted out first thing in the morning on Tuesday for an 8 AM announcement.

Doesn't sound like enough time for a thoughtful, final decision.  I wonder if we really will know on Tuesday?  And if so, will it be a final decision?

I'm SURE his decision is already made.  Judging on what i've read, it's most likely that he and his dad liked what they heard from Buzz and will commit.  Hopefully it's to MU but I highly doubt they don't know where he's going.
"The Lord is a Warrior" - Exodus 15:3

nyg

Flying to Texas or Rhode Island to see an occasional home game or driving two hours to watch your child play every home game. If my son was in this position, it would be an easy choice.   

Wareagle

Quote from: ATWizJr on May 23, 2008, 05:52:40 PM
....don't you think? 

He is going to North Carolina to play in a high profiile tourney this weekend.  There is a high probability that he will draw interest from additional schools/coaches and may even be offered by some new suitors.

Then, he is going to return home where he and his parents will have roughly 24 hours to review the 9 current offers and any new offers and will have this all sorted out first thing in the morning on Tuesday for an 8 AM announcement.

Doesn't sound like enough time for a thoughtful, final decision.  I wonder if we really will know on Tuesday?  And if so, will it be a final decision?

For this time frame to work, he would pretty much have to already have his mind made up and also be confident that he will reject any new offers.

That said, which of the 9 programs is most able to offer him what he says he wants most, the instant ability to start? 

Probably Baylor or Iowa State. 
I'm not sure that Baylor's guarantee is warranted.

I posted this in a different thread, but it bears repeating...  I don't know what Scott Drew (Baylor's head coach) told Jeronne, but Baylor has a 6'8 top 50 forward, Anthony Jones, coming in '08 and a 5 star (per rivals) power forward, Cory Jefferson, already committed in '09.  On top of that, they have a 3 star JUCO power forward committed for '08.  They also have a promising center, Josh Lomers, who will be a senior when Jeronne is a freshman, meaning that Baylor will probably only have space for two forwards on the court most of the time. 

Am I missing something here?  How in good conscience can Drew guarantee Jeronne not only a starting spot, but that they will run their offense through him as well? 

ATWizJr

To Wareagle:  conscience?  I don;t know anythiong about Drew but having a conscience is not always a coaching prerequisite.


To nyg:  If Mr. Maymon is willing to send his older son to Texas for prep school I'm not sure distance is a consideration.  Especially, having mentioned spirituality, since Baylor is the largest Baptist college in the country.

Plus, I am worried that he will draw more offers at this tournament.  I hope my fears are unfounded.

I doubt that PC is in the mix.


nyg

His older son is not the Wisconsin player of the year and a potential All American candidate preparing to play major college basketball.  He's at a high school prep school.  No comparison. 

MarquetteFan94

Quote from: nyg on May 23, 2008, 06:54:11 PM
Flying to Texas or Rhode Island to see an occasional home game or driving two hours to watch your child play every home game. If my son was in this position, it would be an easy choice.   

That's what we thought with Shumpert.

MUCam

The timing is very strange. On the one hand, it certainly bodes well to announce a decision date so soon after a "great meeting" with MU. On the other hand, it all seems a little rushed, if in fact the choice is MU. From what I have read, Mr. Maymon doesn't seem to be one to rush into a decision...unless of course MU and Wisconsin were always at the top and Maymon was just waiting for an offer (TC didn't offer, did he?).

4everwarriors

Just not getting the warm and fuzzies over this one. The counter argument may be that Maymon needed to visit MU just to validate his feelings of commitment to Baylor or ISU. Will be shocked if he wears the Warrior uni.
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

MUSF

Quote from: nyg on May 23, 2008, 06:54:11 PM
Flying to Texas or Rhode Island to see an occasional home game or driving two hours to watch your child play every home game. If my son was in this position, it would be an easy choice.   

Some parents actually let their kids make the decision.

nyg

Seems like his parents will play a big part, especially if they are interviewed and quoted by the news media reference his recruitment.  If it happens, so be it. If not, move on.  Tuesday will be here soon.

MUUWUWM

I think the son is making his own decision and he will want to spread his wings abit.
Hope I am wrong but I don't like what I've read and how I'm interpreting their words.

ATWizJr

nyg- what if the brothers Maymon are being offered a package deal by Baylor and the first step is moving the older to Texas? 

This aside- one of the stated criteria of Mr. Maymon is the ability to start from the get go.  Besides ISU and BU what other school would have offered this to him?

Don't you think he will be offered at the tournament?  Don't know how he will have the time to seriously review the former 9 offers and any new offers and have a final decision within 24 hours of returning home from the tournament.

Hoping for good news on Tuesday, but apprehensive.

Tulsa Warrior

A couple of things -- the Maymon's seem pretty PO'ed at the Badger program and have said so publically.  Said they would like an opportunity for UW to see the mistake they made by not recruiting JM.  What better way to throw it in their face than playing ball down the road in Milwaukee?

You want spiritual.  The Jesuits do a pretty good job with that kind of religious frame work.

dennycrane

Quote from: Tulsa Warrior on May 24, 2008, 07:18:44 AM
A couple of things -- the Maymon's seem pretty PO'ed at the Badger program and have said so publically.  Said they would like an opportunity for UW to see the mistake they made by not recruiting JM.  What better way to throw it in their face than playing ball down the road in Milwaukee?

You want spiritual.  The Jesuits do a pretty good job with that kind of religious frame work.

