Baseball Pissing Match

[wadesworld]

this was fun but the bitterness and defensive nature or people like reinko, wadesworld, and pxin is really killing this thread. 

Just to check with you three.  We aren't allowed to make posts about the cubs since no one cares about them.  We aren't allowed to say anything about brewer fans because all cubs fans are idiots.  We aren't allowed to hope that the cubs do what they are obviously capable of (win the world series) because that makes us ignorant.  If someone says they are rooting for the cardnals to be in the playoffs then we are jerks for not wanting the small market team, but i'm guessing if i say that i want the cubs to play the brewers then you will be mad for not giving your team enough respect. 

Brewer fans remind me of why i couldn't stand the inferiority complex of the people of the state of wisconsin.  I was saying that i hope the brewers take the wc but you are all making it hard to keep that up.

I guess you and your Cubs fan friends on here have never said anything wrong in this topic.  Our bad, Cubs fans are always correct and never say things that aren't true and go against anyone else.  You can make those posts that nobody cares about, but don't be pissed when I post something sarcastic in reply.  I forgot that this topic was meant for a logical analysis of how each team is dominating their opponents.  My bad dawg.

[jmayer1]

Brewer fans remind me of why i couldn't stand the inferiority complex of the people of the state of wisconsin. 

Give me a break.  

[wadesworld]

Give me a break.  

Well, if you think about it, we are so far inferior to the Cubs, considering they have so many World Series championships recently, so many World Series appearances recently, they're pretty much the most successful franchise in the history of baseball.

So, according to him, we feel inferior yet we are spoiled.  Makes sense I think?

[jmayer1]

Also, in case anybody was wondering; here is how the schedule shake out for each team:

                        # of Games Left
                          Home    Road        Series  vs. Winning Teams
Cubs                      12        17             6 of 9      (6 games each vs cubs and brewers)
Brewers  (6 gb)        16        13             4 of 7      (no game vs cards)
Cards     (9.5 gb)      13        15             4 of 7

It is going to be hard for the brewers, and especially the cards, to catch the cubs but it is not impossible given their remaining schedules.

Updated - I did not include the upcoming two series in my orginial post.

[reinko]

this was fun but the bitterness and defensive nature or people like reinko, wadesworld, and pxin is really killing this thread. 

Just to check with you three.  We aren't allowed to make posts about the cubs since no one cares about them.  We aren't allowed to say anything about brewer fans because all cubs fans are idiots.  We aren't allowed to hope that the cubs do what they are obviously capable of (win the world series) because that makes us ignorant.  If someone says they are rooting for the cardnals to be in the playoffs then we are jerks for not wanting the small market team, but i'm guessing if i say that i want the cubs to play the brewers then you will be mad for not giving your team enough respect. 

Brewer fans remind me of why i couldn't stand the inferiority complex of the people of the state of wisconsin.  I was saying that i hope the brewers take the wc but you are all making it hard to keep that up.

I'm all for good-spirited hazing.  And when passionate people come together, some times it comes off as being a d*ck.  But Rawdog, just a little context.  What you just said claiming that Wisconsin people have an inferiority complex, we view many people from Chicago and Illinois as having a superioty complex.

Back to the pissing match.  Wrigley Field is a crap-hole.

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Miller Park is a recently built crap hole.

[reinko]

Miller Park is a recently built crap hole.

Craphole 2.0?

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Craphole 2.0?

More like Windows Vista

[drewm88]

Last place.  Last place.  2 games under .500.  Maybe I'm missing the connection here.

Three teams that lack a tradition of much success (I'm not talking WS, LCS, or even playoffs. I'm talking simply being in a race.) Three teams that accordingly do not get much media attention. Three teams that because of that, get little notice across the country. The Brewers fit into this category. They're changing that these last couple seasons, which is great, but a team has to have a presence nationally to be disliked by various fan bases. I'll take it as a compliment that there are enough Cubs fans around the country that "fan bases across the country loathe Cubs fans."

[IAmMarquette]

Miller Park is a recently built crap hole.

That's just ignorant (and not normal Cubs fan ignorant, but actually ignorant). Miller Park consistently rates among the best stadiums in baseball since its construction. I've said it before and I'll say it again: there's a reason Wrigley will be undergoing major renovations in the near future.

[jmayer1]

Three teams that lack a tradition of much success (I'm not talking WS, LCS, or even playoffs. I'm talking simply being in a race.) Three teams that accordingly do not get much media attention. Three teams that because of that, get little notice across the country. The Brewers fit into this category. They're changing that these last couple seasons, which is great, but a team has to have a presence nationally to be disliked by various fan bases. I'll take it as a compliment that there are enough Cubs fans around the country that "fan bases across the country loathe Cubs fans."

There are teams that are a hell of a lot more successful than the Cubs (1/3 of the teams in baseball) over the past 10 years but they aren't all hated like the Cubs are by various fans.  The reason the Cubs are hated is because they have a large fanbase that thinks they are god's gift to baseball because they sell out Wrigley now, even though they haven't won much.

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That's just ignorant (and not normal Cubs fan ignorant, but actually ignorant). Miller Park consistently rates among the best stadiums in baseball since its construction. I've said it before and I'll say it again: there's a reason Wrigley will be undergoing major renovations in the near future.

Really? I would agree if: The roof closed in under 20 minutes. The roof moving didn't sound worse than nails on a chalkboard. The roof didn't leak. The visible plywood on the roof wasn't visible. Didn't look like garbage while traveling on Miller Park way. There wasn't excessive rusting. There wasn't excessive visible rust marks. The lighting was better.

Yep. Great new stadium.

Just because Miller Park has cheap tickets, large varieties of food, kids entertainment, and a sausage race doesn't mean it's a good stadium.

[RawdogDX]

, What you just said claiming that Wisconsin people have an inferiority complex, we view many people from Chicago and Illinois as having a superioty complex.

You think i don't know that you think that? I was responding to phxy's or whatever his name is post.  But you tell me who has the complex:

You ask members of group A what they think of group B and they respond with: shrugs, 'they seem nice', 'we vaction up there it's a great area'
You ask members of group B what they think of group A and they respond with: THose Fing A group Bastards!, I wish they would stop vactioning up here even though we show commercials telling them to,  They think they are better than us!

The problem with mu alums is they only spent a lot of time with people from IL who have had to take crap from wisconisites for years.  AND living with you and is what causes  the alleged 'superiority' complex.  There is no word the equivalant of the word FIB in Il.  A word that was used to describe the parents of student in the graduation edition of the mu trib in 2003 and used by the family of my college girlfriend to describe me.  How do you expect any rational being to deal with it.  Every IL person has no problem with wisconsin people till they find out that the wisconsin people grow up hating and swearing at them.  If you found out that everyone in delaware hated wisconsin would you say: "What's there problem?"  Yes you would because they would be the ones with a problem.

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You think i don't know that you think that? I was responding to phxy's or whatever his name is post.  But you tell me who has the complex:

You ask members of group A what they think of group B and they respond with: shrugs, 'they seem nice', 'we vaction up there it's a great area'
You ask members of group B what they think of group A and they respond with: THose Fing A group Bastards!, I wish they would stop vactioning up here even though we show commercials telling them to,  They think they are better than us!

The problem with mu alums is they only spent a lot of time with people from IL who have had to take crap from wisconisites for years.  AND living with you and is what causes  the alleged 'superiority' complex.  There is no word the equivalant of the word FIB in Il.  A word that was used to describe the parents of student in the graduation edition of the mu trib in 2003 and used by the family of my college girlfriend to describe me.  How do you expect any rational being to deal with it.  Every IL person has no problem with wisconsin people till they find out that the wisconsin people grow up hating and swearing at them.  If you found out that everyone in delaware hated wisconsin would you say: "What's there problem?"  Yes you would because they would be the ones with a problem.

+1

[gjreda]

You think i don't know that you think that? I was responding to phxy's or whatever his name is post.  But you tell me who has the complex:

You ask members of group A what they think of group B and they respond with: shrugs, 'they seem nice', 'we vaction up there it's a great area'
You ask members of group B what they think of group A and they respond with: THose Fing A group Bastards!, I wish they would stop vactioning up here even though we show commercials telling them to,  They think they are better than us!

The problem with mu alums is they only spent a lot of time with people from IL who have had to take crap from wisconisites for years.  AND living with you and is what causes  the alleged 'superiority' complex.  There is no word the equivalant of the word FIB in Il.  A word that was used to describe the parents of student in the graduation edition of the mu trib in 2003 and used by the family of my college girlfriend to describe me.  How do you expect any rational being to deal with it.  Every IL person has no problem with wisconsin people till they find out that the wisconsin people grow up hating and swearing at them.  If you found out that everyone in delaware hated wisconsin would you say: "What's there problem?"  Yes you would because they would be the ones with a problem.