Maymon's frustrations are misplaced. You have to look no further than the gpa and history of suspensions.

mviale

Denny - are you showing your red - try on some gold.
You heard it here first. Davante Gardner will be a Beast this year.
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=27259

ErickJD08

I think he knows where he is going.  There may be a chance that if this tourney sparks a "dream" school offer he would reconsider, but I think he is pretty locked in.
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dennycrane

Quote from: mviale on May 24, 2008, 09:41:49 AM
Denny - are you showing your red - try on some gold.

It is not a color coded argument. 

There was a well known Marquette poster from the other board who wrote a scathing review of of Maymon and his father after a game in summer. Not flattering. All factual.

Crean did not recruit Maymon. Bo Ryan did not recruit Maymon. The reasons have already been discussed.

Buzz has made the choice to offer Maymon. It is worthy of discussion if this change in direction is a good idea. It is a grey area. No need to look at this decision with blinders on. Those wearing blinders have made a 180. Under Crean not taking Maymon was the right thing to do. Buzz offers Maymon and now that is the right thing to do. Same player, same person, same history, same risks.




Tulsa Warrior

A couple of things Crane:

(1) despite some frustration with my teenager I still believe in change and positive growth.  I believe the same for me.  I think I'm a smarter parent than I was last summer.

(2) Your comments on the Maymon family being a little PO'ed at the Badgers may be right. (unjustified frustration on their part?)  The bottom line is we are all entitled to our feelings.

Big Papi

Quote from: dennycrane on May 24, 2008, 11:07:02 AM
It is not a color coded argument. 

There was a well known Marquette poster from the other board who wrote a scathing review of of Maymon and his father after a game in summer. Not flattering. All factual.

Crean did not recruit Maymon. Bo Ryan did not recruit Maymon. The reasons have already been discussed.

Buzz has made the choice to offer Maymon. It is worthy of discussion if this change in direction is a good idea. It is a grey area. No need to look at this decision with blinders on. Those wearing blinders have made a 180. Under Crean not taking Maymon was the right thing to do. Buzz offers Maymon and now that is the right thing to do. Same player, same person, same history, same risks.





I think Denny definitely brings up a valid point.  When TC was here he really don't want the kid.  Must have been reasons outside from talent as I am sure TC would have loved to grab another talented kid from Madison.  Now Buzz is coach and we offer.  Buzz has mentioned character as a big issue.  Did TC and Bo for that matter misread the kid?  Are the issues in the past?  Does talent win out with Buzz? 

jce

Quote from: dennycrane on May 24, 2008, 11:07:02 AM
It is not a color coded argument. 

There was a well known Marquette poster from the other board who wrote a scathing review of of Maymon and his father after a game in summer. Not flattering. All factual.

Crean did not recruit Maymon. Bo Ryan did not recruit Maymon. The reasons have already been discussed.

Buzz has made the choice to offer Maymon. It is worthy of discussion if this change in direction is a good idea. It is a grey area. No need to look at this decision with blinders on. Those wearing blinders have made a 180. Under Crean not taking Maymon was the right thing to do. Buzz offers Maymon and now that is the right thing to do. Same player, same person, same history, same risks.


While I do think that your points are somewhat valid, you have to remember he's not the same player.  Low level D1 before last year, but improved his performance throughout the HS and AAU seasons and is now considered BE worthy. 

dennycrane

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Quote from: jce on May 24, 2008, 01:46:36 PM

While I do think that your points are somewhat valid, you have to remember he's not the same player.  Low level D1 before last year, but improved his performance throughout the HS and AAU seasons and is now considered BE worthy. 

Baylor has had an offer in to Maymon since last year. He was always better than a low major talent. Issues other than talent have also been a factor. It is all about risk and reward. You are correct that his stock as a player has been elevated  recently.

The question still remains whether Maymon-Marquette and Buzz Williams are a good match. Arguments can be made both ways.

Then there is the question of why commit now. It looks like next spring or summer before the final call on academics can be made.

mviale

Quote from: dennycrane on May 24, 2008, 11:07:02 AM
It is not a color coded argument. 

There was a well known Marquette poster from the other board who wrote a scathing review of of Maymon and his father after a game in summer. Not flattering. All factual.

Crean did not recruit Maymon. Bo Ryan did not recruit Maymon. The reasons have already been discussed.

Buzz has made the choice to offer Maymon. It is worthy of discussion if this change in direction is a good idea. It is a grey area. No need to look at this decision with blinders on. Those wearing blinders have made a 180. Under Crean not taking Maymon was the right thing to do. Buzz offers Maymon and now that is the right thing to do. Same player, same person, same history, same risks.





Fair enough Crane - you bring up solid points despite your badger feelings.
You heard it here first. Davante Gardner will be a Beast this year.
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=27259

nola03

Quote from: mviale on May 24, 2008, 03:29:47 PM
Fair enough Crane - you bring up solid points despite your badger feelings.

Who gives a crap where his feelings reside. His words are balanced compared to others'.

Henry Sugar

Quote from: dennycrane on May 24, 2008, 11:07:02 AM
It is not a color coded argument. 

There was a well known Marquette poster from the other board who wrote a scathing review of of Maymon and his father after a game in summer. Not flattering. All factual.

Crean did not recruit Maymon. Bo Ryan did not recruit Maymon. The reasons have already been discussed.

Buzz has made the choice to offer Maymon. It is worthy of discussion if this change in direction is a good idea. It is a grey area. No need to look at this decision with blinders on. Those wearing blinders have made a 180. Under Crean not taking Maymon was the right thing to do. Buzz offers Maymon and now that is the right thing to do. Same player, same person, same history, same risks.

The same Marquette poster, Puju, also posted a follow-up several weeks ago.  He said that he felt a lot more comfortable about both Maymon and his father based on further conversations with another Memorial parent.

You seem to have an awfully poor opinion of the actions of a then-16 year-old and an involved father.
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