Forget +1.  That's like +1,000,000.  Dead on.

[IAmMarquette]

You think i don't know that you think that? I was responding to phxy's or whatever his name is post.  But you tell me who has the complex:

You ask members of group A what they think of group B and they respond with: shrugs, 'they seem nice', 'we vaction up there it's a great area'
You ask members of group B what they think of group A and they respond with: THose Fing A group Bastards!, I wish they would stop vactioning up here even though we show commercials telling them to,  They think they are better than us!

The problem with mu alums is they only spent a lot of time with people from IL who have had to take crap from wisconisites for years.  AND living with you and is what causes  the alleged 'superiority' complex.  There is no word the equivalant of the word FIB in Il.  A word that was used to describe the parents of student in the graduation edition of the mu trib in 2003 and used by the family of my college girlfriend to describe me.  How do you expect any rational being to deal with it.  Every IL person has no problem with wisconsin people till they find out that the wisconsin people grow up hating and swearing at them.  If you found out that everyone in delaware hated wisconsin would you say: "What's there problem?"  Yes you would because they would be the ones with a problem.

And yet, this thread lives on through 35 pages of idiocy (from both sides). If Cubs fans truly don't care about the Brewers and their fans, why can't the Cubs fans on this board seem to let it go? And why was this thread started by a Cubs fan? The whole "they seem nice" theory just doesn't hold any water, fellas.

Furthermore, Wisconsinites would have no problem with our neighbors to the south if said neighbors weren't such @$$holes to deal with 

[wadesworld]

Really? I would agree if: The roof closed in under 20 minutes. The roof moving didn't sound worse than nails on a chalkboard. The roof didn't leak. The visible plywood on the roof wasn't visible. Didn't look like garbage while traveling on Miller Park way. There wasn't excessive rusting. There wasn't excessive visible rust marks. The lighting was better.

Yep. Great new stadium.

Just because Miller Park has cheap tickets, large varieties of food, kids entertainment, and a sausage race doesn't mean it's a good stadium.

I took your original post about Miller Park being a crap hole as a joke in response to Wrigley being one, but clearly you weren't joking, which is ridiculous.  You seriously are saying that Miller Park is not nice?  So the game has to be delayed for 15 minutes if it rains...I'd rather delay it for 15 minutes rather than have to cancel it as a whole.  The fact that it makes noise makes the roof bad too?  Wow.  Look like garbage?  I'm not sure what you're looking at...Lighting was better?  How is it any different than any other team's lighting?  Where are the rust marks that you speak of?  On the bricks that are all outside?  Bricks don't rust.  Your post is one of the worst post's I've seen on this board, and that's saying something.  Obsess about the roof some more please, because all stadiums have a nice retractable roof to allow games to be played even if it is bad weather...Why didn't the Indians and Angels play their series at Wrigley Field when it was snowing in Cleveland last year?  I mean, who would move their series to such a dump, right?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8e/MIller_Park_May_25_2005.jpg
WOW that is ugly, all the visible rust marks on the...bricks and windows? and the visible plywood?

http://blog.aia.org/mt-static/plugins/Ajaxify/tinymce/jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/imagemanager/images/favorite_architecture_images/wrigley_600_x_376.jpg
Now THAT is what a baseball stadium should look like, SO sexy.

RIIIIIIIIIIGHT

Have you seen the rankings of the best stadiums in the MLB?  I have yet to see one where Miller Park is out of the top 5, and a majority of the lists have them ranked as number 1.  But of course the Cubs fans are the ones who know all and are never wrong, so it must be garbage because they say so...

[Moonboots]

Really? I would agree if: The roof closed in under 20 minutes. The roof moving didn't sound worse than nails on a chalkboard. The roof didn't leak. The visible plywood on the roof wasn't visible. Didn't look like garbage while traveling on Miller Park way. There wasn't excessive rusting. There wasn't excessive visible rust marks. The lighting was better.

Yep. Great new stadium.

Just because Miller Park has cheap tickets, large varieties of food, kids entertainment, and a sausage race doesn't mean it's a good stadium.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/baseball/mlb/09/11/fvi.summary/index.html


They tend to disagree.  But you are clearly the authority on this matter, so I'll take your word for it.



To respond to RawDog's post...

You ask members of group A what they think of group B and they respond with: shrugs, 'they seem nice', 'we vaction up there it's a great area'

Don't even spew that crap at me.  I know you've been to a Cubs-Brewers game at Miller Park.  I know marqptm has, too.  If you can say that s*** with a straight face and believe it, you should look into Hollywood.  I don't remember the Cubs fan saying that before they ran down our tailgating aisle last season and tipped over the grills of Brewer fans. I didn't hear that from the d-bag in the Soriano jersey AT BREWERS OPENING DAY who was escorted out for drunken rowdiness in the 6th inning.  I don't hear that. 

[muwarrior87]

u realize FIB was a response to "cheese heads" don't you?

[Moonboots]

Three teams that lack a tradition of much success (I'm not talking WS, LCS, or even playoffs. I'm talking simply being in a race.) Three teams that accordingly do not get much media attention. Three teams that because of that, get little notice across the country. The Brewers fit into this category. They're changing that these last couple seasons, which is great, but a team has to have a presence nationally to be disliked by various fan bases. I'll take it as a compliment that there are enough Cubs fans around the country that "fan bases across the country loathe Cubs fans."

It wasn't intended as one.  I have no problem with "the Nation."  They tend to mind their own business.  I'm not a fan of the team because it's so cliche, but it's not that bad.  Yankees fans can be obnoxious, but it's not to the level of Cubs fans.  Both those teams have a "presence" because they're in the playoffs on a yearly basis, play in big markets, and have huge payrolls.  Chicago has a national presence because WGN is a nationally syndicated network, and somewhere along the line it became cool to blindly cheer for the loser.  The Cubs are a damn good team this season.  I saw that pretty clearly at both the games I went to.  

Obviously, you can only speak for yourself, and it's not up to you to control your entire fan base, but you should at least be able to acknowledge that there's such a LARGE proportion of Cubs fans who are really mediocre baseball fans and come up to Milwaukee to do nothing but cause trouble that it's an embarrassment.

[Rollout-the-Barrel]

 I've said it before and I'll say it again: there's a reason Wrigley will be undergoing major renovations in the near future.

The reason is because it's the second oldest park in mlb...
 
I don't think Miller Park will last as long as Wrigley, but I love Miller Park too.  Especially after freezing my ass off every opening day at County Stadium.  Love the tailgating too. Now County Stadium was a crap-hole and did look like garbage after it had to stay open an extra year.

[TallTitan34]

Now County Stadium was a crap-hole and did look like garbage after it had to stay open an extra year.

I always thought County Stadium looked like the Todd Wehr buildings (Todd Wehr Chemistry, Todd Wehr Physics, Todd Wehr Life Sciences) on campus from the 50s and 60s.

Should have called it Todd Wehr Baseball.

Wehr Marquette!

[Rollout-the-Barrel]

Zing!!!

[RawdogDX]

To respond to RawDog's post...

Don't even spew that crap at me.  I know you've been to a Cubs-Brewers game at Miller Park.  I know marqptm has, too.  If you can say that s*** with a straight face and believe it, you should look into Hollywood.  I don't remember the Cubs fan saying that before they ran down our tailgating aisle last season and tipped over the grills of Brewer fans. I didn't hear that from the d-bag in the Soriano jersey AT BREWERS OPENING DAY who was escorted out for drunken rowdiness in the 6th inning.  I don't hear that. 

I don't know why you think you know me but no, I've only been to cubs/brewers games in chicago.  But that is amazing that someone got kicked out of the game in a cubs jersey, i'm sure that doesn't happen to at least one person in a brewers jersey every game.  The guys tipping grills sound like complete pretty boys, i apoligize for their behavior although it couldnt' have been that common of an occurance since this is the first mention of it on this board. 

in an unrelated note i want to apologize to the cubs for turning the channel and not seeing them tie the brewers for most come back wins in the NL today.  I'm not going to say what i turned the tv to as it would be in violation of a new superbar rule.

[RawdogDX]

And yet, this thread lives on through 35 pages of idiocy (from both sides). If Cubs fans truly don't care about the Brewers and their fans, why can't the Cubs fans on this board seem to let it go? And why was this thread started by a Cubs fan? The whole "they seem nice" theory just doesn't hold any water, fellas.

Furthermore, Wisconsinites would have no problem with our neighbors to the south if said neighbors weren't such @$$holes to deal with 

Nice try but i specificly stated that people who went to mu do develop 'superiority' complexes as a result of dealing with baseless insults about their state of origin.  assuming that people commenting on this thread are either mu grads or fans who are probably from wisco the argument doesn't hold water.